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Hi ;

In Turkey people rarely catch a cold, and i as well catch a cold maybe every

six or seven years(although my girls and my ex to be get it twice a year)

because of this fact. I eat alot of berries but i also take something called

elderberry extract you can find them in a health store, finally after 8

years of marriage my wife brokedown and took this thing this year. It was

the first year she didn't catch a cold and she started taking it as she was

starting to get one and she felt better the next day. That is what works for

me. Good Luck, TURK

>From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

>Reply-

> " " < >,

> " longqt " <longqt >,

><heartfailure >

>Subject: Colds and flu

>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:39:00 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

>

>Hi guys,

>

>It's official.....I have an extremely bad cold. In 2 days my symptoms are

>as bad as my daughters were in twice that time. The doc put me on

>amoxicillan right away.

>

>I am coughing and hacking hard with a lot of fluid coming up. So much so

>that I can't sleep, have a headache and my heart rate is jumping up as high

>as 110 and going into arrythmia just laying in bed. I don't need to get

>zapped on top of it all.

>

>Any ideas to help. I can't take antihistamines, decongestants, nasal

>sprays

>or anything like that. Of course, I can't reach the Doc today either.

>

>Any ideas.

>

>

>

>-- Re: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

>

>In a message dated 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>Scrapnfriend@... writes:

>

><< Subj: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

>Date: 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time

>From: Scrapnfriend@... ( )

>Reply-to: heartfailure

> heartfailure

>

>Ok guys: Where do I get a copy of the diet you guys are following. Until

>I

>can improve my CHF and be physically active again they will not even

>consider me. Has to do with healing and blood clots etc.

>

>

>

>Don: can you believe my luck, the only Bariatric Surgeon at Stanford is

>leaving and they have no one to take her place. Because of my insurance I

>can't follow her either. Hopefully they will find someone in the next few

>months.

>

>

>

>

>

>TIA,

>

>

>

>

>

> >>

>Sid Sez:

>

>An HF compliant diet is really simple, but it's a challenge to stay with

>it.

>

>No salt, no sugar, no fat, no white flour, maximum 2 liters of liquid per

>day. Eat as much uncooked food as you possibly can. Eat as much unprocessed

>food as you possibly can. Eat as much organic food as you possibly can.

>

>If you are seeking a diet that has been proven to repair broken minds and

>ailing bodies, please go to this website and sign up to receive their free

>weekly e-mail newsletter:

>

>http://www.hacres.com/healthtips.asp

>

>I am a good Jew and Brother is an enthusiastic Christian, but we

>agree

>that the Creator can heal our bodies if we choose to work in concert with

>what the Bible tells us to eat. I am almost completely on Brother 's

>Hallelujah Diet and it seems to be helping me with my heart failure

>problems

>

>

>At the least, it's worth a few minutes of your time to check things out and

>read the weekly testimonials. Expect a miracle? Why not? But you have to do

>your part of carrying out the plan!

>

>A great weekend to all,

>Sid

>SKLEINER@...

>

>

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There is also at Trader Joe's, a cold tablet called AIRBORNE, it is an range

fizzy drink - you add the tablet to warm water. It is FULL of vitimin C

echenasia etc, and it works to help build you up to fight it off. It is the

only medicine my son will take for a cold. You should also contact your Doc

because there are prescriptive decongestants/cough syrup you CAN take.

Take it easy. I know you feel miserable and taking care of yourself it hard,

but you can do it. At least call your DOC and leave a message or talk to a DOC

on call.

Good luck, guin

" Gurhan G. Ozdemir " wrote:

> Hi ;

> In Turkey people rarely catch a cold, and i as well catch a cold maybe every

> six or seven years(although my girls and my ex to be get it twice a year)

> because of this fact. I eat alot of berries but i also take something called

> elderberry extract you can find them in a health store, finally after 8

> years of marriage my wife brokedown and took this thing this year. It was

> the first year she didn't catch a cold and she started taking it as she was

> starting to get one and she felt better the next day. That is what works for

> me. Good Luck, TURK

>

> >From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

> >Reply-

> > " " < >,

> > " longqt " <longqt >,

> ><heartfailure >

> >Subject: Colds and flu

> >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:39:00 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> >

> >Hi guys,

> >

> >It's official.....I have an extremely bad cold. In 2 days my symptoms are

> >as bad as my daughters were in twice that time. The doc put me on

> >amoxicillan right away.

> >

> >I am coughing and hacking hard with a lot of fluid coming up. So much so

> >that I can't sleep, have a headache and my heart rate is jumping up as high

> >as 110 and going into arrythmia just laying in bed. I don't need to get

> >zapped on top of it all.

> >

> >Any ideas to help. I can't take antihistamines, decongestants, nasal

> >sprays

> >or anything like that. Of course, I can't reach the Doc today either.

> >

> >Any ideas.

> >

> >

> >

> >-- Re: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

> >

> >In a message dated 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> >Scrapnfriend@... writes:

> >

> ><< Subj: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

> >Date: 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> >From: Scrapnfriend@... ( )

> >Reply-to: heartfailure

> > heartfailure

> >

> >Ok guys: Where do I get a copy of the diet you guys are following. Until

> >I

> >can improve my CHF and be physically active again they will not even

> >consider me. Has to do with healing and blood clots etc.

> >

> >

> >

> >Don: can you believe my luck, the only Bariatric Surgeon at Stanford is

> >leaving and they have no one to take her place. Because of my insurance I

> >can't follow her either. Hopefully they will find someone in the next few

> >months.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >TIA,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >>

> >Sid Sez:

> >

> >An HF compliant diet is really simple, but it's a challenge to stay with

> >it.

> >

> >No salt, no sugar, no fat, no white flour, maximum 2 liters of liquid per

> >day. Eat as much uncooked food as you possibly can. Eat as much unprocessed

> >food as you possibly can. Eat as much organic food as you possibly can.

> >

> >If you are seeking a diet that has been proven to repair broken minds and

> >ailing bodies, please go to this website and sign up to receive their free

> >weekly e-mail newsletter:

> >

> >http://www.hacres.com/healthtips.asp

> >

> >I am a good Jew and Brother is an enthusiastic Christian, but we

> >agree

> >that the Creator can heal our bodies if we choose to work in concert with

> >what the Bible tells us to eat. I am almost completely on Brother 's

> >Hallelujah Diet and it seems to be helping me with my heart failure

> >problems

> >

> >

> >At the least, it's worth a few minutes of your time to check things out and

> >read the weekly testimonials. Expect a miracle? Why not? But you have to do

> >your part of carrying out the plan!

> >

> >A great weekend to all,

> >Sid

> >SKLEINER@...

> >

> >

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There is also at Trader Joe's, a cold tablet called AIRBORNE, it is an orange

fizzy drink - you add the tablet to warm water. It is FULL of vitimin C

echenasia etc, and it works to help build you up to fight it off. It is the

only medicine my son will take for a cold. You should also contact your Doc

because there are prescriptive decongestants/cough syrup you CAN take.

Take it easy. I know you feel miserable and taking care of yourself it hard,

but you can do it. At least call your DOC and leave a message or talk to a DOC

on call.

Good luck, guin

" Gurhan G. Ozdemir " wrote:

> Hi ;

> In Turkey people rarely catch a cold, and i as well catch a cold maybe every

> six or seven years(although my girls and my ex to be get it twice a year)

> because of this fact. I eat alot of berries but i also take something called

> elderberry extract you can find them in a health store, finally after 8

> years of marriage my wife brokedown and took this thing this year. It was

> the first year she didn't catch a cold and she started taking it as she was

> starting to get one and she felt better the next day. That is what works for

> me. Good Luck, TURK

>

> >From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

> >Reply-

> > " " < >,

> > " longqt " <longqt >,

> ><heartfailure >

> >Subject: Colds and flu

> >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:39:00 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> >

> >Hi guys,

> >

> >It's official.....I have an extremely bad cold. In 2 days my symptoms are

> >as bad as my daughters were in twice that time. The doc put me on

> >amoxicillan right away.

> >

> >I am coughing and hacking hard with a lot of fluid coming up. So much so

> >that I can't sleep, have a headache and my heart rate is jumping up as high

> >as 110 and going into arrythmia just laying in bed. I don't need to get

> >zapped on top of it all.

> >

> >Any ideas to help. I can't take antihistamines, decongestants, nasal

> >sprays

> >or anything like that. Of course, I can't reach the Doc today either.

> >

> >Any ideas.

> >

> >

> >

> >-- Re: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

> >

> >In a message dated 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> >Scrapnfriend@... writes:

> >

> ><< Subj: [heartfailure] Low Sodium Diet

> >Date: 5/2/2002 7:27:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> >From: Scrapnfriend@... ( )

> >Reply-to: heartfailure

> > heartfailure

> >

> >Ok guys: Where do I get a copy of the diet you guys are following. Until

> >I

> >can improve my CHF and be physically active again they will not even

> >consider me. Has to do with healing and blood clots etc.

> >

> >

> >

> >Don: can you believe my luck, the only Bariatric Surgeon at Stanford is

> >leaving and they have no one to take her place. Because of my insurance I

> >can't follow her either. Hopefully they will find someone in the next few

> >months.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >TIA,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >>

> >Sid Sez:

> >

> >An HF compliant diet is really simple, but it's a challenge to stay with

> >it.

> >

> >No salt, no sugar, no fat, no white flour, maximum 2 liters of liquid per

> >day. Eat as much uncooked food as you possibly can. Eat as much unprocessed

> >food as you possibly can. Eat as much organic food as you possibly can.

> >

> >If you are seeking a diet that has been proven to repair broken minds and

> >ailing bodies, please go to this website and sign up to receive their free

> >weekly e-mail newsletter:

> >

> >http://www.hacres.com/healthtips.asp

> >

> >I am a good Jew and Brother is an enthusiastic Christian, but we

> >agree

> >that the Creator can heal our bodies if we choose to work in concert with

> >what the Bible tells us to eat. I am almost completely on Brother 's

> >Hallelujah Diet and it seems to be helping me with my heart failure

> >problems

> >

> >

> >At the least, it's worth a few minutes of your time to check things out and

> >read the weekly testimonials. Expect a miracle? Why not? But you have to do

> >your part of carrying out the plan!

> >

> >A great weekend to all,

> >Sid

> >SKLEINER@...

> >

> >

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hi,

i also havent caught any colds or flus(alot of virus crap constantly in the

early years of this illness, less now of viral and only the flu after taking

the flu shot which i have since stopped taking)

one of the first things my cfids md said to me was that the day i catch cold

and flus means my immune system is more balanced... intstead of being largely

driven by th2 response, it means i will have more of a balance and shift to

th1 which is more normal .

but this hasnt stopped me from accquiring some of the th1 type auto

immune illness( hashimotos, diabetes mellitus to name a few)

somish.

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> hi,

> i also havent caught any colds or flus(alot of virus crap

constantly in the

> early years of this illness, less now of viral and only the flu

after taking

> the flu shot which i have since stopped taking)

> one of the first things my cfids md said to me was that the day i

catch cold

> and flus means my immune system is more balanced... intstead of

being largely

> driven by th2 response, it means i will have more of a balance and

shift to

> th1 which is more normal .

> but this hasnt stopped me from accquiring some of the th1

type auto

> immune illness( hashimotos, diabetes mellitus to name a few)

> somish.

================================================================

It would seem to me that an improper antibody driven response would

be a Th2 type autoimmune illness.

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Most viruses, (Hepatitis being an exception) have evolved to thrive inside our

bodies; temp. 98.6 +/- 1-3 degrees, Dark (no UV or IR light),PH 'neutral', not

too acidic or alkaline. Change any of these parameters very much, and the virus

dies.

First sign of a sore throat or 'sniffles', get a UV (Blacklight) flashlight,

shine it down your throat, up your nostrils,put it against the outside of your

throat and against your cheeks where your sinuses are.

Take enough baking soda or Apple Cider Vinegar to make your body alkaline, or

enough Vit.C or orange juice to make it acidic.

Or, 'give' yourself a fever.Soak in a bath, for 1/2 hour or more, as hot as you

can stand it, and keep adding hot water.When you get out, (dry off) and put on

warm p.j.'s and get into a bed with lots of blankets, even an electric blanket

on high.Goal is to get your temp up several degrees and keep it there for

several hours.

In the 'old days', before aspirin or Tylenol, when someone developed a fever,

they would put them in bed with lots of blankets, maybe a roaring fire in the

fireplace, and someone to sit in a chair by the bed.(To make sure they didn't

kick off the blankets in their sleep). Once the fever broke, everyone would

breath a sigh of relief, knowing they would get better.There are a very few

viruses that can survive at temps higher than our bodies can stand, hence the

concern till the fever breaks.Hope this isn't too 'off topic'.

As far as the Gov't. conspiracy regarding iodine and Lugols, my understanding is

the official explanation is that it can be used to make chrystal meth, and so

much like some cold remedies, they are limiting the amount you can buy.Following

the advise of someone on this group, I bought mine on E-bay, got a nice

quantitiy at a reasonable price.Hope nobody closes off this as a source.Damn

tweekers! Jim

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