Re: Iodine and age spots/liver spots/sun damaged skin

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I'm taking the Lugol's 50--75mg/day, and at night applying Iodine tincture topically. We'll see....going after those spots from inside and out.

Vj

From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>Subject: Re: biopsies or not?iodine Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:51 PM

-How are you using iodine to try to remove sun spots? and what kind ofiodine are you using for it. I'd like to try it too!Blessings-Vicki> > Thanks Comdyne, for your generous response, as usual.> > You say:> "If you change your lifestyle, clean out and maintain intestinal> stasis and replace missing nutrients, the cancer will go away on its> own. Tumors will dissolve, their job being done. No

professional> intervention is required. All it takes is a understanding of how this> disease manifests itself, then the answer becomes obvious."> > You know - when I got diagnosed, I had already lived a healthylifestyle for almost a decade. And even before my "switch," I lived a > "rather" healthy lifestyle, to the best of my then knowledge. Butthe last 7-8 years, I dropped all processed foods, went organic, > began daily excercise, began yoga, did annual cleanses of allorgans, replaced my missing and depleted nutrients among other > things - and I STILL got cancer!> > As you can imagine - right after my diagnosis, my faith in naturalhealth and healing was a tad shaken and I was really lost for a > bit, not knowing what to do - chemo, I was afraid of and "aunaturelle" I no longer could trust!> > It seemed that if the natural health method didn't even

work to"prevent" cancer, which is a heck of a lot easier to accomplish, it > certainly couldn't possibly have much effect on established cancer !> > This is still my struggle, from first-hand experience - naturalhealth and healing has failed me.> > And yet, I so want to believe in it working!> > Angel> > 1b.> > Re: biopsies or not?> Posted by: "DrDvorak" drdvorakswbell (DOT) net dennis_dvorak> Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:36 am (PDT)> Hi Jerry and group,> > I try to be careful with that which I post that it does> indeed relate to iodine. In this case, "oils" may relate to cell> permeability and therefore the absorption of iodine. Realize that mypurpose> is interested in learning with the following. My understanding ofwhat you> term "oils" I'm assuming is analogous to fatty acids. According to atext>

written by Ed Siegel (Essential Fatty Acids in Health and Disease),> saturated fatty acids, such as butter or animal fat are hard at room> temperature. Fats composed mainly of monounsaturated fatty acids,are softer> and often liquid at room temperature, such as olive and peanut oil. Fats> made of mostly polyunsaturated fatty acids, are liquid at roomtemperature;> examples are most vegetable oils. If I understand that which you said,> predicated on oils = fatty acids, the only ones that are not problematic> are related to animal products. Further in the same text, they describe> essential fatty acids with that nomenclature "parent" referring to> (regarding Omega three - Linolenic) in that it would be the source for> example that fish (daughters) eat to produce EPA. What you've stated is> different from that which have learned. Could you possibly havereference

to> what we in the oil patch call "fracked" (broken up) - trans fatty acids?> Please elucidate further.> > Always interested in learning.> > Dennis Dvorak> > Hi Dennis and group,> I was thinking about the coconut oil and fatty acids in the coconutmilk when talking about saturated fats. Most animal fats are the > consistency of polyunsaturated fatty acids that saturated fat. Theirfeeding with corn and soy seems to cause this type of fatty > acid production. Plant saturated fats are solid below 74 degrees Fand liquid above 76 degrees F. So at our body temperature they > are liquid.> Unsturated oils are refrigerated to keep them from oxidizing afteropening. I surmise that if they can oxidize at room temperature > then they will certainly oxidize at our body temperature. Thesefatty acids are wrapped in protein to enter the water system of

the > body bathing our cells with this oxidative mix. Then triglyceridesare formed as the body prepares to store these fatty acids.> Saturated plant fatty acids are not wrapped in protein to enter theblood stream and go directly to the liver for use by the body. I > don't remember the exact online sources of this information but asearch for medium chain triglycerides will bring up many sources.> Trans fats are from the partially or hydrogenated oils made toharden otherwise unsaturated fatty acids. These are not healthy.> Our bodies are able to make the "Essential" fatty acids from healthyfree range meats. Also fish that are farm raised do not have > the same healthy fatty acid make-up that fish in the ocean do.Anytime animals or fish are fed a diet that is not natural to them > their bodies respond by makeing them fat and more valuble when takento market. I know farmers with

cattle they sell at market and > beef they use for their own consumption. The market beef get cornand soybeans to fatten them up and the cows they eat are pastured. > The fat difference is the pastured cattle have about 15% fat whereasthe others have as much as 50% fat. Of course the products of > the grain fed beef are unhealthy as well.> I do have some info on the fatty acids attached to this email. Don'tknow if it will et through.> jerry>

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Would it remove a mole topically? How much lugol's? Sanr

I'm taking the Lugol's 50--75mg/day, and at night applying Iodine tincture

topically. We'll see....going after those spots from

inside and out.

Vj

From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>

Subject: Re: biopsies or not?

iodine

Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:51 PM

-

How are you using iodine to try to remove sun spots? and what kind of

iodine are you using for it. I'd like to try it too!

Blessings-

Vicki

>

> Thanks Comdyne, for your generous response, as usual.

>

> You say:

> " If you change your lifestyle, clean out and maintain intestinal

> stasis and replace missing nutrients, the cancer will go away on its

> own. Tumors will dissolve, their job being done. No professional

> intervention is required. All it takes is a understanding of how this

> disease manifests itself, then the answer becomes obvious. "

>

> You know - when I got diagnosed, I had already lived a healthy

lifestyle for almost a decade. And even before my " switch, " I lived a

> " rather " healthy lifestyle, to the best of my then knowledge. But

the last 7-8 years, I dropped all processed foods, went organic,

> began daily excercise, began yoga, did annual cleanses of all

organs, replaced my missing and depleted nutrients among other

> things - and I STILL got cancer!

>

> As you can imagine - right after my diagnosis, my faith in natural

health and healing was a tad shaken and I was really lost for a

> bit, not knowing what to do - chemo, I was afraid of and " au

naturelle " I no longer could trust!

>

> It seemed that if the natural health method didn't even work to

" prevent " cancer, which is a heck of a lot easier to accomplish, it

> certainly couldn't possibly have much effect on established cancer !

>

> This is still my struggle, from first-hand experience - natural

health and healing has failed me.

>

> And yet, I so want to believe in it working!

>

> Angel

>

> 1b.

>

> Re: biopsies or not?

> Posted by: " DrDvorak " drdvorakswbell (DOT) net dennis_dvorak

> Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:36 am (PDT)

> Hi Jerry and group,

>

> I try to be careful with that which I post that it does

> indeed relate to iodine. In this case, " oils " may relate to cell

> permeability and therefore the absorption of iodine. Realize that my

purpose

> is interested in learning with the following. My understanding of

what you

> term " oils " I'm assuming is analogous to fatty acids. According to a

text

> written by Ed Siegel (Essential Fatty Acids in Health and Disease),

> saturated fatty acids, such as butter or animal fat are hard at room

> temperature. Fats composed mainly of monounsaturated fatty acids,

are softer

> and often liquid at room temperature, such as olive and peanut oil. Fats

> made of mostly polyunsaturated fatty acids, are liquid at room

temperature;

> examples are most vegetable oils. If I understand that which you said,

> predicated on oils = fatty acids, the only ones that are not problematic

> are related to animal products. Further in the same text, they describe

> essential fatty acids with that nomenclature " parent " referring to

> (regarding Omega three - Linolenic) in that it would be the source for

> example that fish (daughters) eat to produce EPA. What you've stated is

> different from that which have learned. Could you possibly have

reference to

> what we in the oil patch call " fracked " (broken up) - trans fatty acids?

> Please elucidate further.

>

> Always interested in learning.

>

> Dennis Dvorak

>

> Hi Dennis and group,

> I was thinking about the coconut oil and fatty acids in the coconut

milk when talking about saturated fats. Most animal fats are the

> consistency of polyunsaturated fatty acids that saturated fat. Their

feeding with corn and soy seems to cause this type of fatty

> acid production. Plant saturated fats are solid below 74 degrees F

and liquid above 76 degrees F. So at our body temperature they

> are liquid.

> Unsturated oils are refrigerated to keep them from oxidizing after

opening. I surmise that if they can oxidize at room temperature

> then they will certainly oxidize at our body temperature. These

fatty acids are wrapped in protein to enter the water system of the

> body bathing our cells with this oxidative mix. Then triglycerides

are formed as the body prepares to store these fatty acids.

> Saturated plant fatty acids are not wrapped in protein to enter the

blood stream and go directly to the liver for use by the body. I

> don't remember the exact online sources of this information but a

search for medium chain triglycerides will bring up many sources.

> Trans fats are from the partially or hydrogenated oils made to

harden otherwise unsaturated fatty acids. These are not healthy.

> Our bodies are able to make the " Essential " fatty acids from healthy

free range meats. Also fish that are farm raised do not have

> the same healthy fatty acid make-up that fish in the ocean do.

Anytime animals or fish are fed a diet that is not natural to them

> their bodies respond by makeing them fat and more valuble when taken

to market. I know farmers with cattle they sell at market and

> beef they use for their own consumption. The market beef get corn

and soybeans to fatten them up and the cows they eat are pastured.

> The fat difference is the pastured cattle have about 15% fat whereas

the others have as much as 50% fat. Of course the products of

> the grain fed beef are unhealthy as well.

> I do have some info on the fatty acids attached to this email. Don't

know if it will et through.

> jerry

>

[Guest guest]

Good idea, I'll try the tincture too on my least favorite spot. We can

compare notes (or spots) in a few months! :)I start on 100 mg Iodoral

tomorrow.

> >

> > Thanks Comdyne, for your generous response, as usual.

> >

> > You say:

> > " If you change your lifestyle, clean out and maintain intestinal

> > stasis and replace missing nutrients, the cancer will go away on its

> > own. Tumors will dissolve, their job being done. No professional

> > intervention is required. All it takes is a understanding of how this

> > disease manifests itself, then the answer becomes obvious. "

> >

> > You know - when I got diagnosed, I had already lived a healthy

> lifestyle for almost a decade. And even before my " switch, " I lived a

> > " rather " healthy lifestyle, to the best of my then knowledge. But

> the last 7-8 years, I dropped all processed foods, went organic,

> > began daily excercise, began yoga, did annual cleanses of all

> organs, replaced my missing and depleted nutrients among other

> > things - and I STILL got cancer!

> >

> > As you can imagine - right after my diagnosis, my faith in natural

> health and healing was a tad shaken and I was really lost for a

> > bit, not knowing what to do - chemo, I was afraid of and " au

> naturelle " I no longer could trust!

> >

> > It seemed that if the natural health method didn't even work to

> " prevent " cancer, which is a heck of a lot easier to accomplish, it

> > certainly couldn't possibly have much effect on established cancer !

> >

> > This is still my struggle, from first-hand experience - natural

> health and healing has failed me.

> >

> > And yet, I so want to believe in it working!

> >

> > Angel

> >

> > 1b.

> >

> > Re: biopsies or not?

> > Posted by: " DrDvorak " drdvorakswbell (DOT) net dennis_dvorak

> > Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:36 am (PDT)

> > Hi Jerry and group,

> >

> > I try to be careful with that which I post that it does

> > indeed relate to iodine. In this case, " oils " may relate to cell

> > permeability and therefore the absorption of iodine. Realize that my

> purpose

> > is interested in learning with the following. My understanding of

> what you

> > term " oils " I'm assuming is analogous to fatty acids. According to a

> text

> > written by Ed Siegel (Essential Fatty Acids in Health and Disease),

> > saturated fatty acids, such as butter or animal fat are hard at room

> > temperature. Fats composed mainly of monounsaturated fatty acids,

> are softer

> > and often liquid at room temperature, such as olive and peanut

oil. Fats

> > made of mostly polyunsaturated fatty acids, are liquid at room

> temperature;

> > examples are most vegetable oils. If I understand that which you said,

> > predicated on oils = fatty acids, the only ones that are not

problematic

> > are related to animal products. Further in the same text, they

describe

> > essential fatty acids with that nomenclature " parent " referring to

> > (regarding Omega three - Linolenic) in that it would be the source for

> > example that fish (daughters) eat to produce EPA. What you've

stated is

> > different from that which have learned. Could you possibly have

> reference to

> > what we in the oil patch call " fracked " (broken up) - trans fatty

acids?

> > Please elucidate further.

> >

> > Always interested in learning.

> >

> > Dennis Dvorak

> >

> > Hi Dennis and group,

> > I was thinking about the coconut oil and fatty acids in the coconut

> milk when talking about saturated fats. Most animal fats are the

> > consistency of polyunsaturated fatty acids that saturated fat. Their

> feeding with corn and soy seems to cause this type of fatty

> > acid production. Plant saturated fats are solid below 74 degrees F

> and liquid above 76 degrees F. So at our body temperature they

> > are liquid.

> > Unsturated oils are refrigerated to keep them from oxidizing after

> opening. I surmise that if they can oxidize at room temperature

> > then they will certainly oxidize at our body temperature. These

> fatty acids are wrapped in protein to enter the water system of the

> > body bathing our cells with this oxidative mix. Then triglycerides

> are formed as the body prepares to store these fatty acids.

> > Saturated plant fatty acids are not wrapped in protein to enter the

> blood stream and go directly to the liver for use by the body. I

> > don't remember the exact online sources of this information but a

> search for medium chain triglycerides will bring up many sources.

> > Trans fats are from the partially or hydrogenated oils made to

> harden otherwise unsaturated fatty acids. These are not healthy.

> > Our bodies are able to make the " Essential " fatty acids from healthy

> free range meats. Also fish that are farm raised do not have

> > the same healthy fatty acid make-up that fish in the ocean do.

> Anytime animals or fish are fed a diet that is not natural to them

> > their bodies respond by makeing them fat and more valuble when taken

> to market. I know farmers with cattle they sell at market and

> > beef they use for their own consumption. The market beef get corn

> and soybeans to fatten them up and the cows they eat are pastured.

> > The fat difference is the pastured cattle have about 15% fat whereas

> the others have as much as 50% fat. Of course the products of

> > the grain fed beef are unhealthy as well.

> > I do have some info on the fatty acids attached to this email. Don't

> know if it will et through.

> > jerry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The only thing I can say is, try it and see. I'm relatively new to the Iodine information, but I can tell you that overall, I feel much better since taking it daily. At this point, I'd have a hard time imagining a problem that Iodine couldn't improve or remedy.

Perhaps another user has experience in mole removal. Someone posted earlier about a wart disappearing. Wow, huh? Awesome and exciting.

Vj

From: vsloss1 <vsloss1 (DOT) com>Subject: Re: biopsies or not?iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:51 PM-How are you using iodine to try to remove sun spots? and what kind ofiodine are you using for it. I'd like to try it too!Blessings-Vicki>> Thanks Comdyne, for your generous response, as usual.>> You say:> "If you change your lifestyle, clean out and maintain intestinal> stasis and replace missing nutrients, the cancer will go away on its> own. Tumors will dissolve, their job being done. No professional> intervention is required. All it takes is a understanding of how this> disease manifests itself, then the answer becomes obvious.">> You know - when I got diagnosed, I had already lived a healthylifestyle for almost a decade. And even before my "switch," I lived a> "rather" healthy lifestyle, to the best of my then knowledge. Butthe last 7-8 years, I dropped all processed foods, went organic,> began daily excercise, began yoga, did annual cleanses of allorgans, replaced my missing and depleted

nutrients among other> things - and I STILL got cancer!>> As you can imagine - right after my diagnosis, my faith in naturalhealth and healing was a tad shaken and I was really lost for a> bit, not knowing what to do - chemo, I was afraid of and "aunaturelle" I no longer could trust!>> It seemed that if the natural health method didn't even work to"prevent" cancer, which is a heck of a lot easier to accomplish, it> certainly couldn't possibly have much effect on established cancer !>> This is still my struggle, from first-hand experience - naturalhealth and healing has failed me.>> And yet, I so want to believe in it working!>> Angel>> 1b.>> Re: biopsies or not?> Posted by: "DrDvorak" drdvorakswbell (DOT) net dennis_dvorak> Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:36 am (PDT)> Hi Jerry and group,>> I try to be

careful with that which I post that it does> indeed relate to iodine. In this case, "oils" may relate to cell> permeability and therefore the absorption of iodine. Realize that mypurpose> is interested in learning with the following. My understanding ofwhat you> term "oils" I'm assuming is analogous to fatty acids. According to atext> written by Ed Siegel (Essential Fatty Acids in Health and Disease),> saturated fatty acids, such as butter or animal fat are hard at room> temperature. Fats composed mainly of monounsaturated fatty acids,are softer> and often liquid at room temperature, such as olive and peanut oil. Fats> made of mostly polyunsaturated fatty acids, are liquid at roomtemperature;> examples are most vegetable oils. If I understand that which you said,> predicated on oils = fatty acids, the only ones that are not problematic> are related to

animal products. Further in the same text, they describe> essential fatty acids with that nomenclature "parent" referring to> (regarding Omega three - Linolenic) in that it would be the source for> example that fish (daughters) eat to produce EPA. What you've stated is> different from that which have learned. Could you possibly havereference to> what we in the oil patch call "fracked" (broken up) - trans fatty acids?> Please elucidate further.>> Always interested in learning.>> Dennis Dvorak>> Hi Dennis and group,> I was thinking about the coconut oil and fatty acids in the coconutmilk when talking about saturated fats. Most animal fats are the> consistency of polyunsaturated fatty acids that saturated fat. Theirfeeding with corn and soy seems to cause this type of fatty> acid production. Plant saturated fats are solid below 74 degrees

Fand liquid above 76 degrees F. So at our body temperature they> are liquid.> Unsturated oils are refrigerated to keep them from oxidizing afteropening. I surmise that if they can oxidize at room temperature> then they will certainly oxidize at our body temperature. Thesefatty acids are wrapped in protein to enter the water system of the> body bathing our cells with this oxidative mix. Then triglyceridesare formed as the body prepares to store these fatty acids.> Saturated plant fatty acids are not wrapped in protein to enter theblood stream and go directly to the liver for use by the body. I> don't remember the exact online sources of this information but asearch for medium chain triglycerides will bring up many sources.> Trans fats are from the partially or hydrogenated oils made toharden otherwise unsaturated fatty acids. These are not healthy.> Our bodies are able to

make the "Essential" fatty acids from healthyfree range meats. Also fish that are farm raised do not have> the same healthy fatty acid make-up that fish in the ocean do.Anytime animals or fish are fed a diet that is not natural to them> their bodies respond by makeing them fat and more valuble when takento market. I know farmers with cattle they sell at market and> beef they use for their own consumption. The market beef get cornand soybeans to fatten them up and the cows they eat are pastured.> The fat difference is the pastured cattle have about 15% fat whereasthe others have as much as 50% fat. Of course the products of> the grain fed beef are unhealthy as well.> I do have some info on the fatty acids attached to this email. Don'tknow if it will et through.> jerry>