Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

[Guest guest]

I am guy so I would be more direct. Block the clown from this site.

Regards,

Mark

> From: <tracy.smith108@...>

> Subject: Negativity? Demoralizing?

>

> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 3:15 PM

> Dear Mike,

>  

> Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It

> is  " This list is for people who are blood type O, who

> follow the Eat Right 4 Your Type Lifestyle, and diet, and

> follow Dr. D " .

>  

> Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's

> debate the merits of ER4YT, the HARD EVIDENCE behind it or

> lack thereof, and let's work to find someone Mike finds

> credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's work " , you

> would find people of a like mind and not so " defensive,

> insecure, and immature " as you seem to have called us.

> I can't think why you would not write to Dr. D'Adamo

> and ask him to defend his work, books, and research instead

> of asking people here who clearly have found success that

> they do not need to defend to you.

>  

> Sincerely,

>

> (8 year ER4TY success story) 

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amen .

" A true friend is someone who thinks

you are a good egg

even though he knows

you are slightly cracked

From: <tracy.smith108@...>

Subject: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 3:15 PM

Dear Mike,

 

Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It is  " This list is for people

who are blood type O, who follow the Eat Right 4 Your Type Lifestyle, and

diet, and follow Dr. D " .

 

Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's debate the merits of ER4YT, the

HARD EVIDENCE behind it or lack thereof, and let's work to find someone Mike

finds credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's work " , you would find people of a

like mind and not so " defensive, insecure, and immature " as you seem to have

called us. I can't think why you would not write to Dr. D'Adamo and ask him to

defend his work, books, and research instead of asking people here who clearly

have found success that they do not need to defend to you.

 

Sincerely,

(8 year ER4TY success story) 

 

 

[Guest guest]

* *

* :-) *

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM, <tracy.smith108@...>wrote:

> Dear Mike,

>

> Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It is " This list is for

> people who are blood type O, who follow the Eat Right 4 Your Type Lifestyle,

> and diet, and follow Dr. D " .

>

> Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's debate the merits of

> ER4YT, the HARD EVIDENCE behind it or lack thereof, and let's work to find

> someone Mike finds credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's work " , you would

> find people of a like mind and not so " defensive, insecure, and immature " as

> you seem to have called us. I can't think why you would not write to Dr.

> D'Adamo and ask him to defend his work, books, and research instead of

> asking people here who clearly have found success that they do not need

> to defend to you.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> (8 year ER4TY success story)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Go Mark!!!!  Host, can you do that?  Who is our host now?

" A true friend is someone who thinks

you are a good egg

even though he knows

you are slightly cracked

> From: <tracy.smith108>

> Subject: Negativity? Demoralizing?

> @groups .com

> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 3:15 PM

> Dear Mike,

>  

> Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It

> is  " This list is for people who are blood type O, who

> follow the Eat Right 4 Your Type Lifestyle, and diet, and

> follow Dr. D " .

>  

> Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's

> debate the merits of ER4YT, the HARD EVIDENCE behind it or

> lack thereof, and let's work to find someone Mike finds

> credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's work " , you

> would find people of a like mind and not so " defensive,

> insecure, and immature " as you seem to have called us.

> I can't think why you would not write to Dr. D'Adamo

> and ask him to defend his work, books, and research instead

> of asking people here who clearly have found success that

> they do not need to defend to you.

>  

> Sincerely,

>

> (8 year ER4TY success story) 

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You and I both know that asking D'Adamo to defend his work is a dead

end. D'Adamo deflects all inconsistencies, problems, ill effects,

complaints and ER4YT deficiencies in typical fashion- " those who

choose to ignore the principles of ER4Yt will suffer the

consequences " , any problems are just " detox affects " , food lectin

flip-flops metamorphize into " new information has become

available " , " we are all individuals " , " positive effects are

consistent across blood types " , " clinical observations " , etc.

I believe that legitimate dietary blood type benefits probably do

exist. But, I am also convinced that they exist outside the realm of

ER4YT. The tragedy is that we may never discover the true measure of

these benefits as long as the close minded remain in total denial

about the many discrepancies that constitute the fundamental basis of

ER4YT. Since you (and those like you) choose to surrender by

accepting ER4YT without question, then I will continue forward with

the search for answers that may ultimately lead to the truth behind a

blood type connection. In this abject spirit, perhaps you should then

also consider forming a group, your own ER4YT splinter faction:

" Welcome to Taliban , dedicated to blowing smoke, disregarding

the scientific method and pumping in artificial sunshine about the

ER4YT diet. If you do not completely agree with our ideas (or those

expressed by D'Adamo in ER4YT therein), you are an infidel. Anyone

not 100% with " us " , will automatically be deemed against " us " and

therefore treated as the enemy. Any debate concerning the

inconsistencies with the ER4YT diet will immediately be dismissed as

heresy against ER4YT doctrine and strictly represent a lack of faith

on your part. The only evidence that you require in this group is our

personal testimonials and D'Adamo's say so " .

-Mike

>

> Dear Mike,

>  

> Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It is  " This list

is for people who are blood type O, who follow the Eat Right 4 Your

Type Lifestyle, and diet, and follow Dr. D " .

>  

> Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's debate the merits

of ER4YT, the HARD EVIDENCE behind it or lack thereof, and let's work

to find someone Mike finds credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's

work " , you would find people of a like mind and not so " defensive,

insecure, and immature " as you seem to have called us. I can't think

why you would not write to Dr. D'Adamo and ask him to defend his

work, books, and research instead of asking people here who clearly

have found success that they do not need to defend to you.

>  

> Sincerely,

>

> (8 year ER4TY success story) 

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there Mike:

If you have personal or philosophical arguments going on, perhaps you

could take them OFF LIST please?

> >

> > Dear Mike,

> >  

> > Perhaps you missed the title of this group. It is  " This

list

> is for people who are blood type O, who follow the Eat Right 4 Your

> Type Lifestyle, and diet, and follow Dr. D " .

> >  

> > Maybe if you want to begin a group called " Let's debate the

merits

> of ER4YT, the HARD EVIDENCE behind it or lack thereof, and let's

work

> to find someone Mike finds credible to peer reivew Dr. 'Adamo's

> work " , you would find people of a like mind and not so " defensive,

> insecure, and immature " as you seem to have called us. I can't

think

> why you would not write to Dr. D'Adamo and ask him to defend his

> work, books, and research instead of asking people here who clearly

> have found success that they do not need to defend to you.

> >  

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > (8 year ER4TY success story) 

> >  

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:02 AM, mdstxag91 wrote:

> ,

>

> You and I both know that asking D'Adamo to defend his work is a dead

> end.

And so are your emails. I now see your emails as spam and will filter

to trash unseen - but would prefer to NOT see it on the list here.

It is now cluttering my computer time and storage.

...........Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Mike,,, if you're still there,,, I'm interested in whether you follow a

specific diet or not... and if eating everything/anything in particular works

for you. Are you at your ideal weight, etc.

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[Guest guest]

Um, is it only D'Adamo's work Mike has an issue with (seems very

personal) because there is tons of work/diets out on the net Mike can

have fun with & have an utterly fun filled day then coming here.

Trust me, there are ones that merit some of Mike's input.

In any event, I think you over stayed your visit, dear Mike. Good

points you sited but let us do our thing & you do your thing elsewhere.

Ciao!

>

> > ,

> >

> > You and I both know that asking D'Adamo to defend his work is a dead

> > end.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Just read your post…and incredibly, I am still here (b/c I really

figured comrade Mark and the rest of the Gestapo already had me

barred by now- lol).

Although I do not follow a specific diet, my food choices are based

on multiple areas of nutritional research and personal

experimentation (a.k.a. " elimination diet " ). Over the years, I

discovered that diet is like a pyramid that consists of several

hundred building blocks. Each building block represents a critical

field or discipline of research that reveal the healthful role that

food plays in our bodies. And while some " building blocks " comprise

the critical foundation & load bearing areas of the pyramid, others

(like blood type) offer minor contributions like shape & form. My

current diet has been constructed by meticulously and methodically

mapping each " building block " to determine what works best for me.

Perhaps this analogy is far too simplistic to accurately describe the

complex nature of food or the way I approach my diet. However, the

research that predominantly comprises the " cornerstone " of my diet

has been derived using the groundbreaking work of Weston A. Price.

I would like to carefully point out that I am not trying to persuade

anyone (except, of course for blood type A & AB…please reconsider NOW

before it's too late!) to discontinue ER4YT. If something has been

working well for you, it is probably a good sign and not necessarily

a reason to stop. But, there may be additional factors to consider.

For example, one of the heavy WAP influences in my diet has been the

work of Sally Fallon, especially in the field of raw dairy. Raw

dairy should be considered an altogether different food group than

pasteurized dairy. Plenty of folks that are lactose intolerant &

report problems while eating pasteurized dairy (myself included) have

experienced remarkable health benefits from eating raw dairy.

Another example has been the influence of Aajonus Vonderplanitz. AV

also embodies the work and principles of Weston Price, primarily in

the area of eating raw animal foods- including raw meat, raw dairy,

and even vegetable juices. Except when I discontinued certain

practices like vegetable juicing (for the 2- years that I spent on

ER4YT, per D'Adamo's recommendations), I had already been following

many of AV's dietary recommendations for a number of years. However,

Vonderplanitz really puts many of the healthful aspects of diet and

food into focus. Even friends who were strict vegetarians before

reading " We Want to Live " or " The Recipe for Living without Disease " ,

reported amazing success after incorporating AV's ideas.

I have been fortunate enough to maintain a consistently lean

bodyweight for many years by eating this way. Even though

oversimplified, I hope this answers your questions.

-Mike

lescase@... wrote:

>

> Mike,,, if you're still there,,, I'm interested in whether you

follow a

> specific diet or not... and if eating everything/anything in

particular works

> for you. Are you at your ideal weight, etc.

[Guest guest]

Do you eat grains?

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

mdstxag91

Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Hi ,

Just read your post.and incredibly, I am still here (b/c I really

figured comrade Mark and the rest of the Gestapo already had me

barred by now- lol).

Although I do not follow a specific diet, my food choices are based

on multiple areas of nutritional research and personal

experimentation (a.k.a. " elimination diet " ). Over the years, I

discovered that diet is like a pyramid that consists of several

hundred building blocks. Each building block represents a critical

field or discipline of research that reveal the healthful role that

food plays in our bodies. And while some " building blocks " comprise

the critical foundation & load bearing areas of the pyramid, others

(like blood type) offer minor contributions like shape & form. My

current diet has been constructed by meticulously and methodically

mapping each " building block " to determine what works best for me.

Perhaps this analogy is far too simplistic to accurately describe the

complex nature of food or the way I approach my diet. However, the

research that predominantly comprises the " cornerstone " of my diet

has been derived using the groundbreaking work of Weston A. Price.

I would like to carefully point out that I am not trying to persuade

anyone (except, of course for blood type A & AB.please reconsider NOW

before it's too late!) to discontinue ER4YT. If something has been

working well for you, it is probably a good sign and not necessarily

a reason to stop. But, there may be additional factors to consider.

For example, one of the heavy WAP influences in my diet has been the

work of Sally Fallon, especially in the field of raw dairy. Raw

dairy should be considered an altogether different food group than

pasteurized dairy. Plenty of folks that are lactose intolerant &

report problems while eating pasteurized dairy (myself included) have

experienced remarkable health benefits from eating raw dairy.

Another example has been the influence of Aajonus Vonderplanitz. AV

also embodies the work and principles of Weston Price, primarily in

the area of eating raw animal foods- including raw meat, raw dairy,

and even vegetable juices. Except when I discontinued certain

practices like vegetable juicing (for the 2- years that I spent on

ER4YT, per D'Adamo's recommendations), I had already been following

many of AV's dietary recommendations for a number of years. However,

Vonderplanitz really puts many of the healthful aspects of diet and

food into focus. Even friends who were strict vegetarians before

reading " We Want to Live " or " The Recipe for Living without Disease " ,

reported amazing success after incorporating AV's ideas.

I have been fortunate enough to maintain a consistently lean

bodyweight for many years by eating this way. Even though

oversimplified, I hope this answers your questions.

-Mike

lescase@... wrote:

>

> Mike,,, if you're still there,,, I'm interested in whether you

follow a

> specific diet or not... and if eating everything/anything in

particular works

> for you. Are you at your ideal weight, etc.

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, they literally make me physically ill and gain weight.

>

> Do you eat grains?

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,, you're nutrition take is really interesting, thanks for sharing.

Are you an O?.. and how do you do with grains? just curious. I think a

elimination perspective is smart. What intrigues me (I know you have sort of

an

anti-lectin theory perspective), is the possible link of lectins passing

through the intestinal wall, getting into the bloodstream and potentially

creating an inflammatory response (ie arthritis, etc). Does anyone have a

take

on this concept ... or less inflammation as a result of avoiding 'avoids' ?

Personally, my spine acts up after wheat and corn. ! thanks!

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[Guest guest]

, I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have decided to

give up grains for now to see if I can regain health. I guess I am doing

more of a Paleo diet with BT Avoids. From what I have been reading, some

doctors theorized that leaky gut can be cause by grains. Some even say high

levels of estrogen which I was own for several years. Whatever the reason, I

do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have is for those

that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full? Hunger seems to be a

problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

lescase@...

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Mike,, you're nutrition take is really interesting, thanks for sharing.

Are you an O?.. and how do you do with grains? just curious. I think a

elimination perspective is smart. What intrigues me (I know you have sort of

an

anti-lectin theory perspective), is the possible link of lectins passing

through the intestinal wall, getting into the bloodstream and potentially

creating an inflammatory response (ie arthritis, etc). Does anyone have a

take

on this concept ... or less inflammation as a result of avoiding 'avoids' ?

Personally, my spine acts up after wheat and corn. ! thanks!

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[Guest guest]

you stay full by eating verggies.And more meat. Grain sets up cravings for

more, esp. wheat is totally addicting.

Em m

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I am staying away from wheat but I broke down and had granola tonight

for a snack. I was just way too hungry and just couldn't stomach another

meat and veggie dish.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

E.Andersen

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

you stay full by eating verggies.And more meat. Grain sets up cravings for

more, esp. wheat is totally addicting.

Em m

[Guest guest]

Brown rice is filling and one of the best grains for O's.  Have you tried it?  I

put 2 cups brown rice in non stick frying pan dry and brown it over medium heat

until it pops for about minutes.  Then add 4 cups of water and bring to a boil,

cover and simmer for about 45 minutes.  I like it with raisons, raw brown sugar,

walnuts and sometimes I add fruit, banana  usually.  It sure satisfies me.  Let

me know what you think.

" A true friend is someone who thinks

you are a good egg

even though he knows

you are slightly cracked

From: Debra <mermaideeee@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:34 PM

Yeah, I am staying away from wheat but I broke down and had granola tonight

for a snack. I was just way too hungry and just couldn't stomach another

meat and veggie dish.

_____

From: @groups .com [mailto:@groups .com] On Behalf Of

E.Andersen

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:32 PM

@groups .com

Subject: Re: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

you stay full by eating verggies.And more meat. Grain sets up cravings for

more, esp. wheat is totally addicting.

Em m

[Guest guest]

Debra, are you getting enough short & medium chain fatty acids in

your diet? You had mentioned offline a while back that you were a

Protein Type, so I assume that you are familiar with Wolcott's work.

Depending on how fast you " oxidize " (or your degree of

parasympathetic dominance), perhaps consider increasing saturated fat

intake while eliminating grains altogether. The decision to abandon

grains is wise, but keep in mind that Paleo is a lean meat diet which

can slow down or impede healing due to the lack of fats.

The feeling of fullness and energy that a Protein Type typically

experiences after eating grains is a fleeting moment. Depending on

your degree of parasympathetic dominance and the glycemic index of

the grains eaten, the metabolic nightmare which will ensue throws

insulin and leptin levels out of balance. In addition,

neurotransmitters (like serotonin) are released in the brain after

eating grains that can literally turn Protein Type's into " grain

junkies " . To reverse this cycle of addiction and restore such

biochemical and neurochemical imbalances (cravings, withdrawals and

energy crashes) will usually takes about 48 to 72 hours of being

grain free.

The saturated fat that I've found (other than the stearic acid in

grass fed beef) that is the best and easiest to use is coconut oil.

The brand that I prefer is Wilderness Family Naturals: " extra virgin,

cold- pressed, centrifuged extracted, 100% organic " coconut oil.

Should you decide to try this, remember to go easy at first. Some

folks (myself included) report an incredible adrenal rush after first

using coconut oil. This usually subsides after the first or second

time, but still continues to provide sustained energy and fullness

throughout the day.

In addition, only consume raw coconut oil…at least for the first few

months. Even though coconut oil is probably the most stable and safe

cooking oil, heat will alter its ability to bind with and remove

toxins from the body. Most people loose large amounts of weight &

body fat while on coconut oil. This body fat will naturally contain

toxins that can easily be absorbed and removed by a fat like coconut

oil ONLY if it remains in its raw state.

Finally, coconut oil also aids in healing " leaky gut " syndrome. The

lauric acid in coconut oil helps kill harmful intestinal pathogens

brought about by things like eating grains, while encouraging

friendly intestinal flora to repopulate the gut. For maximum

intestinal repair and healing, cultured raw dairy works the best.

>

> , I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have

decided to

> give up grains for now to see if I can regain health. I guess I am

doing

> more of a Paleo diet with BT Avoids. From what I have been reading,

some

> doctors theorized that leaky gut can be cause by grains. Some even

say high

> levels of estrogen which I was own for several years. Whatever the

reason, I

> do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have is

for those

> that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full? Hunger seems to

be a

> problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

[Guest guest]

On Jan 15, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Debra wrote:

> , I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have

> decided to

> give up grains for now to see if I can regain health.

I gave up all kinds of wheat first but generally avoid all grains

except a bit if rice - best dietary decision I made.

>

> Some even say high

> levels of estrogen

This can cause skewed immune system issues - and leaky gut is one.

> which I was own for several years. Whatever the reason, I

> do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have is

> for those

> that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full?

Good question. It is more difficult.

I do use a FEW rice crackers with cheese now and then, but basically

I incfreased my high-antioxidant vegetables, my good fatty acids and

my protein.

Nuts and dried fruit make good snacks to fill up. My meals are

loaded with veg.

Breakfast: Half a baked chicken thigh with a teaspoon of EV olive

oil, 4 rice crackers with Havarti cheese, a latte and my usual

supplements that include Vit E and fish oil. (Latte and Havarti works

for me, but is not O-compliant, and I can not eat much at brekker

time. the fatty acids sustain me and slow the lactose and rice

absorption.

Later I snacked on the rest of the chicken and added a few nuts.)

Last night: Pepper-turkey organic sausage (2 of them), mixed

mushrooms, mixed color peppers, beans, broccoli, and a small sweet

potato.

Lunch: Cheeseburger from the deli minus bun, with plenty leaf

lettuce, red onion and tomato, and a side of steamed yams.

Plus a piece of dark chocolate and one of dried mango for desert.

(Lunch is my main meal)

I substitute a lot, such as: Instead of pizza use omelette with pizza

toppings in it.

Instead of a bun or bread, use lettuce, tomato, onion, and/or steamed

veg of any kind or salad - aloways with some EV OLIVE Oil.

> Hunger seems to be a

> problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

Fill up on (fresh or dried) fruit and nuts if you crave carbs,

I do find that even just a few rice crackers, helps.

My other filler is very thick soup - I am looking for artichoke flour

to u se for thickiening but currently have settled for rice flour or

corn starch. The right beans are also very filling as in spicy chili

soup..... but I find i ned to consume beans before noon for best

results.

Also there are nutrients in rice bran that are hard to get

elsewherre. I keep telling myself to use and allow rice bran, but it

is not that easy to incloude - not great as hamburger or salad

dressing for example:-) I eat out mostly, so it is hard to plan

meals too well, these are some of my workarounds.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your post. Yes, actually I said Paleo but I follow more of the

metabolic or McFerran's Hunter Gather diet which recommends the

fattier meats especially organs. I do like fatty meats (hamburger, rib eye).

I've been thinking though of how I could incorporate more fats into my diet.

Avocado? I know that is an avoid but some people do okay with it. It's funny

you mentioned coconut oil. There's a big discussion about it on the Ayurveda

board and how beneficial it is. I used it in my banana bread I made last

week. I am out of it and need to restock. I think I will try to eliminate

most grains especially those with yeast in it. But if I am feeling the

craving, maybe the brown rice is the answer. After all, the Japanese eat it

all the time. I am absolutely a parasympathetic dominant. I think I lean to

the left of the scale as well. Lots of fire in my belly and charts. Did you

say you've gone off grains completely? I would love to add more fruit to my

diet to compensate for grains. Have you been able to eat several servings of

fruit a day? Cheers.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

mdstxag91

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

* Debra, are you getting enough short &

medium chain fatty acids in

your diet? You had mentioned offline a while back that you were a

Protein Type, so I assume that you are familiar with Wolcott's work.

Depending on how fast you " oxidize " (or your degree of

parasympathetic dominance), perhaps consider increasing saturated fat

intake while eliminating grains altogether. The decision to abandon

grains is wise, but keep in mind that Paleo is a lean meat diet which

can slow down or impede healing due to the lack of fats.

The feeling of fullness and energy that a Protein Type typically

experiences after eating grains is a fleeting moment. Depending on

your degree of parasympathetic dominance and the glycemic index of

the grains eaten, the metabolic nightmare which will ensue throws

insulin and leptin levels out of balance. In addition,

neurotransmitters (like serotonin) are released in the brain after

eating grains that can literally turn Protein Type's into " grain

junkies " . To reverse this cycle of addiction and restore such

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There you go " mdstxag91 " you can give helpful contributions. Thanks

raw virgin coconut oil, ev-olive oil and ghee (homemade) are the fats I use.

add to everything

consume at each meal

and eat more in the winter

thoughts on cravings----

1. grains are a drug! eliminating is important, every serving can continue

reacting in you system for 3-5 days

2. nutritional deficiency! many overeaters are actually deficient from

eating poor food, as you eat better and the body gets satisfied the hunger

stabilizes

3. water! sometimes feelings of hunger are actually dehydration, try to

drink 1/2 to 3/4 cup of water *every hour* all day long and see what that

does, you may need a couple weeks to stabilize

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:56 PM, mdstxag91 <mdstxag91@...> wrote:

> Debra, are you getting enough short & medium chain fatty acids in

> your diet? You had mentioned offline a while back that you were a

> Protein Type, so I assume that you are familiar with Wolcott's work.

> Depending on how fast you " oxidize " (or your degree of

> parasympathetic dominance), perhaps consider increasing saturated fat

> intake while eliminating grains altogether. The decision to abandon

> grains is wise, but keep in mind that Paleo is a lean meat diet which

> can slow down or impede healing due to the lack of fats.

>

> The feeling of fullness and energy that a Protein Type typically

> experiences after eating grains is a fleeting moment. Depending on

> your degree of parasympathetic dominance and the glycemic index of

> the grains eaten, the metabolic nightmare which will ensue throws

> insulin and leptin levels out of balance. In addition,

> neurotransmitters (like serotonin) are released in the brain after

> eating grains that can literally turn Protein Type's into " grain

> junkies " . To reverse this cycle of addiction and restore such

> biochemical and neurochemical imbalances (cravings, withdrawals and

> energy crashes) will usually takes about 48 to 72 hours of being

> grain free.

>

> The saturated fat that I've found (other than the stearic acid in

> grass fed beef) that is the best and easiest to use is coconut oil.

> The brand that I prefer is Wilderness Family Naturals: " extra virgin,

> cold- pressed, centrifuged extracted, 100% organic " coconut oil.

> Should you decide to try this, remember to go easy at first. Some

> folks (myself included) report an incredible adrenal rush after first

> using coconut oil. This usually subsides after the first or second

> time, but still continues to provide sustained energy and fullness

> throughout the day.

>

> In addition, only consume raw coconut oil…at least for the first few

> months. Even though coconut oil is probably the most stable and safe

> cooking oil, heat will alter its ability to bind with and remove

> toxins from the body. Most people loose large amounts of weight &

> body fat while on coconut oil. This body fat will naturally contain

> toxins that can easily be absorbed and removed by a fat like coconut

> oil ONLY if it remains in its raw state.

>

> Finally, coconut oil also aids in healing " leaky gut " syndrome. The

> lauric acid in coconut oil helps kill harmful intestinal pathogens

> brought about by things like eating grains, while encouraging

> friendly intestinal flora to repopulate the gut. For maximum

> intestinal repair and healing, cultured raw dairy works the best.

>

>

> >

> > , I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have

> decided to

> > give up grains for now to see if I can regain health. I guess I am

> doing

> > more of a Paleo diet with BT Avoids. From what I have been reading,

> some

> > doctors theorized that leaky gut can be cause by grains. Some even

> say high

> > levels of estrogen which I was own for several years. Whatever the

> reason, I

> > do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have is

> for those

> > that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full? Hunger seems to

> be a

> > problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Village culture teaches everything from experience and passing on facts

from one generation to next.

When turmeric, honey etc were not at hand for wound dressing, author

witnessed use of a cloth dipped in coconut oil, applied as plaster band

on wound and it would heal. The same oil was used by uncle to make an

ointment for healing burns. The words such as anti-microbial, anti-

fungal etc were learnt 20 years later!

Re: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

There you go " mdstxag91 " you can give helpful contributions. Thanks

raw virgin coconut oil, ev-olive oil and ghee (homemade) are the fats I use.

add to everything

consume at each meal

and eat more in the winter

thoughts on cravings----

1. grains are a drug! eliminating is important, every serving can continue

reacting in you system for 3-5 days

2. nutritional deficiency! many overeaters are actually deficient from

eating poor food, as you eat better and the body gets satisfied the hunger

stabilizes

3. water! sometimes feelings of hunger are actually dehydration, try to

drink 1/2 to 3/4 cup of water *every hour* all day long and see what that

does, you may need a couple weeks to stabilize

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:56 PM, mdstxag91 <mdstxag91@...> wrote:

> Debra, are you getting enough short & medium chain fatty acids in

> your diet? You had mentioned offline a while back that you were a

> Protein Type, so I assume that you are familiar with Wolcott's work.

> Depending on how fast you " oxidize " (or your degree of

> parasympathetic dominance), perhaps consider increasing saturated fat

> intake while eliminating grains altogether. The decision to abandon

> grains is wise, but keep in mind that Paleo is a lean meat diet which

> can slow down or impede healing due to the lack of fats.

>

> The feeling of fullness and energy that a Protein Type typically

> experiences after eating grains is a fleeting moment. Depending on

> your degree of parasympathetic dominance and the glycemic index of

> the grains eaten, the metabolic nightmare which will ensue throws

> insulin and leptin levels out of balance. In addition,

> neurotransmitters (like serotonin) are released in the brain after

> eating grains that can literally turn Protein Type's into " grain

> junkies " . To reverse this cycle of addiction and restore such

> biochemical and neurochemical imbalances (cravings, withdrawals and

> energy crashes) will usually takes about 48 to 72 hours of being

> grain free.

>

> The saturated fat that I've found (other than the stearic acid in

> grass fed beef) that is the best and easiest to use is coconut oil.

> The brand that I prefer is Wilderness Family Naturals: " extra virgin,

> cold- pressed, centrifuged extracted, 100% organic " coconut oil.

> Should you decide to try this, remember to go easy at first. Some

> folks (myself included) report an incredible adrenal rush after first

> using coconut oil. This usually subsides after the first or second

> time, but still continues to provide sustained energy and fullness

> throughout the day.

>

> In addition, only consume raw coconut oil.at least for the first few

> months. Even though coconut oil is probably the most stable and safe

> cooking oil, heat will alter its ability to bind with and remove

> toxins from the body. Most people loose large amounts of weight &

> body fat while on coconut oil. This body fat will naturally contain

> toxins that can easily be absorbed and removed by a fat like coconut

> oil ONLY if it remains in its raw state.

>

> Finally, coconut oil also aids in healing " leaky gut " syndrome. The

> lauric acid in coconut oil helps kill harmful intestinal pathogens

> brought about by things like eating grains, while encouraging

> friendly intestinal flora to repopulate the gut. For maximum

> intestinal repair and healing, cultured raw dairy works the best.

>

>

> >

> > , I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have

> decided to

> > give up grains for now to see if I can regain health. I guess I am

> doing

> > more of a Paleo diet with BT Avoids. From what I have been reading,

> some

> > doctors theorized that leaky gut can be cause by grains. Some even

> say high

> > levels of estrogen which I was own for several years. Whatever the

> reason, I

> > do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have is

> for those

> > that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full? Hunger seems to

> be a

> > problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Fats: beef, butter/ghee, olive oil, avocadoes(beneficial for non secretors),

nuts.

________________________________

From: Debra <mermaideeee@...>

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:06:01 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Thanks for your post. Yes, actually I said Paleo but I follow more of the

metabolic or McFerran's Hunter Gather diet which recommends the

fattier meats especially organs. I do like fatty meats (hamburger, rib eye).

I've been thinking though of how I could incorporate more fats into my diet.

Avocado? I know that is an avoid but some people do okay with it. It's funny

you mentioned coconut oil. There's a big discussion about it on the Ayurveda

board and how beneficial it is. I used it in my banana bread I made last

week. I am out of it and need to restock. I think I will try to eliminate

most grains especially those with yeast in it. But if I am feeling the

craving, maybe the brown rice is the answer. After all, the Japanese eat it

all the time. I am absolutely a parasympathetic dominant. I think I lean to

the left of the scale as well. Lots of fire in my belly and charts. Did you

say you've gone off grains completely? I would love to add more fruit to my

diet to compensate for grains. Have you been able to eat several servings of

fruit a day? Cheers.

_____

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mdstxag91

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:56 PM

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Subject: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

* Debra, are you getting enough short &

medium chain fatty acids in

your diet? You had mentioned offline a while back that you were a

Protein Type, so I assume that you are familiar with Wolcott's work.

Depending on how fast you " oxidize " (or your degree of

parasympathetic dominance), perhaps consider increasing saturated fat

intake while eliminating grains altogether. The decision to abandon

grains is wise, but keep in mind that Paleo is a lean meat diet which

can slow down or impede healing due to the lack of fats.

The feeling of fullness and energy that a Protein Type typically

experiences after eating grains is a fleeting moment. Depending on

your degree of parasympathetic dominance and the glycemic index of

the grains eaten, the metabolic nightmare which will ensue throws

insulin and leptin levels out of balance. In addition,

neurotransmitters (like serotonin) are released in the brain after

eating grains that can literally turn Protein Type's into " grain

junkies " . To reverse this cycle of addiction and restore such

biochemical and neurochemical imbalances (cravings, withdrawals and

energy crashes) will usually takes about 48 to 72 hours of being

grain free.

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As a filler for soup I avoid the corn starch for type O....

I use some mashed up beans and/or sweet potato...it works well.

I too am always starving without grains but do find good soups/stews

help lots.

Also use mashed turnips/parsnips/carrots to thicken....yummy!

Local market carrying chopped buffalo meat now...is excellent and

lean but very filling!

>

> > , I would like to know that too. I have leaky gut and have

> > decided to

> > give up grains for now to see if I can regain health.

>

> I gave up all kinds of wheat first but generally avoid all grains

> except a bit if rice - best dietary decision I made.

>

> >

>

> > Some even say high

> > levels of estrogen

>

> This can cause skewed immune system issues - and leaky gut is one.

>

>

> > which I was own for several years. Whatever the reason, I

> > do think eliminating grains will help. The only question I have

is

> > for those

> > that have eliminated grains, how do you stay full?

>

> Good question. It is more difficult.

> I do use a FEW rice crackers with cheese now and then, but

basically

> I incfreased my high-antioxidant vegetables, my good fatty acids

and

> my protein.

> Nuts and dried fruit make good snacks to fill up. My meals are

> loaded with veg.

> Breakfast: Half a baked chicken thigh with a teaspoon of EV olive

> oil, 4 rice crackers with Havarti cheese, a latte and my usual

> supplements that include Vit E and fish oil. (Latte and Havarti

works

> for me, but is not O-compliant, and I can not eat much at brekker

> time. the fatty acids sustain me and slow the lactose and rice

> absorption.

> Later I snacked on the rest of the chicken and added a few

nuts.)

> Last night: Pepper-turkey organic sausage (2 of them), mixed

> mushrooms, mixed color peppers, beans, broccoli, and a small sweet

> potato.

> Lunch: Cheeseburger from the deli minus bun, with plenty leaf

> lettuce, red onion and tomato, and a side of steamed yams.

> Plus a piece of dark chocolate and one of dried mango for desert.

> (Lunch is my main meal)

>

> I substitute a lot, such as: Instead of pizza use omelette with

pizza

> toppings in it.

> Instead of a bun or bread, use lettuce, tomato, onion, and/or

steamed

> veg of any kind or salad - aloways with some EV OLIVE Oil.

>

>

>

> > Hunger seems to be a

> > problem for me whenever I do a no grain diet.

>

> Fill up on (fresh or dried) fruit and nuts if you crave carbs,

> I do find that even just a few rice crackers, helps.

> My other filler is very thick soup - I am looking for artichoke

flour

> to u se for thickiening but currently have settled for rice flour

or

> corn starch. The right beans are also very filling as in spicy

chili

> soup..... but I find i ned to consume beans before noon for best

> results.

> Also there are nutrients in rice bran that are hard to get

> elsewherre. I keep telling myself to use and allow rice bran, but

it

> is not that easy to incloude - not great as hamburger or salad

> dressing for example:-) I eat out mostly, so it is hard to plan

> meals too well, these are some of my workarounds.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

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> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary

Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Debra, it appears that I am not receiving every message

via email (found this one by accident while scanning the message

archives).

I regularly incorporate low glycemic raw fruits (including avocados,

tomatoes, berries & unripe bananas). Even though tomatoes are an avoid,

they do not seem to bother me and actually help remove acidic wastes

from the blood.

Due to the fact that I regularly eat raw red meat, I do not eat most

other fruits very often because they interfere with healing and create

various other metabolic disturbances.

-Mike

> From: Debra <mermaideeee@...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:06:01 AM

> Subject: RE: Re: Negativity? Demoralizing?

Have you been able to eat several servings of

> fruit a day? Cheers.