Re: Re: newbie w/ Hashimoto's & maybe adrenal fatigue - questions (long)

[Guest guest]

Allie,

Armour IS being sold in the USA. Friends of mine have gotten it

as recently as 1 month ago.

Donna in IL

Sara

I have Hashimoto's too, and it was related to Mercury - could it be fillings in

your mouth?

Please consider joining the Vit K group, and read the files on Triquench for

Iodine info, there is tons of info - and its very helpful its what I am using

and my son too.

Please read how Iodine can help heal breast tissue, you may not need surg.

VitaminK-subscribe

BTW: Armour is not being sold in the USA, its only available in Canada. You

also may want to look in the Hotze Clinic if you are close to TX, they are

actually in Katy, TX - by Houston.

I can send you more info, E-mail me off line.

Blessingsx10@...

HTH's

Allie

[Guest guest]

Yes, , the iodine is used with the Synthroid, no problem. The

potential exists for your Hashi's to be cured, and if that starts to happen

you'll get hypErthyroid symptoms, the symptoms of too much thyroid

hormone. Meanwhile, the iodine will help heal a whole bunch of other

problems and make you feel better in ways that the hormones alone, in my

experience, don't. The whole body needs the iodine.

You get past the fear of causing more problems by educating yourself and

empowering yourself with the fact that doctors have limited powers and

knowledge, and negative beliefs about iodine are a big huge black hole of

ignorance and bad faith among the Western medical community.

A huge range of illnesses may all actually be the result of iodine

deprivation. Thyroid illnesses are number one, fibrocystic breast disease

has been clinically shown to respond to iodine, people are healing their

breast cancer with the iodine protocol, etc etc etc. I think people who

have impaired thyroid function are better equipped to truly understand how

fundamentally crucial iodine is for any kind of health, because with no

thyroid we have no metabolism and our brain power wanes, and only those of

us who have experienced that can truly appreciate it when it comes back.

It's so obvious to me that without thyroid, and therefore without iodine,

we are doomed.

I wrote another email which I reckon you are getting to, with links for

more info.

take care.

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At 06:54 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:

>how do i do that? how do i get past the fear of causing more problems? do

>i do that while i'm on the synthroid? i'm pretty confused at this point.

>

>sarah

>

>

> >

> > based on the symptoms you just shared you need iodine, kelp is too low

> of dose and it can actually aggravate things because the body is in such

> desperate need of iodine. I would use Iodoral or lugol's and get

> yourself to a 50 mg dose as quickly as possible.

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

>thank you so much for all of the details! not only will i check the links,

>i'm going to print out your email so i can post it where i can read it

>every morning (i guess i should print a lot of this stuff out).

heh. good... I'm glad to be able to help. I felt like our set of problems

is enough alike that I could speak in detail with confidence.

>what dose iodine did you start with? how did you ramp it up and how did

>you know if your body was ready to increase the dosage?

I started with 2 drops of Lugol's 2%, which is about 5mg.

2 drops of 2% lugol's = 5mg

5 drops of 2% lugol's = 12.5mg

6 drops of 2% lugol's = 15mg

8 drops of 2% lugol's = 20mg

2 drops of 5% lugol's = 12.5mg

8 drops of 5% lugol's = 50mg

I did 2 drops for 2 days. The 3rd day when I woke up I was craving the

iodine and I doubled it to 4 drops. Within a week I was at 25mg and stayed

there for a couple of weeks or so, then crept up to 50mgs, then 75mg and

then got higher than than, am back down to 50mgs and going to go slower to

get it back up to 100mg because I now know that 100mgs is where I will be

detoxing heavily and I *want* to go there, just more slowly and armed with

more knowledge about what the detox symptoms look like in my case.

The way I knew my body was ready in the early days was that I literally was

craving it... thinking about it and desiring it. I pushed harder later on

because I no longer had any fear of it and I still do not have fear, I

actually have excitement that this is a fantastic tool for healing for

me. There was no harm done when I pressed harder than I should have, I

learned a lot and many of the people here describe going over the top and

backing down, that's part of everyone's learning curve who decide they want

to saturate with iodine.

We're here to help.

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

>thanks. i saw this before; i'm just scared of taking/starting the iodine. 8-|

>

>sarah

I suggest taking a couple of drops and you'll lose your fear pretty

quickly. For those of us with fibromyalgia, then sense of energy that the

Lugol's provided me was so desperately needed. That's part of why I'm

still taking 5 drops of Lugol's a day in addition to my Iodoral, is the

surge of energy I experience.

And yes you're right, if your doctor had more knowledge and had taken you

more seriously you might not have gotten to the state you're in. I know

that one, for sure.

--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

>can you tell me when you took it, schedule-wise? for example, if i take my

>synthroid upon awakening, an hour later i take my non-mineral supplements.

I take my iodine tablets with my breakfast and vitamins. I take Lugol's

later in the day when I'm slumping. Some people take the iodine tablets on

an empty stomach, most people taking Lugol's say take it with food.

> then at the 4-hour mark (or as soon as possible thereafter) i take my

> mineral supplements. when do you take the iodine? when do you take the salt?

I take a big part of my salt first thing in the morning with my thyroid

meds (I'm wondering now if that's such a good idea, but I love how it feels

first thing). It can be taken anytime. The minimum suggested is 1/2 tsp

in water, plus as desired on food. Some recommended 1/2 to 1 tsp plus as

desired on food. I'm getting the latter amount, plus salt loading.

>since i saw the 3 emails about vitamin c interfering with iodine, when do

>you take the vitamin c?

It's been determined that Vit C is only potentially a problem with Lugol's

because they could mix in the stomach, but not at all a problem with the

Iodoral tablets, because those are coated to dissolve deep in the gut. In

addition, people taking Lugol's say they have had good results and took Vit

C at the same time. I guess you'll have to sort out what you think on

this; if you want to separate them, you'll have to work it out when you're

comfortable with that. Vit C should be taken in divided doses over the

day, at least 2, to keep the body flooded since it washes out with urine.

>do you do the salt loading any time you start to feel like crap?

yup.

>is there any way to tell if the " truck hit me " feeling is detox, fibro

>flare, or the swing of hashimoto's?

If you salt load (and remember you may have to repeat the salt load more

than once before urination flows) and the feelings subside, it's detox. If

you back off the iodine and feelings subside, it's detox.

In my case I started LDN before iodine, so I no longer had the fibro pain

much, and the brain fog was lifting. Adding the iodine improved my energy.

When I would then start to feel bad, doing the salt loading fixed it. When

I had what I assumed was a fibro flare after going almost to 100mg of

iodine last week, I didn't think to salt load, not realizing it was

detox. On the advice of folks here on the list, I skipped a day of iodine

and the flare instantly collapsed, again telling me it was detox.

So an important thing to remember is that detox symptoms may imitate your

disease symptoms and when you've got the iodine going, assume all bad

feelings are detox and salt load. If it doesn't change it, then you know

it's the disease itself.

May I say that I think you'll have really good effects with the iodine

because you're already so conscientious about taking your supplements so

carefully. People are having great results who are much sloppier, like me.

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>thanks!

>

>sarah

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I have always read that you get more chlorine into your body taking a shower than you do from drinking (which is why so many people recommend shower filters that remove chlorine.)AnneOn Feb 21, 2010, at 4:39 PM, wrote: thanks, i'll check them out. though i've been using bottled water for years, both to drink and to cook with, MOST of the time, i'm guessing that the lifetime of tap water prior to that could be part of the problem. sarah > > A lot here for you to deal with. > > I highly recommend below as a place to begin: > http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/fibromyalgia.html > > The fibro and the thyroid issues point to fluoride. > As very possible and likely. > > Bruce

[Guest guest]

Yup, absorbed through the skin and breathing it, also it goes through the house...

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Anne Seals

I have always read that you get more chlorine into your body taking a shower than you do from drinking (which is why so many people recommend shower filters that remove chlorine.)

Anne

On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:39 PM, wrote:

[Guest guest]

you can start on 50mg. I took 3 days to get to 50mg. first day I took

12.5mg, second day I took 25mg, third day I took 50mg--no probs. now I

take 100mg Iodoral.

gracia

wrote:

>

>

> thank you so much for all of the details! not only will i check the

> links, i'm going to print out your email so i can post it where i can

> read it every morning (i guess i should print a lot of this stuff out).

>

> what dose iodine did you start with? how did you ramp it up and how

> did you know if your body was ready to increase the dosage?

>

> sarah

>

[Guest guest]

There you go-- I didn't know what the norms were. , it's possible to

just make it very straightforward. --

At 08:35 AM 2/22/2010, you wrote:

>you can start on 50mg. I took 3 days to get to 50mg. first day I took

>12.5mg, second day I took 25mg, third day I took 50mg--no probs. now I

>take 100mg Iodoral.

>gracia

>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > thank you so much for all of the details! not only will i check the

> > links, i'm going to print out your email so i can post it where i can

> > read it every morning (i guess i should print a lot of this stuff out).

> >

> > what dose iodine did you start with? how did you ramp it up and how

> > did you know if your body was ready to increase the dosage?

> >

> > sarah

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I have not been, and have not seen it discussed here. Perhaps others will

comment.

But the thing about the unrefined salt is that the minerals are in a good

balance in it.

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At 03:59 PM 2/23/2010, you wrote:

>thanks!

>

>do you supplement with potassium when you salt load for detox? i've had

>both high and low potassium and both feel horrible.

>

>sarah

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

-- we all do the best we can at any given point. Exposure to chlorine

in water just makes it all the more important to do the iodine

protocol. --

At 04:02 PM 2/23/2010, you wrote:

>crud. i'm going to have to start taking baths then. our shower head that

>had a filter broke and i don't have the money to get another handheld with

>a filter. i had forgotten about that.

>

>ohh! sponge baths! how much water and money we could save! :-D

>

>sarah

>

>

> >

> > I have always read that you get more chlorine into your body taking a

> > shower than you do from drinking (which is why so many people

> > recommend shower filters that remove chlorine.)

> >

> > Anne

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste