Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 I mentioned to a friend that I had been considering taking colloid silver. He advised against it. I sent him a paper on it and asked him why he would say that when there have been proven benefits. He sent me two web sites with the address of quackwatch. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.ht ml http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colloidalmineral s.html From what have been able to gather on this e-group, its the quackwatch that are the quacks. I would appreciate any feed back on this. Am I right in feeling that the medical/pharmicuitical industry are suppressing alternative methods of healing? It sounds like it to me, and its unfortunate because I think my friend is being brain washed like the rest of the healing industry (he's a dietitian at a well know natural health center). Let me know : ) Peace and love to you always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Hello , others, This condition of argyria, skin turning ashen, there is no evidence of cs causing this condition, no verified reports whatsoever. Now if you are talking about silver in high concentrations.... yes this has been reported and proven. Just get on some cs discussion groups for awhile or even do a search on google search engine using collodial silver and argyria and think it will prove interesting. mike slivinski On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:11:37 EST jilsrun@... writes: > I mentioned to a friend that I had been considering taking colloid > silver. He > advised against it. I sent him a paper on it and asked him why he > would say > that when there have been proven benefits. He sent me two web sites > with the > address of quackwatch. > > http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.ht > ml > http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colloidalmineral > s.html > > From what have been able to gather on this e-group, its the > quackwatch that > are the quacks. I would appreciate any feed back on this. Am I right > in > feeling that the medical/pharmicuitical industry are suppressing > alternative > methods of healing? It sounds like it to me, and its unfortunate > because I > think my friend is being brain washed like the rest of the healing > industry > (he's a dietitian at a well know natural health center). Let me know > : ) > > Peace and love to you always, > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hey , For the most part, yup you're right. It's important to note that there are a lot of doctors and researchers from the medical community that support the patient's needs, more than just towing the allopathic party line. I believe that these doctors have taken a lot more risk and a lot more time to learn what really helps. However, there seem to be far more in the medical profession that stick with what they are taught in med school, " don't question the higher medical authorities " , and " don't deviate from what makes money for the industry overall " . Natural and alternative health methods are not financially beneficial for the medical & pharmaceutical industries as most of these methods cannot be patented and therefore controlled. Right now, as we're seeing in the EU countries with the CODEX issue, the laws have been changed allowing the industry to require prescriptions for supplements. It's truly hypocrisy when an industry can say " Well, that's a bunch of quackery....but let's change the laws so we can patent, regulate, and make money off it! " I find it fascinating that an industry spending billions per year on research into " incurable diseases " is left in the dust on a daily basis by people with aids and cancer who are " self treating " using natural therapies. We don't have to spend billions per year on self treatments (mine's closer to $2000/year)....but I'm alive and healthy 10 years past what the medical community could have done for me in the early '90's....and so are many many others. The biggest threat to an industry who relies on the ignorance of the people, is knowledge. So learn now, and learn fast. more info on the codex issue is available at: International Advocates for Health Freedom - <A HREF= " http://www.iahf.com " >http://www.iahf.com</A> w/peace wes bennett wesbenn@... <A HREF= " http://www.knowledgeisthecure.com/ " >www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A> <A HREF= " http://www.wesbennett.com " >wes bennett photography & design</A> > From what have been able to gather on this e-group, its the quackwatch that > are the quacks. I would appreciate any feed back on this. Am I right in > feeling that the medical/pharmicuitical industry are suppressing alternative > methods of healing? It sounds like it to me, and its unfortunate because I > think my friend is being brain washed like the rest of the healing industry > (he's a dietitian at a well know natural health center). Let me know : ) > Peace and love to you always, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Dear Wes. I read your post to and agree 100%. Youranalysis is accurate and if I come to the same conclusion as you after 3 years of struggle to get my wife HBO after her stroke it must be an accurate assessment of our current dilemma. How do we get those in positions of leadership, regardless of the organization, civilian or governmental, to realize the national focus should be on curing cancer for instance, or preventing stroke or heart attack if possible. There have been times in the past 3 years when I became close to the Alternative Med. Director. Dr. Wayne Jonas, no longer there. I have tried to persuade UHMS that brain damage can be improved by HBO and I have a wife to prove it. But it seems like were shoveling sand against a tidal wave of media opinion, medical opinion, political opinion. If you can figure a course of action please count on me. I have a HBO Center that I'm trying to get started, along with other things and I have absolutely no objection to Allopathic approaches when they work, but unalterably opposed to continuing the tired old remedies and therapies like cut, burn and poison for cancer and surgery being the only answer for clogged arteries. Count me in. Captain A. Manson, USN Rette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Dear Green and group: I have felt for a long while that traditional medical practitioners (in most fields of medicine) embrace the dis-eases that have overwhelmed our world. I applaud those physicians that actually want to assist in the healing process (as our bodies are their own doctors) even if it means using alternative methods. I recently heard something that made me shiver but at the same time didn't surprise me. It was that some of the illnesses that we contend with today were created by man and deliberately induced into the air. Does anyone know if there is any validity to this comment? This also triggered another thought that has to do with oxygen and air born dis-eases. I do believe that oxygen is healing and if we used our lungs full capacity that we would never know any illnesses, but how is it viruses and bacteria can survive the air? Is it because we don't have the air we once had due to the slaughter of the rain forests? Or because the air we breathe is disgustingly filthy? Does this mean that even if we did use our lungs to their full capacity that we would still contend with illness? Peace and love to you always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 >> Am I right in feeling that the medical/pharmicuitical industry are suppressing alternative methods of healing? << Dear , I believe you're absolutely right in your assessment. The evidence is overwhelming that this has been going on for at least the past 100 years. It's the only way mainstream medicine has been able to build and maintain supremacy of their obscenely expensive yet inferior medications and services, which are often not only ineffective, but actually harmful. Fortunately, a public grown impatient with such treatment is turning increasingly to holistic health care. It's satisfying to see medical clientele abandoning their MDs in droves and almost funny to watch mainstream medicine scramble to maintain a market share of this " bonanza " by offering their own version of " alternative " therapies. I say " almost " funny, because there is nothing funny about what's been going on. The use of wealth to corrupt the informational and regulatory organs of society for financial gain at the expense of the public health is a crime of major proportions and should be treated as such. At root, the mainstream medical cartel finds " alternative " therapies threatening because they are often unpatentable and inexpensive as well as effective. That's a mean combination to compete with, so they resort to unethical means. The unnecessary suffering caused by their mendacity and greed is incalculable. Green ~^~^~^~^ jilsrun@... wrote (on the e-groups OxyPlus list): I mentioned to a friend that I had been considering taking colloid silver. He advised against it. I sent him a paper on it and asked him why he would say that when there have been proven benefits. He sent me two web sites with the address of quackwatch. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.ht ml http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colloidalmineral s.html From what have been able to gather on this e-group, its the quackwatch that are the quacks. I would appreciate any feed back on this. Am I right in feeling that the medical/pharmicuitical industry are suppressing alternative methods of healing? It sounds like it to me, and its unfortunate because I think my friend is being brain washed like the rest of the healing industry (he's a dietitian at a well know natural health center). Let me know : ) Peace and love to you always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 Dear Green, You are correct in the sense that the money of the industry does overwhelms the truth and everything else. The first job in leadership is to discredit erroneous or false information. Unless false info is discredited it becomes with unlimited resources, the truth. False info must be supplanted by factual and truthful info and ways must be found to quickly get out factual and truthful data. The Internet offers a great tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Donna You're absolutely right that we should weigh up both sides of an argument before making decisions about our health. However, it might be better to listen to people who aren't at extreme ends of the spectrum and are always at each other's throats!!! Tim Bolen is Hulda 's spokesperson. Hulda has been pretty much dismissed by many people of all flavours. Bolen hates Barrett and vice versa. It's personal. All the best Chris Coventry, UK mailto:chris_rowbury@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Thanks - didn't know who Tim Bolen was but thought he was a little vehement. There has been a lot of stuff posted about Barrett on the metals and amalgam lists, but that one came flying through last night and I took the easy way out - rather than search through archives. I was more interested in basketball last night if you know what I mean. What I don't like about Barrett is the blatant attempts to demean all that is not allopathic. Why can't there be a recognition on both sides that there is more than enough room for everybody to practice medicine, even if they did team up? I mean, we're practically killing ourselves and our environment with no end in sight, and the number of ill people on this earth will only increase. Donna in NC - off my soapbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Would love to know more about Quackwatch being 'quackbusted'. Any details??????? Joanna Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: Is this quackwatch thing legit? It seems I have heard talk about the quackbusters being " quackbusted " . >Any info is appreciated. > > in Atlanta Well, anything OJ Simpson promoted.........enough said. No quackwatch is filled iwth quacks. yes they have been busted. ---------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 Is this quackwatch thing legit? It seems I have heard talk > about the quackbusters being " quackbusted " . > >Any info is appreciated. > > > > in Atlanta > > Well, anything OJ Simpson promoted.........enough said. > > No quackwatch is filled iwth quacks. yes they have been busted. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account > vaccineinfo@b... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 In einer eMail vom 08.04.03 14:38:48 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt gemini_0306@...: > can you folks give me some info on the 'Quackwatch site " ...how valid is > their info... > from what I gather, they are 'quacks' in their own way... > thanks, > Patti > > > > Dear Patti, here is information, clicking on <A HREF= " http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ " >www.quackpotwatch.org</A>, and then clicking on " The Quackbuster's Newest Victim - Wisconsin " Best, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 In einer eMail vom 08.04.03 14:38:48 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt gemini_0306@...: > can you folks give me some info on the 'Quackwatch site " ...how valid is > their info... > from what I gather, they are 'quacks' in their own way... > thanks, > Patti > > > > Dear Patti, here is information, clicking on <A HREF= " http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ " >www.quackpotwatch.org</A>, and then clicking on " The Quackbuster's Newest Victim - Wisconsin " Best, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 thanks so much Patti >From: TVA12082208@... >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Re: quackwatch >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:45:36 EDT > >In einer eMail vom 08.04.03 14:38:48 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit >schreibt >gemini_0306@...: > > > > can you folks give me some info on the 'Quackwatch site " ...how valid is > > their info... > > from what I gather, they are 'quacks' in their own way... > > thanks, > > Patti > > > > > > > > >Dear Patti, >here is information, >clicking on <A >HREF= " http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ " >www.quackpotwatch.org</A>, and then >clicking on " The Quackbuster's >Newest Victim - Wisconsin " >Best, >Katharina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 thanks so much Patti >From: TVA12082208@... >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Re: quackwatch >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:45:36 EDT > >In einer eMail vom 08.04.03 14:38:48 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit >schreibt >gemini_0306@...: > > > > can you folks give me some info on the 'Quackwatch site " ...how valid is > > their info... > > from what I gather, they are 'quacks' in their own way... > > thanks, > > Patti > > > > > > > > >Dear Patti, >here is information, >clicking on <A >HREF= " http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ " >www.quackpotwatch.org</A>, and then >clicking on " The Quackbuster's >Newest Victim - Wisconsin " >Best, >Katharina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You're right, Nonie. QuackWatch is thoroughly unethical and dishonest. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have actually written the story of my life to the guy who runs quack watch; he puts down alternative testing, alternative doctors and alternative anything! I have informed him, in the nicest possible way that those tests and doctors that he puts down have helped me to save myself! But remember, this guy used to work for the FDA, he probably gets paid big $$$$ by Big Pharma to do what he does! Mia From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Dennis Dvorak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM iodine Subject: RE: QuackWatch If you really want an eye-opener, research the progenitor of quack watch. This guy can't even hold a job. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Zachary Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:47 PM iodine Cc: nmsammymsn Subject: QuackWatch You're right, Nonie. QuackWatch is thoroughly unethical and dishonest. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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