Re: O Hubby's heart problems

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In a message dated 6/13/2005 3:54:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

g_heddy@... writes:

So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

uninformed doctors?

Yep, I sure did. Don't ask them what you should eat and they won't bring it

up. Nurses will. To a cardiologist you're just a lab animal anyway. I think

they get startled when you speak because they're used to unconscious patients.

I was in a cardiac rehab group being lectured to by a nurse one time and she

asked what everybody ate. I told her I ate fat red meat two to three times a

day. She backed away from me like I was Dracula and she was a priest and then

she said, " and what's YOUR cholesterol level? " . I said 122. She changed the

subject.

By the way, I'm no expert but I believe that high cholesterol is an

indication of some greater problem and it's probably diet related. Of course,

there

was the old couple I knew who were well into their 90s and their cholesterol had

always been over 400.

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The other advice about dealing with healthcare providers and their dietary

advice is good. I just wanted to add that my cholesterol, LDL,

triglycerides, weight and glucose levels have all gone down, and my HDL has

gone up with the BTD (they were borderline before, now they're pretty much

optimal). The closer to the non-secretor plan, the better (of course I am a

nonnie), and wheat avoidance with overall low grain intake is vital.

Make sure his thyroid levels are good, too.

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O Hubby's heart problems

Over the last 10 year or so, my husband's heart has had a few

episodes of racing. But in the past few months, it has happened

several times, plus other symptoms of heart problems. His job is very

stressful and he's gained a lot of weight over the past two years.

Well, He *finally* got worried enough to go to a cardiologist to get

diagnosed with SVT, and had all the blood work done to see what else

is going on.

He got a copy of the results - he's not talked to any doctor about it

yet, but we can see that his cholesterol is just over the edge

of 'high', his cortisol levels are the same, and his fasting blood

sugar was also just over the edge of normal. He figures he's in the

running for heart disease, though it's not confirmed yet. Both of his

parents (an A and an O) died of diabetes related heart problems.

He was talking with his sister who has been recently diagnosed with

high blood pressure, and she was telling him (like he didn't know

already) that he needed to lose weight by (you guessed it) eating

more grains, veggies and less meat. Now he knows better, having

followed the basics of the ER4YT woe for several years - though not

particularly strict.

I figure the cardiologist (and/or any nutritionalist he is sent to

for his weight problem - he's very heavy right now) will give him

the 'heart healthy' close-to-vegetarian diet similar to his sister's.

This will not be good for him as he is an O.

So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

uninformed doctors?

TIA,

Greta the B

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In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:13:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

SJlorrie@... writes:

So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

uninformed doctors?

TIA,

Greta the B

I don't know where your husband is on the trail of heart problems but his

body is obviously telling him something. My body had been telling me things for

years. I was a smoker, overweight, and buried in stress when I started

filling up with water and I ended up in CCU. Turned out I had an enlarged

heart.

No heart attack but I still had a rock on my chest. Suddenly I didn't want to

smoke anymore and my stressful problems disappeared. Being terrified does

that. Literally, my good health dissolved in a heartbeat (drum roll). I

couldn't walk 50 feet. In rehab it took me two weeks just to walk on treadmill

for 5

minutes. The doctor save my life, gave me the long look, dumped a variety of

drugs on me, and pretty much cut me loose as " managed care " . It was a battle

because he had to convince me to take certain meds and we finally worked it

out. I can't tell you how hard it is to get a cardiologist to talk in whole

sentences.

What I have is supposed to be degenerative and the mortality rate in 5 years

is 39%. I work out and walk and wait for my heart to heal (doctors say that

heart cells don't regenerate but I don't believe it). It's been 7+ and I feel

great. I'm regaining my health one breath at a time. It is not easy. I may

even be able to run someday. There is no question that it's this diet that has

helped me to improve. It really is a life ring in a sea of confusion.

Regardless of what his results are, your husband needs to change his

lifestyle right now. I realize that it may be very hard to do but, trust me,

it's

easy to change after you're staring death in the face. I was too stupid and

didn't have time to see it until God put his thumb on my chest and I suddenly

had

all the time in the world. Sorry, didn't mean to preach. I feel for all of

you.

Max

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In a message dated 6/13/2005 9:28:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bloggertypeo@... writes:

The closer to the non-secretor plan, the better (of course I am a

nonnie), and wheat avoidance with overall low grain intake is vital.

I find that even when I eat rice it affects me. If I don't have a lot of

protein/fat to go with the rice, I feel miserable.

Max the nonnie

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So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

uninformed doctors?

TIA,

Greta the B

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Hi Greta - yes after my heart attack in Nov 2002 my Cardiologist signed

me up for a class with Cardiac Nurse who followed each ones progress

thru the year. We reported on food eaten, etc and took Lipid tests

monthly.

I informed the Nurse I ate according to my blood type and would not

limit my red meat to 3 x week as I ate meat protein 3 x a day, plus

fresh veggies and fruits. Also told her I could not eat the grains in

the heart diet. She accepted that and evaluated my monthly reports

thruout the whole year without further insistence. I did cut down on

salt (I use sea salt when needed) and tried their 'heart healthy " ??

spreds but quickly reverted back to butter.

For awhile I felt like I was split between ER and Heart Diet. Your

hubby must be aware of his own body, its needs and do research to

enable asking pertinent questions re his health. Never just accept as

gospel everything a Dr or Nurse says.

I still must take heart medications but I eat the ER way. (7 years now)

I have 4 daughters 3 of which are now on ER as are their spouses and one

grand daughter.

Re: Tests : CRP-hs and Homocysteine are probably better indicators of a

pending Heart Attack than is Cholesterol.

lorrie - O sec

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g_heddy wrote:

> So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

> conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

> uninformed doctors?

Selective deafness :-))

Doctors are not trained in clinical nutrition and it takes too long to

train them - not my job anyway. I say thank you and go my own way :-)

On the SVT - it can come come right very neatly with homeopathy if you

are interested.

Namaste,

Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

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Maddviking@... wrote:

I think

> they get startled when you speak because they're used to unconscious patients.

Hee hee - I have missed your great sense of humour :-))

> I was in a cardiac rehab group being lectured to by a nurse one time and she

> asked what everybody ate. I told her I ate fat red meat two to three times a

> day. She backed away from me like I was Dracula and she was a priest and then

> she said, " and what's YOUR cholesterol level? " . I said 122. She changed the

> subject.

I had a similar experience with egg - I eat about 6 a day. After the

heart attack the cardiologist stared hard at my lipid and BP values, and

my well controlled glucose levels - double checked the name on the

report, looked at me as if he expected to see someone else there - and

went all silent on the job.

Nope - those were not factors.

> By the way, I'm no expert but I believe that high cholesterol is an

> indication of some greater problem and it's probably diet related.

Too much carbohydrate and trans fat yes :-)

This is the bad stuff that gets dumped as fat - not the fat that gets

eaten and burned - which is the problem - it makes brown fat which when

released into the blood stream is not nice stuff.

Carbohydrate also directly causes trouble because glucose (made from it)

is sticky and causes glycation of the blood vessels - stiff cross links

all over - which have hollows between the links into which more sticky

glucose sludge and cholesterol sludge can collect.

It's what really kills diabetics - but it affects everyone whose glucose

rises after a meal - which it will if you eat a lot of carbs.

Starchy carbohydrate has more to do with cholesterol than the medical

profession will admit - no doubt there is Monsanto and General Mills etc

in the driver's seat.

Why else does the " new food pyramid " look like the " bottom line " for the

anatomy and also for their profits.

The " new " diabetes pyramid is a disgrace, it is high starch and grain

oriented (gee hi there Monsanto et al, no of course you had no influence

yeah right!) and low fat. Diabetes educators tote little fat blocks

around to scare people - and models of occluded arteries - you are

supposed to believe the fat occluded the arteries when it's the glucose

that did it!

All backwards!

And they wonder why more and more people die of diabetes each year when

a decent diet instead of the recommended one would reverse all the

damage caused by sugar from high carb eating.

Euch! The world bus has a bad driver behind the wheel.

We gotta drive our own vehicles if we want any semblance of health.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

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> So, I was wondering if any of you have dealt with any of these

> conditions with the O foods and how you dealt with well-meaning but

> uninformed doctors?

>

I remember reading that magnesium can decrease the chances of heart

attack. I think it was a study in PubMed that added walnuts (high in

magnesium) to the diet. Those with the nuts had less heart attacks.

Walnuts are highly beneficial for Os.

Cheers,

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I'm sure many on here will be able to give you great advice Greta, also don't

forget on his website forums - he may have some good advice too.

I hope your dh is able to make some good progress v. soon.

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