Re: My hair is growing back

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That's awesome. Congrats!

Steph

My hair is growing back

I must be doing something right!My hair is growing back!Between the Iodine, the low dose of Armour, the magnesium and other stuff, I must be doing something right.I could do a jig right here by my desk.My hair has always been oily, extra thick, with a thick shaft, and curly curly, not kinky curly but medium tight curls, when it was short it would make a cap of curls all over. Well, I lost gobs of hair, and it got dull, baby fine, dry, limp, and lost its' curl. And it thinned out drastically especially on the top of my head. I really thought I would be bald before it was all over with. I could fish gobs of hair out of the shower drain every time I showered.Out of curiosity I had my daughter look at my scalp this evening, and she says I have all these short hairs growing!Dang that makes me feel happy. I'm gonna keep doing what I've been doing, and add a few more things, since it looks like I'm on the right track.Bethann-- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires.Abigail Van Buren

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Hello,Would you mind giving a little more information on what you are doing? I am desperate that I might become bald. My hair has always been oily and the hairs are very fine and limp. Now it is falling out and not growing back so that I can see my scalp through the hairs. I am willing to try anything to have my hair back.Regards,Lucia I must be doing something right!My hair is growing back!Between the Iodine, the low dose of Armour, the magnesium and other stuff, I must be doing something right.I could do a jig right here by my desk.My hair has always been oily, extra thick, with a thick shaft, and curly curly, not kinky curly but medium tight curls, when it was

short it would make a cap of curls all over. Well, I lost gobs of hair, and it got dull, baby fine, dry, limp, and lost its' curl. And it thinned out drastically especially on the top of my head. I really thought I would be bald before it was all over with. I could fish gobs of hair out of the shower drain every time I showered.Out of curiosity I had my daughter look at my scalp this evening, and she says I have all these short hairs growing!Dang that makes me feel happy. I'm gonna keep doing what I've been doing, and add a few more things, since it looks like I'm on the right track.Bethann-- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires.Abigail Van Buren------------------------------------

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Lucia:)

I'm following the Iodine Protocol, however I'm at

a low dose of iodine, I Herx badly on higher

doses. I have to increase very slowly.

I had blood work done and my TSH was high,

triglycerides were high, body temp was 97.6 and

the doc gave me a script for Armour thyroid.

I take NutriMeds adrenal plus, sometimes every

day, and sometimes every other day depending on

how I'm feeling, licorice root, Rhodiola Rosea,

coleus forskholi, and gensing, and guggul which I

haven't been taking as long as everything else. I

don't take all of them every day. I usually switch

out the gensing, licorice, rhodiola, and coleus,

every other day. And I take one day off a week

from everything that's not absolutely necessary. I

pay attention to what my bod is telling me, I vary

the dosage, and whether I take anything at all,

accordingly.

I take milk thistle for liver support and

protection. With all the toxins clearing the

system that's important.

I take Armour thyroid, Lugol's Iodine, magnesium,

selenium, R-ALA, vit C, Acetyl L Carnitine,vit D3,

a liquid B Complex, a probiotic, broad spectrum

digestive enzymes, turmeric, cinnulin, Omega 3 and

6's, gymne sylvestre, Garlic. Sea Salt or natural

red salt, it has iron in it.

I drink a lot more water, purified water, anywhere

from 100 - 128 oz a day.

I may have left some things out.

Oh yeah, I just started using baking soda to

alkalize. I overdid it a bit the first day or so,

so I skipped a couple of days, and then started

1/4 teaspoon in ten ounces of water twice daily.

But that's just been in the last week.

I was taking Raw Thyroid, and then switched to

NutriMeds porcine thyroid and Adrenal before I

started taking Lugol's, and it had kelp in it

which means Iodine. And the rest of it was due to

hours and hours, and days of research. And then

trial and error with combinations and different

things. Some worked and some didn't. I spent eight

months figuring out how much of what worked with

what, and what didn't, trial and error. I'm still

trying various new things. I keep what works and

discard the ones that don't.

And this stuff may, or may not, work the same for

you. Everyone has a different body chemistry going

on, so you may need different things.

I hope that made sense. I'm tired, so it may not.

Bethann

If we could sell our experiences for what they

cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

Abigail Van Buren

Lucia wrote:

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>

> Hello,

> Would you mind giving a little more information on what you are doing? I

> am desperate that I might become bald. My hair has always been oily and

> the hairs are very fine and limp. Now it is falling out and not growing

> back so that I can see my scalp through the hairs. I am willing to try

> anything to have my hair back.

> Regards,

> Lucia

>

>

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> I must be doing something right!

>

> My hair is growing back!

>

> Between the Iodine, the low dose of Armour, the

> magnesium and other stuff, I must be doing

> something right.

>

> I could do a jig right here by my desk.

>

> My hair has always been oily, extra thick, with a

> thick shaft, and curly curly, not kinky curly but

> medium tight curls, when it was short it would

> make a cap of curls all over. Well, I lost gobs of

> hair, and it got dull, baby fine, dry, limp, and

> lost its' curl. And it thinned out drastically

> especially on the top of my head. I really thought

> I would be bald before it was all over with. I

> could fish gobs of hair out of the shower drain

> every time I showered.

>

> Out of curiosity I had my daughter look at my

> scalp this evening, and she says I have all these

> short hairs growing!

>

> Dang that makes me feel happy. I'm gonna keep

> doing what I've been doing, and add a few more

> things, since it looks like I'm on the right track.

>

>

> Bethann

>

> --

> If we could sell our experiences for what they

> cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

> Abigail Van Buren

>

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[Guest guest]

Exactly what are you doing do you think, that is starting the regrowth?

Thanks Bethann.

Maybe you could post to me privately in lieu of it not being about Iodine

S

From: YardBirdMail

Date: 12/30/2009 12:06:57 AM

iodine

Subject: My hair is growing back

I must be doing something right!

My hair is growing back!

[Guest guest]

It has everything to do with Iodine, and

detoxifying, and anti oxidants.

I was taking an OTC supplement, Raw Thyroid, for

months that had kelp in it, not a large dose but

still iodine, without realizing the implications

of kelp = iodine. Not until I read the label again

one day, got curious about why they added kelp,

and started researching kelp which led me to

Lugol's iodine. Took three of four bottles of the

Raw Thyroid over a four month period before I

switched to another brand, but by then I'd found

Lugol's, done some research, and ordered a bottle.

I think it was during this period of time that my

hair loss slowed. At least I didn't notice as much

falling out anymore. I don't know when it started

growing in again.

The Iodine, and the R-ALA and vit C, and other

stuff I was already taking like licorice root,

that helps balance cortisol and other hormones,

probably contributed. And the other adaptogens,

like gensing, rhodiola rosea, coleus forskholi,

which nudges more T3 production. And guggul, which

isn't an adaptogen it nudges the the thyroid to do

more of its' thing, and milk thistle because I'm

taking all this crap, and the poor liver gets

dumped on.

I also stopped using processed sugar and started

using stevia, long before I did anything else, and

stevia was the first thing I ever used. It stopped

my ankles from swelling. But not the stuff with

lots of additives, sweetleaf works best, for me

anyway, followed by Swanson's brand in the box,

not the powder. Their loose powder has 'honey

powder' mixed in and I couldn't determine what the

honey powder was made from. I've also bought 1000

loose packets in a plastic bag, on Amazon when it

goes on sale. But that one is not as good as the

others for keeping the ankle swelling down. Can't

remember the brand right now, it's been a while.

Truvia is an absolute no no, It is mostly

erythritol with just a touch of Stevia. Not as

healthy as they're making it out to be. Erythritol

is an alcohol sugar and should be avoided if

there's a Candida problem. Even though it is

almost a zero on the glycemic scale, and is almost

calorie free.

I take gymne sylvestre for blood sugar balance,

and healing the pancreas, it also stimulates

insulin production. And I take (cinnamon

extract)cinnulin with each meal. Gymne has been

reported to help heal the cells of the pancreas.

Hypothyroid folks have glucose control problems a

lot of the time, and/or metabolic syndrome, and

the cells can become resistant to insulin.

Cinnulin has been proven to help increase cell

sensitivity to insulin.

I take a broad spectrum probiotic with about 15

different types of gut bacteria, and broad

spectrum digestive enzymes, sometimes with a meal,

and sometimes on an empty stomach.

I started those about two months ago.

I take Turmeric for any type of inflammatory

process that might be going on that I don't know

about. The whole spice powder, organic. Not that

circumin extract. The extract does nothing for me.

I'vr tried both and the whole spice just works a

lot better, for me anyway.

And clean purified water, I have increased my

water intake, purified or distilled water only. I

drink about 3/4 a gal to a gallon a day. I cut out

sodas, tea, milk, and fruit juices, everything

really except coffee. I'm still guilty of drinking

coffee. I've been hanging onto the coffee like a

drowning woman, LOL, maybe one day I'll be able to

give it up too. Oy, but not today!

And eating, I cut down on red meat, more chicken

and EGGS! I crave omelets. I've always eaten

veggies and I crave them now too. Especially

anything green leafy. LMAO a raw spinach salad

makes me drool! I try to eat several fruits every

day, organic. I try not to eat much bread, even

whole grain, though I occasionally eat a whole

wheat bread sandwich. And And I'm looking for a

bread making machine, so I can make my own and not

get all the garbage they put in bread now. I cut

out anything that might possibly have MSG,

aspartame, splenda, maltodextrose, or high

fructose corn syrup.

I stopped using any kind of commercially made

soap. I got Dr Bronner's bar soap and use it on my

hair as well, works great to clean without

stripping all the moisture, and makes my hair very

soft and non frizzy. I started making my own

laundry detergent, from bicarbonate of soda (I

think that's right), borax and feldman's soap. No

more fillers, or phosphates, or whatever is in the

stuff on the shelf.

I stumbled across emu oil and switched to that for

painful joints and muscles. In fact I use it

exclusively in place of any kind of lotion or

cream with chemicals in them. It's a natural anti

inflammatory and analgesic. It's a water loving

oil that penetrates all seven layers of skin. It

plumps up the skin wonderfully and doesn't leave a

greasy residue. I've used it as an oil treatment

for my scalp and hair. I sprained an ankle at one

point and the turmeric and the emu oil had the

swelling down in about 24 hours with minimal

bruising and very little pain. I sprained a knee

and same thing.

I stopped using commercial antiperspirants and

switched to a natural stone deodorant that works

great. I can even get it in a pump spray bottle.

And it's great for smelly feet and shoes.

I've even used it on funky smelling clothes

hampers. And musty smelling car seats, and couches.

I don't use the toxic crap they call cosmetics

ANYMORE, I can get eyeshadows, lipsticks, and such

made from just pure minerals and they work as well

or better than that other toxic junk. They cost

about the same and a lot of times less. I don't

use fingernail polish. I refuse to put that

chemical soup on my nails.

The Iodine I have found is one of the pivotal

things I take. And all the rest would work and did

work, and improved the way I felt up to a point,

but it all works much much better with the

addition of Iodine. And the low dose of thyroid meds.

And all this didn't magically appear and happen

over night. Figueing out the supplements has taken

more than a year, closer to two, and some eight or

nine months of fiddling with the dosages of stuff

I was adding. The other stuff I've changed over a

three or four years. It's been a huge, long,

frustrating, trial and error experiment. I can't

tell you how many things I tried that worked for

other people but did not work for me, and did

nothing but leave me disappointed and gloomy:/

I spent whole days, day after day, reading online,

watching videos, listening to radio interviews and

podcasts, looking up research studies, and papers

and trying to keep up with the latest information,

researching ingredients in products, supplements

and other. I still do, and I still don't know

everything. I doubt I ever will. It's been a very

long tiring road, and the battle is not won yet.

The best advice I can give you, is read, read, and

read some more. This group has excellent

resources, and so do the thyroid groups. Make sure

what you're reading is from a reputable source

with some real research behind it. And then try a

few things to see how it goes, don't add

everything at once. Add one thing at a time and

pay attention to what your body is telling you.

Give each addition three or four days or a week to

see how it works with everything else. Thyroid

effecting things can take as long as three months,

and even longer, of use before you see any

results. Same for the adrenals. But the length of

time varies from person to person. The body

doesn't get messed up all of a sudden but over

time, and it will take time and effort to get back

to well. There is no magic formula, no certain

combination of anything, just determination,

diligence, and knowledge about the things causing

the body to be out of balance, so you can

eliminate them and use things that don't poison you.

Some things work synergistically and you have to

reduce a few things when you add something new.

That takes some knowledge of what you're taking

and how it works. And keep a log of what you take

and when, and how you react to it. That way you

don't have to remember what combination you took,

and when. I called mine my mad scientist book

It's the same thing as a lab log where the

scientist writes down actions and results, only

you are experimenting on yourself.

Whatever you do, go slow and be cautious. Herbs

are potent things and so are vitamins and such.

Just because you can buy them OTC doesn't mean

they are harmless if you take too much, or combine

the wrong things. Many of the pharma drugs we have

today were extracted from plants.

So I believe it's a combination of things I've

been doing over time that's done it. And it's just

a sign post telling me I'm going in the right

direction. I haven't arrived yet. There's still

quite a journey ahead. There is no magical

concoction, or certain steps I did or did not do.

Just research and finding what worked for me

through lots of trial and error.

I hope I answered your question. That's the best

explanation I have.

Bethann

If we could sell our experiences for what they

cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

Abigail Van Buren

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> Exactly what are you doing do you think, that is starting the regrowth?

> Thanks Bethann.

> Maybe you could post to me privately in lieu of it not being about Iodine

> S

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Hello Bethann,

Thank you so much for your very detailed and informative reply. Everything made perfect sense.

Of course I know that not everything works the same for everyone, but I needed to have a good starting point for my investigations. Now I have stuff to research that will last me a long time.

Thanks again. Have a Happy New Year!

My best,

Lucia

Lucia:)I'm following the Iodine Protocol, however I'm at a low dose of iodine, I Herx badly on higher doses. I have to increase very slowly.BethannLucia wrote:> > > Hello,> Would you mind giving a little more information on what you are doing?

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Bethann,

A big hearty Congratulations to you!

That was truly an amazing report of your untiring work and effort, personal

research and experimentation over those years. And the best thing is it is

working for you. What a nice way to start the New Year! Keep up the great

work!

I think I'll try the R-ALA. I keep hearing so much about that. I'm pretty

much all natural on

everything else as well, but there are still some things to try on my list.

Thank you!

Sasha

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As a sidebar: MSM is given to sheep to improve their wool production. It also

helps with joint pain and is used by many arthritis sufferers.

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I took MSM for a while as part of my whole protocol. Don't remember if it did anything but I figured out it gave me a stomach ache so after a few months I quit taking it.

Steph

Re: My hair is growing back

As a sidebar: MSM is given to sheep to improve their wool production. It also helps with joint pain and is used by many arthritis sufferers.>> I must be doing something right!> > My hair is growing back!> > ....

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I took MSM for years before I knew I was hypoT. It cured almost all of my

symptoms, which I now know were hypoT symptoms. It stopped working once I

became post menopausal. I took 1/4 tsp daily and then increased my dosage up to

1 tbl daily. I since have learned that smaller quantities are better than

larger. There is a 'rumor' that it can affect the kidneys. I only had good

results from it. My body doesn't seem to need it anymore. Ray Peat says its

antithyroid but I don't agree with him.

Joan

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> I took MSM for a while as part of my whole protocol. Don't remember if it did

anything but I figured out it gave me a stomach ache so after a few months I

quit taking it.

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> Steph

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No. No.Post publicly for the rest of us losing hair.It's related to iodine because it all comes from our thyroid problems.~Bonnie

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Exactly what are you doing do you think, that is starting the regrowth?

Maybe you could post to me privately in lieu of it not being about Iodine

 

 

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Masking underlying health issues is a downside of high-dosing MSM. I usually

only take it in the MSM/Emergen-C packs these days.

>> I took MSM for years before I knew I was hypoT. ... I only had good results

from it. My body doesn't seem to need it anymore. Ray Peat says its

antithyroid but I don't agree with him.

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did anything but I figured out it gave me a stomach ache so after a few months I

quit taking it.

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I can't claim to know everything there is to know about MSM, but one of its functions is to supply the body with sulfur, which is used for one of the detox pathways. NAC & (I believe) alpha lipoic acid also supply sulfur, as does the new product OSR... For those who can't tolerate MSM, one of the sulfur-based product might offer an alternative? (Suggesting this as a subject for research, rather than a fact.)AnneOn Dec 31, 2009, at 10:49 AM, owlsplace wrote: Masking underlying health issues is a downside of high-dosing MSM. I usually only take it in the MSM/Emergen-C packs these days. >> I took MSM for years before I knew I was hypoT. ... I only had good results from it. My body doesn't seem to need it anymore. Ray Peat says its antithyroid but I don't agree with him. > > Joan > > - > > I took MSM for a while as part of my whole protocol. Don't remember if it did anything but I figured out it gave me a stomach ache so after a few months I quit taking it. > > > > Steph > > >

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I don't think of it that way. It helps the metabolism, like eating coconut oil.

Just that alone can heal the body. It healed my body in many ways.

Joan

> Masking underlying health issues is a downside of high-dosing MSM. I usually

only take it in the MSM/Emergen-C packs these days.

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MSM--I found that if hubby takes 3 daily that he stops snoring. He used to be heard outside house at other end. We were on vacation for 2 weeks and his snoring came back as he didn't take MSM or fish oil with him. The fish oil helped him to drop 42 points in cholesterol from 253 to 211 in  6-8 months. I have been doing some diet changes with him and he lost 25 pounds during that time too. I take 5 MSM for pain and it seems to cut my pain in half. I have FM, RA and degenerative spine and rear ended twice in 2 years by drunk drivers. Pam

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I don't think of it that way. It helps the metabolism, like eating coconut oil. Just that alone can heal the body. It healed my body in many ways.

Joan

> Masking underlying health issues is a downside of high-dosing MSM. I usually only take it in the MSM/Emergen-C packs these days.

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Well, isnt that interesting. I never heard that MSM is good for treating

snoring... I buy mine from a health food co op in a powder and I mix about a

spoon full with water and take some almost everyday, to help my lungs, I used to

have pneumonia. from a freezing cold Columbus Ohio, we won the Rose Bowl

Game, go buckeyes

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Where do you get MSM and what strength? I get some supplements from LEF, and

they have it but not sure if there is a certain form that is better than others.

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