Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I'm also worried. I gained 2 kgs last time I got up to 50 with iodine, then stopped because of detox and have now been up to 50 again for almost a week but have put on another 2 kgs in the last week. These 4 kgs are my first weight gain in just over a year but before then I'd put on a lot with Hashis. On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:52 AM, jlavigne01 <jlavigne01@...> wrote: Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now. I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight piling up. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 A liver cleanse might be in order. Also, have you tried Naturethroid or Armour thyroid? Most people feel better on natural thyroid. Just a thought. Kathleen =-) Gaining weight with the iodine Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid andon 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeksago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'mgaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loadingmorning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'mtaking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can bedoing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now.I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't knowwhat else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weightpiling up. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Salt Loading, detox, and weight gain, please read: Once again it seems there is massive confusion about what salt loading is. No one should be salt loading " morning and evening so twice a day " every day. Salt loading is only supposed to be used for a few days maximum (no more than 7 days) when detox symptoms are a problem. If the detox symptoms keep recurring, or if the salt loading is not helping, then there is a deeper problem with one's detox pathways and more salt loading is not going to help. It is understood scientifically and anecdotally that if the detox pathways are not open and functioning, a person will put on weight when detoxing because the toxins that the body is trying to get rid of (but can't) will be stored as fat. Whenever the body doesn't know what to do with something, it stores it as fat. That is why people can get fat eating aspartame, for example. If salt loading hasn't worked in 4 days (7 max), stop salt loading. Lower the dose of iodine, for sure. Sometimes all that is required is backing down off the dose for a week or two and then slowly raising it again. However, if someone is putting on weight, simply lowering the iodine dose is not going to work. You will have to do physical detoxification regimens of one kind or another, or of several kinds. The liver/gallbladder flush is often discussed. There are also various kinds of clean-out diets that last for 7 to 14 days with varying types of followup and returning to more normal eating. What is called " far infrared saunas " or " infrared saunas " work super well for opening detox pathways. ETC. It's not the salt. It's that the body requires to be cleaned out before it can adequately process the toxins that the iodine is dislodging from the cells. A further source of constant confusion is that unrefined salt is also required as one of the companion nutrients. This is 1/2 tsp unrefined salt per day, plus liberal use on food. Some people use even more as their standard daily dose, especially people with adrenal fatigue. This standard supplement amount can be taken mixed with water, it can be taken by putting it in empty capsules, it can be taken by ensuring you use that full amount on food throughout the day. It doesn't matter how you take the salt that is the portion for the companion nutrient. If salt loading is done, that is over and above the standard companion dose. If salt loading is done, it is not done more than 7 days in a row. If one is still suffering disturbing detox symptoms after 7 days of attempting to alleviate with salt loading, STOP DOING the salt loading. It's not going to work, and by ignoring the true problem you're building up more and more toxins in the body that it can't get rid of and therefore will store as fat. The true problem is that your detox pathways aren't working correctly and you have to do some work on them. There's no getting around this. It's not the iodine, and it's not the salt. It's that your body can't flush out the toxins and is storing them as fat. hope this helps, -- >Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and >on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks >ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm >gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading >morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm >taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be >doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now. >I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know >what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight >piling up. Suggestions? ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Thanks Kathleen. I just started on Milk Thistle but maybe a stronger cleanse is in order. My doctor said that we can't get Armour in our area any more but I just started with a Naturopathic M.D. who just ran a bunch of blood panels so I'll ask him at my next appointment. Perhaps I should cut out all sugars? It's hard to do consistently but maybe it would help now? > > A liver cleanse might be in order. Also, have you tried Naturethroid or Armour thyroid? Most people feel better on natural thyroid. Just a thought. Kathleen =-) > Gaining weight with the iodine > > > > Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and > on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks > ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm > gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading > morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm > taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be > doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now. > I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know > what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight > piling up. Suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Thank you for the information. I'll back off a bit on the dosage and look into a liver flush. > > Salt Loading, detox, and weight gain, please read: > > Once again it seems there is massive confusion about what salt loading is. > No one should be salt loading " morning and evening so twice a day " every > day. Salt loading is only supposed to be used for a few days maximum (no > more than 7 days) when detox symptoms are a problem. If the detox symptoms > keep recurring, or if the salt loading is not helping, then there is a > deeper problem with one's detox pathways and more salt loading is not going > to help. > > It is understood scientifically and anecdotally that if the detox pathways > are not open and functioning, a person will put on weight when detoxing > because the toxins that the body is trying to get rid of (but can't) will > be stored as fat. Whenever the body doesn't know what to do with something, > it stores it as fat. That is why people can get fat eating aspartame, for > example. > > If salt loading hasn't worked in 4 days (7 max), stop salt loading. Lower > the dose of iodine, for sure. Sometimes all that is required is backing > down off the dose for a week or two and then slowly raising it > again. However, if someone is putting on weight, simply lowering the > iodine dose is not going to work. You will have to do physical > detoxification regimens of one kind or another, or of several kinds. The > liver/gallbladder flush is often discussed. There are also various kinds > of clean-out diets that last for 7 to 14 days with varying types of > followup and returning to more normal eating. What is called " far infrared > saunas " or " infrared saunas " work super well for opening detox pathways. ETC. > > It's not the salt. It's that the body requires to be cleaned out before it > can adequately process the toxins that the iodine is dislodging from the cells. > > A further source of constant confusion is that unrefined salt is also > required as one of the companion nutrients. This is 1/2 tsp unrefined salt > per day, plus liberal use on food. Some people use even more as their > standard daily dose, especially people with adrenal fatigue. This standard > supplement amount can be taken mixed with water, it can be taken by putting > it in empty capsules, it can be taken by ensuring you use that full amount > on food throughout the day. It doesn't matter how you take the salt that > is the portion for the companion nutrient. > > If salt loading is done, that is over and above the standard companion > dose. If salt loading is done, it is not done more than 7 days in a > row. If one is still suffering disturbing detox symptoms after 7 days of > attempting to alleviate with salt loading, STOP DOING the salt loading. > It's not going to work, and by ignoring the true problem you're building up > more and more toxins in the body that it can't get rid of and therefore > will store as fat. > > The true problem is that your detox pathways aren't working correctly and > you have to do some work on them. There's no getting around this. It's not > the iodine, and it's not the salt. It's that your body can't flush out the > toxins and is storing them as fat. > > hope this helps, > -- > > > >Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and > >on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks > >ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm > >gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading > >morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm > >taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be > >doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now. > >I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know > >what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight > >piling up. Suggestions? > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Thank you , I found your knowledge to be a great help. Holly From: jlavigne01 <jlavigne01@...>Subject: Re: Gaining weight with the iodineiodine Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 7:20 AM Thank you for the information. I'll back off a bit on the dosage and look into a liver flush. >> Salt Loading, detox, and weight gain, please read:> > Once again it seems there is massive confusion about what salt loading is. > No one should be salt loading "morning and evening so twice a day" every > day. Salt loading is only supposed to be used for a few days maximum (no > more than 7 days) when detox symptoms are a problem. If the detox symptoms > keep recurring, or if the salt loading is not helping, then there is a > deeper problem with one's detox pathways and more salt loading is not going > to help.> > It is understood scientifically and anecdotally that if the detox pathways > are not open and functioning, a person will put on weight when detoxing > because the toxins that the body is trying to get rid of (but can't) will > be stored as fat. Whenever the body doesn't know what to do with something, > it stores it as fat. That is why people can get fat eating aspartame, for > example.> > If salt loading hasn't worked in 4 days (7 max), stop salt loading. Lower > the dose of iodine, for sure. Sometimes all that is required is backing > down off the dose for a week or two and then slowly raising it > again. However, if someone is putting on weight, simply lowering the > iodine dose is not going to work. You will have to do physical > detoxification regimens of one kind or another, or of several kinds. The > liver/gallbladder flush is often discussed. There are also various kinds > of clean-out diets that last for 7 to 14 days with varying types of > followup and returning to more normal eating. What is called "far infrared > saunas" or "infrared saunas" work super well for opening detox pathways. ETC.> > It's not the salt. It's that the body requires to be cleaned out before it > can adequately process the toxins that the iodine is dislodging from the cells.> > A further source of constant confusion is that unrefined salt is also > required as one of the companion nutrients. This is 1/2 tsp unrefined salt > per day, plus liberal use on food. Some people use even more as their > standard daily dose, especially people with adrenal fatigue. This standard > supplement amount can be taken mixed with water, it can be taken by putting > it in empty capsules, it can be taken by ensuring you use that full amount > on food throughout the day. It doesn't matter how you take the salt that > is the portion for the companion nutrient.> > If salt loading is done, that is over and above the standard companion > dose. If salt loading is done, it is not done more than 7 days in a > row. If one is still suffering disturbing detox symptoms after 7 days of > attempting to alleviate with salt loading, STOP DOING the salt loading. > It's not going to work, and by ignoring the true problem you're building up > more and more toxins in the body that it can't get rid of and therefore > will store as fat.> > The true problem is that your detox pathways aren't working correctly and > you have to do some work on them. There's no getting around this. It's not > the iodine, and it's not the salt. It's that your body can't flush out the > toxins and is storing them as fat.> > hope this helps,> --> > > >Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and> >on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks> >ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm> >gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading> >morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm> >taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be> >doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now.> >I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know> >what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight> >piling up. Suggestions?> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> --A.J. Muste> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Armour is available everywhere now--ask at your local pharmacies. Gracia On 10/17/2010 7:11 AM, jlavigne01 wrote: Thanks Kathleen. I just started on Milk Thistle but maybe a stronger cleanse is in order. My doctor said that we can't get Armour in our area any more but I just started with a Naturopathic M.D. who just ran a bunch of blood panels so I'll ask him at my next appointment. Perhaps I should cut out all sugars? It's hard to do consistently but maybe it would help now? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Glad to help. btw, I think this was already suggested but, I never felt decent at all until I changed to whole thyroid, in my case NatureThroid. The difference was night and day. -- >Thank you for the information. I'll back off a bit on the dosage >and look into a liver flush. > > > > > > Salt Loading, detox, and weight gain, please read: > > > > Once again it seems there is massive confusion about what salt loading is. > > No one should be salt loading " morning and evening so twice a day " every > > day. Salt loading is only supposed to be used for a few days maximum (no > > more than 7 days) when detox symptoms are a problem. If the detox symptoms > > keep recurring, or if the salt loading is not helping, then there is a > > deeper problem with one's detox pathways and more salt loading is not > going > > to help. > > > > It is understood scientifically and anecdotally that if the detox pathways > > are not open and functioning, a person will put on weight when detoxing > > because the toxins that the body is trying to get rid of (but can't) will > > be stored as fat. Whenever the body doesn't know what to do with > something, > > it stores it as fat. That is why people can get fat eating aspartame, for > > example. > > > > If salt loading hasn't worked in 4 days (7 max), stop salt loading. Lower > > the dose of iodine, for sure. Sometimes all that is required is backing > > down off the dose for a week or two and then slowly raising it > > again. However, if someone is putting on weight, simply lowering the > > iodine dose is not going to work. You will have to do physical > > detoxification regimens of one kind or another, or of several kinds. The > > liver/gallbladder flush is often discussed. There are also various kinds > > of clean-out diets that last for 7 to 14 days with varying types of > > followup and returning to more normal eating. What is called " far infrared > > saunas " or " infrared saunas " work super well for opening detox > pathways. ETC. > > > > It's not the salt. It's that the body requires to be cleaned out before it > > can adequately process the toxins that the iodine is dislodging from > the cells. > > > > A further source of constant confusion is that unrefined salt is also > > required as one of the companion nutrients. This is 1/2 tsp unrefined > salt > > per day, plus liberal use on food. Some people use even more as their > > standard daily dose, especially people with adrenal fatigue. This > standard > > supplement amount can be taken mixed with water, it can be taken by > putting > > it in empty capsules, it can be taken by ensuring you use that full amount > > on food throughout the day. It doesn't matter how you take the salt that > > is the portion for the companion nutrient. > > > > If salt loading is done, that is over and above the standard companion > > dose. If salt loading is done, it is not done more than 7 days in a > > row. If one is still suffering disturbing detox symptoms after 7 days of > > attempting to alleviate with salt loading, STOP DOING the salt loading. > > It's not going to work, and by ignoring the true problem you're > building up > > more and more toxins in the body that it can't get rid of and therefore > > will store as fat. > > > > The true problem is that your detox pathways aren't working correctly and > > you have to do some work on them. There's no getting around this. It's not > > the iodine, and it's not the salt. It's that your body can't flush out the > > toxins and is storing them as fat. > > > > hope this helps, > > -- > > > > > > >Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and > > >on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks > > >ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm > > >gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading > > >morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm > > >taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be > > >doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now. > > >I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know > > >what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight > > >piling up. Suggestions? > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yes, ask your Natureopath, you will feel so much better on natural animal thyroid, if Naturethroid or Armour isn't availabe in your area, I would think your pharmacist could order some. And yes, cut out all the sugars, including natural ones as well, try the white stevia powder( I like NOW brand and KAL brand) , make sure its pure stevia though, not mixed with other ingredients. Milk Thistle daily is good for the liver as are Carrot/apple juice and green juices . Coffee enemas also help the liver release toxins and can be very helpful to keep up with the toxins being released while on a cleansing diet. Gaining weight with the iodine> > > > Hi all, I love this group and I've learned so much. I'm hypothyroid and> on 75 mcg of Synthroid. I started the iodine protocol about 3-4 weeks> ago and have increased the Iodoral to 75 but I've just noticed that I'm> gaining weight around my middle - yikes. I'm petrified. I'm salt loading> morning and evening so twice a day and drinking lots of water. I'm> taking all the companion supplements. Is there something else I can be> doing? I had some detox with acne on my face but that's cleared up now.> I teach fitness classes on the side so I'm pretty active. I don't know> what else to do. I am GF and a vegetarian. I hate seeing the weight> piling up. Suggestions?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi Is Naturethyroid medication only available on prescription? x Jacqui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010  Yes it is prescription only http://www.nature-throid.com/ Re: Gaining weight with the iodine Hi Is Naturethyroid medication only available on prescription? x Jacqui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi Jacqui I am in the UK and I buy my own dessicated thyroid fron the International Pharmacy. You can get Armour or Naturethroid. http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/products/brand/a/6 Another alternative is Value Pharmacy. They say they have Armour thyroid but it is actually ERFA from Canada. It works just as well and is a lot cheaper. I have never had a problem buying online and I have been doing it for a few years now. http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com/Armour-Thyroid.php > > Hi > Is Naturethyroid medication only available on prescription? > x Jacqui > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi Jacqui, I order my own Nature-Throid from Inhouse Pharmacy who ship to Australia, Europe and the US. http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/general/westhroid.html Ziggy > > > > Hi > > Is Naturethyroid medication only available on prescription? > > x Jacqui > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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