Re: Voice getting worse (can't sing any more) and still putting on weight

[Guest guest]

Hi

Sorry to hear youhave been getting the runaround from the doc. Not

unusual unfortunately.

I believe there is a protocol in the files section on how to increase

your Armour, I am on T3 only now for some time so cannot remember it

offhand.

I was struck by your comment about your voice mine started to go a

month or so ago. I always liked a warble and to my shock horror of

late I find I keep creaking and cannot reach notes I could reach very

easily up until now.

Any idea what causes this exactly? Anyone else have this problem?

Mo

>

> I was first diagnosed with hypothyroidism about 2 years ago. TSH

> came back as 44.8 but I had been putting on weight and losing my

> singing voice for a year or two before but had no idea what the

> problem was.

> Doc put me on 25mcg of thyroxine and was reluctant to increase the

> dose but I argued until I got him to increase to 100mcg over a

> period of 12 months.

>

> I still have symptoms, hoarse voice, weight gain, depression but

the

> doctor implied that I'm going round the bend and offered anti

> depressants (all because the tsh level was down to 3.5 so I must be

> OK).

> It doesn't help that I am going through the menopause as well, lots

> of hot flushes but I have decided to finally go on HRT as I can't

> take 3 hot flushes every hour any more. The HRT is helping that

area

> but my last blood test showed a TSH of 12.2 and I still have the

> croaky voice

> (I couldn't scream if my life depended on it)and the weight is

still

> going up.

>

> Now, in desperation I decided to try Armour Thyroid as my doctor

has

> no suggestions (not even to increase the thyroxine which I'm not

> sure

> would help anyway). I have been monitoring my basal temp and it

> moves between 35.8 c to 36.5 c with a pulse rate of 55 - 60 so I

> think I still have the slow metabolism and hypothyroid problem.

>

> The thing is now, I'm not sure how much armour to take and I'm not

> sure what the doctor will say if he finds out.

>

> Has anyone else had a problem with singing voice and is there any

> hope that it might come back or that weight might reduce if I stick

> to the armour. I am taking 2 x 30g tablets but thinking of

> increasing.

>

> Any comments would be appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

I used to be in the Church Choir when I was young, but now, I only ever sing when there is nobody in ear-shot. I cannot reach high notes and now generally sing out of tune. I have to really try hard to sing in tune. You really don't want to hear this voice in song (

Luv - Sheila

I was struck by your comment about your voice mine started to go a month or so ago. I always liked a warble and to my shock horror of late I find I keep creaking and cannot reach notes I could reach very easily up until now.Any idea what causes this exactly? Anyone else have this problem?Mo

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[Guest guest]

I used to be in a pagan choir but I had to stop going to practice as my

voice went completely. I went to the GP and asked if it was related to

Hypo and of course was told, " No of course not, you relate everything

to your thyroid and it can't be resposible for everything! "

???? Silly woman!! I know other sufferers who have lost their singing

voices too, even though I have been on Armour since Feb / March it

still hasn't come back and I still have a very hoarse voice, especially

in the mornings.

" I used to be in the Church Choir when I was young, but now, I only

ever sing when there is nobody in ear-shot. "

Luv - Sheila

" late I find I keep creaking and cannot reach notes I could reach very

easily up until now. "

Any idea what causes this exactly? Anyone else have this problem?

[Guest guest]

Hi you former singers,

I lost confidence in using a microphone few years ago, and put the

problem down to hypoT. I decided it was part of the loss of muscle tone

that we often get, and that was why I had lost control of my voice and

couldn't pitch it correctly. I now find my singing voice more

acceptable for " personal " use (ie audience of me) but haven't tried a

microphone yet. my speaking voice is a bit gruff though. it has been

improving too. People often ask if I have a cold though. I am hoping

that with excercise and the more effective combinations of meds and

supps that it will improve and I will try a little recording and see if

the singing is bearable for anyone else to hear.

I really miss singing. Now my memory is significantly recovered, it is

the thing I miss most.

Luv

croaky Kat

[Guest guest]

I am also a singer and in a church choir. Actually we just performed

" The Armed Man " by your fellow England citizen Karl . Anyway,

I also had problems with my voice before I found I have a Reverse T3

problem. NOw that I am addressing this and my adrenals, I am starting

to get my voice back to its powerful self.

Venizia

>

> Hi you former singers,

>

> I lost confidence in using a microphone few years ago, and put the

> problem down to hypoT. I decided it was part of the loss of muscle tone

> that we often get, and that was why I had lost control of my voice and

> couldn't pitch it correctly. I now find my singing voice more

> acceptable for " personal " use (ie audience of me) but haven't tried a

> microphone yet. my speaking voice is a bit gruff though. it has been

> improving too. People often ask if I have a cold though. I am hoping

> that with excercise and the more effective combinations of meds and

> supps that it will improve and I will try a little recording and see if

> the singing is bearable for anyone else to hear.

>

> I really miss singing. Now my memory is significantly recovered, it is

> the thing I miss most.

>

> Luv

> croaky Kat

>

[Guest guest]

Oh well thank you for that encouraging thought Venizia. I would hate

not to be able to sing any more. It gives me the greatest pleasure

just to warble away to myself.

Mo

>

> I am also a singer and in a church choir. Actually we just

performed

> " The Armed Man " by your fellow England citizen Karl .

Anyway,

> I also had problems with my voice before I found I have a Reverse T3

> problem. NOw that I am addressing this and my adrenals, I am

starting

> to get my voice back to its powerful self.

>

> Venizia

[Guest guest]

Venizia:

How did you find out about having reverse T3? are you in NHS care or

out of UK? (Seem to remember you are out of UK)

I am hoping I can ask for my GP to test for stored ferritin next time I

see him, but really, I just don't want to see him and am wondering

about just going NPTECH route and self treating. The last thing I want

is the posibility of a reduction in T4 script, though I suppose I will

have to go for a routine blood test at some time.

Kat

> > I am also a singer and in a church choir. Actually we just

> performed

> > " The Armed Man " by your fellow England citizen Karl .

> Anyway,

> > I also had problems with my voice before I found I have a Reverse T3

> > problem. NOw that I am addressing this and my adrenals, I am

> starting

> > to get my voice back to its powerful self.

> >

> > Venizia

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kat!

I am in the U.S. I was having a lot of hypo symptoms with a high T4

and a high T3. I had a reverse T3 test which is difficult here in

the U.S. to find a doctor to do it but I insisted. When you have a

reverse T3 test done you also want to have a Free T3 test done at the

same time. You then would divide the two numbers from each test result

to get a ratio. If you get a number above 20 you are within a good

range. Anything under 20 needs to be addressed. My ratio was 10.5, not

good. If you google " reverse T3 " you will come up with a lot of info.

So right now I am on only T3. T4 meds will just turn into Reverse T3

so one HAS to be off of all T4 meds and just take T3 which will get

rid of the T4 in the body. So what is happening is T4 was turning

into Reverse T3 instead of T3 and not getting into my cells, hence all

the hypo symptoms. I am also addressing an adrenal issue so this is

very difficult to manage and can take time. Hope this helps and does

not confuse you.

Venizia

>

> Venizia:

>

> How did you find out about having reverse T3? are you in NHS care or

> out of UK? (Seem to remember you are out of UK)

>

> I am hoping I can ask for my GP to test for stored ferritin next time I

> see him, but really, I just don't want to see him and am wondering

> about just going NPTECH route and self treating. The last thing I want

> is the posibility of a reduction in T4 script, though I suppose I will

> have to go for a routine blood test at some time.

>

> Kat

>

> > > I am also a singer and in a church choir. Actually we just

> > performed

> > > " The Armed Man " by your fellow England citizen Karl .

> > Anyway,

> > > I also had problems with my voice before I found I have a Reverse T3

> > > problem. NOw that I am addressing this and my adrenals, I am

> > starting

> > > to get my voice back to its powerful self.

> > >

> > > Venizia

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hiya

Sorry to hear you are suffering this too. I totally believe the answer

about the muscles is spot on. My voice goes croakier the more tired I

am. It has got worse the more hypo I am too. Don't listen to doc,

hoarseness is a very recognised symptom of hypo

lotsa luv

Dawnx