Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

[Guest guest]

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based

Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based

Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and

enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and

it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that

does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support,

and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable

I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on

the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or

serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.

Bethann

On 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

I just learned two things of value.

When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH

(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functions

more efficiently if you have balanced PH.

I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,

because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.

Although now I know you can take supplements for that which

for me would be so much easier.

(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effort

to heal my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will

also give me better PH balance.)

On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease,

lactase, & lipase?

I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has

one.

This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my

iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective

detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.

And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone from

illnessisoptional.com

1-888-794-4325

you pay $61.80 per container whereas on line

you pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.

Be Well,

Ali

[Guest guest]

Thank you, that is all good to know.-AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote: I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effort to heal my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

There is some controversy over whether soil based organisms are good. I have a couple of doc friends that advise against them.

Also on the Ultra Clear - I have not heard that you need a balanced pH for it to be effective. I have taken it for many years w/o worry. They do have a product called Ultra Clear Plus pH which I found very good in balancing my pH.

Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

Thank you, that is all good to know.

-Ali

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

The problem with SBO's is that they contain strains of bacteria that don't exist in the human tract. LinnOn Jun 8, 2010, at 5:58 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

There is some controversy over whether soil based organisms are good. I have a couple of doc friends that advise against them.

Also on the Ultra Clear - I have not heard that you need a balanced pH for it to be effective. I have taken it for many years w/o worry. They do have a product called Ultra Clear Plus pH which I found very good in balancing my pH.

Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

Thank you, that is all good to know.

-Ali

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

Thank you Steph.I meant that " your kidney functions more efficiently if you have balanced PH."Not that Ultra clear does.I meant that it was useful to learn that I could have a chance at detoxing more efficientlyif my PH were balanced, and then I wouldn't need, possibly, to spend $100 pluson liver detox products each month.Good to know about the soil nutrients.Can you suggest a good enzyme?-AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 3:58 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:There is some controversy over whether soil based organisms are good. I have a couple of doc friends that advise against them. Also on the Ultra Clear - I have not heard that you need a balanced pH for it to be effective. I have taken it for many years w/o worry. They do have a product called Ultra Clear Plus pH which I found very good in balancing my pH. Re: Detox/Ultra Clear Thank you, that is all good to know.-AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote: I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

That's what I was thinking but didn't want to put that until I could confirm what I was remembering.

Steph

Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

Thank you, that is all good to know.

-Ali

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase or serrazymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

Digestive enzyme or systemic?

Steph

Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

Thank you, that is all good to know.

-Ali

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase ! or serra zymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

Digestive. What are systemic?AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 4:49 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Digestive enzyme or systemic? Steph Re: Detox/Ultra Clear Thank you, that is all good to know.-AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase ! or serra zymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote: I just learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

I have taken Vitalzyme

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=WU-1003 & sourceType=cs & source=FG & cm_mmc=Shopping%20Engines-_-googleproduct-_-Vitalzym%20-%20360%20Liquid%20Gel%20Capsules%20-%20Enzymes-_-WU-1003 & ci_src=14110944 & ci_sku=WU-1003

Wobenzyme is also good

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=WM-1003

This page describes the benefits of enzymes http://www.healthstores.com/wobenzym/the_wobenzyme_story.htm

Digestive enzymes....

This is what my doctor has http://www.chm-natural-supplements.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=23 & products_id=257

and

http://www.chm-natural-supplements.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=19 & products_id=624

Steph

Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

Thank you, that is all good to know.

-Ali

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:

Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase ! or serra zymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote:

! I jus t learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

Thank you.Do you juice?andDo you get the Vitamin Research monthly publication?Last month was a great article about weight loss.This month is a great article about gut healing.I would like to know as much as I can about gut healing as it has always been a neglected area for me,and my belly has been swollen since my teens.I think if healed it would ultimately help me to detox better.All this stuff is interrelated.AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 7:01 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:I have taken Vitalzymehttp://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=WU-1003 & sourceType=cs & source=FG & cm_mmc=Shopping%20Engines-_-googleproduct-_-Vitalzym%20-%20360%20Liquid%20Gel%20Capsules%20-%20Enzymes-_-WU-1003 & ci_src=14110944 & ci_sku=WU-1003 Wobenzyme is also goodhttp://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=WM-1003 This page describes the benefits of enzymes http://www.healthstores.com/wobenzym/the_wobenzyme_story.htm Digestive enzymes.... This is what my doctor has http://www.chm-natural-supplements.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=23 & products_id=257 and http://www.chm-natural-supplements.com/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=19 & products_id=624 Steph ----- Original Message -----From: Alison Trotta-Marshalliodine Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Detox/Ultra Clear Digestive. What are systemic?AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 4:49 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Digestive enzyme or systemic? Steph Re: Detox/Ultra Clear Thank you, that is all good to know.-AliOn Jun 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Yard Bird wrote:Swanson's Ultra Full-Spectrum N-Zimes and also their Soil Based Organisms are very good at a reasonable price. I like the Soil Based Organisms especially because it has probiotics, trace minerals and enzymes all together in one capsule. I've used them for a while now and it's an excellent product. But they have an enzyme that is cheaper that does a great job too. Their Liver Essentials has great liver support, and works wonders. Their enzyme products have been the most reasonable I can find for the amount and types of ingredients. I keep an eye on the BOGO page so I can catch the enzymes on sale. Serrapeptase ! or serra zymes may help as well, it's a strong protease.BethannOn 6/8/2010 12:18 PM, A. wrote: !I jus t learned two things of value.When reading the description of Metagenics UltraClear PH(for liver/kidney detox) it says that your kidney functionsmore efficiently if you have balanced PH.I did not know that. Balancing my PH always felt like a drag,because I knew I had to somehow get more veg.'s in my diet.Although now I know you can take supplements for that which for me would be so much easier.(And I also plan to buy a new juicer to have more enzymes in an effo! rt to he al my leaky gut & forever swollen gut. That too, I assume will also give me better PH balance.)On that note, can anyone recommend a good enzyme that has protease, lactase, & lipase?I also need a rec. for a good PH balancing supplement, if anyone has one.This all stems from my forever clogged liver whenever I increase my iodine dose. Which I am trying to fix, so I can be a more effective detoxer. And in the end would spend less on liver cleanse products.And on a final note, if you order Ultra Clear by phone fromillnessisoptional.com1-888-794-4325you pay $61.80 per container whereas on lineyou pay $77 per container. That is a big difference.Be Well,Ali

[Guest guest]

I see an allergy doc very regularly for shots and checked the other day about

gluten/wheat allergy testing .

Found out I was tested in 2004 and was found to be negative Do most people do

it by trial and error instead of official testing? I am going to see the doc at

the end of the month and talk to them again about it. Could I have developed

the allergy in the last few years?

Thanks again for all the help!

Michele (NoCal)

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> I feel better being gluten free too. I used to have bad heartburn too. No

longer. I also had a very gassy gut. That's gone too.

>

> Steph

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> Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

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> Swollen belly and pain is one symptom of celiac disease or gluten

intolerance. It goes away when a person is 100% gluten free. You might want to

experiment by going gluten free for 2 weeks and see if it makes a difference.

If it does and you want to be tested for it, go right away as the antibody

titers drop quickly when a person goes gluten free, yielding negative results.

And Testing is about 70% accurate. But the final answer is if you feel better

being gluten free. I no longer have GERD and heartburn now that I am gluten

free. I never did have gut symptoms, but do now if I advertently eat something

with gluten in it. Sometimes it takes up to 2 years or longer for the gut to

heal.

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[Guest guest]

You more than likely have had Celiac disease all along. Crohn's and other digestive issues are misdiagnosed a lot. Also Celiac disease does not develop into cancer really quick, it does carry a higher risk of developing cancer than those without it.LinnOn Jun 10, 2010, at 3:32 PM, DeNormandie wrote:

I developed celiac's at the age of 45 also having crohn's and ischemic coloitis. I've got three things going on. At the age of 19 I was dx with crohn's disease. Last June celiac's. In fact the blood work came back negative but the biopsy told the whole truth. I would advise everyone to get a colonoscopy that hasn't had one if you are having problems. Yeah I know, you don't want any stranger down there but it is a LIFE SAVER! And when you had had one of those test done you can just about do anything. The only part about the test I don't like and HATE is drinking the gallon jug of stuff and pooping my brains out til the next day but you have to do what you have to do. Celiac's can go into cancer really quick and effect other organs in your body as so does crohn's. Trust me it is worth the test.

Saved my life and i have 4 children whom I'm waiting patiently waiting for grand children. from IllinoisFrom: Mishie <michele.westgmail>iodine Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:42:40 PMSubject: Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

I see an allergy doc very regularly for shots and checked the other day about gluten/wheat allergy testing .

Found out I was tested in 2004 and was found to be negative Do most people do it by trial and error instead of official testing? I am going to see the doc at the end of the month and talk to them again about it. Could I have developed the allergy in the last few years?

Thanks again for all the help!

Michele (NoCal)

>

> I feel better being gluten free too. I used to have bad heartburn too. No longer. I also had a very gassy gut. That's gone too.

>

> Steph

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>

> Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

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>

>

>

> Swollen belly and pain is one symptom of celiac disease or gluten intolerance. It goes away when a person is 100% gluten free. You might want to experiment by going gluten free for 2 weeks and see if it makes a difference. If it does and you want to be tested for it, go right away as the antibody titers drop quickly when a person goes gluten free, yielding negative results. And Testing is about 70% accurate. But the final answer is if you feel better being gluten free. I no longer have GERD and heartburn now that I am gluten free. I never did have gut symptoms, but do now if I advertently eat something with gluten in it. Sometimes it takes up to 2 years or longer for the gut to heal.

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[Guest guest]

Times 3 is what it feels like. After being dx with crohn's I kind of accepted the fact, non-curable but then last year after being told ischemic colitis and celiac's it just about killed me. I was so lost for so long.But with the help of this group and a few friends and family members that understood there was a light at the end of the tunnel. from IllinoisFrom: Linn

<linnmiller@...>iodine Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 11:45:38 AMSubject: Re: Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

You more than likely have had Celiac disease all along. Crohn's and other digestive issues are misdiagnosed a lot. Also Celiac disease does not develop into cancer really quick, it does carry a higher risk of developing cancer than those without it.LinnOn Jun 10, 2010, at 3:32 PM, DeNormandie wrote:

I developed celiac's at the age of 45 also having crohn's and ischemic coloitis. I've got three things going on. At the age of 19 I was dx with crohn's disease. Last June celiac's. In fact the blood work came back negative but the biopsy told the whole truth. I would advise everyone to get a colonoscopy that hasn't had one if you are having problems. Yeah I know, you don't want any stranger down there but it is a LIFE SAVER! And when you had had one of those test done you can just about do anything. The only part about the test I don't like and HATE is drinking the gallon jug of stuff and pooping my brains out til the next day but you have to do what you have to do. Celiac's can go into cancer really quick and effect other organs in your body as so does crohn's. Trust me it is worth the test.

Saved my life and i have 4 children whom I'm waiting patiently waiting for grand children. from IllinoisFrom: Mishie <michele.westgmail>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:42:40 PMSubject: Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

I see an allergy doc very regularly for shots and checked the other day about gluten/wheat allergy testing .

Found out I was tested in 2004 and was found to be negative Do most people do it by trial and error instead of official testing? I am going to see the doc at the end of the month and talk to them again about it. Could I have developed the allergy in the last few years?

Thanks again for all the help!

Michele (NoCal)

>

> I feel better being gluten free too. I used to have bad heartburn too. No longer. I also had a very gassy gut. That's gone too.

>

> Steph

>

>

> Re: Detox/Ultra Clear

>

>

>

>

> Swollen belly and pain is one symptom of celiac disease or gluten intolerance. It goes away when a person is 100% gluten free. You might want to experiment by going gluten free for 2 weeks and see if it makes a difference. If it does and you want to be tested for it, go right away as the antibody titers drop quickly when a person goes gluten free, yielding negative results. And Testing is about 70% accurate. But the final answer is if you feel better being gluten free. I no longer have GERD and heartburn now that I am gluten free. I never did have gut symptoms, but do now if I advertently eat something with gluten in it. Sometimes it takes up to 2 years or longer for the gut to heal.

>

>

>