Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 In a message dated 11/8/2005 10:24:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, pfourier@... writes: Can anyone confirm bone/bone meal is the best source of calcium? I really don't know but I have read that bone meal is the least efficient way to get calcium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 In a message dated 11/8/2005 2:45:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, pfourier@... writes: Excellent reply ! Now, please tell me what's bad about pork spareribs? What I've read is that pork has an A antigen and, therefore, can cause lectin reactions. That being said I occasionally eat pork, bacon and ham and use the grease. It doesn't effect me if consumed in moderation. Everyone is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 In a message dated 11/8/2005 2:45:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, pfourier@... writes: Everything in the store has been de-boned except for spareribs and drum sticks. I'm tempted to ask the butcher if he's got them stashed in the back cooler. They sell them to bone meal supplement companies--LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 A cooked bone meal apparently makes the calcium & minerals difficult to absorb. Even many calcium supplements have minimal absorption. Apparently, the MCHA bone type calcium supplements are the most likely to help bone because the bone meal (MCHA) used is not cooked but from a freeze process. And remember, calcium is always pushed for bone loss but it is only 1 of hundreds (?) of nutrients needed to prevent bone loss. Like Vit D, magnesium, total trace minerals, etc. and exercise etc. dalmudlee <pfourier@...> wrote: Greetings Group Members, My positive holistic doctor has prescribed pork spareribs to derive ones full protein. Also, bone broth soup has been suggested to prevent bone fractures and osteoporosis. The only tip the doctor suggested was to add a little vinegar to leech-off calcium from the bone. Can anyone confirm bone/bone meal is the best source of calcium? Finding beef with bone-in is rare and am interested in your comments. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Lee, Forget the pork. It's an avoid for all blood types. The bone broth soup is supposed to be very good for preventing bone loss. A lot of people save all their bones and then add a little vinegar and cook the bones for 6 to 8 hours to get all the leachable calcium out. Then they cook carrots, celery, and onions with the broth. Of course you can season this any way you want. Bone Broth Soup Greetings Group Members, My positive holistic doctor has prescribed pork spareribs to derive ones full protein. Also, bone broth soup has been suggested to prevent bone fractures and osteoporosis. The only tip the doctor suggested was to add a little vinegar to leech-off calcium from the bone. Can anyone confirm bone/bone meal is the best source of calcium? Finding beef with bone-in is rare and am interested in your comments. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 > > Lee, > Forget the pork. It's an avoid for all blood types. The bone broth soup is supposed to be very good for preventing bone loss. A lot of people save all their bones and then add a little vinegar and cook the bones for 6 to 8 hours to get all the leachable calcium out. Then they cook carrots, celery, and onions with the broth. Of course you can season this any way you want. > Excellent reply ! Now, please tell me what's bad about pork spareribs? The Chinese consume this as their main source of protein, which produces positive results for them. The recipe that gives rave reviews from my experience is prepared in a slow cooker and includes LOTS of fresh ginger, soy sauce and sesame oil. Finally, what kind of bones are you referring to? Everything in the store has been de-boned except for spareribs and drum sticks. I'm tempted to ask the butcher if he's got them stashed in the back cooler. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Lee, Unless it has changed pork is one meat that has lectins that work against all 4 blood groups. That can be compared to giving an A a Type B blood transfusion.That is why it is an avoid. The whole purpose for eating this way is to avoid the foods that can cause lectin buildup, which causes many of our health problems. When I follow what I'm supposed to eat, I don't have Arthritis attacks, and I have more energy. When I get off and stay off a while (like vacation) I wonder at first why the back and joints in this 60+ body hurt more. Then I remember, and it makes it a whole lot easier to drop the avoids, and get back on track. Still keep in mind we are all individuals and react differently to different things. Re: Bone Broth Soup > > Lee, > Forget the pork. It's an avoid for all blood types. The bone broth soup is supposed to be very good for preventing bone loss. A lot of people save all their bones and then add a little vinegar and cook the bones for 6 to 8 hours to get all the leachable calcium out. Then they cook carrots, celery, and onions with the broth. Of course you can season this any way you want. > Excellent reply ! Now, please tell me what's bad about pork spareribs? The Chinese consume this as their main source of protein, which produces positive results for them. The recipe that gives rave reviews from my experience is prepared in a slow cooker and includes LOTS of fresh ginger, soy sauce and sesame oil. Finally, what kind of bones are you referring to? Everything in the store has been de-boned except for spareribs and drum sticks. I'm tempted to ask the butcher if he's got them stashed in the back cooler. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 --- wrote: > Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:23:16 -0000 > From: " dalmudlee " <pfourier@...> > Subject: Bone Broth Soup > > Greetings Group Members, > > My positive holistic doctor has prescribed pork spareribs to derive > ones full protein. Also, bone broth soup has been suggested to > prevent > bone fractures and osteoporosis. The only tip the doctor suggested > was > to add a little vinegar to leech-off calcium from the bone. > > Can anyone confirm bone/bone meal is the best source of calcium? > Finding beef with bone-in is rare and am interested in your comments. > > Lee > > Hello Lee, Broth is good not only for calcium but for other nutrients, especially gelatin. Gelatin is healing and helps the body absorb protein. You can buy soup bones pretty cheap. Might as well get good grass-fed organic soup bones, since they are inexpensive. You can buy them online if there aren't any in your area. I am posting my favorite beef broth recipe seperately. I LOVE it, you can use it for sauces as well as soups. - Tamara __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 >>Can anyone confirm bone/bone meal is the best source of calcium? What I can confirm, is that there is more to good bone density than just looking for calcium. Bone is a living tissue and as such is naturally replenished about every ten years. That is - the cells in your bones today are all new ones since ten years ago. The way the body gets rid of old bone cells and makes room for more, is through citric acid, which removes the calcium from the bone. So bear this in mind if you use citrus fruit much (especially as most of them are avoids). In addition to the removal mechanism, there is also a mechanism to prevent too fast removal of calcium from bone. the mechanism for this involves Vitamin K1 and Vitamin K2, both of which retain calcium in the bone. K3 does not have this effect. (K3 is artificial source Vit K). K1 comes from green leafy veg mainly - spinach being best and asparagus a poor 2nd. K2 comes from fermented foods like yogurt, kefir and fermented cheese like blue cheese - so K2 is often not O-compatible, but K1 is. So spinach will keep your bones healthy. So the bone calcium cycle is like having a bathtub with a leak, and you can either plug the leak or try to ru=n the water faster and hope it is good water. Adding calcium is like running the water faster where esating spinach will retain the calcium you have enough so that you oly need enough calcium absorbed to replace bone every ten years. The more calcium you eat, the more bone you will lose via the leak, as the caclium has to go somewhere, and unless your other minerals are balanced in intake, who's to say your bones will appreciate the forced speedy turnover. So I advise looking for Vit K1 sources over calcium sources. Calcium is okay as well, but I consider it 2nd in relevance to retaining boie. By the way this approach sure worked well for me. I may have mentioned befor - my last bone density scan shows " bones of a 30 year old " whereas I am 57 with cushing' syndrome - usually a syndrome that has bones crumble and break on just coughing. So I should mention cushings as well in regard to bone density: It is over-production of stress hormone cortisol. In other words if you want to lose bone, get all stressed on a regular basis or drink coffee or eat lliquorice (as both increase cortisol production), and you will be on the path to osteoporosis. Alternatiely, cortisol beaters are Vit E, green tea, vit C, pantothenic acid (B5), vit B6, and turmeric. So when you choose calcium - know *why* you are running the calcium tap faster:-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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