Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 This is for MikeM. http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Theory/CancerTheory.html > iodine > From: yardbirdmail@...> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:59:59 -0600> Subject: Re: Re: bromine in bread> > Mike, for most of us illness is a cumulative > effect of damage done by these "toxins" depending > on genetics and individual metabolisms. There may > not have to be that much present, but the presence > of even small amounts of the chemicals cause the > damage they have done over time. Drugs in > prescriptions are not taken in large doses yet > they have quite a large effect. The level of > toxins that will make me ill with cancer, > fibromyalgia, or whatever may not be the same > level that will make someone else ill.> > But in most cases the body has struggled with the > load of multiple toxins for years. There is no > overnight cure. Sure you can begin to FEEL better > fairly soon but the the body takes much longer to > heal, and that varies with the individual. > Patience is required. No one got this way > overnight and the recovery isn't going to be fast. > It takes lifestyle changes and choices to get better.> > Demanding that people give you a "firm number" of > how much is in everything is a defense mechanism. > It is not productive. That is concentrating on > everything but the solution to the problem. > Excretion tests show that they are in the body > where they shouldn't be. And unfortunately bromide > is just one of several hundred toxic substances > that can be found in our bodies.> > It's not so much how much is in everything but how > much we can get rid of. That is what causes > illness the body's elimination pathways become > overwhelmed, the toxins build up in tissues and > organs, and the exposure to these substances > causes more and more damage until serious illness > occurs.> > I truthfully don't care how much is in the off > gassing from a new car, it's enough for me to know > that it's there, and avoid it, or help the body > get rid of it. The same with bromides in flour, I > don't care, it doesn't belong in the body in any > amount, so I don't buy breads that contain > bromides, simple. I filter my water so I don't get > more fluoride and chlorine and other water born > chemicals. I do everything that I am able to do to > reduce the chemicals in my environment to reduce > the load and increase excretion. That's all we can > do.> > It would take very expensive equipment to measure > the off gassing of bromine and formaldehyde in a > new car, and or a home. I don't know about you but > I don't have that kind of money.> > Bethann> > "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not > ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge" > ~ Hawking> > mmurra777 wrote> > I have not been asking for exact figures, just worst case scenarios.> > Why should I do anything without question and thought.> > Focusing on a solution without specifying the problem was a guaranteed > > method for the receipt a failing grade when I was in school, and > > continuing failures on the job and in life.> > > > List members are having excretion tests done, some on a regular basis.> > I am saying put the information to use.> > As observed about the bromine mine.> > Can one trust the tests?> > I have 'severe chronic kidney disease'. That is, based solely on blood > > creatinine levels. That finding is what led to the discoveries of the > > cancers that I actually do have. Long story, not so long; companion > > drags me to her doctor, in July '07, because of minor ongoing mid -back > > pain in the area of where we thought kidney is. Doctor runs blood work - > > creatinine through the roof (295 ref: 60 - 110 umol/L). To verify, has > > me repeat blood work - result is normal level. Arranges for specialist > > and has me do a 'tie breaker' (less than a month has passed) - > > creatinine again through the roof. Months pass, specialist runs full > > battery, urinary system in excellent condition, other things found in > > passing not so good, including two lesions on liver. Time goes by, about > > 14 months after last previous visit to her/my doctor (his practice is a > > two hr drive from my place, he was just one of her many, I avoid doctors > > like the plague) I visit to get some tests (I'm a test junkie) that I > > cannot wrangle from the hematologist (see other posts), he includes the > > creatinine. It comes back again through the roof. Here's the kicker. I > > inform the Dr. during our visit that I am scheduled for routine tracking > > blood work at the cancer centre within the week. He tells me to take his > > req. to the clinic and have them add his tests to their work. They > > politely refuse (a funding thing) as I knew they would. Took his req to > > a local private lab (national organization) , had that blood draw less > > than three hours after the cancer centre draw. Creatinine is always > > included on my quarterly centre blood work.> > > > Next visit to Dr. (to pick up special order of fish oil (waste of money > > for me), he means well, has very best prices (must be at or near cost) > > on the supps he stocks, and is very open minded to alternative > > treatments, he's and M.D.) a few weeks later. His first words; "We have > > to get you into a hospital now". His lab report - creatinine through the > > roof. I had no symptoms, even the back discomfort has disappeared months > > ago. Plus, I had received no calls from the clinic about the result of > > their blood work. Emergency call from Dr. to hematologist back home. > > More blood work same day here at my home town cancer clinic (hemo and > > oncology work together at clinic). Creatinine normal. Other lab > > anomalies have occurred.> > > > Bottom line. If you do not know what is in you how can you believe > > anything about what you are being told about what is being excreted out > > of you.> > > > MikeM> > > > P.S. My apologies to all for the long winded posts and my disturbing the > > status quo.> > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I remember an old adage I think it is from homeopathy and it goes something like this -- however long it took you to become ill, it will take that much time in reverse to cure it. Well, at my age I expect I will not last long enough to cure myself. I will make the effort to do it though. That is why I came to iodine. I have personally experienced the benefits of taking it so I know it works, at least for me. Judging from what I have been reading here, it works for a lot of other people as well. There is another old saying -- you will have the face you deserve by the time you are 50. I think that applies to health also. I had a few problems over the years due to lifestyle choices but it wasn't until about that age that my health became impossible to ignore. I have probably been hypothyroid since childhood but the body being so wonderfully adaptive allowed me relatively good health. Now that my awareness has greatly improved and I have taken measures to compensate for the decline of my later years I feel in many ways better than I did 20 years ago. I like Anne above would prefer to end my days as an active person rather than an invalid. My father did this and when he was at his end they put him in an institution, dehydrated him and put him on morphine rather than giving him the love he deserved and allowing him to pass in his own time. There was nothing I could do about that. I spent the last few days with him which was all I could do back then. He passed several hours after I left him. He wasn't able to talk to me but we renewed our bond. beth Kubler-Ross once said the only real cure is unconditional love. I have found more of that on this group than in any doctor's office I have ever visited. God bless to all, >> Mike, for most of us illness is a cumulative > effect of damage done by these " toxins " depending > on genetics and individual metabolisms.... > It's not so much how much is in everything but how > much we can get rid of. That is what causes > illness the body's elimination pathways become > overwhelmed, the toxins build up in tissues and > organs, and the exposure to these substances > causes more and more damage until serious illness > occurs.> > I truthfully don't care how much is in the off > gassing from a new car, it's enough for me to know > that it's there, and avoid it, or help the body > get rid of it. The same with bromides in flour, I > don't care, it doesn't belong in the body in any > amount, so I don't buy breads that contain > bromides, simple. I filter my water so I don't get > more fluoride and chlorine and other water born > chemicals. I do everything that I am able to do to > reduce the chemicals in my environment to reduce > the load and increase excretion. That's all we can > do.> > It would take very expensive equipment to measure > the off gassing of bromine and formaldehyde in a > new car, and or a home. I don't know about you but > I don't have that kind of money. > > Bethann> .... > > mmurra777 wrote > > I have not been asking for exact figures, just worst case scenarios. > > Why should I do anything without question and thought.....> > Bottom line. If you do not know what is in you how can you believe > > anything about what you are being told about what is being excreted out > > of you.> > > > MikeM> > > > P.S. My apologies to all for the long winded posts and my disturbing the > > status quo.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 , why did you mention Low Dose Naltrexone? Is there something wrong with it, or am I missing something? Beverly > > Enjoy yourself, please, whatever you do. Maybe look into Low Dose Naltrexone. ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Oh no. Just hinting he look into it for his cancer. But hinting subtly. I just thought if maybe he started reading about it he might be interested in trying it (o:. There is a special group for ldn and cancer. Worth a look. ~ > > > , why did you mention Low Dose Naltrexone? Is there something wrong with it, or am I missing something? > > Beverly > > > > > Enjoy yourself, please, whatever you do. Maybe look into Low Dose Naltrexone. ~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 That is so beautifully put. I am so sick of hearing, 'Well, ya have to die of something' . What happened to upholding human dignity. Anne Seals schrieb: > > It's not just about shortening your life if you do nothing -- it is > about losing your life to illness & disability long before you > actually die. There are people who live in nursing homes for 20 years > before they check out, with progressive debilitating illnesses that > ultimately rob them of every human pleasure. That's why I bother. I > don't care how long I live, but I am working so that I will live > fully till I die. > > Anne > > On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Gracia wrote: > > > we have to " bother " b/c the alternatives are worse. > > gracia > > > > lookonthebriteside wrote: > >> > >> That is exactly how I feel...Why bother... > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group http:// > > health./group/IodineOT/ > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e > <http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e> > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2703 - Release Date: 02/22/10 07:34:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Pepperidge Farm- many of their products list unbromated flour in ingredients. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 THANK YOU, DAVID. THAT TOUCHED ME. BEVERLY > > Its the quality of life that counts and quality is reflected in movement. No movement no life. > How and which way do you want to move. The motivation will shine through the movement. > Greedy and grasping will be tense and rigid. Loving and tender, soft and flowing. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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