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I try to do abs every day ... sometimes I'm too wiped after cardio but usually I

do them!

exercise question

Yes i know that Bill mentions to workout abs when you do lower body

but should you be doing it every day or just the days you do lower body.

Usually they tell you to get the ab thing going you have to overtrain them.

So what do most of you guys do abs everyday or only the days on lower body

workouts. thanks.

Linet

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I know there are people who will beg to differ on this but I don't

think it hurts abs to work them every day. I did this for months when

I began BFL and only recently have cut it back to every other. By all

means if they are sore let them rest and don't work again till they

recover. For the most part abs are very rapidly reoxygenating and can

stand the abuse, and rarely need much time between sets either. The

trick is, whatever bodypart you're going to work that day, do the abs

first.

Stasia

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lilimama@... wrote:

> Yes i know that Bill mentions to workout abs when you do lower body

> but should you be doing it every day or just the days you do lower body.

> Usually they tell you to get the ab thing going you have to overtrain them.

> So what do most of you guys do abs everyday or only the days on lower body

> workouts. thanks.

>

> Linet

Abs, just like every other muscle, need time to heal and recover/rebuild

between workouts. If you work them every day you'll risk overworking them and

start seeing less progress. :) Check out the Q and A section of

http://www.eas.com :)

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kuranes wrote:

> lilimama@... wrote:

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> > Yes i know that Bill mentions to workout abs when you do lower body

> > but should you be doing it every day or just the days you do lower body.

> > Usually they tell you to get the ab thing going you have to overtrain them.

> > So what do most of you guys do abs everyday or only the days on lower body

> > workouts. thanks.

> >

> > Linet

>

> Abs, just like every other muscle, need time to heal and recover/rebuild

> between workouts. If you work them every day you'll risk overworking them and

> start seeing less progress. :) Check out the Q and A section of

> http://www.eas.com :)

> Serenity

Ack! I forgot to say one thing here, Linet :) If you're working your abs to

complete muscle failure and really hitting your tens you probably won't be able

to

work them out more frequently :) I know I can't!

Serenity

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> I know there are people who will beg to differ on this but I don't

> think it hurts abs to work them every day. I did this for months when

> I began BFL and only recently have cut it back to every other. By all

> means if they are sore let them rest and don't work again till they

> recover. For the most part abs are very rapidly reoxygenating and can

> stand the abuse, and rarely need much time between sets either. The

> trick is, whatever bodypart you're going to work that day, do the abs

> first.

>

> Stasia

Hiya Stasia :) Have you tried doing your ab work with weights? I've been

told it's... um.. fun :)

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Yea I used to balance one on my upper chest but kind of had a hard

time doing it. Then I heard that doing abs with weights(don't know if

it's true or not) would make your midsection " thick?? " so I quit. So

I went to using a decline board instead. But I really didn't give the

weight trial long enough to see whether or not it would make my

midsection thick.

Stasia

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s_bachrach wrote:

> Yea I used to balance one on my upper chest but kind of had a hard

> time doing it. Then I heard that doing abs with weights(don't know if

> it's true or not) would make your midsection " thick?? " so I quit. So

> I went to using a decline board instead. But I really didn't give the

> weight trial long enough to see whether or not it would make my

> midsection thick.

>

> Stasia

I haven't tried it at all. LOL. It seems too scary :) A friend on another

list does though and seems to be doing wonderfully. I'm in awe personally.

I've heard that Declines are GREAT and also working with a swedish ball for

crunches is a killer too. I haven't personally progressed from normal

crunches and side crunches. Those still kick my.. abs. :)

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Oh yea, don't forget about reverse crunches on a decline board. Lie

with feet on the downhill side and crunch your knees up to your

chest. Ouch.

Stasia

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I do them every other day, prolly not supposed to, but 'oh well'.

Astra

exercise question

Yes i know that Bill mentions to workout abs when you do lower body

but should you be doing it every day or just the days you do lower body.

Usually they tell you to get the ab thing going you have to overtrain them.

So what do most of you guys do abs everyday or only the days on lower body

workouts. thanks.

Linet

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Good advice Stasia. I'm going to do my ab bootcamp before my cardio from

now on since that's every other day. I'm usually too tired after lower body

workout because of those killer lunges!

Re: exercise question

I know there are people who will beg to differ on this but I don't

think it hurts abs to work them every day. I did this for months when

I began BFL and only recently have cut it back to every other. By all

means if they are sore let them rest and don't work again till they

recover. For the most part abs are very rapidly reoxygenating and can

stand the abuse, and rarely need much time between sets either. The

trick is, whatever bodypart you're going to work that day, do the abs

first.

Stasia

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Can someone give me some good ab exercises? I am currently doing crunches and

reverse crunches using an ab roller with weights. I doubt I am hitting my 9's

OR 10's as I'm very rarely sore. HELP???

Rita

Re: exercise question

I know there are people who will beg to differ on this but I don't

think it hurts abs to work them every day. I did this for months when

I began BFL and only recently have cut it back to every other. By all

means if they are sore let them rest and don't work again till they

recover. For the most part abs are very rapidly reoxygenating and can

stand the abuse, and rarely need much time between sets either. The

trick is, whatever bodypart you're going to work that day, do the abs

first.

Stasia

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Stasia, I always use resistance on my ab workouts - medicine balls, cable

crunches, plates on my chest, holding a dumbbell between my feet on hanging abs.

The only thing I avoid training with heavy resistance is my obliques.

Technically if you make your obliques bigger, you make your waist wider. Don't

wanna do that! :-) The rest of it just makes my abs " bumpier " (?!) so they stand

out better. I've learned that the more developed those muscles are, the more

reasonable my body fat can be and still see abs.

Re: exercise question

Yea I used to balance one on my upper chest but kind of had a hard

time doing it. Then I heard that doing abs with weights(don't know if

it's true or not) would make your midsection " thick?? " so I quit. So

I went to using a decline board instead. But I really didn't give the

weight trial long enough to see whether or not it would make my

midsection thick.

Stasia

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ribar wrote:

> Can someone give me some good ab exercises? I am currently doing crunches and

reverse crunches using an ab roller with weights. I doubt I am hitting my 9's

OR 10's as I'm very rarely sore. HELP???

> Rita

Hiya Rita :) I do side crunches and they really are.. fun. :P I've heard that

crunches with a swedish ball are fantastic too! Then Stasia's so right that

declines are hellish and.. um.. you can hold

weights across your chest for more intensity (or a child or cat!) and, last of

all, try holding the crunch longer in the up position. Boy does that do it for

me!

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Thanx Serenity... I just came from doing my cardios and did my abs afterwards.

I really came down slowly and watched my breathing and it felt much better. But

still not sore! lol

Rita

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ribar wrote:

> Can someone give me some good ab exercises? I am currently doing crunches

and reverse crunches using an ab roller with weights. I doubt I am hitting my

9's OR 10's as I'm very rarely sore. HELP???

> Rita

Hiya Rita :) I do side crunches and they really are.. fun. :P I've heard

that crunches with a swedish ball are fantastic too! Then Stasia's so right

that declines are hellish and.. um.. you can hold

weights across your chest for more intensity (or a child or cat!) and, last

of all, try holding the crunch longer in the up position. Boy does that do it

for me!

Serenity

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The only thing I avoid training with heavy resistance is my obliques.

> Technically if you make your obliques bigger, you make your waist

wider. Don't...........<<<

Question about this statement.... I am new and have heard this

before.. was wondering if you do not train the obliques then doesnt

this do something about the core or back strength? Like maybe hinder

the strength in them?? I need all the lower back strength I can get.

gypsi

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You definately need to train your obliques, this statement just means

don't train them with heavy resistance. So, for example, you could

do a bicycle crunch, which would hit your obliques and just use your

body weight as resistance, but not a cross-over crunch with the cable

machine, because then you'd be using lots of resistance. I'm not

sure as to whether or not this statement is valid, that's just the

difference between the 2!

> The only thing I avoid training with heavy resistance is my

obliques.

> > Technically if you make your obliques bigger, you make your waist

> wider. Don't...........<<<

>

> Question about this statement.... I am new and have heard this

> before.. was wondering if you do not train the obliques then doesnt

> this do something about the core or back strength? Like maybe

hinder

> the strength in them?? I need all the lower back strength I can get.

>

> gypsi

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As long as you didn't make too big of a jump (say, going from 10s to

20s without trying the 12s or 15s) stay with the higher weight. It's

better to try a challenging weight and not quite make all the reps

than to stay with something that's obviously feeling too easy.

It takes a few workouts to get a feel for the weights you need to use.

You want the last few reps to be very challenging, especially on the

heavier sets, but you don't want a weight so heavy that you can't use

good form, or so heavy that you can only get a tiny fraction of the

reps you were aiming for. If you were going for 8 reps and you can

only do 2, you need to back it down to something a little lighter, but

if you're going for 8 reps and you get 6 or 7, that's a pretty good

weight. You'll probably get all 8 on your next workout.

Remember that the first sets of 12 and 10 serve as your warm-up. The

last couple of reps should be challenging on those, but there

shouldn't be any question that you're going to make it. By the time

you get to the heaviest sets of 8 and 6, it should be a major,

muscle-shaking struggle to crank out the last couple of reps. Maybe

you don't always make it but it's better to hit a definite 10 a couple

of reps short than to finish the set easily.

On 9/8/05, n <mtpaper@...> wrote:

> I'm sure this will be obvious to me once I get your answers, but here

> goes. I'm on the 4th day of my 2nd week.

>

> Let's say I do a set of exercises at one set of weight increments and I

> don't have trouble doing them, and I don't reach a level 10 intensity.

> Then, the next time I do the same set of exercises, at an increased weight,

> and I cannot finish the high weight repetitions.

>

> Should I go back down to the lower weights?

> Or stay with the higher weights, because I'll build up to being able to do

> the full # of repetitions?

>

> Thanks!

> n

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Once again, thank you . This was exactly what I expected, but I

wanted/needed the reassurance.

I'm just back from my 3rd lower body workout..... during my db lunges, my

left quad 'gave out' while I was putting my right foot forward. It was so

odd, since I know that I'm working the right quad when I put the right foot

forward - yet it was the left quad that didn't want to cooperate...... I

was able to continue to do the lunges by putting my left foot forward.

We'll see what next week brings. And I'll keep in mind - progress not

perfection.

n

At 11:02 AM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

>As long as you didn't make too big of a jump (say, going from 10s to

>20s without trying the 12s or 15s) stay with the higher weight. It's

>better to try a challenging weight and not quite make all the reps

>than to stay with something that's obviously feeling too easy.<SNIP>

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I've faced the same issue. I think that the fat loss from lipo will

not really be made worse from doing more cardio. If you have any

belly fat, aerobic excercise might help with that.

I think the benefits of cardio type excercise can't be

underestimated, especially for those of us with HIV.

Go for it.

JB

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I've faced the same issue. I think that the fat loss from lipo will

not really be made worse from doing more cardio. If you have any

belly fat, aerobic excercise might help with that.

I think the benefits of cardio type excercise can't be

underestimated, especially for those of us with HIV.

Go for it.

JB

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I can only speak from my experience. I'm a pear shaped dude with thin limbs and fat belly. I had a great bubble butt before I started working out. When I started taking meds and also got off the methamphetamine, my body changed. I gained weight, belly got fatter, and limbs, while technically bigger, were jiggly. I immediately started working out and eating better, and that was over a year and a half ago. I work out almost every day of the week. I do the treadmill (with incline, without incline, walking, running, etc). Then about every other day I do all the machines and occasionally lift weights and incorporate free weights into my workout. I haven't stopped the above workout in over a year. I went from #208 of unhealthy blubber around my waist, to a much sexier #180 I can live with. My gorgeous bubble butt is gone. It's still hot, but in a much

leaner muscular way. I miss it. But I feel great! I have so much more energy now that while on meth. I was scared the drugs would mess me up so that's why I'm so determined to get on this and don't stop. I ran two miles tonight up an incline and it felt great. I look better naked, and I have more confidence. Looks aren't everything, but if you work out you will look better. You'll feel better. Do it for you, not for those that will be envious of you! And they will! Good Luck. Sam guyinsouthala@...guyinsouthala@...guyinsouthala@...

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This sounds very much like INNER EAR congestion to me. Either infection or

chronic damage

from past infections (and/or allergic congestion). It's something I'd pay

attention to lest it get

worse and go into the other, deeper sinuses. Could also result in deafness if

left untreated.

A few of the good options

1) Neti Pot

2) Saunas and/or steam with eucalyptus

3) Cranio-Sacral Rx

4) Reflexology

5) Homeopathy

6) Ear candles (repeatedly)

7) Allergy work (air filters, diet, exercise, breathing exercises, yoga)

8) Weight loss (if indicated)

9) Chinese Herbs

10) And, this one worked for my daughter who had the same thing:

Read: THE YEAST CONNECTION

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> I sometimes get nausea when exercising on my back, such as situps or

> crunches. The same thing was happening to me last year, but I

stopped

> doing those exercises for the winter. Has anybody heard of such a

> problem or how to help it? When I was in junior high school I

> experienced some nausea when doing somersaults.

It can be caused by multiple different things.

1. Inner ear (as Will stated)

2.Vascular issues

3.Upper cervical subluxation (aka neck problem)

Both # 1 and 3 respond well to Chiropractic ajustments. Vascular

issues are such a wide range but many of these issues can be ruled out

very simply.

Dr.

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Thanks for all the information!

, I'm reminded that I believe it was Satchel Paige who said " when I

feels like exercisin', I lays down 'til the feelin' gets over me! "

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I have a gluten/cows milk allergy combo. I get the ear congestion stuff like

that. Sometimes when I " cheat " on these loud noises make me ear make a

crackling noise.

andrea

calcitanium <calcitanium@...> wrote:

I sometimes get nausea when exercising on my back, such as situps or

crunches. The same thing was happening to me last year, but I stopped

doing those exercises for the winter. Has anybody heard of such a

problem or how to help it? When I was in junior high school I

experienced some nausea when doing somersaults.

Thanks very much.

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