Re: My experience with homeopathy

[Guest guest]

Well I agree with Ellen in terms of prescription drugs. Have you ever seen the

ads for these drugs now? Toward the end of the ad they always " and the side

effects include " have you what some of the side effects are to these drugs?

Scary. I know that I don't what to have to battle diarhea from using nazal

spray. I mean thanks but no thanks.

Ellen <mzellen03@...> wrote:My first " rule " is I won't have an

alternative medicine professional who

refuses to work with " mainstream " medicine and I won't have a medical

professional who refuses to work with alternative medicine.

My first experience was a " while " ago. I had been struggling with

infertility for several years. I now have 2 great kids, both of whom were

conceived without fertility drugs. I was able to maintain the pregnancies

(after 5 miscarriages) without drugs.

My latest experience was when my husband was diagnosed with cancer. He

lived 18 months (instead of the projected 6-8 weeks) and those months were

largely pain free (the cancer doctor went into it assuming that pain control

would be the goal).

At this point I take no drugs on a regular basis. I have no pressing health

issues (the anosmia is not something I consider " pressing " in a medical

sense) and my doctor says that I'm overweight, but healthy.

;-) Ellen

[Guest guest]

Please don't get me wrong - I have used prescription drugs, but as a last

resort. The reason Irene criticized me this time was because I asked a

question about prednisone (at least close to being one of the most damaging

drugs on the market).

Mainstream prescription drugs have their place, but I believe that a doctor

who brings out the Rx pad first should be avoided. My doctors have all been

willing to work with alternative medicine and keep tabs on my bloodwork,

etc., while using homeopathic (and other) medicines.

You are absolutely, right about the ads - pick a target audience and develop

a drug for them. I just tune them out.

;-) Ellen

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> Well I agree with Ellen in terms of prescription drugs. Have you ever

> seen the ads for these drugs now? Toward the end of the ad they always

> " and the side effects include " have you what some of the side effects are

> to these drugs? Scary. I know that I don't what to have to battle

> diarhea from using nazal spray. I mean thanks but no thanks.

[Guest guest]

PREDNISONE! That drug ruined my life. Because of that drug, I gained sixty

pounds in a matter of months and no I was not eating tons of food, but boy did I

crave sweets almost all the time on that drug and it made my cheeks kinda round.

Hello! what the hell is that all about. Everything had to have sugar on it.

Okay everyone repeat after me. No more prednisone.

Ellen <mzellen03@...> wrote:

Please don't get me wrong - I have used prescription drugs, but as a last

resort. The reason Irene criticized me this time was because I asked a

question about prednisone (at least close to being one of the most damaging

drugs on the market).

Mainstream prescription drugs have their place, but I believe that a doctor

who brings out the Rx pad first should be avoided. My doctors have all been

willing to work with alternative medicine and keep tabs on my bloodwork,

etc., while using homeopathic (and other) medicines.

You are absolutely, right about the ads - pick a target audience and develop

a drug for them. I just tune them out.

;-) Ellen

Re: My experience with homeopathy

> Well I agree with Ellen in terms of prescription drugs. Have you ever

> seen the ads for these drugs now? Toward the end of the ad they always

> " and the side effects include " have you what some of the side effects are

> to these drugs? Scary. I know that I don't what to have to battle

> diarhea from using nazal spray. I mean thanks but no thanks.

[Guest guest]

Re: My experience with homeopathy

> PREDNISONE! That drug ruined my life.

I know. It's a terrible drug. Last chance.

Sorry I said *ANYTHING*

[Guest guest]

Ellen wrote:

> My first " rule " is I won't have an alternative medicine professional who

> refuses to work with " mainstream " medicine and I won't have a medical

> professional who refuses to work with alternative medicine.

Guess what we actually agree on something:-))

........Irene

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P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

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Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

The difference is, Irene - I see that I'm not an expert in everything I

choose to do. The only thing I'm an expert in is *ME*.

I agree with a lot of what you say - but it's really hard to see beyond your

attitude.

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>

>

> Ellen wrote:

>> My first " rule " is I won't have an alternative medicine professional who

>> refuses to work with " mainstream " medicine and I won't have a medical

>> professional who refuses to work with alternative medicine.

>

> Guess what we actually agree on something:-))

>

> .......Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

> P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

> Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ellen wrote:

> Please don't get me wrong - I have used prescription drugs, but as a last

> resort. The reason Irene criticized me

I have never criticised you.

I have offered information and suggestions and tried to understand your

situation - all of which is not in any way criticism.

You are good at *imagining* criticism where none exists.

.....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

I think you may not have meant to, but I personally had the impression you were

already taking the prednisone. If others on the list had that impression, they

were just worried for you and wanted you to know the consequenses. I'm sure you

took it as hurtful, but I don't think they meant it to be.

Whatever you decide to do, we still care.

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> PREDNISONE! That drug ruined my life.

I know. It's a terrible drug. Last chance.

Sorry I said *ANYTHING*

[Guest guest]

Ellen wrote:

> I see that I'm not an expert in everything I

> choose to do. The only thing I'm an expert in is *ME*.

How self-denigrating. (As usual)

Believe what you invent, that's your indaba.

> I agree with a lot of what you say - but it's really hard to see beyond your

> attitude.

Get real.

You are not in a position to even decide whether I have an attitude.

When you use self-denigation - it's your invention, your thoughts, your

words.

NOT mine.

......Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:17:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mzellen03@... writes:

There are so few truly perfect people around.

Hey, my dogs think I'm a perfect person!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures

that do.

No, we all think you're perfect too.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:40:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

I agree with you Ellen, especially about the children. I only have 1 but he

is backrupting me.

It only gets worse.

[Guest guest]

I realize that I don't know everything about everything...I didn't realize

that was self-denigrating, just realistic. There are some things that I'm

good at, a couple that I *am* expert* in. But not everything.

I'm glad for you that you are at 100% of 100% of 100% of everything you do.

I really am. There are so few truly perfect people around.

Ellen

Re: My experience with homeopathy

> Ellen wrote:

>> I see that I'm not an expert in everything I

>> choose to do. The only thing I'm an expert in is *ME*.

>

> How self-denigrating. (As usual)

> Believe what you invent, that's your indaba.

>

>> I agree with a lot of what you say - but it's really hard to see beyond

>> your

>> attitude.

>

> Get real.

> You are not in a position to even decide whether I have an attitude.

> When you use self-denigation - it's your invention, your thoughts, your

> words.

> NOT mine.

>

> .....Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

> P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

> Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ellen you are funny!

ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com

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* I realize that I don't know everything about everything...I

didn't realize

that was self-denigrating, just realistic. There are some things that

I'm

good at, a couple that I *am* expert* in. But not everything.

I'm glad for you that you are at 100% of 100% of 100% of everything you

do.

I really am. There are so few truly perfect people around.

Ellen

[Guest guest]

My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures that

do.

Re: My experience with homeopathy

In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:17:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mzellen03@... writes:

There are so few truly perfect people around.

Hey, my dogs think I'm a perfect person!!

[Guest guest]

Re: My experience with homeopathy

> My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures

> that do.

My cats think *they're* perfect. They think I'm the food dispenser and my

kids think I'm an ATM <lol>

;-) Ellen

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Ellen, especially about the children. I only have 1 but he is

backrupting me.

Re: My experience with homeopathy

> My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures

> that do.

My cats think *they're* perfect. They think I'm the food dispenser and my

kids think I'm an ATM <lol>

;-) Ellen

[Guest guest]

I have two of my own (boy 18 and girl 16) and one (boy 16) that's staying

here for a while until some legal things get straightened out - and that may

be a while.

;-) Ellen

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>

>

> > My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living

> creatures

> > that do.

>

> My cats think *they're* perfect. They think I'm the food dispenser and

> my

> kids think I'm an ATM <lol>

>

> ;-) Ellen

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, thanks Max. Your are wonderful.

Re: My experience with homeopathy

In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures

that do.

No, we all think you're perfect too.

[Guest guest]

He is 27 and has an MBA. How can it get worse?

Re: My experience with homeopathy

In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:40:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

I agree with you Ellen, especially about the children. I only have 1 but he

is backrupting me.

It only gets worse.

[Guest guest]

> My cats think *they're* perfect.

My cat used to be shy and insecure until I started working with

flower essences. Now she's convinced she's the queen. I'd

better have another look at what's in those bottles...

Lynn

[Guest guest]

I'm definitely on my cats' " litter pan " list. Along with the foster kid

came his two cats. So now there are four...They're getting along

surprisingly well - my " fatboy " has his nose out of joint, the two new ones

are both males.

Mine are both declawed and the new ones aren't, but so far, so good.

;-) Ellen

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> My dog & cat think I am perfect also. Probably the only living creatures

> that do.

[Guest guest]

> Great are they not?

> The cats and the flower essences :-))

> I use the BAch ones a good bit in my pratice.

They really work on my sweet girl. But it seems like every

essence that gets " prescribed " for her is FES (Flower Essence

Society) and none of my health store outlets carries FES, only

Bach. But I can usually get what I need by mail within a couple

days.

Personally, I think that anyone who owns a pet should have

Rescue Remedy on hand. Such a huge help! (I take it when I'm

stressed.)

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Ellen wrote:

> Mine are both declawed

Why?

[Guest guest]

>>>I agree with you Ellen, especially about the children. I only have 1 but he

is backrupting me.

**We have 5 so you can imagine how skint I am ;o) we also had an 'extra' for 6

wks over the festive season.

)

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