Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

[Guest guest]

Try stopping an see if your BP goes back down. It isn't a known issue.

Steph

Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should no longer use iodine?

[Guest guest]

Do you take your BP every day? I know that there are foods (like celery) that are supposed to lower your BP, & Mercola had an article about something artificial (can't remember -- something I don't eat) that can raise it, so if the blip is just one or two days, it doesn't have to be the iodine. Since this is not a known issue, you might want to research that a bit?AnneOn Oct 20, 2010, at 5:15 PM, available7772001 wrote: I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should no longer use iodine?

[Guest guest]

Are you salt loading? that can cause high b/p. Drink lots and lots of water.

Konstantine

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 5:54:56 PMSubject: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Try stopping an see if your BP goes back down. It isn't a known issue.

Steph

Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should no longer use iodine?

[Guest guest]



Unrefined salt does NOT cause high BP.

Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should no longer use iodine?

[Guest guest]

Absolutely does not cause high BP. In fact, unrefined salt brings people's

BP down. Please learn about unrefined salt. It is *REFINED* salt that

causes illness, not UNrefined.

http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

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>Unrefined salt does NOT cause high BP.

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>I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80

>to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should

>no longer use iodine?

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ on this. It absolutely did cause my b/p to increase soon after I had the Celtic Salt. Especially diastolic. It did get better a few hours later, after I drank lots and lots of water. I'm just expressing what I know to be true for me.

Konstantine

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 8:07:24 PMSubject: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Absolutely does not cause high BP. In fact, unrefined salt brings people's BP down. Please learn about unrefined salt. It is *REFINED* salt that causes illness, not UNrefined.http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp-->Unrefined salt does NOT cause high BP.>>>>>> Iodine can cause high blood pressure?>>>>I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 >to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this

mean I should >no longer use iodine?>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Well, after I dug deep into the bowels of the internet I found this info worth a look:

http://caloriecount.about.com/sea-salt-raise-blood-pressure-like-q11368

talks about "salt sensitive" people (guess that would be me) and low potassium intake.

Konstantine

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 8:07:24 PMSubject: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Absolutely does not cause high BP. In fact, unrefined salt brings people's BP down. Please learn about unrefined salt. It is *REFINED* salt that causes illness, not UNrefined.http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp-->Unrefined salt does NOT cause high BP.>>>>>> Iodine can cause high blood pressure?>>>>I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80 >to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this

mean I should >no longer use iodine?>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

It probably is potassium in your case or whatever HOWEVER that is not a

credible source about unrefined sea salt. They are dismissing the balanced

minerals and they probably have no idea that ocean water was used for

transfusions in World War II (and other wars) when they ran out of blood.

And the reason for that is that ocean water (and unrefined sea salt) has

the same mineral profile as our blood (including sodium). So if a person

is careful and only eats unrefined sea salt, they will never have a mineral

imbalance due to salt, and they will get all the health benefits we discuss

here.

And btw, it's a flat out falsehood that refined salt and unrefined salt

have the same sodium content-- it's only the " same " if you disregard the

trace minerals, which that source is doing. Refined salt has about 40%

sodium, and unrefined has about 33% sodium. That 7% is all the difference,

and is composed of the trace minerals that make unrefined salt have the

same mineral profile as our blood.

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>Well, after I dug deep into the bowels of the internet I found this info

>worth a look:

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><http://caloriecount.about.com/sea-salt-raise-blood-pressure-like-q11368>http:/\

/caloriecount.about.com/sea-salt-raise-blood-pressure-like-q11368

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>talks about " salt sensitive " people (guess that would be me) and low

>potassium intake.

> Konstantine

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>From: Baker <vbaker@...>

>iodine

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>Absolutely does not cause high BP. In fact, unrefined salt brings people's

>BP down. Please learn about unrefined salt. It is *REFINED* salt that

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> >to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should

> >no longer use iodine?

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[Guest guest]

....it could just be the state of "flux" my body is in right now, who knows! I do believe that unrefined salt is essential.

Konstantine

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 9:41:06 PMSubject: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

It probably is potassium in your case or whatever HOWEVER that is not a credible source about unrefined sea salt. They are dismissing the balanced minerals and they probably have no idea that ocean water was used for transfusions in World War II (and other wars) when they ran out of blood. And the reason for that is that ocean water (and unrefined sea salt) has the same mineral profile as our blood (including sodium). So if a person is careful and only eats unrefined sea salt, they will never have a mineral imbalance due to salt, and they will get all the health benefits we discuss here.And btw, it's a flat out falsehood that refined salt and unrefined salt have the same sodium content-- it's only the "same" if you disregard the trace minerals, which that source is doing. Refined salt has about 40% sodium, and unrefined has about 33% sodium. That 7% is all the difference, and is composed of the

trace minerals that make unrefined salt have the same mineral profile as our blood.-->Well, after I dug deep into the bowels of the internet I found this info >worth a look:>><http://caloriecount.about.com/sea-salt-raise-blood-pressure-like-q11368>http://caloriecount.about.com/sea-salt-raise-blood-pressure-like-q11368>>talks about "salt sensitive" people (guess that would be me) and low >potassium intake.> Konstantine>>>>From: Baker <vbaker@...>>iodine >Sent:

Thu, October 21, 2010 8:07:24 PM>Subject: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?>>>>Absolutely does not cause high BP. In fact, unrefined salt brings people's>BP down. Please learn about unrefined salt. It is *REFINED* salt that>causes illness, not UNrefined.>http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp>>-->> >Unrefined salt does NOT cause high BP.> >> >> >> >> >> > Iodine can cause high blood pressure?> >> >> >> >I have been on 25 Mg Iodoral for only three days. My BP went from 130/80> >to 170/85. Why does this happen? Is it unusual and does this mean I should> >no longer use iodine?> >>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~>--A.J. Muste>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Great post Gail - thanks!

Steph

Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Albert,

Low potassium will cause increased blood pressure. If indeed your potassium is low, then that means your sodium is already high. Salt in the body does help the body retain water, (that is purposefully one of it's functions) and that extra water increases your blood VOLUME. Increased blood volume will put increased pressure on veins, just as more water volume in a water balloon will put increased pressure on the balloon wall.

Imbalances in electrolytes (sodium /potassium) are most commonly caused by Aldosterone malfunction and not dietary. For some reason your body could be putting out too much aldosterone. This will cause low potassium and high sodium no matter what you are ingesting of those minerals. There are other body functions that come into play to adjust for minor dietary mineral imbalances.

If you are taking any kind of corticosteriod, and you are salt loading while on the Iodine, the corticosteriod will cause you to retain more salt and water.

Other reasons for low potassium could be diuretics, prednisone or cortisol replacement, insulin, lithium, ace inhibitors, calcium channel blockers, nsaids, heparin, and propranolol. Low magnesium is seen and may be a symptom of, instead of a cause.

Getting back to aldosterone malfunction, HYPERaldosteronism (too much aldosterone) could have these symptoms: low potassium/high sodium, headaches, muscle weakness, renal problems, constipation, excess thirst, edema, passing larger qty's of urine, pins and needles, high blood sugar, high blood volume, high blood pressure, low serum renin, fatigue, low back, hip and shoulder pain, nausea.

HYPOaldosteronism (not enough aldosterone)causes the opposite: low sodium/high potassium, loose stool, dehydration, infrequent urine, low blood pressure, low blood volume, low blood sugar, high serum renin, plus the same fatigue , muscle pains, and nausea, dizzy/faint, uncoordination, eventually blurred vision due to low blood pressure.

Serum tests of electrolytes and glucose can show normal when cell levels are not.

Is there a possibility you are trying to treat thyroid symptoms with iodine when you are having adrenal issues?

When my daughter who has adrenal issues was falsely treated for LYME with antibiotics, her adrenal symptoms progressed immediately to blood volume/pressure issues, which helped me to rule out LYME and narrow to adrenals.

Just some ideas here......

[Guest guest]

Very well done, thank you!

Konstantine

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 4:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Great post Gail - thanks!

Steph

Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

Albert,

Low potassium will cause increased blood pressure. If indeed your potassium is low, then that means your sodium is already high. Salt in the body does help the body retain water, (that is purposefully one of it's functions) and that extra water increases your blood VOLUME. Increased blood volume will put increased pressure on veins, just as more water volume in a water balloon will put increased pressure on the balloon wall.

Imbalances in electrolytes (sodium /potassium) are most commonly caused by Aldosterone malfunction and not dietary. For some reason your body could be putting out too much aldosterone. This will cause low potassium and high sodium no matter what you are ingesting of those minerals. There are other body functions that come into play to adjust for minor dietary mineral imbalances.

If you are taking any kind of corticosteriod, and you are salt loading while on the Iodine, the corticosteriod will cause you to retain more salt and water.

Other reasons for low potassium could be diuretics, prednisone or cortisol replacement, insulin, lithium, ace inhibitors, calcium channel blockers, nsaids, heparin, and propranolol. Low magnesium is seen and may be a symptom of, instead of a cause.

Getting back to aldosterone malfunction, HYPERaldosteronism (too much aldosterone) could have these symptoms: low potassium/high sodium, headaches, muscle weakness, renal problems, constipation, excess thirst, edema, passing larger qty's of urine, pins and needles, high blood sugar, high blood volume, high blood pressure, low serum renin, fatigue, low back, hip and shoulder pain, nausea.

HYPOaldosteronism (not enough aldosterone)causes the opposite: low sodium/high potassium, loose stool, dehydration, infrequent urine, low blood pressure, low blood volume, low blood sugar, high serum renin, plus the same fatigue , muscle pains, and nausea, dizzy/faint, uncoordination, eventually blurred vision due to low blood pressure.

Serum tests of electrolytes and glucose can show normal when cell levels are not.

Is there a possibility you are trying to treat thyroid symptoms with iodine when you are having adrenal issues?

When my daughter who has adrenal issues was falsely treated for LYME with antibiotics, her adrenal symptoms progressed immediately to blood volume/pressure issues, which helped me to rule out LYME and narrow to adrenals.

Just some ideas here......

[Guest guest]

I, too, turn BEET RED whenever I get hot. It's embarrassing! Everyone else is

" misting " while I'm stuck with a flaming red face as I very rarely break any

kind of a sweat. I think this might have something to do with adrenal problems

but I'm not sure. Have you had your adrenals tested with a saliva test?

I remember the Wrongdiagnosis.com web site had some links when I searched on

" red face. " I'm afraid is it was too complex for me to figure out at the time.

I'm currently taking Cortef for my adrenals. They went too far down for natural

support to work for me.

Good luck! You're not alone.

> >

> > Very well done, thank you!

> >  

> > Konstantine

> >

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> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@>

> > iodine

> > Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 4:31:31 AM

> > Subject: Re: Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

> >

> >  

> > Great post Gail - thanks!

> >  

> > Steph

> >  

> >

> > Re: Iodine can cause high blood pressure?

> > >

> > > 

> > >Albert,

> > > 

> > >Low potassium will cause increased blood pressure. If indeed your potassium

is

> > >low, then that means your sodium is already high. Salt in the body does

help the

> > >body retain water, (that is purposefully one of it's functions) and that

extra

> > >water increases your blood VOLUME. Increased blood volume will put

increased

> > >pressure on veins, just as more water volume in a water balloon will put

> > >increased pressure on the balloon wall.   

> > > 

> > > 

> > >Imbalances in electrolytes (sodium /potassium) are most

commonly caused by

> > >Aldosterone malfunction and not dietary. For some reason your body could be

> > >putting out too much aldosterone. This will cause low potassium and high

sodium

> > >no matter what you are ingesting of those minerals. There are other body

> > >functions that come into play to adjust for minor dietary mineral

imbalances. 

> > >

> > > If you are taking any kind of corticosteriod, and you are salt loading

while on

> > >the Iodine, the corticosteriod will cause you to retain more salt and

water.

> > > 

> > >Other reasons for low potassium could be diuretics, prednisone or cortisol

> > >replacement, insulin, lithium, ace inhibitors, calcium channel blockers,

nsaids,

> > >heparin,  and propranolol. Low magnesium is seen and may be a symptom of,

> > >instead of a cause.

> > > 

> > >Getting back to aldosterone malfunction, HYPERaldosteronism (too much

> > >aldosterone) could have these symptoms: low potassium/high sodium,

 headaches,

> > >muscle weakness, renal problems, constipation, excess thirst, edema,

passing

> > >larger qty's of urine, pins and needles, high blood sugar, high blood

volume,

> > >high blood pressure,  low serum renin, fatigue, low back, hip and shoulder

pain,

> > >nausea.

> > > 

> > >HYPOaldosteronism (not enough aldosterone)causes the opposite: low

sodium/high

> > >potassium, loose stool, dehydration, infrequent urine, low blood pressure,

low

> > >blood volume, low blood sugar, high serum renin, plus the same fatigue ,

muscle

> > >pains, and nausea, dizzy/faint, uncoordination, eventually blurred vision

due to

> > >low blood pressure.

> > > 

> > >Serum tests of electrolytes and glucose can show normal when cell levels

are

> > >not.

> > > 

> > > Is there a possibility you are trying to treat thyroid symptoms with

> > >iodine when you are having adrenal issues?

> > > 

> > >When my daughter who has adrenal issues was falsely treated for LYME with

> > >antibiotics, her adrenal symptoms progressed immediately to blood

> > >volume/pressure issues,  which helped me to rule out LYME and narrow to

> > >adrenals.   

> > > 

> > >Just some ideas here......

> > >

> > > 

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Also a classic sign of hyper adrenals. Many Cushings patients have a red, and/or full round face.

They may also have a hump on the back of the neck between the shoulders, a larger thicker abdomen with thin arms and legs, will be prone to diabetes, and could have very dark purple stretch marks. Some have inclinations to infected acne or lesions on the back, chest, and arms, and some will be affected with impotence.

One thing I forgot to mention also is inhalers for lung issues can also bring on Cushings syndrome. In fact I have read at least one medical paper on adrenal disease that claimed that when people have lung issues like asthma, adrenals should always be suspect.

[Guest guest]

Gail,

I'm not sure I understand what "hyper" adrenals are. As far as I

know, my adrenals were wasted during decades of chronic fatigue

syndrome and are only just now healing. I have none of the symptoms

you mention below -- except the "buffalo hump" -- which appeared

about 15 years into the CFS.

I have never been able to figure out why I have the hump of what, if

any, hope I have getting rid of it. Do you have any further info

for me, or can you direct my research in a way that might be

helpful?

Thanks,

On 10/26/2010 12:53 AM, Gail Buchmann wrote:

Also a classic

sign of hyper adrenals. Many Cushings patients have a

red, and/or full round face.

They may also have a hump

on the back of the neck between the shoulders, a larger

thicker abdomen with thin arms and legs, will be prone

to diabetes, and could have very dark purple stretch

marks. Some have inclinations to infected acne or

lesions on the back, chest, and arms, and some will be

affected with impotence.

One thing I forgot to

mention also is inhalers for lung issues can also bring

on Cushings syndrome. In fact I have read at least one

medical paper on adrenal disease that claimed that when

people have lung issues like asthma, adrenals should

always be suspect.

[Guest guest]

http://www.cushings-help.com/buffalo_hump.htm

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:29 PM, West <clairewest@...> wrote:

 

Gail,I'm not sure I understand what " hyper " adrenals are.  As far as I know, my adrenals were wasted during decades of chronic fatigue syndrome and are only just now healing.  I have none of the symptoms you mention below -- except the " buffalo hump " -- which appeared about 15 years into the CFS.

I have never been able to figure out why I have the hump of what, if any, hope I have getting rid of it.  Do you have any further info for me, or can you direct my research in a way that might be helpful?Thanks,

  On 10/26/2010 12:53 AM, Gail Buchmann wrote:  

Also a classic sign of hyper adrenals. Many Cushings patients have a red, and/or full round face.

 

They may also have a hump on the back of the neck between the shoulders, a larger thicker abdomen with thin arms and legs, will be prone to diabetes, and could have very dark purple stretch marks. Some have inclinations to infected acne or lesions on the back, chest, and arms, and some will be affected with impotence.

 

One thing I forgot to mention also is inhalers for lung issues can also bring on Cushings syndrome. In fact I have read at least one medical paper on adrenal disease that claimed that when people have lung issues like asthma, adrenals should always be suspect.

[Guest guest]

Ido,

Thanks for link, but I'm afraid it leads me down the same blind

alley of no answers I've been before. 

 

http://www.cushings-help.com/buffalo_hump.htm

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:29 PM,

West <clairewest@...>

wrote:

 

Gail,

I'm not sure I understand what "hyper"

adrenals are.  As far as I know, my adrenals

were wasted during decades of chronic fatigue

syndrome and are only just now healing.  I

have none of the symptoms you mention below --

except the "buffalo hump" -- which appeared

about 15 years into the CFS.

I have never been able to figure out why I

have the hump of what, if any, hope I have

getting rid of it.  Do you have any further

info for me, or can you direct my research in

a way that might be helpful?

Thanks,

  On 10/26/2010 12:53 AM, Gail Buchmann wrote:

 

Also a classic

sign of hyper adrenals. Many Cushings

patients have a red, and/or full round

face.

 

They may

also have a hump on the back of the neck

between the shoulders, a larger thicker

abdomen with thin arms and legs, will be

prone to diabetes, and could have very

dark purple stretch marks. Some have

inclinations to infected acne or lesions

on the back, chest, and arms, and some

will be affected with impotence.

 

One thing I

forgot to mention also is inhalers for

lung issues can also bring on Cushings

syndrome. In fact I have read at least

one medical paper on adrenal disease

that claimed that when people have lung

issues like asthma, adrenals should

always be suspect.

[Guest guest]

If one would consider cushings with a symptom of red face, I think they would need to look at more of the overall symptoms to point that way.

I also get red flushes in hot conditions and do not sweat. I have very dry skin.

I don't believe I have adrenal issues (at least not severe ones) but I believe I have thyroid issues and dehydration is definitely a factor. Any doctor would most likely call my red face cia. However for me I believe that the term "cia" simply explains the symptoms and behavior of the syndrome, and not the root cause. A close look reveals tiny broken capillaries on my face, close to the skin's surface. A trigger will dilate them and they fill with blood, causing the warm flushed face. Laser therapy can remove those capillaries but a laser center would tell you you must keep SUN off your face or they would regrow. My limited research on this years ago made me question underlying flavinoid / fatty acid deficiency or vit D somehow playing a role, since my "rosacea" did not show until after I had some chronic sun exposure. It is still a mystery for me but I do avoid sun as it feels like my skin "burns" even in low sun exposure. However very curious to me was that the hot flushing and feeling of skin burning and intolerance to heat in general, went away 2 years ago when I went on a semi - fast. At the time I drank copious amounts of water, cut all soda and sweets, and reduced food intake drastically. NO DOUBT it affected my thyroid as I started to become severely cold in regular to cool temps (when i was normally the hottest one in the room.) Summer hit and 95 degree weather became a breeze, felt like 70, and i could enjoy it with no "burning" feeling. (also lost 60lbs). Since then I have stopped fasting, reduced water intake, returned bad food choices and my previous distain for sun and heat has returned...along with the weight. BUMMER.

[Guest guest]

Hyper meaning over producing of hormones.

You could have the hump from Cushings Syndrome and it would be called buffalo hump. If I remember correctly it is formed by adipose fat and it is said that once the hyper condition is rectified it will go away. If you have spent years on steroid replacement for hypo adrenals, the steroids can cause you to swing the other way, toward Cushings.

Even eye drops with steroids in them can cause a swing to cushings:

http://www.answers.com/topic/cushing-s-syndrome

Statins lower cholesterol , and adrenals use cholesterol. Contraceptives (estrogens ) affect adrenals too.

It could also be a Dowagers Hump. This is said to be caused by fractures in the vertebrae caused by osteoporosis. You could look up "surgical options for Dowagers hump".

Interesting to note is that Cushings Syndrome can directly affect kidney function. I know from reading that a failing kidney cannot actuate vit D . Osteoporosis is on the list of symptoms for Cushings syndrome. This is why I have stated in some of my posts that one should consider malfunctioning organs and disease processes if low vit D levels are present. Because while adding vit D supps would bring up D levels (in some), it is really masking a bigger issue of why a persons D is low to begin with. There is so much D in our food now that IMO no one should have low D levels just by "not enough" ingested or sun on the skin. Magnesium tends to be low in some Cushings patients which can also attribute to low bone density as magnesium is needed for calcium absorption.

It's all quite in depth and I am still trying to get my head around it all!

[Guest guest]

Gail-- Vitamin D supplements added to foods are virtually always the D2

form, not the D3 form, and the D2 form is useless. Plus we need much more

than the RDA. People are actively short of D and not because of organ

failure-- it's because of sedentary lifestyles and fear of the sun.

--

>Hyper meaning over producing of hormones.

>

>You could have the hump from Cushings Syndrome and it would be called

>buffalo hump. If I remember correctly it is formed by adipose fat and it

>is said that once the hyper condition is rectified it will go away. If you

>have spent years on steroid replacement for hypo adrenals, the steroids

>can cause you to swing the other way, toward Cushings.

>

>Even eye drops with steroids in them can cause a swing to cushings:

><http://www.answers.com/topic/cushing-s-syndrome>http://www.answers.com/topic/c\

ushing-s-syndrome

>Statins lower cholesterol , and adrenals use cholesterol. Contraceptives

>(estrogens ) affect adrenals too.

>

>It could also be a Dowagers Hump. This is said to be caused by fractures

>in the vertebrae caused by osteoporosis. You could look up " surgical

>options for Dowagers hump " .

>

>Interesting to note is that Cushings Syndrome can directly affect kidney

>function. I know from reading that a failing kidney cannot actuate vit D

>. Osteoporosis is on the list of symptoms for Cushings syndrome. This is

>why I have stated in some of my posts that one should consider

>malfunctioning organs and disease processes if low vit D levels are

>present. Because while adding vit D supps would bring up D levels (in

>some), it is really masking a bigger issue of why a persons D is low to

>begin with. There is so much D in our food now that IMO no one should

>have low D levels just by " not enough " ingested or sun on the skin.

>Magnesium tends to be low in some Cushings patients which can also

>attribute to low bone density as magnesium is needed for calcium absorption.

>It's all quite in depth and I am still trying to get my head around it all!

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Thank you for taking the time to write in length and depth. I'm

sorry I didn't write more -- and more clearly -- in my original

question.

When I did my research originally, I looked at Cushings and decided

that was an unlikely possibility. It wasn't just that the hump was

the only symptom that fit, but it was a symptom that appeared 15

years after the onset of CFS -- which is to say 15 years after any

over-production of cortisol or other hormones would have turned very much hypO.

< If you have spent years on steroid replacement for hypo

adrenals, the steroids can cause you to swing the other way,

toward Cushings.>

I never did take any drugs, and I have no osteoporosis -- not then

and not in the last 15 years since the hump appeared. In the

last eight or so years I've been on a very healing diet (including

a huge amount of vit D in a raw cod liver oil) and have seen

near-miraculous changes toward health (and even youth!) but the

lump remains.

One thing more I should mention, is that whenever I see pictures

of other people's lumps, they look like a globs of fat with a

somewhat irregular and spreading surface. My own is a quite

"concrete" -- a firm round half-ball with a smooth surface

(though it can be moved about slightly). So perhaps it really is

a different "animal." It's not a cosmetic problem for me, hidden

as it is by hair and clothing, but I consider it a marker of

ill-health and, as such, would like to see it gone

It's all quite in depth and

I am still trying to get my head around it all!

Yes, to paraphrase a certain Russian writer (Tolstoy?) on marriage,

all healthy bodies are pretty much alike, but the unhealthy ones

tend to go wrong in complicated ways.

Again, though, I do appreciate your response.

[Guest guest]

If you wanted to get to the bottom of what is under there, an xray is an idea. It would tell you if it is fractured bone or adipose tissue.