Re: Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights / advice !

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s is different from adrenal insufficiency b/c addisons is

complete adrenal failure. I have adrenal insufficiency and take HC

5mg 4X a day and it makes all the difference between living and

existing. it is important to take HC throughout the day and my last

dose is at bedtime (midnight). internet lists like this one will

hopefully dispell the myths about HC. I have never had any " major side

effects " or side effects at all!

gracia

dutchdivco wrote:

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> Not to be picky, and I could be mistaken, But,.... I believe s

> disease is also called Adrenal insufficiency, and can be a life

> threatening illness. This is when, over the coarse of 24 hours, the

> Adrenals don't produce enough hormones. It is diagnosed, at least in

> part, with a 24 hr. urine collection test.i.e this is what most

> mainstrean Dr's test for, and are concerned about.If you have it, it

> is a lifelong condition, and requires (relatively) high doses of

> hydrocortisone.

> Adrenal fatigue is not a lifelong condition. It is where your Adrenals

> are fatigued; therefore they struggle in the a.m., and don't produce

> enough Cortisol early in the day, when you need it the most.

> Eventually they get 'up to speed', and may even produce too much in

> the p.m./evening. The total amount, over 24 hrs. may well be within

> normal limits, but the pt. feels tired, especially for the first 1/2

> of the day, and may have trouble sleeping. This can only be Dx'd with

> a Cortisol saliva test, which typically samples upon rising, and then

> every 4 hours thereafter, (a total of 4 times).Treatment consists of

> (relatively) low doses of Hydrocortisone, taken in divided doses for

> the 1st 1/2 of the day, along with supplements, iodine, etc.Over time,

> it is believed the adtrenals will heal themselves, and the HC can be

> tapered off.The 'major side effects of HC are all based on studies of

> people with Insufficiecy, taking high doses. There is no indication of

> major side effects for th ose taking lower doses.Mainstream Dr's, who

> base Thyroid DX on TSH tests, and insist on synthetis thyroid hormone,

> discount adrenal fatigue as a Diagnoses, and usually qon't treat for

> it.Jim

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> > HC = hydrocortisone... A prescription drug used in treatment of adrenal

> > exhaustion. Can have major side effects. Varying opinions exist

> > regarding safety and efficacy of its use. (see adrenal group).

> > IMO, it is ok in cases of true adrenal exhaustion ('s disease).

> >

> >

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Andrenal Cortex

How well animals cope with stress depends to a considerable degree on their ability to produce pituitary and andrenal hormones. If the diet has been inadequate in protein,Vit E, or the B Vitamins, RiboflavinB2, panthothetic acid or cholin sufficient pituitary hormones cannot be produced. Vitamin E, which is more concentrated in the pituitary gland than in any other part of the body, is thought to be particularly essential. It prevents both the pituitary and andrenals from being destroyed by oxygen.

The andrenal cortex is even more sensitive to dietary deprivation. A panthothetic deficiency causes the glands to shrivel and to become filled with blood and dead cells:

Cortisone and other hormones can no longer be produced and the many protective changes characteristic of stress do not occur. Even a slight lack of panthothetic acid causes a marked decrease in the quantity of hormones released. The pituitary,andrenal, and sexhormones are all made from cholesterol, but without panthothenic acid cholesterol cannot be replaced in the glandsafter once being used up.If generous amounts of panthothenic acid are given and the deficiency has not been severe andrenal hormones can be produced normally within 24 hours..

When the deprivation has been prolonged however a period of repair is necessary and receovery is slow and uncertain.

A slight deficiency of linoleic acid A,B2 or E can also limit hormone production and cause a degeneration of the cortex. Hence each is essential as panthothenic acid. The

andrenals of volunteers low in essenrtial fatty acids produced markedly fewer hormones than when the diet was adequate. Damage resulting from such deficiencies can be quickly rectified because the andrenals need these nutrients in small amounts only..

from Adele ; Lets Get Well. Available 2nd hand paperback on Amazon.com.

From: iloveroadrunners <iloveroadrunners@...>Subject: Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights / advice !iodine Date: Monday, 8 March, 2010, 15:49

HC = hydrocortisone. .. A prescription drug used in treatment of adrenalexhaustion. Can have major side effects. Varying opinions existregarding safety and efficacy of its use. (see adrenal group). IMO, it is ok in cases of true adrenal exhaustion ('s disease).>> >> >> > Hi. I'm new to the group and would appreciate any help/insights youall> > have.> >> > I will try to make a very long story short. In Jan '09 I experiencedmajor> > hormonal and thyroid

problems. Discovered multi-nodular goiter. Dr.said if> > I took iodine I would "blow my thyroid out" ! Did nothing to help sosee> > ya. New Doctor gave me dessicated thyroid despite normal bloodresults of> > TSH, T3, T4, etc. No antibodies. Also taking low dose BHRT for lowestrogen> > and a plethora of supplements incl. DHEA, Preg, Vit D, low doseiodine and> > way more. Improved on 1 grain Thy but feel nothing after gradualincrease> > to 3 grain.> >> > Now 1 year later. Still suffering low body temp and many hyposymptoms.> > Dr. not open to iodine, but he's best I can find in OK. Have to dothis on> > my own. Went down to 2 grain.. would like to get off entirely if Ican get> > my body temp up. Tried 25 mg. lugol's for week and 1 day 50 mg withsalt> > loading and ALL companion supps... side effects

tough incl. mildacne, rash> > neck, swollen neck, and worst of all Diarrhea. Also worseningdepression.> > Am allergic to shellfish, but know that does not mean iodine.> >> > I may have mild adrenal fatigue, but I don't think they are shot.Can't> > afford saliva testing - Dr. willing - but not covered insurance.Really not> > willing to take HC anyway.. at this point.> >> > Have taken supplements for years and lead active, healthy lifestyle,diet.> >> > Am taking 2 days off lugol's and will try again. Any advice?> > How long til' the side effects are bearable? Has anyone had success> > shrinking goiter..and/ or getting off thy. meds? Should I salt loadmore> > than once a day?> >> > Thanks much..> > > >> >>

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I don't agree with that. I have used HC safely for my adrenal fatigue. It is great for stress dosing when you are getting sick too. YOu need to read the book by Jeffries called The Safe and Effective Uses of Cortisone. Many of my friends use it as well. The most "side effects" I have seen is weight gain. But that does not happen to all people either. It is a blessing for me when anxiety and the blues come on due to adrenal fatigue.

Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights / advice !

HC = hydrocortisone... A prescription drug used in treatment of adrenalexhaustion. Can have major side effects. Varying opinions existregarding safety and efficacy of its use. (see adrenal group). IMO, it is ok in cases of true adrenal exhaustion ('s disease).>> >> >> > Hi. I'm new to the group and would appreciate any help/insights youall> > have.> >> > I will try to make a very long story short. In Jan '09 I experiencedmajor> > hormonal and thyroid problems. Discovered multi-nodular goiter. Dr.said if> > I took iodine I would "blow my thyroid out" ! Did nothing to help sosee> > ya. New Doctor gave me dessicated thyroid despite normal bloodresults of> > TSH, T3, T4, etc. No antibodies. Also taking low dose BHRT for lowestrogen> > and a plethora of supplements incl. DHEA, Preg, Vit D, low doseiodine and> > way more. Improved on 1 grain Thy but feel nothing after gradualincrease> > to 3 grain.> >> > Now 1 year later. Still suffering low body temp and many hyposymptoms.> > Dr. not open to iodine, but he's best I can find in OK. Have to dothis on> > my own. Went down to 2 grain.. would like to get off entirely if Ican get> > my body temp up. Tried 25 mg. lugol's for week and 1 day 50 mg withsalt> > loading and ALL companion supps... side effects tough incl. mildacne, rash> > neck, swollen neck, and worst of all Diarrhea. Also worseningdepression.> > Am allergic to shellfish, but know that does not mean iodine.> >> > I may have mild adrenal fatigue, but I don't think they are shot.Can't> > afford saliva testing - Dr. willing - but not covered insurance.Really not> > willing to take HC anyway.. at this point.> >> > Have taken supplements for years and lead active, healthy lifestyle,diet.> >> > Am taking 2 days off lugol's and will try again. Any advice?> > How long til' the side effects are bearable? Has anyone had success> > shrinking goiter..and/or getting off thy. meds? Should I salt loadmore> > than once a day?> >> > Thanks much..> > > >> >> >>

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Could you explain how you’ve been doing this?  Our doctor agrees

that my husband has some adrenal issues but hasn’t recommended anything beyond

Drenamin.  If I can use diet to help, I’d do it.  I just don’t know what kind

of diet to use.

We were already supplementing iodine and he agreed that we

should continue – but no more than 30 mg/day.

How long have you been at it?  What changes have you noticed? 

How quickly did you notice them?  Most importantly, probably, is how bad were

your adrenals when you started?

Pamela

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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights

/ advice !

Shoot, I have been using

iodine and diet to to bring back my adrenals. So far so good.

from Illinois

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Gluten free is the one to try out. from IllinoisFrom: Pamela Vasquez <prov31mom23@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 6:37:39 PMSubject: RE: Re: New to group -

appreciate your help / insights / advice !

Could you explain how you’ve been doing this? Our doctor agrees

that my husband has some adrenal issues but hasn’t recommended anything beyond

Drenamin. If I can use diet to help, I’d do it. I just don’t know what kind

of diet to use. We were already supplementing iodine and he agreed that we

should continue – but no more than 30 mg/day. How long have you been at it? What changes have you noticed?

How quickly did you notice them? Most importantly, probably, is how bad were

your adrenals when you started? Pamela

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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 PM

iodinegroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights

/ advice !

Shoot, I have been using

iodine and diet to to bring back my adrenals. So far so good.

from Illinois

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Show's how much they know. It doesn't weaken the immune system if you need it. *rolling eyes* I take more when I am getting sick.

Steph

Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights / advice !

Here's the link for drugs.com and the side effects/risks for hydrocortisone...

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/cortef.html

> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi. I'm new to the group and would appreciate any help/insights> you> > all> > > > have.> > > >> > > > I will try to make a very long story short. In Jan '09 I> experienced> > major> > > > hormonal and thyroid problems. Discovered multi-nodular goiter.> Dr.> > said if> > > > I took iodine I would "blow my thyroid out" ! Did nothing to help> so> > see> > > > ya. New Doctor gave me dessicated thyroid despite normal blood> > results of> > > > TSH, T3, T4, etc. No antibodies. Also taking low dose BHRT for low> > estrogen> > > > and a plethora of supplements incl. DHEA, Preg, Vit D, low dose> > iodine and> > > > way more. Improved on 1 grain Thy but feel nothing after gradual> > increase> > > > to 3 grain.> > > >> > > > Now 1 year later. Still suffering low body temp and many hypo> > symptoms.> > > > Dr. not open to iodine, but he's best I can f! ind in O K. Have to do> > this on> > > > my own. Went down to 2 grain.. would like to get off entirely if I> > can get> > > > my body temp up. Tried 25 mg. lugol's for week and 1 day 50 mg> with> > salt> > > > loading and ALL companion supps... side effects tough incl. mild> > acne, rash> > > > neck, swollen neck, and worst of all Diarrhea. Also worsening> > depression.> > > > Am allergic to shellfish, but know that does not mean iodine.> > > >> > > > I may have mild adrenal fatigue, but I don't think they are shot.> > Can't> > > > afford saliva testing - Dr. willing - but not covered insurance.> > Really not> > > > willing to take HC anyway.. at this point.> > > >> > > > Have taken supplements for years and lead active, healthy> lifestyle,> > diet.> > > >> > > > Am taking 2 days off lugol's and will try again. Any advice?> > > > How long til' the side effects are bearable? Has anyone had> success> > > > shrinking goiter..and/or getting off thy. meds? Should I salt load> > more> > > > than once a day?> > > >> > > > Thanks much..> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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I have been sorely disappointed with the info at drugs.com

--V

At 07:12 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote:

>Show's how much they know. It doesn't weaken the immune system if you

>need it. *rolling eyes* I take more when I am getting sick.

>

>Steph

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> Re: New to group - appreciate your help / insights /

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>Here's the link for drugs.com and the side effects/risks for hydrocortisone...

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><http://www.drugs.com/mtm/cortef.html>http://www.drugs.com/mtm/cortef.html

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> > Can you elaborate on what the " risk " is in HC?

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> > Steph

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