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What a bummer!

My X-rays showed beautiful knees, but the MRI showed CP, a torn meniscus, a

tear in the ACL, and something weird about the lateral collateral ligament.

Now my new OS is sending me for a bone scan because apparently that will

show anything that might be wrong with the bones that didn't show up on the

X-ray.

I think it's a little peculiar that your GP " didn't have time to read your

med. notes " , since she should have read it before 9:00 if that was your

actual appointment time, no?

Hopefully when you see her next time (did you make the Sept. appt?) she'll

be on the ball.

Ann

My GP visit

> well I went to the GP. it was a bit of a drame and a I didn't get quite

what

> I wanted but I think there are finally some positive moves.

>

> well what happend was this I thought my appointment was a 9.30 so I left

mie

> a quarter past. then when I got out my appointment card it said " 9.00 " I

> know that that would cause a problem but I had already waited a month so I

> went any way and explained that I miss read the appointment card. when I

got

> to see my doctor she said that she didn't have time to read my medical

> notes. initialy she said come back some time in september because they are

> busy because it is the summer holidays. I said that I would prefer to get

> something done now. so after a bit of huffing she said she would read my

> notes when she had some time and would phone me to let me know how she

> thinks we should proceed. well just a few minutes ago she did.

>

> she said she wants to send me for another X-ray because the last one was

so

> long ago. I know X-rays aren't the best diagnositic tool in this situation

> but I'm will int o give it ago for two reason. the first is that my

> radiographer friend said that it wouldn't show anything unless you

couldn't

> walk on it. and at the moment walking is painful. the second is that when

I

> went to a Physio theropist he said that my knee sounded and felt like

> something should have shown up. so while doubtful I'm going to give it a

go.

>

> she also mentioned the orthopedic specialist but she said that she didn't

> want to send to one before the x-ray.

>

> so getting some where very very slowly!

>

> bye for now Hannah.

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> Seems to me that doctors have lost their ability to examine and

prescribe for people, this chap has never even looked at me and makes

decisions by looking at his computer. ...........

When the NHS was introduced after the second world war doctors were

afraid they might lose their independence. There was a lot of concern

and debate about it at the time. They probably didn't foresee the

impact of technology either, which has reduced the roles of clinical

examination, experience and judgement even further.

Miriam

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Hi Janet,

I assume you may be in the Birmingham area, and that Dr Skinner's

practice is well-known and is the subject of local prejudice, not

helped by the BTA statement and Prof Jane lyn in particular, it

may be long-term 'professional opposition' with no regard for patient

well-being.

It seems that they have been trying to stop Dr Skinner for a long

time and slowly, slowly.....

When we went to the GMC hearing in Manchester, the expert witness

(Prof A Weetman) seemed to go into a different mode of speech when

setting out his direct opposition to Dr Skinner's practice; it was

almost robot-like, repeated from a memorised script.

Astonishingly, he was so adamant during cross-examination by Dr

Skinner's barrister that he would not utter the words that Dr

Prentice, later, found quite easy to utter....

ie that there are some circumstances (eg Myxoedema) in which the TSH

test and the Free T4 test are irrelevant, because the patient has a

50:50 chance of dying if nothing is done.

An example from a while back is illustrative: in that a patient in

the US (a well-known and internationally reputable transplant

centre ) was in an ICU and about to have his ventillator switched

off; his daughter made a reasoned plea for his treatment with T3 to

restore his periferal thyroid function ( lab result showing NO T3 ).

He had a liver complaint.

On being given T3, his myxoedema began to resolve and he has since

survived (4yrs) to have his liver transplant ( but not without the

now compulsory hospital acquired infection ).

[see the transcripts of the above proceedings on the TPA-UK website]

telephone support is available if two modes of information input can

overcome the 'spinning head' problem.

best wishes

Bob

>

> Hi everybody

>

> I have been offline for a bit while I quietly try and sort out my

> head and take in the stuff that is spinning around but still can't

> make any sense of anything or think of a realistic way forward for

> the long term.

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I

would write a letter to him and explain that as he didn't look at your symptoms

list and as he didn't appear interested in your health that you need to be

referred to an NHS endocrinologist and go under the care of a specialist in

this area. Is he even going to pay any attention to the findings of Dr

Skinner. This guy obviously is embarrassed because he does know so little - and

actually, I do feel quite sorry for them. Look how complicated we have found

this illness and when you realise that GP's are supposed to know a little about

everything, we are expecting a lot from them - especially when we know they are

not even being taught about the diagnosing and treatment correctly.

If

you are on Armour Janet, you MUST learn to look after yourself - your doctor

cannot do this because he knows nothing about it. They are not even taught about

T2,T1 and the other enzymes a normal thyroid makes. Also, do NOT have blood

tests if you have taken any thyroid hormone in the last 24 hours.

Sorry

you have had such a rotten time with him, I really do feel for you - been

there, done that, worn the T-shirt….but, I came out on top - even though

my Armour has now been stopped by the NHS. I will just have to do what I can to

make sure I am able to buy it myself, because the thought of reverting back to

a medication that almost killed me is not an option.

Luv -

Sheila

Hi

everybody

Seems to me that doctors have lost their ability to examine and prescribe for

people, this

chap has never even looked at me and makes decisions by looking at his

computer. They

just follow the instructions that if the blood test says this then they must

prescribe that,

so what on earth are we paying these guys for, any fool can fill this function

like a robot.

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