Guest guest Posted December 5, 2001 Report Share Posted December 5, 2001 You may be asked to complete an access course most colleges run them. Our MA / CMT courses are not of special value for RGN training, your life skills is one thing going for you, however. Portsmouth uni will be introducing a Physician Assistant course in the not too distant future, base line entry will be the RN MA or equiv courses. Aye Ian H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2001 Report Share Posted December 5, 2001 Rab, not so sure what you mean... As far as I know you would still have to do the full 4 year diploma course or degree, ( RGN now not SRN). With your experience I am sure entry would not be a problem but the duration of the course I suspect would be the same lenght. Contact the UKCC and ask them for advice. Good luck, > Nursing > > Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in > March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple > of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. > 1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 > and ten years as a Rig Medic. > 2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open > up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. > > Yours Aye > Rab > > > Member Information: > > List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... > Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > > Post message: egroups > Subscribe: -subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > > Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Remember though that you will be on about £5,000 per year for about 4 years, which as I was getting £4,332 per year as a Student RGN in 1987 shows just how little we have progressed in the UK, in fact many would say we have dropped below the poverty level for student nurses and that is no way to gain high quality recruits. JC Nursing >> >> Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in >> March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple >> of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. >> 1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 >> and ten years as a Rig Medic. >> 2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open >> up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. >> >> Yours Aye >> Rab >> >> >> Member Information: >> >> List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >> Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... >> >> Post message: egroups >> Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >> Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups >> >> Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Would a second level ie SEN or EN(G) qualify for that level? I have a friend who might be interested? Ruth Re: Nursing >You may be asked to complete an access course most colleges run them. Our MA >/ CMT courses are not of special value for RGN training, your life skills is >one thing going for you, however. Portsmouth uni will be introducing a >Physician Assistant course in the not too distant future, base line entry >will be the RN MA or equiv courses. > >Aye > >Ian H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 Rab, I know it varies from trust to trust. Here at Paisley uni where I am hoping to convert from EN to RGN shortly they don't give credit for prior learning. I have 17 years experience in medical, surgical and various other hospital departments including short spells in coronary care, theatres, orthopaedics, x-ray, gyn, paeds etc. I still have to complete a 2 year course to convert. The only thing that they take into account is that when doing placements I wont have to complete the medical and surgical blocks which I have most experience in. It really annoys me. They don't take into account your experience as a medic. My advice is shop around. Contact a lot of Trusts and see what you come up with. At present I'm stuck to the Paisley, Glasgow area because of falmily commitments. Don't be surprised if they make you start from scratch! It's a real bummer. rmaitken999 <fsu022@...> wrote: Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. 1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 and ten years as a Rig Medic. 2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. Yours Aye Rab Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 I was told recently that EN or 2nd Level had been dropped, and that no prior learning or experience before the last five years was relevent, and as conversion courses seem to be like rocking horse manure, how the heck do people convert these days? JC Re: Nursing > >Rab, >I know it varies from trust to trust. Here at Paisley uni where I am hoping to convert from EN to RGN shortly they don't give credit for prior learning. I have 17 years experience in medical, surgical and various other hospital departments including short spells in coronary care, theatres, orthopaedics, x-ray, gyn, paeds etc. I still have to complete a 2 year course to convert. The only thing that they take into account is that when doing placements I wont have to complete the medical and surgical blocks which I have most experience in. It really annoys me. They don't take into account your experience as a medic. >My advice is shop around. Contact a lot of Trusts and see what you come up with. At present I'm stuck to the Paisley, Glasgow area because of falmily commitments. Don't be surprised if they make you start from scratch! It's a real bummer. > > rmaitken999 <fsu022@...> wrote: Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in >March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple >of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. >1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 >and ten years as a Rig Medic. >2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open >up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. > >Yours Aye >Rab > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 Hi That's correct. It all comes down to funding for most EN's. The courses are there but there are waiting lists. It is about £4000 for a two year course in most places. All the EN's that I know who have converted are really dissapointed with the course. They say that you don't learn anything you don't already know and that the only benefit is first level registration. Pretty tedious over two years. As second level registration has never held me back I'm doing some serious thinking about it. Regards Arlene JOHN CARPENTER <JOHN.CARPENTER.SNR@...> wrote: I was told recently that EN or 2nd Level had been dropped, and that no prior learning or experience before the last five years was relevent, and as conversion courses seem to be like rocking horse manure, how the heck do people convert these days? JC Re: Nursing > >Rab, >I know it varies from trust to trust. Here at Paisley uni where I am hoping to convert from EN to RGN shortly they don't give credit for prior learning. I have 17 years experience in medical, surgical and various other hospital departments including short spells in coronary care, theatres, orthopaedics, x-ray, gyn, paeds etc. I still have to complete a 2 year course to convert. The only thing that they take into account is that when doing placements I wont have to complete the medical and surgical blocks which I have most experience in. It really annoys me. They don't take into account your experience as a medic. >My advice is shop around. Contact a lot of Trusts and see what you come up with. At present I'm stuck to the Paisley, Glasgow area because of falmily commitments. Don't be surprised if they make you start from scratch! It's a real bummer. > > rmaitken999 wrote: Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in >March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple >of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. >1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 >and ten years as a Rig Medic. >2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open >up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. > >Yours Aye >Rab > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Really not sure, you will have to run that one past the uncas people. rgs Ian H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Much obliged, good luck with whatever you choose. Sometimes the Nursing profession in this country amazes me,they are crying out for nurses and yet make it difficult for those who have the experience to do so, even when they step forward enthusiastically there is always a barrier. ly I find it amazing. What also amazes me is that an EN was 2 years and RGN 3 years so why make an EN do a 2 year course which appears to be of little value. It also angered me a number of years ago that EN's were expected to become HCA's in some places or quit. A lot of the problems today go back to the late 1980's when massive cuts were made in the reorganisation of nurse training, and we all know what a mess that got the country into. A lot of the people I trained with have left the profession for good, and they were all darned good nurses. It really is a sad state of affairs. All the best C Re: Nursing > >Rab, >I know it varies from trust to trust. Here at Paisley uni where I am hoping to convert from EN to RGN shortly they don't give credit for prior learning. I have 17 years experience in medical, surgical and various other hospital departments including short spells in coronary care, theatres, orthopaedics, x-ray, gyn, paeds etc. I still have to complete a 2 year course to convert. The only thing that they take into account is that when doing placements I wont have to complete the medical and surgical blocks which I have most experience in. It really annoys me. They don't take into account your experience as a medic. >My advice is shop around. Contact a lot of Trusts and see what you come up with. At present I'm stuck to the Paisley, Glasgow area because of falmily commitments. Don't be surprised if they make you start from scratch! It's a real bummer. > > rmaitken999 wrote: Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in >March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple >of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. >1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 >and ten years as a Rig Medic. >2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open >up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. > >Yours Aye >Rab > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Dear all I've been reading all the bits on the conversions courses availability etc. & would like to pass on some info for the SEN's who feel they would like to do a conversion course I am on a distance learning course at the moment - through York Uni., & EMAP (the nursing times people) & I work offshore in the UK Northern North Sea sector. I've been on the course for about 6 months, so I've still got a fair way to go. The course is over 2 years, as per EEC requirements, & I have to undertake 3 modules that were not included in my original SEN course. these are - Care of the mother & new-born,(150 hrs of study) Community care (60 hrs of study) & Mental health & learning difficulties. (150 hrs of study) Some of the study hrs are to be 'hands on', but the vast percentage is to be done through books & assignments. To go with this there are assignments on particular aspects of nursing looking at a particular client or group of clients. through this assignment you identify goals, skills & knowledge requirements - then work thorough an action plan to achieve & implement them into your place of work. I'm doing mine on health promotions - which ties in nicely with the HSE's latest hitter - using this for improving the lifestyle of the platform population. The course is based around a research based knowledge system, so it leans heavily into finding things out from books & articles, using libraries & research literature. (thank goodness for the internet!) I is also very heavily into self set goals & reflective learning. At the end of the course there is a final written exam - I'm not sure as to what that will be as yet - but watch this space!! The package form EMAP is very well put together - its comes in book form with the main books running small sections & assignments - asking you to make notes on things you think or do, as well as getting you find information from government white papers & such. it is set at my level & I feel as if I am learning something from it, so I am happy. As I work offshore it fits into my working pattern very well - I spend most of my evenings studying while I'm offshore (keeps me from wasting my life away in front of the telly!) & have minimal studying while at home .... so all in all I feel it's worth it. at the end of the course I will have built up a fair amount of Cat points to go towards a degree, a few more than a direct entry RGN as I will have completed 4 years accredited study. it's only 2 modules more to get a HDipEd, which is my goal after this. I was disillusioned at the prospect of finding a course at first, but I feel it's much easier (so far) than I thought it would be, so instead of trying to find a hospital & leaving the offshore/remote area medical work, this is a good alternative. But if you don't want to jump throughout their hoops to get the qualification at the end, then that's your choice. If any one wants more info then feel free to drop me a line - gparkinson@... Seasons greetings to one & all Parkinson SEN Ninian Northern Platform Re: Nursing > >Rab, >I know it varies from trust to trust. Here at Paisley uni where I am hoping to convert from EN to RGN shortly they don't give credit for prior learning. I have 17 years experience in medical, surgical and various other hospital departments including short spells in coronary care, theatres, orthopaedics, x-ray, gyn, paeds etc. I still have to complete a 2 year course to convert. The only thing that they take into account is that when doing placements I wont have to complete the medical and surgical blocks which I have most experience in. It really annoys me. They don't take into account your experience as a medic. >My advice is shop around. Contact a lot of Trusts and see what you come up with. At present I'm stuck to the Paisley, Glasgow area because of falmily commitments. Don't be surprised if they make you start from scratch! It's a real bummer. > > rmaitken999 wrote: Hi Guys & Galls,Im about to undertake probably my last refresher in >March,and I am now looking into doing my nursing,so there is a couple >of Q I would like to put to you SRNs out there. >1.At what level would you think I would go into nurse training.(CMT1 >and ten years as a Rig Medic. >2.Its not so much the nursing I want to do,but the quals would open >up more oppertunities in management.Is it worth going this way. > >Yours Aye >Rab > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Luke If your interested in EMS in the American context, check out the email list available at www.paramedicine.com or go to and search for 'paramedicine', the one with 400+ members is a very active and useful group! Congrats on your test and best wished on your future! Regards Nick ____ Nick Nudell, NREMT-P Education Coordinator Glacier County EMS www.glacierems.com Northern Rockies Medical Center Cut Bank, MT nick@... Nursing Hello all, I know I have not written much but I am fairly new to this field. I recently just received my National Registry of EMT-B certification so I was quite happy about that. However, I have decided to pursue a nursing degree. I am applying to a couple of Registered nursing programs and one Bachelor's of Nursing program in land ( I live near Aberdeen, land) for the Fall of 2002. My question to the group is whether there are either EMT/paramedic/nursing exhange programs or fellowships between US nursing institutions and British/European institutions. I will check the University of land's website (since that is where I am applying for my BSN) and ask their academic counselors if they have exchange programs but I wanted to know if y'all in the field know other leads to search. Should I contact the foreign consulates in Washington DC? I appreciate your suggestions. Additionally, I do enjoy learning about the medical issues y'all discuss and address. Since I am a beginning EMT, I like understanding how the personnel in the field handle situations. I feel it provides more insight than only a textbook and lab practicals. Thank you, Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Ok, I can't believe I'm the one answering this. :-) I have seen lots of nursing moms here do BFL. The consensus seems to be that you need about 500 calories a day more than normal if you're doing BFL while nursing. Most doctors are ok with meal replacement supplements like Myoplex but a few people have been told to avoid it because of the artificial sweeteners. Fat burners and stuff like that are out, of course. I haven't listened to Kat's bodychangers interview, but she made that transformation while nursing. She used to be the one here who answered all the nursing mom questions. You might check out her interview or maybe e-mail her. http://www.bodychangers.com/kat_inter.shtml I'm sure there are other nursing moms around, but the board is a little slow around the holidays. nursing Hey, i'm new here. I started 9 days ago and doing great. Just wondering if anyone else is nursing, and if you tailored your program at all if you were. My baby is 5 months, so she still pretty much relies on me for her food. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I am nursing my son. He is a little over two. He only gets in one or two meals a day. So, I was waiting to see if anyone else popped up to answer your question. Before I started my first challenge, I called EAS and asked them if there were any of their products that were approved for nursing moms. They gave me the legal answer. No. I suspected as much. Since my son is older, I went ahead and use the protein shakes and meal replacement shakes. I have a couple of suggestions. Any LL leader in your area can look up what you are interested in and give you advice. Often times things are safe, but the companies say no for fear of being sued. Second, make sure you get 6 meals in a day. I typically do five on a good day. (I have trouble getting all of my meals in.) My son is old enough that he can tell me when I am not eating enough. He gets down right pissed off about it. " Its empty! " as he smacks my breast. Even though your baby can't verbally tell you, I am sure that if you watch for the signs, you will get an idea if you are eating enough. Just don't get discouraged. You probably know by now that if your supply slips a little, you can build it back up. The time I was really empty took me about 2 days to get it back to where it was. Good luck. I hope this helps. WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I found nursing difficult- didnt produce enough milk. In later years, found out that this may be caused by low progesterone levels. I had all the other symptoms of low progesteron life long as well. Also I read that iodine has a lot to do with it. Just some possible info for new moms.My son ended up with soy allergies, multiple sensitivies and celiac disease. I had to add soy formula to supplement the breast milk.. Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Sylvia, My low milk supply was because of my undiagnosed hypothyroid condition. I struggled with my first three, then discovered while pregnant with my fourth my condition, got on armour, and had all the milk I needed without all the struggle. Wish I knew what to complain about earlier! Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Sylvia Pisarski Onusic Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:40 PM iodine Subject: nursing I found nursing difficult- didnt produce enough milk. In later years, found out that this may be caused by low progesterone levels. I had all the other symptoms of low progesteron life long as well. Also I read that iodine has a lot to do with it. Just some possible info for new moms. My son ended up with soy allergies, multiple sensitivies and celiac disease. I had to add soy formula to supplement the breast milk.. Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I agree with Donna. I nursed both sons until about 20 or 24 months old. They also have no challenges keeping normal body weight and have been extremely healthy thru school years missing just a few days in 12 years and then college combined. They are late 20s now. It was not typical at the time but it was healthy. It also helps prevent diabetes and other major illnesses that could impact them their whole lives. Pam On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Donna Iler <Donna@...> wrote: Noel, I heartily agree with Anne. I nursed my first for a year, but his immune system was not functioning yet, which my natural doctor said is very normal. He said that 50% of children have their own functioning immune system at one year of age, but the other 50% don’t develop it until two years of age. My first son was healthy that first year, but then got majorly sick every time I took him out of the house. It was horrible being trapped in the house for a year, and having him on high antibiotics if I took him out and he got sick. I gladly nursed my others 2+ years. Everyone gave me a hard time for “being tied down”, but going about normal life with a healthy child at my side was far easier than a weaned child who was unable to go out of the house and was crabby sick. Donna in IL Obviously, nursing is a very personal decision, but if I had my life to live over again, I would nurse as long as I could. My son developed sleep issues, food allergies, & other problems as soon as he was weaned. In some cultures, children are nursed till age 7, & while most of us won't go that far, nursing has a lot of benefits... Particularly if you beef up your milk with super nutrition. A lot of us think our lives will be easier once our children are weaned, but life won't get easier if you are suddenly confronted with these other issues... Anne On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:18 PM, noel becker wrote: It's hard to say how/when the goiter started. Sophia has had no symptoms- I insisted on having her checked just on the off-chance that my thyroid problems affected her. The endo says that though I took iodine throughout pregnancy, I should have been taking it while nursing (nobody told me, or I would have- which is irritating, because I warned all of the drs of my thyroids concerns.) Interestingly, she has begun to swallow more solid food in the last week- whether because she's just ready for it, or the iodine for the past nine days is doing something, I don't know. Maybe she's just decided she's ready. Now if I could only wean her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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