T3/adrenals

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Hi again Dave,

yep, those temps suggest adrenal probs. How do you feel about taking the adrenal supplement Nutri Adrenal or Nutri Adrenal Extra....? I found that my adrenals responded very quickly. There's a good temperature chart that you can down load from www.drrind.com so that you can take your basel temp each day and plot it on the chart.... this gives a good visual guide to your recovery/progress. My temp increased from about 36.2 to 36.6 within ten days. Just be wary that you may experience a T4 'dump' if your adrenals get fired up. Many people stop their thyroid meds completely for a while when they start their adrenals supps. Look in the 'files' to read more. Once you get your adrenal profile back you'll have a clearer picture of what you need .The syn. test at the hospital only gives you a snapshot of your adrenals.... the NHS only want to see if you have s or not, it's a kind of all or

nothing. Adrenal fatigue,as I'm sure you are aware is not recognised within the NHS. If you need a guiding hand with a specific programme of treatment,thyroid and adrenal and all that goes with it, you can't do better than seeing Dr.P.

all the best,

julia

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Hi ,

Thank you so much for replying. I find an instant uplift as soon as I take an

NAX tablet actually, its almost like a stimulant. I will download that chart,

thanks. I'm sorry, I dont quite understand what you mean by T4 'dump'. Is this

an accumulation of T4? I have read also that it may be advisable to discontinue

thyroid meds and build up adrenal reserves before titrating back onto them

again. I may have to do this, although it will be a bit of a mental challenge

to do it. Like everyone else I am sure, I had some horrfic symptoms and having

to face them again is something I am really not looking forward to. Its funny,

the physical symptoms I can handle. I became very lethargic, tired, achey as

most people seem to, and my hands cracked awfully. So much so that my

fingertips had deep, black cracks in them. My skin had bright yellow patches on

it too. But I started to become a different person; cranky, distant and probably

a bit unpleasant. I found that so much more distressing than anything else.

, I am sorry to say that I have very little faith left in our medical

establishment. I have been let down by them many times in the past couple of

years, so it is no surprise that they dont recognize adrenal insufficiency.

Seeing Dr P is on my priority list. Again, thank you for taking the time out

of your day to help me, I do really appreciate it.

Dave.

> yep, those temps suggest adrenal probs. How do you feel about taking the

adrenal supplement Nutri Adrenal or Nutri Adrenal Extra....? 

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Hi

I was very interested to read your post. Can I ask - how did you convince your

doctor that you weren't converting T4 to T3? I had a Genova test last month and

it showed I wasn't converting, but when I showed it to my gp he disregarded it

totally. He was though very interested in my adrenal profile test results which

showed very low levels of cortisol so he is sending me to see an endo at the end

of June.

I saw Dr P last week - wonderful man - and he said my adrenals were absolutely

exhausted. My blood pressure didn't just go down when I stood up - in his words

- they crashed! I am now on NA 4 a day at the mo and will be increasing again

next week. He also told me to go on NAX once my own supply of NA has run out.

His plan is that I start armour in about 4 weeks, once my adrenals are happy.

I'm counting down the days!

Also - what is T4 dump? I am still on my original thyroxine at the moment and

Dr P only said to stop it when I start the armour.

Look forward to your reply.

Tisha

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> Hi ,

> Thank you so much for replying. I find an instant uplift as soon

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[Guest guest]

Yes , the bait in that post was not intended on your part but now we are

all wondering HOW?? lol.

Do please tell

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Link

Minireview: 3-Iodothyronamine (T1AM): a new player on the thyroid endocrine team?

Scanlan TS

Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, Oregon Health and Science University, Portland, Oregon 97239-3098, USA. scanlant@...

3-Iodothyronamine (T(1)AM) is an endogenous compound with chemical features that are similar to thyroid hormone. T(1)AM has a carbon skeleton identical to that of T(4) and contains a single carbon-iodine bond. Theoretically, T(1)AM could be produced from T(4) by enzymatic decarboxylation and deiodination. Recent studies show that T(1)AM and higher iodinated thyronamines are subject to similar metabolic processing as iodothyronines such as T(4), suggesting a biological linkage between iodothyronines and iodothyronamines. In addition, single doses of T(1)AM administered to rodents induce a hypometabolic state that in certain ways resembles hibernation and is opposite to the effects of excess T(4). This review will discuss the latest developments on this recently discovered thyroid hormone derivative.

Endocrinology 2009 Mar;150(3):1108-11. Epub 2008 Dec 30

Comment: -

and we need to keep an open mind for the possibility that what many on these forums experience could well be versions of the type of reaction that Tom Scanlan is talking about.

Bob

>> > > > Hi Dave,> > I was on thyroxine for a while after first being diagnosed with hypo t. I became even more unwell. With the help of an understanding gp I proved that I was unable to convert T4 to T3. I self prescribed Armour and regained a good deal of health but still didn't feel great despite treating my 'associated conditions'. My endo gave me T3 which I was really excited about but unfortunately my adrenals just were not up to it....still aren't infact.