Re: Re: Benedryl alternative

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From what I understand, Benedryl stimulates the adrenal glands to produce more cortisol. Every now and then I guess there would be no problem with that. The problem with the adrenals overproducing cortisol on a regular basis is that the adrenal glands can become damaged and cause inadequate production of cortisol causing extreme fatigue.

From: Kathy <sunbriar@...>iodine Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:11:15 AMSubject: Re: Benedryl alternative

Im sorry to be slow, can someone tell me whats wrong with taking bendydril? Thanks, Kathy

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Can you please post a link for this? Benadryl has a side-effect of

sleepiness, which makes me doubt that it stimulates cortisol, and the only

relation I can find are mentions of benadryl causing cortisol to be DECREASED.

http://www.patientsville.com/medication/benadryl_side_effects.htm (I

searched for: benadryl cortisol, which should give me hits where both are

discussed. All I find are cortisol depression.)

Benadryl has problems, but I'm skeptical that overproduction of cortisol is

one of them.

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> From what I understand, Benedryl stimulates the adrenal glands to produce

> more cortisol. Every now and then I guess there would be no problem with

> that. The problem with the adrenals overproducing cortisol on a regular

> basis is that the adrenal glands can become damaged and cause inadequate

> production of cortisol causing extreme fatigue.

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>From: Kathy <sunbriar@...>

>iodine

>Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:11:15 AM

>Subject: Re: Benedryl alternative

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>Im sorry to be slow, can someone tell me whats wrong with taking

>bendydril? Thanks, Kathy

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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I know I am totally weird, but I had an allergic reaction to sulpha, & was given benadryl to counteract the allergic reaction. I had psychadelic bad-trip nightmares that had me clinging to the mattress in terror, & I will NEVER take another dose of benadryl.AnneOn Oct 8, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Baker wrote: Can you please post a link for this? Benadryl has a side-effect of sleepiness, which makes me doubt that it stimulates cortisol, and the only relation I can find are mentions of benadryl causing cortisol to be DECREASED. http://www.patientsville.com/medication/benadryl_side_effects.htm (I searched for: benadryl cortisol, which should give me hits where both are discussed. All I find are cortisol depression.) Benadryl has problems, but I'm skeptical that overproduction of cortisol is one of them. -- > From what I understand, Benedryl stimulates the adrenal glands to produce > more cortisol. Every now and then I guess there would be no problem with > that. The problem with the adrenals overproducing cortisol on a regular > basis is that the adrenal glands can become damaged and cause inadequate > production of cortisol causing extreme fatigue. > > > > > >From: Kathy <sunbriar@...> >iodine >Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:11:15 AM >Subject: Re: Benedryl alternative > > > >Im sorry to be slow, can someone tell me whats wrong with taking >bendydril? Thanks, Kathy ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste

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I went back to Adrenal Fatigue, The 21st Century Stress Syndrome by J. , you are right. I reread the section about topical cortisols. At the time I read this I was suffering severly from Adrenal Fatigue and got the topical cortisol mixed up in my head. Thanks for the clarification. I feel better about benadryl now but would still like to find alternatives.

Sorry for any confusion.

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 2:19:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: Benedryl alternative

Can you please post a link for this? Benadryl has a side-effect of sleepiness, which makes me doubt that it stimulates cortisol, and the only relation I can find are mentions of benadryl causing cortisol to be DECREASED.http://www.patientsville.com/medication/benadryl_side_effects.htm (I searched for: benadryl cortisol, which should give me hits where both are discussed. All I find are cortisol depression.)Benadryl has problems, but I'm skeptical that overproduction of cortisol is one of them.--> From what I understand, Benedryl stimulates the adrenal glands to produce > more cortisol. Every now and then I guess there would be no problem with > that. The problem with the adrenals overproducing cortisol on a regular > basis is that the adrenal glands can become damaged and cause inadequate > production of cortisol causing extreme

fatigue.>>>>>>From: Kathy <sunbriar@...>>iodine >Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:11:15 AM>Subject: Re: Benedryl alternative>>>>Im sorry to be slow, can someone tell me whats wrong with taking >bendydril? Thanks, Kathy~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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No worries, . I can't handle the sleepiness of benadryl and use

claritin or the one that starts with z (my preference) when I absolutely

have to for allergies. However, most of the time I don't have to resort to

that, since instituting a supplement regimen that helps me. The problem is

when money gets tight I have to stop taking them and then I get overwhelmed

again.

When I take NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) and Quercitin/Bromelain I don't have

any problems. I get mine from Vitacost and buy their house brand NSI,

cheapest I've found for high quality.

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At 04:19 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:

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>I went back to Adrenal Fatigue, The 21st Century Stress Syndrome by J.

>, you are right. I reread the section about topical cortisols. At

>the time I read this I was suffering severly from Adrenal Fatigue and got

>the topical cortisol mixed up in my head. Thanks for the

>clarification. I feel better about benadryl now but would still like to

>find alternatives.

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>Sorry for any confusion.

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Good to know thanks!

From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 7:52:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Benedryl alternative

No worries, . I can't handle the sleepiness of benadryl and use claritin or the one that starts with z (my preference) when I absolutely have to for allergies. However, most of the time I don't have to resort to that, since instituting a supplement regimen that helps me. The problem is when money gets tight I have to stop taking them and then I get overwhelmed again.When I take NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) and Quercitin/Bromelain I don't have any problems. I get mine from Vitacost and buy their house brand NSI, cheapest I've found for high quality.--At 04:19 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:>:>>I went back to Adrenal Fatigue, The 21st Century Stress Syndrome by J. >, you are right. I reread the section about topical cortisols. At >the time I read this I was suffering severly from Adrenal Fatigue and got >the topical cortisol mixed up in

my head. Thanks for the >clarification. I feel better about benadryl now but would still like to >find alternatives.>>Sorry for any confusion.>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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i am coming late into this subject, but i am having skin issues. i am diabetic along with the thyroid stuff, haven't taken benadryl, would this nac work for my skin? diane, near philly, pa On Oct 9, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Baker wrote:No worries, . I can't handle the sleepiness of benadryl and use claritin or the one that starts with z (my preference) when I absolutely have to for allergies. However, most of the time I don't have to resort to that, since instituting a supplement regimen that helps me. The problem is when money gets tight I have to stop taking them and then I get overwhelmed again.When I take NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) and Quercitin/Bromelain I don't have any problems. I get mine from Vitacost and buy their house brand NSI, cheapest I've found for high quality.--At 04:19 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:>:>>I went back to Adrenal Fatigue, The 21st Century Stress Syndrome by J. >, you are right. I reread the section about topical cortisols. At >the time I read this I was suffering severly from Adrenal Fatigue and got >the topical cortisol mixed up in my head. Thanks for the >clarification. I feel better about benadryl now but would still like to >find alternatives.>>Sorry for any confusion.>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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>i am coming late into this subject, but i am having skin issues. i am

>diabetic along with the thyroid stuff, haven't taken benadryl, would this

>nac work for my skin?

Here's some info:

>Beneficial effects of NAC in diabetes

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>Full source: Diabetes, 1999, Vol. 48, 1ss 12, PP 2398-2406

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>Free radicals are produced under diabetic conditions and possibly cause

>various forms of tissue damage in those with diabetes. A study examined

>the involvement of free radicals in the progression of pancreatic cell

>dysfunction in type 2 diabetes and evaluated the potential usefulness of

>N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) in the treatment of type 2 diabetes. The

>treatment with NAC retained glucose-stimulated insulin secretion and

>moderately decreased blood glucose levels showing possible protection of

>pancreatic beta-cells against glucose toxicity. The beta-cell mass was

>significantly larger in the diabetic mice treated with NAC than in the

>untreated mice. The antioxidant treatment suppressed apoptosis (programmed

>cell death) in beta-cells without changing the rate of beta-cell

>proliferation. The antioxidant treatment also preserved the amounts of

>insulin content and insulin mRNA, and the activity of a beta-cell-specific

>transcription factor ( transfer of genetic code information from one kind

>of nucleic acid to another), was more clearly visible in the nuclei of

>islets of Langerhans cells of the pancreas. Thus, the antioxidant

>treatment with NAC can exert beneficial effects in diabetes, with

>preservation of beta-cell function. This finding suggests a potential

>usefulness of antioxidants for treating diabetes and provides further

>support for the implication of free radicals in beta-cell dysfunction in

>diabetes.

http://www.lef.org/Lefcms/Template/magazine_pages.aspx?NRMODE=Published & NRNODEGU\

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However, this same organization, which I respect a lot, says that people

with diabetes need to be aware of the following:

>NAC

>NAC clearance is reduced in people who have chronic liver disease.

>Do not take NAC if you have a history of kidney stones (particularly

>cystine stones).

>NAC can produce a false-positive result in the nitroprusside test for

>ketone bodies used to detect diabetes.

>Consult your doctor before taking NAC if you have a history of peptic

>ulcer disease. Mucolytic agents may disrupt the gastric mucosal barrier.

>NAC can cause headache (especially when used along with nitrates) and

>gastrointestinal symptoms such as nausea and diarrhea.

Here is their page with recommendations for supplementation for diabetes,

which includes NAC. The table at the top shows dosage, scroll down for the

information about each supplement.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/metabolic_health/diabetes_03.htm

If you're going to buy it, I strongly recommend www.vitacost.com NSI (their

house brand), much cheaper.

I don't know what the answer is about skin/allergy reactions. I suspect

that its action against mucus would help.

btw, usually Wikipedia is a terrible source for information about

nutritional supplements or alternative medicine. However, in this case

their information is reasonably good:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcysteine

best wishes,

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste