Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

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Wow, . I don't have a gall bladder either. I bet that is why my liver got

overloaded when I tried that so-called gentle detox for me.

Debbie

> From: W <coralskies@...>

> Subject: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

> iodine

> Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 7:18 AM

> Sorry I'm answering this late...my

> hubby just came home from the hospital and I'm catching up.

>

> Pam,

>

> I'm glad you mentioned that liver cleanses aren't for

> everyone.  I too have gained weight since beginning

> Iodoral.  And I too have liver issues.

>

> In 2007 they found what was actually termed " sludge " in my

> liver when they went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck

> liver stone (I don't have a gallbladder).  I spent two

> days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the hall being

> given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I

> was having to the amazement of everyone.  They finally

> believed me and went in with the scope and pulled what I

> knew to be the second stone...had already passed one by

> myself...out.

>

> I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like

> that, my gut tells me that traditional liver cleanses are

> too much for me to handle.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I

> started iodine last January. I

> > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the

> weight never came off (despite

> > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me

> in the past) UNTIL I

> > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow

> dock and methyl B12, which

> > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know

> which may have contributed

> > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight

> came off (and very quickly)

> > > with these supplements.

> > >

> > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm

> terrified of the prospect of

> > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional

> (and single state), I just

> > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any

> idea what might happen

> > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this

> time WITH the supplements I

> > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the

> weight gain when I took them

> > > AFTER stopping iodine?

> > >

> > > Thanks for any input,

> > > Sherry

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group 

> IodineOT/

>

>

> Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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You all need to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking any supplements. You need to establish exactly what your iodine count is first!

http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593

http://www.hakalalabs.com/testing.html

It is essential to get a test done so that you know exactly what is happening with your thyropid. Medics currently do not offer this screening service. We all need to raise this as an issue with our respective health authorities.

D

From: Debbie <debbielynn09@...>iodine Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 2:09:40 AMSubject: Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Wow, . I don't have a gall bladder either. I bet that is why my liver got overloaded when I tried that so-called gentle detox for me. Debbie> From: W <coralskies@...>> Subject: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine> iodine > Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 7:18 AM> Sorry I'm answering this late...my> hubby just came home from the hospital and I'm catching up.> > Pam,> > I'm glad you mentioned that liver cleanses aren't

for> everyone. I too have gained weight since beginning> Iodoral. And I too have liver issues.> > In 2007 they found what was actually termed "sludge" in my> liver when they went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck> liver stone (I don't have a gallbladder). I spent two> days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the hall being> given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I> was having to the amazement of everyone. They finally> believed me and went in with the scope and pulled what I> knew to be the second stone...had already passed one by> myself...out.> > I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like> that, my gut tells me that traditional liver cleanses are> too much for me to handle.> > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> started iodine last January. I> > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> weight never came off (despite> > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> in the past) UNTIL I> > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> dock and methyl B12, which> > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> which may have contributed> > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> came off (and very

quickly)> > > with these supplements.> > >> > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> terrified of the prospect of> > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> (and single state), I just> > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> idea what might happen> > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> time WITH the supplements I> > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> weight gain when I took them> > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > >> > > Thanks for any input,> > > Sherry> > > > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked

questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Well, the point is that the cleanse is designed to relax the ducts & soften the stones so they don't get stuck that way & cause that kind of pain... Says the coward who hasn't done one. But seriously, that is what the cleanse is FOR -- when your liver is all clogged up & there are painful stones...AnneOn Oct 9, 2010, at 5:18 AM, W wrote: Sorry I'm answering this late...my hubby just came home from the hospital and I'm catching up. Pam, I'm glad you mentioned that liver cleanses aren't for everyone. I too have gained weight since beginning Iodoral. And I too have liver issues. In 2007 they found what was actually termed "sludge" in my liver when they went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck liver stone (I don't have a gallbladder). I spent two days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the hall being given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I was having to the amazement of everyone. They finally believed me and went in with the scope and pulled what I knew to be the second stone...had already passed one by myself...out. I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like that, my gut tells me that traditional liver cleanses are too much for me to handle. > > > > > > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I started iodine last January. I > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the weight never came off (despite > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me in the past) UNTIL I > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow dock and methyl B12, which > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know which may have contributed > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight came off (and very quickly) > > with these supplements. > > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm terrified of the prospect of > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional (and single state), I just > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any idea what might happen > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this time WITH the supplements I > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the weight gain when I took them > > AFTER stopping iodine? > > > > Thanks for any input, > > Sherry

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That's why you may want to start with a product like TLC (www.purezenhealth.com ) or Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus. But for me that didn't take care of it. My gall bladder needed a cleanse. It felt like I had a softball under my rib cage all the time.

Steph

Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Well, the point is that the cleanse is designed to relax the ducts & soften the stones so they don't get stuck that way & cause that kind of pain... Says the coward who hasn't done one. But seriously, that is what the cleanse is FOR -- when your liver is all clogged up & there are painful stones...

Anne

On Oct 9, 2010, at 5:18 AM, W wrote:

Sorry I'm answering this late...my hubby just came home from the hospital and I'm catching up.Pam,I'm glad you mentioned that liver cleanses aren't for everyone. I too have gained weight since beginning Iodoral. And I too have liver issues.In 2007 they found what was actually termed "sludge" in my liver when they went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck liver stone (I don't have a gallbladder). I spent two days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the hall being given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I was having to the amazement of everyone. They finally believed me and went in with the scope and pulled what I knew to be the second stone...had already passed one by myself...out.I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like that, my gut tells me that traditional liver cleanses are too much for me to handle.> >> >> >> > So I gained weight almost immediately when I started iodine last January. I> > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the weight never came off (despite> > dieting techniques that has always worked for me in the past) UNTIL I> > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow dock and methyl B12, which> > I started all at the same time, so I don't know which may have contributed> > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight came off (and very quickly)> > with these supplements.> >> > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm terrified of the prospect of> > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional (and single state), I just> > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any idea what might happen> > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this time WITH the supplements I> > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the weight gain when I took them> > AFTER stopping iodine?> >> > Thanks for any input,> > Sherry

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Dr Know

If I waited to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking the Iodoral I

would never ever be able to go on it. For me- and many others I'm sure- that is

not an option. My health situation has reached that pointed where I needed to

address the root issues or face a very grim future. Would have been great to

have my doctor alongside me but that is wishful thinking- so I will listen to my

body, read all I can and dialogue with others who are on this journey to restore

our health.

Kathy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I

> > started iodine last January. I

> > > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the

> > weight never came off (despite

> > > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me

> > in the past) UNTIL I

> > > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow

> > dock and methyl B12, which

> > > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know

> > which may have contributed

> > > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight

> > came off (and very quickly)

> > > > with these supplements.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm

> > terrified of the prospect of

> > > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional

> > (and single state), I just

> > > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any

> > idea what might happen

> > > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this

> > time WITH the supplements I

> > > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the

> > weight gain when I took them

> > > > AFTER stopping iodine?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > Sherry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group 

> > IodineOT/

> >

> >

> > Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

Links

> >

> >

> >     iodine-fullfeatured

> >

> >

> >

>

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It is not necessary to get an iodine loading test before taking iodine. I took iodine for almost a year (50 mgs) before doing my first test and I was fighting thyroid cancer. It's nice to have the info but not necessary. Getting well is the goal.

Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Dr KnowIf I waited to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking the Iodoral I would never ever be able to go on it. For me- and many others I'm sure- that is not an option. My health situation has reached that pointed where I needed to address the root issues or face a very grim future. Would have been great to have my doctor alongside me but that is wishful thinking- so I will listen to my body, read all I can and dialogue with others who are on this journey to restore our health.Kathy> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> > started iodine last January. I> > > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> > weight never came off (despite> > > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> > in the past) UNTIL I> > > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> > dock and methyl B12, which> > > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> > which may have contributed> > > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> > came off (and very quickly)> > > > with these supplements.> > > >> > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> > terrified of the prospect of> > > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> > (and single state), I just> > > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> > idea what might happen> > > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> > time WITH the supplements I> > > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> > weight gain when I took them> > > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > > >> > > > Thanks for any input,> > > > Sherry> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Oh, yes. I plan on doing it when I can. Lots of us are having heavy duty financial issues. Keeping us in supplements is a challenge. The DO I go to for my thyroid is not open to iodine or detoxing. He just prescribes my compounded dessicated thyroid meds. My daughter's doctor is good for some things, but not thyroid, adrenals, or iodine. I can't seem to find a doctor who knows this stuff and takes medicaid since she is on the waiver. Periodically, I keep looking. None know as much as much as this group. And, the only one who is open is the naturepath who cannot order tests in this state and my daughter's chiro. In an ideal world, I think we all would get the testing we need. But, in the real world, we do what we can.Debbie> From: W <coralskies@...>> Subject: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine> iodine > Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 7:18 AM> Sorry I'm answering this late...my> hubby just came home from the hospital and I'm catching up.> > Pam,> > I'm glad you

mentioned that liver cleanses aren't

for> everyone. I too have gained weight since beginning> Iodoral. And I too have liver issues.> > In 2007 they found what was actually termed "sludge" in my> liver when they went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck> liver stone (I don't have a gallbladder). I spent two> days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the hall being> given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I> was having to the amazement of everyone. They finally> believed me and went in with the scope and pulled what I> knew to be the second stone...had already passed one by> myself...out.> > I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like> that, my gut tells me that traditional liver cleanses are> too much for me to handle.> > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> started iodine last January. I> > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> weight never came off (despite> > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> in the past) UNTIL I> > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> dock and methyl B12, which> > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> which may have contributed> > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> came off (and very

quickly)> > > with these supplements.> > >> > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> terrified of the prospect of> > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> (and single state), I just> > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> idea what might happen> > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> time WITH the supplements I> > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> weight gain when I took them> > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > >> > > Thanks for any input,> > > Sherry> > > > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked

questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Yeah, it would be nice to have one to compare. Iodine test or not, I do believe I'm deficient and toxic. My daughter, too. I even feel better at the higher levels, until I start to detox! :-)DebbieFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodineiodine Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 9:28 PM

It is not necessary to get an iodine loading test before taking iodine. I took iodine for almost a year (50 mgs) before doing my first test and I was fighting thyroid cancer. It's nice to have the info but not necessary. Getting well is the goal.

Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Dr KnowIf I waited to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking the Iodoral I would never ever be able to go on it. For me- and many others I'm sure- that is not an option. My health situation has reached that pointed where I needed to address the root issues or face a very grim future. Would have been great to have my doctor alongside me but that is wishful thinking- so I will listen to my body, read all I can and dialogue with others who are on this journey to restore our health.Kathy> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> > started iodine last January. I> > > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> > weight never came off (despite> > > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> > in the past) UNTIL I> > > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> > dock and methyl B12, which> > > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> > which may have contributed> > > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> > came off (and very quickly)> > > > with these supplements.> > > >> > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> > terrified of the prospect of> > > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> > (and single state), I just> > > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> > idea what might happen> > > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> > time WITH the supplements I> > > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> > weight gain when I took them> > > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > > >> > > > Thanks for any input,> > > > Sherry> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Excuse me, DK, all of a sudden you've appeared on this list and keep

insisting on this, and it's not true. Iodine first of all isn't going to

hurt someone, as was noted earlier today it washes out of the body what

isn't needed. Dr Brownstein estimates that 95% of people in the USA are

deficient in iodine. So the official stance on this issue on this list is

that while it's nice to have the test as a baseline, it is not necessary to

test before supplementing.

--

>You all need to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking any

>supplements. You need to establish exactly what your iodine count is first!

>

><http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and\

-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593>http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/\

thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593

>http://www.hakalalabs.com/testing.html

>

>It is essential to get a test done so that you know exactly what is

>happening with your thyropid. Medics currently do not offer this

>screening service. We all need to raise this as an issue with our

>respective health authorities.

>

>D

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Hi all,

OK, here goes, I wasn't suggesting that a test has to be done. I think more importantly here is that we are all suffering with some form of thyroid breakdown, some worse than others. I'm not suggesting that we should pay out for a test unless we want to just confirm the actual status of our iodine levels. It would be good just to know so that we can keep a check on it. How we establish our iodine levels is difficult if non of the medics want to listen let alone suggest a test to find out how bad this iodine deficiency in each individual person. I myself woul like to know how bad my iodine level is prior to taking supplements as getting the right dosage is important. I do not wish to be put on a life long prescription for something that hasn't been tested for. We all have blood tests done over a period of time, so why not have a test done juct to clarify the situation? I am planning on getting my whole

family tested (we can't afford this either, but surely in the long term it is better to pay once for a test than live an eternity of drug taking?) so that I can order in the correct supplies required to get us back to normal functioning. There is a lot of differences on the amounts needed to be taken so a correct diagnosis surely is needed?

Your call, you choose how you go forward with this deficiency, but I feel to find out where my immedite family stand on the levels of iodine currently are is required as we have already lost one mother for my 2 step children and to lose another even as a step would be irresponsible.

D

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 3:58:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Excuse me, DK, all of a sudden you've appeared on this list and keep insisting on this, and it's not true. Iodine first of all isn't going to hurt someone, as was noted earlier today it washes out of the body what isn't needed. Dr Brownstein estimates that 95% of people in the USA are deficient in iodine. So the official stance on this issue on this list is that while it's nice to have the test as a baseline, it is not necessary to test before supplementing.-->You all need to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking any >supplements. You need to establish exactly what your iodine count is first!>><http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593>http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593>http://www.hakalalabs.com/testing.html>>It is essential to get a test done so that you know exactly what is >happening with your thyropid. Medics currently do not offer this >screening service. We all need to raise this as an issue with our >respective health authorities.>>D~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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We have become so dependant on testing. Years ago there wasn't all the testing we have and people went by how they were feeling.

Steph

Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Dr KnowIf I waited to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking the Iodoral I would never ever be able to go on it. For me- and many others I'm sure- that is not an option. My health situation has reached that pointed where I needed to address the root issues or face a very grim future. Would have been great to have my doctor alongside me but that is wishful thinking- so I will listen to my body, read all I can and dialogue with others who are on this journey to restore our health.Kathy> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> > started iodine last January. I> > > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> > weight never came off (despite> > > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> > in the past) UNTIL I> > > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> > dock and methyl B12, which> > > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> > which may have contributed> > > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> > came off (and very quickly)> > > > with these supplements.> > > >> > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> > terrified of the prospect of> > > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> > (and single state), I just> > > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> > idea what might happen> > > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> > time WITH the supplements I> > > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> > weight gain when I took them> > > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > > >> > > > Thanks for any input,> > > > Sherry> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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D,

From what I understand, the iodine test is an indication of iodine

deficiency, but only an indication.  That is, the body may be

excreting a very high amount of iodine not because it doesn't need

it, but because it is too overloaded with toxins to make use of

it.  

Furthermore, the test will not make clear exactly what dosage is

needed.  Some people who are in great need of massive amounts will

only be able to tolerate very small amounts.

So, as suggests, it is best to go by feelings:  do you

feel sick and do the symptoms that trouble you match with a profile

of thyroid problems?  Try the iodine.  Experiment with how much you

can tolerate.  When you feel great, reduce the iodine to a

maintenance dose.

On 10/10/2010 3:20 AM, Dr Know wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

OK, here goes, I wasn't suggesting that a test has to

be done.  I think more importantly here is that we are

all suffering with some form of thyroid breakdown, some

worse than others.  I'm not suggesting that we should

pay out for a test unless we want to just confirm the

actual status of our iodine levels.  It would be good

just to know so that we can keep a check on it.  How we

establish our iodine levels is difficult if non of the

medics want to listen let alone suggest a test to find

out how bad this iodine deficiency in each individual

person.  I myself woul like to know how bad my iodine

level is prior to taking supplements as getting the

right dosage is important.  I do not wish to be put on a

life long prescription for something that hasn't been

tested for.  We all have blood tests done over a period

of time, so why not have a test done juct to clarify the

situation?  I am planning on getting my whole family

tested (we can't afford this either, but surely in the

long term it is better to pay once for a test than live

an eternity of drug taking?) so that I can order in the

correct supplies required to get us back to normal

functioning.  There is a lot of differences on the

amounts needed to be taken so a correct diagnosis surely

is needed?

 

Your call, you choose how you go forward with this

deficiency, but I feel to find out where my immedite

family stand on the levels of iodine currently are is

required as we have already lost one mother for my 2

step children and to lose another even as a step would

be irresponsible.

 

D

From:

Baker <vbaker@...>

To:

iodine

Sent:

Sun, October 10, 2010 3:58:57 AM

Subject:

Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with

Iodine

 

Excuse me, DK, all of a sudden you've appeared on

this list and keep

insisting on this, and it's not true. Iodine first

of all isn't going to

hurt someone, as was noted earlier today it washes

out of the body what

isn't needed. Dr Brownstein estimates that 95% of

people in the USA are

deficient in iodine. So the official stance on

this issue on this list is

that while it's nice to have the test as a

baseline, it is not necessary to

test before supplementing.

--

>You all need to get an Iodine Deficiency test

done prior to taking any

>supplements. You need to establish exactly

what your iodine count is first!

>

><http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593>http://www.nutri-linkltd.co.uk/2010/03/05/thyroid-and-iodineiodine-testing-and-supplementation-some-tips/#more-1593

>http://www.hakalalabs.com/testing.html

>

>It is essential to get a test done so that you

know exactly what is

>happening with your thyropid. Medics currently

do not offer this

>screening service. We all need to raise this

as an issue with our

>respective health authorities.

>

>D

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way

~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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This is so awesome. May I ask how you determine whether you have a candida problem? From: Tressler <kartrss@...>Subject: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodineiodine Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:48 PM

I am currently taking 150 mg Iodoral, 5 days a week with two days off. I have LOST over 35 lb since mid June. I don't know how much because I don't weigh unless I have to and the last time I had to was a month ago so I could do my heavy metals test. They needed to know my weight so they could prescribe the correct amount of DMSA.

For me, the ticket is (as with everyone), to keep your insulin levels low. Insulin triggers your body to either store fat (if insulin is high) or release fat (if insulin levels are maintained at a nice steady level).

Also, I had to treat candida before seeing any real progress. I did that with diet (next to no carbs for 3 months), and supplements (GSE, Candex, Yeast Defense, and a couple of others I'd have to look up). I feel a thousand percent better and I know I'm continuing to lose weight because I can feel it in the way I move and how my clothing fits. Which is to say, it doesn't any more and I've had to go down another size. Yea!

Hope this helps. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

[Guest guest]

Are you trying to claim that not getting an iodine test, or using iodine

without testing, could lead to death? You seem to be saying that it would

be irresponsible to take iodine without testing, and if so that is purely

your opinion only, it has nothing to do with the actual facts or

practice. If you're interested in learning about iodine, I would suggest

stopping it already with the " must test " obsession and learn some of the

facts.

--

>Your call, you choose how you go forward with this deficiency, but I feel

>to find out where my immedite family stand on the levels of iodine

>currently are is required as we have already lost one mother for my 2 step

>children and to lose another even as a step would be irresponsible.

>

>D

>

>

>From: Baker <vbaker@...>

>iodine

>Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 3:58:57 AM

>Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

>

>

>

>

>Excuse me, DK, all of a sudden you've appeared on this list and keep

>insisting on this, and it's not true. Iodine first of all isn't going to

>hurt someone, as was noted earlier today it washes out of the body what

>isn't needed. Dr Brownstein estimates that 95% of people in the USA are

>deficient in iodine. So the official stance on this issue on this list is

>that while it's nice to have the test as a baseline, it is not necessary to

>test before supplementing.

>

>--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of Chinese medicine about gentle liver

cleansing while she keeps an eye on my adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and hypothyroid

(1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be increased this Friday). I'll be sure to

post anything of interest she might convey.

Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good way to support liver

detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is supposed to

help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs of ginger tea and a

fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual schedule while my hubby's

been sick, I haven't been drinking that much.

The odd thing is that I was taking a very pure form of milk thistle and

dandelion root for liver support and recently stopped when I landed in the

hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements, MOST of my

side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me?

The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I developed a

sore in my left nostril and my upper lip swelled up and I got the most unusual

cold sore on the middle of my upper lip. My belly is so bloated that I look

pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a form of detox.

>

> My acupuncturist/ND has always said that I'm sensitive and fragile and he's

> afraid the oil/citrus liver cleanse would be too harsh on my system. I'm

> going to do the Dr Hyman cleansing diet and then see where I'm at.

>

> --

>

>

> >Sorry I'm answering this late...my hubby just came home from the hospital

> >and I'm catching up.

> >

> >Pam,

> >

> >I'm glad you mentioned that liver cleanses aren't for everyone. I too

> >have gained weight since beginning Iodoral. And I too have liver issues.

> >

> >In 2007 they found what was actually termed " sludge " in my liver when they

> >went in with a scope to retrieve a stuck liver stone (I don't have a

> >gallbladder). I spent two days on a gurney in the ER on a gurney in the

> >hall being given Dilaudid which didn't even begin to touch the pain I was

> >having to the amazement of everyone. They finally believed me and went in

> >with the scope and pulled what I knew to be the second stone...had already

> >passed one by myself...out.

> >

> >I know my liver is congested, but after having pain like that, my gut

> >tells me that traditional liver cleanses are too much for me to handle.

> >

> >

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

For us gallbladderless gals, I was told that it is important to eat three

separate meals...no snacking...a day at as close to the same time of day as you

can get in order to " train " your liver when to release bile into the small

intestine for proper digestion. Otherwise our livers drip, drip, drip bile and

that harms the small intestine. I don't know if this training routine really

works. But I'm no longer a snacker.

That mention of SLUDGE in the report from the endoscope really sent me for a

loop. Who wants sludge anywhere inside of them???

>

> Wow, . I don't have a gall bladder either. I bet that is why my liver

got overloaded when I tried that so-called gentle detox for me.

>

> Debbie

[Guest guest]

As one coward to another (love your posts Anne), I took malic acid for a long

time, but never got up the nerve for the actual cleanse. I just can't shake

that painful memory. I'm seeing a new doc and maybe she will have a middle of

the road solution for me.

You're so right. The softening is a big part of this cleanse that I think gets

underappreciated.

>

> Well, the point is that the cleanse is designed to relax the ducts &

> soften the stones so they don't get stuck that way & cause that kind

> of pain... Says the coward who hasn't done one. But seriously, that

> is what the cleanse is FOR -- when your liver is all clogged up &

> there are painful stones...

>

> Anne

[Guest guest]

I SO agree with you Steph.

I have " felt " hypothyroid for seven years (probably longer, but have experienced

a pronounced decline for the last seven) and my test results have consistently

come back within normal range. Finally my tests are now beginning to reflect

hypoT and I finally found a doc who will prescribe thyroid and adrenal meds

(need both according to tests). I can't help but think I could have avoided so

many problems and so much debilitation if medicos were still treating their

patients based on clinical symptoms rather than where they register on the bell

curve of life.

I watched both my maternal grandmother and my mother suffer in this way too.

I'm not a fan of testing.

>

> We have become so dependant on testing. Years ago there wasn't all the

testing we have and people went by how they were feeling.

>

> Steph

[Guest guest]

Hi

Yes, lemon water is good for the liver but not an effective way to

detoxify. Milk thistle seed and

dandelion root and leaf are also great for support and even detoxification

(although it will probably be a slow process if used by themselves). However, if one is going to effectively

cleanse (which means getting rid of stones) they should be using something to

soften or break-up the stones to avoid concerns with the passing of stones. Good choices would be malic acid (doing

the liver cleanse with organic apple juice will supply this); wildcrafted herb Chanca

Piedra or with a product called Super-Phos 30 (Ortho-phosphoric

acid).

Be Well

Dr.L

-----Original Message-----

I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of

Chinese medicine about gentle liver cleansing while she keeps an eye on my

adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be

increased this Friday). I'll be

sure to post anything of interest she might convey.

Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good

way to support liver detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is

supposed to help the liver. I got

up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs of ginger tea and a fiber drink per

day. But being away from my usual

schedule while my hubby's been sick, I haven't been drinking that much.

The odd thing is that I was taking a very

pure form of milk thistle and dandelion root for liver support and recently

stopped when I landed in the hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements,

MOST of my side/liver ache went away.

Now what does that tell me?

The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I developed a sore in my left nostril

and my upper lip swelled up and I got the most unusual cold sore on the middle

of my upper lip. My belly is so

bloated that I look pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a form of detox.

[Guest guest]

In some ways, it was the good old days. I know, that testing can be good and even necessary at times. When I have gotten testing for me or my daughter, I often have to fight for the tests I want and don't always win. And, too often when there is testing, the doctors do not understand optimal levels. Too many seem to have the viewpoint of one size fits all. We are all different. Thank God for the internet and groups like this one. Even tho, I often feel like a lab rat! ;-) Debbie

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodineiodine Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 9:28 PM

It is not necessary to get an iodine loading test before taking iodine. I took iodine for almost a year (50 mgs) before doing my first test and I was fighting thyroid cancer. It's nice to have the info but not necessary. Getting well is the goal.

Re: Weight Gain/Detox Issues with Iodine

Dr KnowIf I waited to get an Iodine Deficiency test done prior to taking the Iodoral I would never ever be able to go on it. For me- and many others I'm sure- that is not an option. My health situation has reached that pointed where I needed to address the root issues or face a very grim future. Would have been great to have my doctor alongside me but that is wishful thinking- so I will listen to my body, read all I can and dialogue with others who are on this journey to restore our health.Kathy> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So I gained weight almost immediately when I> > started iodine last January. I> > > > stopped the iodine a few months ago, and the> > weight never came off (despite> > > > dieting techniques that has always worked for me> > in the past) UNTIL I> > > > started taking some chlorella, dandelion, yellow> > dock and methyl B12, which> > > > I started all at the same time, so I don't know> > which may have contributed> > > > to getting rid of the weight. Some of the weight> > came off (and very quickly)> > > > with these supplements.> > > >> > > > I would like to start iodine again, but I'm> > terrified of the prospect of> > > > gaining the weight back. In my current emotional> > (and single state), I just> > > > can't tolerate being fat. Does anyone have any> > idea what might happen> > > > (weight wise) if I restart the iodine, but this> > time WITH the supplements I> > > > mentioned above, which helped get rid of the> > weight gain when I took them> > > > AFTER stopping iodine?> > > >> > > > Thanks for any input,> > > > Sherry> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. L,

Wow, what a gift of information you've given me. I used to drink a tea made

with chanca piedra years ago. May I contact you off-list?

Thanks,

>

> Hi

>

> Yes, lemon water is good for the liver but not an effective way to detoxify.

> Milk thistle seed and dandelion root and leaf are also great for support and

> even detoxification (although it will probably be a slow process if used by

> themselves). However, if one is going to effectively cleanse (which means

> getting rid of stones) they should be using something to soften or break-up

> the stones to avoid concerns with the passing of stones. Good choices would

> be malic acid (doing the liver cleanse with organic apple juice will supply

> this); wildcrafted herb Chanca Piedra or with a product called Super-Phos 30

> (Ortho-phosphoric acid).

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

>

> I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of Chinese medicine about gentle

> liver cleansing while she keeps an eye on my adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and

> hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be increased this Friday).

> I'll be sure to post anything of interest she might convey.

>

> Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good way to support liver

> detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is supposed

> to help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs of ginger tea

> and a fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual schedule while my

> hubby's been sick, I haven't been drinking that much.

>

> The odd thing is that I was taking a very pure form of milk thistle and

> dandelion root for liver support and recently stopped when I landed in the

> hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements, MOST of

> my side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me?

>

> The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I developed

> a sore in my left nostril and my upper lip swelled up and I got the most

> unusual cold sore on the middle of my upper lip. My belly is so bloated

> that I look pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a form of

> detox.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don’t ever mind answering a few questions here and there from

those on the lists that I frequent. J

Be Well

Dr.L

-----Original Message-----

Hi Dr. L,

Wow, what a gift of information you've given

me. I used to drink a tea made with

chanca piedra years ago. May I

contact you off-list?

Thanks,

>

> Hi

>

> Yes, lemon water is good for the liver

but not an effective way to detoxify.

> Milk thistle seed and dandelion root and

leaf are also great for support and

> even detoxification (although it will

probably be a slow process if used by

> themselves). However, if one is going to effectively

cleanse (which means

> getting rid of stones) they should be

using something to soften or break-up

> the stones to avoid concerns with the

passing of stones. Good choices

would

> be malic acid (doing the liver cleanse with

organic apple juice will supply

> this); wildcrafted herb Chanca Piedra or

with a product called Super-Phos 30

> (Ortho-phosphoric acid).

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

>

> I'll be checking in with my new

MD/doctor of Chinese medicine about gentle

> liver cleansing while she keeps an eye

on my adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and

> hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which

needs to be increased this Friday).

> I'll be sure to post anything of

interest she might convey.

>

> Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a

good way to support liver

> detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is

supposed

> to help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big

mugs of ginger tea

> and a fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual schedule

while my

> hubby's been sick, I haven't been

drinking that much.

>

> The odd thing is that I was taking a

very pure form of milk thistle and

> dandelion root for liver support and

recently stopped when I landed in the

> hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements,

MOST of

> my side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me?

>

> The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I developed

> a sore in my left nostril and my upper

lip swelled up and I got the most

> unusual cold sore on the middle of my

upper lip. My belly is so bloated

> that I look pregnant at 53 years of

age. I think this is all a form of

> detox.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those of us who have gained weight with iodine/detox, does anyone know if

the weight gain issue would be more likely to occur at lower or higher dosages

of iodine?

I posted a few days ago about starting back on iodine after abandoning it a few

months ago due to weight gain...I recently found some supplements (chlorella,

coriander, yellow dock) that helped get rid of most of that weight I gained,

which I assume was related to an inability to flush out toxins.

I just started on iodine again two days ago, and I'm feeling MUCH better than I

have lately. I'm taking about 30 mg of Lugol's daily. I'm interested to see what

would happen if I raise that amount, but I'm terrified about the prospect of

weight gain again, and I don't know if that risk may be intensified by a larger

amount of iodine. I don't think I've ever taken more than the 30 mg daily.

Sherry

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Yes, lemon water is good for the liver but not an effective way to

> detoxify.

> > Milk thistle seed and dandelion root and leaf are also great for support

> and

> > even detoxification (although it will probably be a slow process if used

> by

> > themselves). However, if one is going to effectively cleanse (which means

> > getting rid of stones) they should be using something to soften or

> break-up

> > the stones to avoid concerns with the passing of stones. Good choices

> would

> > be malic acid (doing the liver cleanse with organic apple juice will

> supply

> > this); wildcrafted herb Chanca Piedra or with a product called Super-Phos

> 30

> > (Ortho-phosphoric acid).

> >

> > Be Well

> > Dr.L

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> >

> >

> > I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of Chinese medicine about gentle

> > liver cleansing while she keeps an eye on my adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and

> > hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be increased this Friday).

> > I'll be sure to post anything of interest she might convey.

> >

> > Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good way to support liver

> > detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is supposed

> > to help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs of ginger

> tea

> > and a fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual schedule while my

> > hubby's been sick, I haven't been drinking that much.

> >

> > The odd thing is that I was taking a very pure form of milk thistle and

> > dandelion root for liver support and recently stopped when I landed in the

> > hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements, MOST

> of

> > my side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me?

> >

> > The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I

> developed

> > a sore in my left nostril and my upper lip swelled up and I got the most

> > unusual cold sore on the middle of my upper lip. My belly is so bloated

> > that I look pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a form of

> > detox.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If the problem really is overtaxing your liver, then lower amounts of iodine should reduce the rate of detox, & that might help your liver to keep up.AnneOn Oct 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, lookonthebriteside wrote: For those of us who have gained weight with iodine/detox, does anyone know if the weight gain issue would be more likely to occur at lower or higher dosages of iodine? I posted a few days ago about starting back on iodine after abandoning it a few months ago due to weight gain...I recently found some supplements (chlorella, coriander, yellow dock) that helped get rid of most of that weight I gained, which I assume was related to an inability to flush out toxins. I just started on iodine again two days ago, and I'm feeling MUCH better than I have lately. I'm taking about 30 mg of Lugol's daily. I'm interested to see what would happen if I raise that amount, but I'm terrified about the prospect of weight gain again, and I don't know if that risk may be intensified by a larger amount of iodine. I don't think I've ever taken more than the 30 mg daily. Sherry > > > > Hi > > > > Yes, lemon water is good for the liver but not an effective way to > detoxify. > > Milk thistle seed and dandelion root and leaf are also great for support > and > > even detoxification (although it will probably be a slow process if used > by > > themselves). However, if one is going to effectively cleanse (which means > > getting rid of stones) they should be using something to soften or > break-up > > the stones to avoid concerns with the passing of stones. Good choices > would > > be malic acid (doing the liver cleanse with organic apple juice will > supply > > this); wildcrafted herb Chanca Piedra or with a product called Super-Phos > 30 > > (Ortho-phosphoric acid). > > > > Be Well > > Dr.L > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of Chinese medicine about gentle > > liver cleansing while she keeps an eye on my adrenal fatigue (Cortef) and > > hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be increased this Friday). > > I'll be sure to post anything of interest she might convey. > > > > Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good way to support liver > > detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water is supposed > > to help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs of ginger > tea > > and a fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual schedule while my > > hubby's been sick, I haven't been drinking that much. > > > > The odd thing is that I was taking a very pure form of milk thistle and > > dandelion root for liver support and recently stopped when I landed in the > > hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two supplements, MOST > of > > my side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me? > > > > The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I > developed > > a sore in my left nostril and my upper lip swelled up and I got the most > > unusual cold sore on the middle of my upper lip. My belly is so bloated > > that I look pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a form of > > detox. > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Anne...I was thinking it could be the case that a higher dose of iodine

might be able to force the toxins out more smoothly...I was sort of hoping that

might be the case because I was anxious to try a higher amount given that I feel

better...I was hoping to feel even more better on a greater amount of iodine,

but I don't want to risk the weight gain again any more than I already am.

Sherry

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > Yes, lemon water is good for the liver but not an effective way to

> > > detoxify.

> > > > Milk thistle seed and dandelion root and leaf are also great

> > for support

> > > and

> > > > even detoxification (although it will probably be a slow

> > process if used

> > > by

> > > > themselves). However, if one is going to effectively cleanse

> > (which means

> > > > getting rid of stones) they should be using something to soften or

> > > break-up

> > > > the stones to avoid concerns with the passing of stones. Good

> > choices

> > > would

> > > > be malic acid (doing the liver cleanse with organic apple juice

> > will

> > > supply

> > > > this); wildcrafted herb Chanca Piedra or with a product called

> > Super-Phos

> > > 30

> > > > (Ortho-phosphoric acid).

> > > >

> > > > Be Well

> > > > Dr.L

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'll be checking in with my new MD/doctor of Chinese medicine

> > about gentle

> > > > liver cleansing while she keeps an eye on my adrenal fatigue

> > (Cortef) and

> > > > hypothyroid (1/4 grain of Armour which needs to be increased

> > this Friday).

> > > > I'll be sure to post anything of interest she might convey.

> > > >

> > > > Lemon juice in water is supposed to be a good way to support liver

> > > > detoxification, isn't it? And drinking lots and lots of water

> > is supposed

> > > > to help the liver. I got up to 1 1/2 liters plus two big mugs

> > of ginger

> > > tea

> > > > and a fiber drink per day. But being away from my usual

> > schedule while my

> > > > hubby's been sick, I haven't been drinking that much.

> > > >

> > > > The odd thing is that I was taking a very pure form of milk

> > thistle and

> > > > dandelion root for liver support and recently stopped when I

> > landed in the

> > > > hospital a couple weeks ago. When I stopped those two

> > supplements, MOST

> > > of

> > > > my side/liver ache went away. Now what does that tell me?

> > > >

> > > > The iodine is definitely helping. I'm up to 31.25 mgs per day. I

> > > developed

> > > > a sore in my left nostril and my upper lip swelled up and I got

> > the most

> > > > unusual cold sore on the middle of my upper lip. My belly is so

> > bloated

> > > > that I look pregnant at 53 years of age. I think this is all a

> > form of

> > > > detox.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>