ICE

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Hey Jeanine! Well, the show was kinda bad. Lets start from last nite after

my last post. The power had come back on and sometime during the nite we

lost it again. I woke up during the nite and it was pitch black again. I

had no idea if I had slept in or if it was too early. I came downstairs

again looking for my flashlight, put my watch on. It was only 3 am. So I

went back to bed withmy watch on and flashlight in my arms. Fortumatly we

had put a battery in my alarm clock and it went off at the correct time

sooooo still no power, I took a shower via flashlight, makeup on via

flashlight, coulnt do a thing with my hair... lol. Anyways so we all got

up got ready to go ect... looked outside and the one tree had pretty much

finished loosing its branches. Like only two or three left. Got the pickup

loaded and set off to the show. Still no power in Ontario nor webster. I

called to see if it was still happening but the service was not available.

Soo we get to the show about 8ish and no power their either. We go in to

see whats what and a lot of people had set up the day before. Hubby said

lets go get some breakfast and if no power by nine maybe we should not do

it... So we went and had breakfast came back about 9:15 and they are sitll

positive that the power will come on ect... I dont kn ow what to do so I

just start setting up. They started bringing in some generators and bought

some hallogen lights and cords and set up so we had some light but it was

like dimmish but enough so people could walk around. So, fine.. there were

still a lot of poeple comming to the show so I guess good thing we stayed.

Maybe about noonish (not sure the time) the power came back on. It was just

a very very off time. I had a couple good sales (20-30$) but not many and

then this one lady bought some stuf wholesale for her store in Big Flats,

NY. Her sale was half of what I made for the day. But she said that she

currently carried a brand of soaps (we have talked about here b4) from a

company in NY but may stop carrying hers and just carry mine. That was a

big compliment! So I was excited about it. I hope her customers like too.

The bunnies were a huge hit, Sold all but 3 of those. I think I took 15.

She bought half of all the lotions I brought (15 bottles), an entire sliced

log (I didnt post pix of this one) that was the clear withdifferent colored

curlies embeded in it. Which I had 7 bars left. 6 eye pillows and 4

patchouli soaps (she would have wanted more if I had mor with me). I just

gave her a 45% discount but she wants me to send her a price list and stuf.

So I have to get that together. So there is some potential in this new

client.

Other than that the show was not very good. Most people packed it up 2

hours early. Late in the afternoon was hardly any people there. Im sure

the no travel advisory had something to do with it eh? lol Well there is a

lot of people with quite a mess to clean up and still thousands and

thousands of people as we speak with still no power. Ok so now we are

home and exhausted. Our power had must have JUST BaRely came back on when

we got home cuz the thermometer said it was like 58 degrees and the furnace

was working like crazy. I would not be surprized if we lost power again

tonite. Oh my little pine tree I started from sapling came back up.

Leaning but standing.

Well im gonna go finish watching Trading spaces and head to bed.

Nite all!

Shaye

Ice

Oh Shaye, isn't this ice awful? And we don't have it anywhere near

as bad as you folks east of us. Glad you have the wood stove and the

grill. It was a little warmer this a.m. on the way to the Falls but

this afternoon everything is freezing again. At least there is no

more rain at this time. Where is spring? Did you have your show

today? Hope you did well if you did. I have one coming up next

weekend so this week will be busy..

, hope your hubby is feeling better. My DH had an incidence

like the one you described (he is also being treated for high blood

pressure) and our wonderful doctor had him see a cardiac surgeon who

recommended a pace maker. 's had no problems since. Not saying

this is the answer to your DH's problem but hope you and he

investigate all avenues...

Yes Shaye, we had a ball in Florida. The grandkids were so wonderful

to watch! As says 'when was the last time you felt so good you

skipped and shouted?' Love those kids!!

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanine,

So glad you had a great time in Florida. I'm wishing I was there right

NOW! Hope your upcoming show goes well!

H.

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we had a ball in Florida. The grandkids were so wonderful to watch! As

says 'when was the last time you felt so good you skipped and shouted?'

[Guest guest]

Hey Shaye! Sorry about your show but it sounds like it may have all been

worthwhile if the wholesale account follows through! Sometimes some of the

worst shows I've done have produced something good. I'm feeling very

fortunate here in Naples. Our school closed on Friday but that must have

been mainly because of the icy roads. I drove out of town for the first

time today and couldn't believe the damage just within 25-30 minutes from my

house! What a huge difference. My daughter, Kaitlyn, and I went to Geneva to

pick up her glasses. She was so excited about her new glasses being ready

and we got there only to find a sign on the door saying they were closed

because of a power outage. Turns out the whole town was down. We drove into

Canandaigua and everyone was closed there except Walmart! Good 'ol Walmart

had a generator running! At least I was able to get some shopping done

there. We must have been right on the edge of the ice because I don't even

think the schools south of us closed on Friday. I saw the pictures of Monroe

and Wayne counties on the news tonight and couldn't believe it. Sure looked

like '91 all over again! We lost power for 8 days back then. Stay warm and

safe!

Good night all!

Katy (p.s. Any Syracuse Orangeman fans here? Sam? I'm a huge fan and was

bouncing off the couch tonight when they won their game! On to the

Championship for them! WooHoo! Couldn't imagine what I would have done if

the power had been out. I'd have been sitting in my van with the heat and

radio on for sure! :-)

[Guest guest]

Wow Shaye! Talk about the weekend from hell! What a trooper you are-and a

nice husband to help you so much! Glad you got that new account-you worked

hard for it and sounds like it will pay off!

I've was without power from 4:30 am yesterday when the smoke alarm went

off-always starts wailing when the power is tripped-until this am. My hubby

and I spent 7 hours-nonstop-bailing out the sump pump to keep the basement

dry-I did the last 2 hours alone while he traveled to get a generator.

(bail, bail, bail, rush upstairs and dump in toilet, back down on knees and

bail, bail, bail.....) I ache today in places I didn't know I have! Last

time we'll go through that madness-either battery backup sump pump, or

generator purchase!!! They're saying it could go off again today while they

make repairs and/or more limbs fall! ugh! Quick computer time! But I know

there are many people much worse off than me- we at least still had hot

water, and a gas stove so we could cook! (Sending warm and peaceful thoughts

to all who are struggling!)

Missed the SU game......

Carol J

[Guest guest]

Carol wow what a mess! Hope you got that thing working! I gues thats one

thing to be said about living in an old house with a crawl space is that we

dont have a basement to pump! It was reall windy last night and I thought

sure that would just finish it off. Who knows when this is gonna end and

everything back to normal whatever normal is.

We are suppose to go to see a play at the school today. Not sure yet if its

cancled or not. Poor kids that have worked hard on that.

Shaye

Re: Ice

Wow Shaye! Talk about the weekend from hell! What a trooper you are-and

a

nice husband to help you so much! Glad you got that new account-you

worked

hard for it and sounds like it will pay off!

I've was without power from 4:30 am yesterday when the smoke alarm went

off-always starts wailing when the power is tripped-until this am. My

hubby

and I spent 7 hours-nonstop-bailing out the sump pump to keep the basement

dry-I did the last 2 hours alone while he traveled to get a generator.

(bail, bail, bail, rush upstairs and dump in toilet, back down on knees

and

bail, bail, bail.....) I ache today in places I didn't know I have! Last

time we'll go through that madness-either battery backup sump pump, or

generator purchase!!! They're saying it could go off again today while

they

make repairs and/or more limbs fall! ugh! Quick computer time! But I

know

there are many people much worse off than me- we at least still had hot

water, and a gas stove so we could cook! (Sending warm and peaceful

thoughts

to all who are struggling!)

Missed the SU game......

Carol J

[Guest guest]

Oh shaye... i feel for ya... i've done a craft show by candle light of all

things... (needless to say the candles on my table were the best sellers that

day... bought by the other crafters)... believe it or not... that show was

not as bad as i would have thought either... i made twice my table fee, and

it was less then a 10 minutes drive... so no harm no foul... good to hear ya

had a good turn out though... good luck with keepin power tonight

Sam

[Guest guest]

Sam, someone had suggested candles but apparently it would have been a fire

hazard to have that many candles burning. Plus someone could be burned,

law suit, yada yada yada... But one lady did have a candle going but she was

in a dark dark corner. But im glad thats over, now on to other stuf.

So far so good with the power. We still have one line (not sure what it is)

that is hanging off the house that someone has to come out and fix.

Everyone is real busy right now. We worked on cleaning up some tree debris

yesterday but its just too much. At least we got two of the three that had

grown together cut down and off the house and other bushes. It really could

have been a lot worse tho. At least we didnt have to go stay in a shelter.

Shaye

Re: Ice

Oh shaye... i feel for ya... i've done a craft show by candle light of all

things... (needless to say the candles on my table were the best sellers

that

day... bought by the other crafters)... believe it or not... that show was

not as bad as i would have thought either... i made twice my table fee,

and

it was less then a 10 minutes drive... so no harm no foul... good to hear

ya

had a good turn out though... good luck with keepin power tonight

Sam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/2003 9:33:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

shaye@... writes:

> At least we didnt have to go stay in a shelter.

>

Too true... this is a very good point... we didn't get much of the ice, but

we are getting a good chunk of the snow right now... good thing it waited

until almost 7pm to start to accumulate... i left work at 8:10 and it was

just starting to get slippery... WILL IT EVER END!!??!?!

Sam (who loves those 90degree days)

[Guest guest]

I am with you Ann. I always use a layer of cloth between my leg and the

ice. I figured you wanted the knee cold, but not Frozen.

Don

On 11/14/06, Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Luci Sutherland

>

> I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to recommend

> it, so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

> cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was kind of a

> handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the only

> way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

>

> The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my bare

> back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's used the

> Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use those

> ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth between

> it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in. And the

> cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

>

> Ann

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I too agree with both of you. We were doing shuttle runs at college and my knee

started to hurt so I stopped and my teacher ordered me to go get ice and all I

got to put between that and my knee was a lousy paper towel, brrrr. I have to

say it does help the swelling though.

Kirsty

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From: Don Franck <panteradon@...>

I am with you Ann. I always use a layer of cloth between my leg and

the

ice. I figured you wanted the knee cold, but not Frozen.

Don

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Luci Sutherland

>

> I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to recommend

> it, so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

> cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was kind of a

> handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the only

> way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

>

> The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my bare

> back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's used the

> Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use those

> ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth between

> it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in. And the

> cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

>

> Ann

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BTW, my PT wets (just barely, you just want them humid) 2 facecloths and

puts them on my knees and then crushed ice in garbage bags - apparently, the

humid facecloths makes it conduct the cold faster and doesn't (burn) hurt

your knees ...

-- Ice

----- Original Message -----

From: Luci Sutherland

I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to recommend it,

so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was kind of a

handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the only

way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my bare

back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's used the

Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use those

ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth between

it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in. And the

cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

Ann

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I have always had an ice-pack with a towel around it to protect the skin. But

it never works. It usually slides off the swollen area and freezes the sides

where it's not really needed.

I'm not saying the ice-pack and cloth method isn't best for you, but I

actually prefer the Dixie-cup version. And my PT wouldn't let me use the Dixie

cup ice for more than a few minutes because " we don't want you to get frostbite

now! " But this method is the one that worked best for me because it put the ice

exactly where I needed it, didn't have to be on there for half an hour, and

could be combined with some gentle, targeted, rubbing which I really liked.

Luci

Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote:

I am with you Ann. I always use a layer of cloth between my leg and

the

ice. I figured you wanted the knee cold, but not Frozen.

Don

On 11/14/06, Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Luci Sutherland

>

> I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to recommend

> it, so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

> cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was kind of a

> handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the only

> way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

>

> The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my bare

> back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's used the

> Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use those

> ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth between

> it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in. And the

> cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

>

> Ann

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I leave my pants on and put a frozen gel pack molded right over my knee when

elevated. Works very well for me.

Mike

MT

Re: Ice

I have always had an ice-pack with a towel around it to protect the skin. But

it never works. It usually slides off the swollen area and freezes the sides

where it's not really needed.

I'm not saying the ice-pack and cloth method isn't best for you, but I

actually prefer the Dixie-cup version. And my PT wouldn't let me use the Dixie

cup ice for more than a few minutes because " we don't want you to get frostbite

now! " But this method is the one that worked best for me because it put the ice

exactly where I needed it, didn't have to be on there for half an hour, and

could be combined with some gentle, targeted, rubbing which I really liked.

Luci

Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote:

I am with you Ann. I always use a layer of cloth between my leg and the

ice. I figured you wanted the knee cold, but not Frozen.

Don

On 11/14/06, Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Luci Sutherland

>

> I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to recommend

> it, so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

> cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was kind of a

> handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the only

> way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

>

> The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my bare

> back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's used the

> Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use those

> ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth between

> it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in. And the

> cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

>

> Ann

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I'll use a gel pack and an ace bandage. I'll start to wrap the bandage

around my knee so I have one layer over my skin. Then I put the gel

pack on and use the rest of the bandage to hold the gel pack in place.

I just tuck the end into another area so I don't need a safety pin.

Has worked for me for years...unfortunately!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I only had direct ice on my knees one time- at physical therapy. It

was the most painful experience in my life. I started crying... no...

WAILING- in front of everyone.

Everyone should use this instead of ice: CVS Instant Cold Therapy

Wrap. It's a thick gel like strip that you keep in the refrigerator.

It's not nearly as cold as ice but it's cold enough to work.

-Hedy

>

> BTW, my PT wets (just barely, you just want them humid) 2 facecloths and

> puts them on my knees and then crushed ice in garbage bags -

apparently, the

> humid facecloths makes it conduct the cold faster and doesn't (burn)

hurt

> your knees ...

>

>

>

> -- Ice

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Luci Sutherland

>

> I hate using ice for pain management, but it's all the rage to

recommend it,

> so don't forget to ice your sore knees! Mmy PT would freeze little Dixie

> cups of water and peel the top of the paper cup away so there was

kind of a

> handle to the ice and I didn't freeze my fingers. That was about the

only

> way I've ever applied ice that I didn't absolutely hate it.

>

> The first time ice was used on me it was like that -- bare ice on my

bare

> back. It was torture. That was in 1982. Then in the mid-90's PT's

used the

> Dixie cup method on my knee -- again, torture. What I do now is use

those

> ice packs that you put in your freezer, but I always put some cloth

between

> it and my skin. If my skin hurts, I put another layer of cloth in.

And the

> cooling still works to hasten making the pain go away.

>

> Ann

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[Guest guest]

Did you all know that the emergency services are trained to look on

mobile phones for the entry ICE (In Case of Emergency). They

recommend that we all put this into our mobile phones with the name and

number of the person you want contacted in an emergency.

If you are able (as I have just done ) you could also put a note about

stweroid use, if you are using them. I have told my emergency contact

that he sould mention steroids straight away if he is ever contacted by

the emergency service about me...

Just thought it may be useful as this is a new bit of knowledge for

me...

Leah xx