Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 I live in NYC, but there are no philosophical exemptions here. It sure would make my life a little easier. The last doc I took my daughter to kept harassing me about letting her vaccinate. She even went as far as calling the insurance company " expressing " her concern about my choice. I think what she really wanted to do was call the cops, lol. That's just one of the experiences that created a diminished trust for docs as far as my decision to vaccinate is concerned. Re: Stressed Out >From: " Troy Lucas " <lucasjt@...> > >Where do you live? If your state has philosophical exemptions then daycare >is no problem--you just check a box on the form they give you. Doctor's are >a little trickier but not impossible. I think if you go in there with an >attack attitude, they get defensive. If you lie and say you are delaying >and doing research, usually they just forget about it eventually. Are >pediatrician has no problem with it even though I've seen provaccine >articles in our health food store magazine he's written. > > Stressed Out > > >> From: " " <queenearth@...> >> >> The fact that I made a choice not to vaccinate my 3 year old daughter is >> causing some stress in my life. I am currently home with her but the time >> has come where I need to get up and get back into the workforce and I >don't >> have a clue about where to send her for daycare or even an appropriate >> doctor (one who will not call 911!) to give her an exam to enter school. >> I've come to a point where I am seriously debating having her vaccinated. >> She's been complaining of " tummy " aches so I must take her to get checked >> out. I am considering whether I should tell the doc that's she's >vaccinated >> and to just check her out, say that I've delayed vaccines for her until >she >> gets older because my son had a reaction, or just say that we have a >> religious exemption. I am so confused because I don't want to make a >wrong >> move to create unnecessary problems. I also feel as though I'm always in >a >> fight, constantly on my guard because the majority of society can sure >make >> life difficult for you when you're doing something that they don't >> understand. Makes me just want to scream!!! >> >> >> >> __________________________________________ >> NetZero - Defenders of the Free World >> Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at >> http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% >> Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! >> 1/937/5/_/489317/_/953917543/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: >1/2623/5/_/489317/_/953934096/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 Where do you live? If your state has philosophical exemptions then daycare is no problem--you just check a box on the form they give you. Doctor's are a little trickier but not impossible. I think if you go in there with an attack attitude, they get defensive. If you lie and say you are delaying and doing research, usually they just forget about it eventually. Are pediatrician has no problem with it even though I've seen provaccine articles in our health food store magazine he's written. Stressed Out > From: " " <queenearth@...> > > The fact that I made a choice not to vaccinate my 3 year old daughter is > causing some stress in my life. I am currently home with her but the time > has come where I need to get up and get back into the workforce and I don't > have a clue about where to send her for daycare or even an appropriate > doctor (one who will not call 911!) to give her an exam to enter school. > I've come to a point where I am seriously debating having her vaccinated. > She's been complaining of " tummy " aches so I must take her to get checked > out. I am considering whether I should tell the doc that's she's vaccinated > and to just check her out, say that I've delayed vaccines for her until she > gets older because my son had a reaction, or just say that we have a > religious exemption. I am so confused because I don't want to make a wrong > move to create unnecessary problems. I also feel as though I'm always in a > fight, constantly on my guard because the majority of society can sure make > life difficult for you when you're doing something that they don't > understand. Makes me just want to scream!!! > > > > __________________________________________ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% > Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! > 1/937/5/_/489317/_/953917543/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 , I am not really sure why you feel so under pressure about having your daughter vaccinated. Do you not have a religious exemption or anything else available to you? Here in Michigan I don not get any crap from anyone about my children not being vaccinated! And if anyone had a problem with it I would tell the to kiss my a@@. I will not take my children to a doctor who thinks that I am neglecting my children for not vaccinating, but so far I have had no problem finding any doctor's who disagree with me or the choices I have made for my children. With all do respect, maybe your the one who isn't sure if you have done the right thing, or maybe your not comfortable with the choices you have made for your child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 Thanks for your input . I am comfortable with the choice that I've made, with the exception of worrying about children recently being vaccinated for polio and being around my child. However...I am not comfortable with what I have to deal with because of my choice. Re: Stressed Out >From: " " <michelle-m@...> > >, > I am not really sure why you feel so under pressure about having your >daughter vaccinated. Do you not have a religious exemption or anything else >available to you? Here in Michigan I don not get any crap from anyone about >my children not being vaccinated! And if anyone had a problem with it I >would tell the to kiss my a@@. >I will not take my children to a doctor who thinks that I am neglecting my >children for not vaccinating, but so far I have had no problem finding any >doctor's who disagree with me or the choices I have made for my children. > With all do respect, maybe your the one who isn't sure if you have done the >right thing, or maybe your not comfortable with the choices you have made >for your child. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! >1/937/5/_/489317/_/953935101/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2000 Report Share Posted March 24, 2000 , I understand than feeling of worrying about the vaccinated children being around your child. That is something we all have to worry about. But I do believe that if you ran into a physician that feels your wrong for vaccinating, find a new one. You shouldn't have to argue your beliefs with them or anyone else. The choice to vaccinate is yours and yours alone. I know that some states have if harder than we do here in Michigan because they are not offered all the exemptions we have, but that is when more parents need to take action and write letters to congress, or state officials. Anyhow, try not to feel so stressed about the choice you made. At least you won't have to think about your child being injured or dead from a reaction to the vaccine, unfortunately that is something I have to live with for the rest of my life. I will never second guess my choice with my other two kids. And every doctor that I speak to about them not being vaccinated will not give me any crap since I lost my first born to vaccines. Best of luck to you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I left the job I loved 18 months ago and I'm not working because I'm not well enough. For one thing I can't get going in the mornings - I get up at 7 but I can't get out till the afternoon most days. Dr P says I need more adrenal support but I can't do that till I've got my Candida under control. I'm feeling pretty ropy most of the time. I'm on Incapacity Benefit and I was called to a medical yesterday. It involved going out much earlier than I normally do which took huge amounts of energy, then walking, getting a train and walking again. The stress made me feel ill and I was slumping all the way. I got to the medical centre after two hours of travelling and hanging around getting lunch, because I hadn't wanted to risk being late. They told me that there was not a doctor for me and they would make me another appointment. I burst into tears. I just couldn't face having to do that journey again. They said that next time I can go to a different centre (and my son can drive me to that one so it may not be as bad) but the rushing, and stress will still all happen. What makes me most cross is that if I'd blown them off like that I'd be in big, big trouble but they can just tell me to go home and come back another day. My husband (who was with me) made a complaint by email but they won't listen as he isn't the 'customer' so I just cut and pasted his complaint into my own email. It won't make any difference - they can't give me back yesterday. I want to work out how I can pay my own stamp so I don't need to claim benefits any more. It's not that it's humiliating - I feel too ill to worry about that - it's that it's so stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 The other way, is to ask them to visit to do an assessment.... > > I left the job I loved 18 months ago and I'm not working because I'm not well enough. For one thing I can't get going in the mornings - I get up at 7 but I can't get out till the afternoon most days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think it's part of uncaring bureaucracy but it's inexcusable when they're dealing with sick people. I wouldn't be claiming Incapacity if I was well but I guess they think that all claimants are fraudulent. I'll think about writing to my MP. I may give it a day or two so I'm feeling a bit more together. Thanks, > > Hi > > Is it part of an orchestrated campaign of harrassment? > > best wishes > Bob > send copy to your MP, mention harrassment, failings in the NHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I didn't know I could do that. I don't feel as if I'm ill enough for that because I can walk for fifteen minutes into town, go round some shops and walk the fifteen minutes back. It's just I can't usually do it much before 3pm. I manage it a bit earlier at the weekend when I walk with my husband. I always feel that if only I made a bit more effort I'd be OK. > > The other way, is to ask them to visit to do an assessment.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hi , If your circadian rhythm is out of w_ack, your ability do anything on a a predictable schedule is 'disabling' (low morning cortisol?). CFS/Fibro/ME is another way of describing the fatigue, but with refinements in precise definitions. Apart from the instantaneous muscle fatigue ~ did they check out why? there may be lack of sufficient glycogen (stored carbohydrates) in muscle tissue..... Low vitamin D3 may also contribute to muscle weakness. It'd be worth supplementing with that, particularly in winter. best wishes Bob feeling you could do more or 'better' doesn't get over the obstacle of having no energy available to do it (Does CoQ10 help?) > > I didn't know I could do that. I don't feel as if I'm ill enough for that because I can walk for fifteen minutes into town, go round some shops and walk the fifteen minutes back. It's just I can't usually do it much before 3pm. I manage it a bit earlier at the weekend when I walk with my husband. I always feel that if only I made a bit more effort I'd be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hi Miriam, I may have looked at Dr Myhill's articles but I don't remember so I'll have a look at them now. It does look like I need vitamin D doesn't it? Thank you > > Dr Myhill recommends taking vitamin D routinely every winter in the UK. Here's her article about it: > > http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=316 > > Basically she says that British sunlight isn't sufficient in the winter. > > I presume you have read her articles about ME/CFS? They are mostly under the heading of Fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 > Getting your benefits could enable you to pay for the treatment you need to get better. > Miriam That's a good point, Miriam. I feel bad spending so much money on supplements but I do need them so that's a good use of the benefit money. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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