Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hi Marilyn, I'm excited to hear about your improved breathing symptom! I have suffered with that exact symptom for about 4 years now! It's not asthma but similar, and I've found nothing that helps it! Even before I developed chronic fatigue, I had to quit dancing (I was teaching and performing) because my breathing got so bad! Awhile ago I read in one book, can't remember the title now, that dyspnea can be a hypothyroid symptom! None of the doctors I had seen were familiar with that, and I've never heard of anyone else before you to describe this symptom! It's terribly uncomfortable isn't it? I still haven't had sustained improvement with it but I'm desperately hoping that that will come! To answer your other question about reducing the dosage to a maintenance dose, I've read that many people can do that once they reach sufficiency, but some people, especially those with fibrocystic breast disease, feel better on at least 50mg indefinitely. Have you done the spot and loading test? That will help you determine your iodine levels. Sincerely, Marlena > > I am fairly certain I have problems with my thyroid but have been > unable to get a doctor to prescribe Armour (or anything else). I > decided to try Iodoral and started taking 25 mgs mornings and 25 mgs > at lunch every day about 1 week ago. I have had a slight headache and > a couple of days had extreme fatigue, but have noticed almost no > difference except for 1 thing. For so many years it felt like I never > could catch my breath, like my breaths were " incomplete " . Now I can > breathe deeply and it feels so good to take in air. Should I stick > with 50 mgs for a while and do you ever reach the point where you can > reduce what you take as in a maintnenance dose? > > Thanks, > Marilyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have no way to do the loading test. I have been to more than 1 doctor and can't find anyone who recognizes hypo by the symptoms. I did do the spot test a couple of months ago and the spot disappeared within 12 hours. (If spot testing means painting iodine on your skin and seeing how long it lasts). The breathing never kept me from activities, it was just always uncomfortable, I just accepted that was how I was. It began in my late teens and a doctor told me I was hyperventilating and treated me like I was hysterical or crazy. So I never mentioned it to a dr again. Marilyn > > > > I am fairly certain I have problems with my thyroid but have been > > unable to get a doctor to prescribe Armour (or anything else). I > > decided to try Iodoral and started taking 25 mgs mornings and 25 mgs > > at lunch every day about 1 week ago. I have had a slight headache and > > a couple of days had extreme fatigue, but have noticed almost no > > difference except for 1 thing. For so many years it felt like I never > > could catch my breath, like my breaths were " incomplete " . Now I can > > breathe deeply and it feels so good to take in air. Should I stick > > with 50 mgs for a while and do you ever reach the point where you can > > reduce what you take as in a maintnenance dose? > > > > Thanks, > > Marilyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Why do you believe you have no way to do the loading test? That is not true. You can order one yourself. Here are the resources available to you: The following list is a compilation of resources for obtaining the Iodine loading test. I recommend Hakala as they seem to have the fastest turn around time.Hakala Research885 Parfet Street Unit ELakewood, CO 80215877.238.1779 http://www.hakalalabs.com/servicesCall and ask for an iodine loading kit. It is $70 to do this test. It does not include return shipping.========================================================================================FFP Labs Dr. Jorg Flechas MD80 Doctors Drive Ste 3ville, NC 28792(1-877-900-5556)The cost of this test is $80. If it is not ordered by a physician you must tell them you are ordering it on your own and they will assign you to a nurse practitioner. When you get the results of this test you can receive a free consultation with Dr. Flechas. You may also obtain a urine spot test for an additional $30 for a total of $110 for both test.Spot / Loading / Bromide test can be obtained for $230===============================================================================Vitamin Research Productshttp://www.vrp.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProdID=9137 $100 for both the spot and loading test. Kit requires an ordering physician. If you do not have one contact VRP for more info.================================================================================= Re: Iodine dosing >I have no way to do the loading test. I have been to more than 1> doctor and can't find anyone who recognizes hypo by the symptoms.> I did do the spot test a couple of months ago and the spot disappeared> within 12 hours. (If spot testing means painting iodine on your skin> and seeing how long it lasts). > > The breathing never kept me from activities, it was just always> uncomfortable, I just accepted that was how I was. It began in my> late teens and a doctor told me I was hyperventilating and treated me> like I was hysterical or crazy. So I never mentioned it to a dr again.> Marilyn> > >> >>> > I am fairly certain I have problems with my thyroid but have been>> > unable to get a doctor to prescribe Armour (or anything else). I>> > decided to try Iodoral and started taking 25 mgs mornings and 25 mgs>> > at lunch every day about 1 week ago. I have had a slight headache and>> > a couple of days had extreme fatigue, but have noticed almost no>> > difference except for 1 thing. For so many years it felt like I never>> > could catch my breath, like my breaths were "incomplete". Now I can>> > breathe deeply and it feels so good to take in air. Should I stick>> > with 50 mgs for a while and do you ever reach the point where you can>> > reduce what you take as in a maintnenance dose?>> > >> > Thanks,>> > Marilyn>> >>>> > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 it would be hard to take 5mg Iodoral b/c the tabs are 12.5mg but scored so you can break them in half. I give my 10# minischnauzers 6.25mg per day. I have read that iodine docs think a therapeutic dose is 50--100mg. Gracia I had an iodine dosing test done recently and the doctor told me to take 5 mg of Iodoral daily. I will be in to see her in about a week at which time she'll go over my test results. Some places I've read on line talk like 5 mg is the maximum amount per day someone should take; however, I notice that some people here are taking 50 mg and more and discussing detox symptoms.Were those higher doses prescribed by your doctors, or are you going by a dosing schedule that is based on the results of your iodine loading test? If so, could someone direct me to it so I will know if my doctor is prescribing me correctly based on my iodine loading test.Thanks very much, No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1657 - Release Date: 9/6/2008 8:07 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 5mg of Iodine is a pretty low dose. Most people are on between 12.5-50mg. 100mg seems to be the upper limit but some people take even more than that if they are fighting cancer, for instance. You said you did a loading test? That's great! Get your results and post them here - we can help you to understand them. With iodine, It's not a bad idea to start slow to see how much detox reactions you have... But many people feel great right away! I recommend reading a few sites that were extremely helpful to me and will give you a lot of info about how to take iodine! Everyone is different. Make sure you are taking the supporting nutrients and doing salt loading as discussed in the links below:http://www.scribd.com/doc/1959949/IODINE-Solution-to-healthproblemshttp://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.htmlhttp://www.naturalthyroidchoices.comMarlena--- In iodine , "largo_di" <largo_di@...> wrote:>> I had an iodine dosing test done recently and the doctor told me to > take 5 mg of Iodoral daily. I will be in to see her in about a week > at which time she'll go over my test results. > > Some places I've read on line talk like 5 mg is the maximum amount per > day someone should take; however, I notice that some people here are > taking 50 mg and more and discussing detox symptoms.> > Were those higher doses prescribed by your doctors, or are you going > by a dosing schedule that is based on the results of your iodine > loading test? If so, could someone direct me to it so I will know if > my doctor is prescribing me correctly based on my iodine loading test.> > Thanks very much,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Thanks, Marlena, for those links. I'll check them out, and post my iodine dosing tests results as soon as I get them. > > > > I had an iodine dosing test done recently and the doctor told me to > > take 5 mg of Iodoral daily. I will be in to see her in about a week > > at which time she'll go over my test results. > > > > Some places I've read on line talk like 5 mg is the maximum amount per > > day someone should take; however, I notice that some people here are > > taking 50 mg and more and discussing detox symptoms. > > > > Were those higher doses prescribed by your doctors, or are you going > > by a dosing schedule that is based on the results of your iodine > > loading test? If so, could someone direct me to it so I will know if > > my doctor is prescribing me correctly based on my iodine loading test. > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I got my results from my iodine loading test. There are several numbers on here, so I'll post them all as I'm not sure which are the important ones: Iodine sample 1 PRE: 0.13 ug/mg cr (range 0.1 - 0.45 ug/mg cr) Iodine sample 2 POST: 23 ug/mg cr & 32 mg/24 hr.(0.1 - 0.45 mg/24 hr) % excretion/24 hr: 64% Creatinine Sample 1 PRE: 71 (35 - 225 mg/dl) Sample 2 POST: 1400 (600 - 1900 mg/24 hr) I made a mistake on my earlier post. I've been taking 1 tablet (12.5 mg) Iodoral daily for the last 6 weeks and have a followup visit with the doctor next Monday. Should I be taking more Iodoral? If so, how much and for how long? And then retest? If I should be taking more, do you move up slowly to avoid detox symptoms? So far, I don't think I am experiencing an detox symptoms. I do try to get in at least 1/2 to 1 tsp. Redmond's sea salt daily. Thanks for your help!!! > > > > > > I had an iodine dosing test done recently and the doctor told me > to > > > take 5 mg of Iodoral daily. I will be in to see her in about a > week > > > at which time she'll go over my test results. > > > > > > Some places I've read on line talk like 5 mg is the maximum > amount per > > > day someone should take; however, I notice that some people here > are > > > taking 50 mg and more and discussing detox symptoms. > > > > > > Were those higher doses prescribed by your doctors, or are you > going > > > by a dosing schedule that is based on the results of your iodine > > > loading test? If so, could someone direct me to it so I will > know if > > > my doctor is prescribing me correctly based on my iodine loading > test. > > > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's interesting, Marlena. Did you notice you felt a lot better, or had more energy at 82% rather than the 70%? Is the percentage number the only number on the test results that really tells us anything? I'd be curious what other folks on this board started out at with their loading tests (percentage wise) and then how much Iodoral they took, for how long, and what ending results were, and how much difference they noticed in their health. Thanks to all, > > > > I got my results from my iodine loading test. There are several > > numbers on here, so I'll post them all as I'm not sure which are the > > important ones: > > > > Iodine sample 1 PRE: 0.13 ug/mg cr (range 0.1 - 0.45 ug/mg cr) > > Iodine sample 2 POST: 23 ug/mg cr & 32 mg/24 hr.(0.1 - 0.45 mg/24 hr) > > % excretion/24 hr: 64% > > > > Creatinine > > Sample 1 PRE: 71 (35 - 225 mg/dl) > > Sample 2 POST: 1400 (600 - 1900 mg/24 hr) > > > > I made a mistake on my earlier post. I've been taking 1 tablet > > (12.5 mg) Iodoral daily for the last 6 weeks and have a followup > > visit with the doctor next Monday. > > > > Should I be taking more Iodoral? If so, how much and for how long? > > And then retest? If I should be taking more, do you move up slowly > > to avoid detox symptoms? So far, I don't think I am experiencing an > > detox symptoms. I do try to get in at least 1/2 to 1 tsp. Redmond's > > sea salt daily. > > > > Thanks for your help!!! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Doses range anywhere from micrograms to 200 mgs. Depends on what your issues are and if you have taken a loading test with bromide levels. Steph Iodine Dosing How does one know how much iodine to take? I am hypothyroid and take 60mcg of cytomel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Could it be that dosing Iodoral is weight dependent? That maybe one should dose according to their weight? I am 5'9 " and 280lbs. Maybe I should be taking 100mg instead of 50 since I have not experienced any changes, good or bad. Anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think Dr.Abraham once said that a person with more weight has a higher requirement for Iodine. This sounds just logical because breast tissue and skin are larger, so more is needed. however, I am not aware of a dosage per kilogram formula. One could assume that the dosage is made for a average person of 70kg/154lbs and therefore calculate: 50mg/154lbs =0,32mg per 1lbs which in your case would be an estimated 90mg for your weight. however, I did just make up this formula out of the blue so don't see it as advice I respond way better to 100mg as many do too, and my weight is about 191 lbs. I think it would not hurt to try, but don't forget selenium and salt loading. > > Could it be that dosing Iodoral is weight dependent? That maybe one should dose according to their weight? I am 5'9 " and 280lbs. Maybe I should be taking 100mg instead of 50 since I have not experienced any changes, good or bad. Anybody know? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 good question I have never thought about blood type in relation to dosing medication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I do not think this is right, that you should lower iodine dose if you get symptoms of detox. actually you want to detox and there are ways to minimize symptoms. gracia Engtovo wrote: > > > It is my opinion that all medication is weight dependant and in some > cases height dependant if you are overweight, some medications are not > effected by the fat being carried and should be dosed by the core. > As a woman who is only 5 feet tall it is common for me to take lower > doses of things. Most pharma dosing is based on men and not women as > well. There is information in the few studies that have been done that > show men and women should be tested with all drugs separately as it > seems we use them differently in different doses. With Iodoral watch > for bromide symptoms, if you are ok on a dose after a couple weeks > without any bromide toxicity then you could consider a higher dose. As > I mentioned in another post though you can be many months down the > road and start to detox bromide and need to lower and find a dose > where you are not in bromide overload if the salt loading doesn't take > care of it within a few days. > > Engtovo > > > > Iodine dosing > <iodine/message/46321;_ylc=X3oDMTJzb2t1c2U2BF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE3MDE1NTMxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTEwNARtc2dJZAM0NjMyMQRzZWMDZG1\ zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjU2MjI1MDAx> > > > Posted by: " tredus1971 " tredus1971@... > <mailto:tredus1971@...?Subject=%20Re%3AIodine%20dosing> > tredus1971 <tredus1971> > > > Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:23 am (PDT) > > > > Could it be that dosing Iodoral is weight dependent? That maybe one > should dose according to their weight? I am 5'9 " and 280lbs. Maybe I > should be taking 100mg instead of 50 since I have not experienced any > changes, good or bad. Anybody know? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Well for me right now it is the intensity of the detoxing, the salt loading was not taking care of it over a reasonable period of time and I am taking all the other companion nutrients so I have to give my body the break it needs and move back up as I can tolerate, and I really have a pretty high tolerance for detoxing and herxing so I don't lower it on a whim for sure. In fact I tried going right back up after a couple days off an it knocked me on my butt LOL I still need to be able to function, so detoxing has to be at manageable levels. I think as I am coming out the other side of the subacute thyroiditis and my body is using the iodine better I am finding I am far more bromide toxic than I knew. Engtovo Re: Iodine dosing Posted by: "Gracia" circe@... graciabee Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:48 am (PDT) I do not think this is right, that you should lower iodine dose if you get symptoms of detox. actually you want to detox and there are ways to minimize symptoms.gracia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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