Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/2004 7:31:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cherylhcmba@... writes: Actually, the encyclopedia is the closest you'll find to that info. It will say that a food increases polyamines or inhibits metabolism, etc. I can't remember if that included info for non-secretors, if not, maybe he'll do a new version when the health library is finished. LOL--I was looking at the encyclopedia when I typed my email. My point is that many of the avoid foods are listed with no reason given but they must have had a reason to be listed as an avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/2004 7:59:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bloggertypeo@... writes: Most of the avoids for nonsecretors are tier II avoids for all Os, so that stems from the fact that nonsecretors need to follow a more strict form of the diet to maintain good health... That's all well and good but I just want to know why a particular food is listed as avoid. I think from the answers I'm getting that there probably isn't a place at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/2004 9:48:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, furryboots@... writes: Contains a component that can modify known disease susceptibility " . What component? what disease? how can it modify? One can not make an intelligent choice about a food without the details. Others say " contains lectin or other agglutinin " Well, the first one, I think, is technospeak for " it'll lower your immune system " (germs in the digestive tract like mold etc). The second one, I think, is techno speak for the lectins from the food react with type O blood or tissue. Agglutinates the blood (makes it all stick together so the body attacks it). How's that for an engineers explanation of biology? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I think it's a lot more complicated than that. I wish Dr. D'Adamo would at least go through the rationale for at least a few foods though. I'm pretty sure he will reclassify foods from time to time, mainly to incorporate new research, but not just limited to the three areas you mention. I think he looks at the balance of pluses and minuses for each food. Knowing him he probably has a computer program set up with different weights assigned to different factors. > My long standing question is, " Is there a website where the reasons for > specific foods being classified as avoids are explained? " So many foods just have > no reason, especially foods that are avoid for only non-secretors (eg apples, > honey, crab, mussels, buckwheat, brussels sprouts, etc). My understanding is > that there are 3 tests the food must pass to not be an avoid. 1. It doesn't > react with the blood, 2. It doesn't increase the bad bacteria in the digestive > tract, and 3. It doesn't leach minerals from the body or block their purpose. > I realize that I'm not stating them exactly but this is my understanding. > I've waited all these years for a list but haven't found any. It makes me > wonder that if they went back and retested some of these foods they might change > their designations. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Actually, the encyclopedia is the closest you'll find to that info. It will say that a food increases polyamines or inhibits metabolism, etc. I can't remember if that included info for non-secretors, if not, maybe he'll do a new version when the health library is finished. > My long standing question is, " Is there a website where the reasons for > specific foods being classified as avoids are explained? " So many foods just have > no reason, especially foods that are avoid for only non-secretors (eg apples, > honey, crab, mussels, buckwheat, brussels sprouts, etc). My understanding is > that there are 3 tests the food must pass to not be an avoid. 1. It doesn't > react with the blood, 2. It doesn't increase the bad bacteria in the digestive > tract, and 3. It doesn't leach minerals from the body or block their purpose. > I realize that I'm not stating them exactly but this is my understanding. > I've waited all these years for a list but haven't found any. It makes me > wonder that if they went back and retested some of these foods they might change > their designations. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Most of the avoids for nonsecretors are tier II avoids for all Os, so that stems from the fact that nonsecretors need to follow a more strict form of the diet to maintain good health...due to our immune and metabolic disadvantages. Why they are tier II avoids is another question, but Live Right may address that. Re: Avoid Foods I think it's a lot more complicated than that. I wish Dr. D'Adamo would at least go through the rationale for at least a few foods though. I'm pretty sure he will reclassify foods from time to time, mainly to incorporate new research, but not just limited to the three areas you mention. I think he looks at the balance of pluses and minuses for each food. Knowing him he probably has a computer program set up with different weights assigned to different factors. > My long standing question is, " Is there a website where the reasons for > specific foods being classified as avoids are explained? " So many foods just have > no reason, especially foods that are avoid for only non-secretors (eg apples, > honey, crab, mussels, buckwheat, brussels sprouts, etc). My understanding is > that there are 3 tests the food must pass to not be an avoid. 1. It doesn't > react with the blood, 2. It doesn't increase the bad bacteria in the digestive > tract, and 3. It doesn't leach minerals from the body or block their purpose. > I realize that I'm not stating them exactly but this is my understanding. > I've waited all these years for a list but haven't found any. It makes me > wonder that if they went back and retested some of these foods they might change > their designations. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I hope the new typebase will one day include this. Otherwise, it's up to sleuthing through the books, and guessing. ... That's all well and good but I just want to know why a particular food is listed as avoid. I think from the answers I'm getting that there probably isn't a place at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 > My long standing question is, " Is there a website where the reasons for > specific foods being classified as avoids are explained? " So many foods just have > no reason, especially foods that are avoid for only non-secretors Max - I second this request!!! I just got the blood type encyclopaedia today and it helps with this but not nearly enough. For example it says something " Contains a component that can modify known disease susceptibility " . What component? what disease? how can it modify? One can not make an intelligent choice about a food without the details. Others say " contains lectin or other agglutinin " Again which one so one can decide whether individual response is severe or mild. But as you say all too often it just says " non secretor avoid " with no reasons at all. Since this information has to be known in order to come up with the advice in the first place, why is the information hidden and where is it hidden? I am disappointed that it is not in the encyclopaedia as that seems the logical place for it. It would have been very simple to add a few pages listing the various reasons something is not okay - and just code the lists with the reason number/s for those who want to know. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I think the Typebase4 will eventually have this. The bottom line for me is on the whole there are plenty of good foods to eat, good variety and outstanding immunity and health through this program :-) I was taught once that if you're looking at a sheet of paper with a dot on it and you focus on the dot that it appears larger than it really is. Being the Obsessive Compulsive I am I try to remember this when I chase something too far down a trail! :-) _____ From: [mailto:bloggertypeo@...] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Re: Avoid Foods I hope the new typebase will one day include this. Otherwise, it's up to sleuthing through the books, and guessing. .... That's all well and good but I just want to know why a particular food is listed as avoid. I think from the answers I'm getting that there probably isn't a place at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 cherylhcmba wrote: I think he looks at the balance of pluses and > minuses for each food. That doesn't make sense to me. Putting the scientific finding in place makes sense. D'Adamo can not make decisions about what is good for my system - or anyone else's system - but he can explain what each food does or does not do with the blood type and let the reader decide if they like it or not, or can live with it or not. For example, if the only reason not to eat something was a known association with breast cancer - that would not bother me - I had the disease and fixed it with homeopathy and could do so again - so that is not a risk for me - it's a choice *I* want to make, is the point. I don't want it made for me. This is just an example - but it illustrates the point that we *need* to know the scientific reason he dislikes food - and if he wants to rate it good bad or indifferent for the average person, fine, put a 1, 2, or 3 next to it or something - but he needs to let the consumer decide whether it is an avoid in *our* specific circumstances by telling us the scientific finding associated with the food. Hiding the scientific finding is wrong and prevents that proper usefulness of his research. WHY does he do that when it is not hard to provide what's needed? People who come to the diet are interested enough, and have *individual* health issues enough to want to know how to apply this to themselves *within* the O range - not as a general thing for just any old O which is not them :-))) > Knowing him he probably has a computer > program set up with different weights assigned to different factors. With respect that does not help the people who want to know specifics. It only does a smeary average which by definition loses all value for individual application. It has value for the " average " O person if there is such a thing. Putting out the real reasons has value to ALL O people. Is that not better? We're a savvy lot by the time we get to believing in blood groups affecting diet. - We don't buy just any vitamin mix - we know what we want for each ingredient - our food needs to be that way too. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Tom wrote: > I think the Typebase4 will eventually have this. That would be great. > The bottom line for me is > on the whole there are plenty of good foods to eat, good variety and > outstanding immunity and health through this program :-) Maybe if you are a relatively healthy person. But if like me you struggle to find some way to get enough good foods you can afford that also suit multiple health issues and you *need* to compromise - that data is essential to making the best compromise. It is also essential to enjoyment of life. If there is an avoid I truly like, I want to know why it is bad so that I can make an intelligent choice to use or not use it, which requires knowing the specific consequences. Too many people are not healthy enough or financially liquid enough or whatever the case may be, to just be able to choose from what's there. Many things I'd try are not available either locally or in my budget to fly them in from overseas - guavas for example. I'm allergic to many okay fruits - so I need to find the least bad avoids or know whether zero fruits are better etc. Zero is not happy. Happiness counts :-) The details *are* necessary - for many valid reasons - for many people. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 > The details *are* necessary - for many valid reasons - for many people. > > Namaste, > Irene Have you tried emailing him and asking him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Well we can't hardly pick up Dr. D and shake him and make him cough up the details, but it's a good point to make. I don't think he withholds for any secretive reason personally. There may be some valid reasons not to try to communicate the specifics about each judgement. I can't say I know what the reasons might be, but observing Dr. D for the last several years, he certainly has a strong desire to share what he finds so I'm sure as soon as he can find the method of communication he believes will properly frame the explanations he will do it as fast as he can. He brought us this knowledge. We have much more than we would had he not taken the risks he has. I am sorry it feels frustrating to you not to be able to access that knowledge. It's such a strong indicator of how our world is shifting to being very knowledge management based. _____ From: Irene de Villiers [mailto:furryboots@...] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: Avoid Foods Tom wrote: > I think the Typebase4 will eventually have this. That would be great. > The bottom line for me is > on the whole there are plenty of good foods to eat, good variety and > outstanding immunity and health through this program :-) Maybe if you are a relatively healthy person. But if like me you struggle to find some way to get enough good foods you can afford that also suit multiple health issues and you *need* to compromise - that data is essential to making the best compromise. It is also essential to enjoyment of life. If there is an avoid I truly like, I want to know why it is bad so that I can make an intelligent choice to use or not use it, which requires knowing the specific consequences. Too many people are not healthy enough or financially liquid enough or whatever the case may be, to just be able to choose from what's there. Many things I'd try are not available either locally or in my budget to fly them in from overseas - guavas for example. I'm allergic to many okay fruits - so I need to find the least bad avoids or know whether zero fruits are better etc. Zero is not happy. Happiness counts :-) The details *are* necessary - for many valid reasons - for many people. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Maddviking@... wrote: > [Contains a component that can modify > known disease susceptibility " .] > Well, the first one, I think, is technospeak for " it'll lower your immune > system " (germs in the digestive tract like mold etc). That doesn't cut it for me though - and this is a perfect example of the problem as I see it: The immune system is a complex system of cytokines from the thymus and bone marrow involving T-helper lymphocytes to balance the cytokine components from each side - it has nothing whatsoever to do with the gut! So if the food messes with mold in the gut - I want to know that as I also know how to overcome that with rice bran and acidophilus with PABA. But if it skews my immune system cytokines to either TH-1 or Th-2 lymphocytes that is a very different matter, as my health involves TH-2 excess. Also - if type O usually has low cortisol and I am high cortisol, I can only choose what to avoid that causes cortisol secretion if I know the specific. If D'ADamo is making the choice he is quite likely to damage my health by listing a cortisol raiser as beneficial for Os - because on average (that useless statistic!!!) the O's are low cortisol. It is the same issue for every person and every health issue - the specifics are *needed* - to use the research. Not just optional. So I DO need to know the scientific finding and not just D'Adamo's conclusion from it. And that will apply to most people whether they know it or not. With the specifics there would be no more pooh-poohing of BTD because the science would be out there for all to see. So what is D'Adamo afraid of in hiding it? It would be an advantage to list it surely? I sure hope he does it - soon :-)) Until then the diet has some value - but a *lot* less value than it could have. NAmaste, IRene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Belinda wrote: >>The details *are* necessary - for many valid reasons - for many > > people. > >>Namaste, >> Irene > > > Have you tried emailing him and asking him? No, only because I could not find an email on the website when I was able to go there. Do you have an email addy? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 > > Have you tried emailing him and asking him? > > > No, only because I could not find an email on the website when I was > able to go there. > Do you have an email addy? > > Namaste, > Irene No, I don't. But he does have an Ask the Dr link on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 It's probably in part a decision of the publisher to keep it simple, that's why I think typebase is where we'll find it. It does give link to information on the lectins, where it says 'this food contains a known lectin' It's not all based on lectins though, rice, for instance, has a powerful lectin referred to as a panhemagluttinin, similar to the lectin in wheat, but in practice he's never seen people react to it like wheat. So rice is ok, other than it's glycemic index in relation to diabetes. I may have my facts/spelling/vocab wrong, I'm writing off the top of my head from recent memory. Feel free to correct me, but do be gentle - RE: Re: Avoid Foods Well we can't hardly pick up Dr. D and shake him and make him cough up the details, but it's a good point to make. I don't think he withholds for any secretive reason personally. There may be some valid reasons not to try to communicate the specifics about each judgement. I can't say I know what the reasons might be, but observing Dr. D for the last several years, he certainly has a strong desire to share what he finds so I'm sure as soon as he can find the method of communication he believes will properly frame the explanations he will do it as fast as he can. He brought us this knowledge. We have much more than we would had he not taken the risks he has. I am sorry it feels frustrating to you not to be able to access that knowledge. It's such a strong indicator of how our world is shifting to being very knowledge management based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Tom wrote: > Well we can't hardly pick up Dr. D and shake him and make him cough up the > details, You have a good point that Dr D'ADamo certainly does not OWE anyone the scientific findings. But it is always easier to state the finding than to state an interpretation. It's like stating 2 plus 2 is 4 - and not having to explain how to use that information. A finding is just that - we did this and that happened - it results in a fact. The application of the fact is always harder - yet that's what D'Adamo had given - the application only, without the fact behind it. So the point is that the fact behind it is the easy part - interpreting is hard, for the average person, and that's done already. I'm not asking for the facts with interpretations in different cases - we can do that on google or PubMed if we need it. For example " x-food raises cortisol 10% in 4 hours " would be a typical fact. I need the fact. I do not need to know the consequences to me of this happening - that I can look up or will already know because it is related to my specific health so it is a known area for me. Someone else will not need that particular specific and can go by the " beneficial for O " on average idea. For me I'll know it is a serious avoid. The interpretation " beneficial for O " has already been made in the food lists. The fact behind it is a *known* - not something that needs to be interpreted - just a fact. Should be easy to offer the bald facts on which the interpretations already made, were based. > but it's a good point to make. I don't think he withholds for any > secretive reason personally. More likely a financial reason. He did a lot of work that cost money to find out those facts. Divulging them would open the door for other scintists to get on the bandwagon and also make money from the findings. Namaste, IRene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 You will not get an answer unless you " " ask " " and he posts it on the site. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Re: Avoid Foods Belinda wrote: >>The details *are* necessary - for many valid reasons - for many > > people. > >>Namaste, >> Irene > > > Have you tried emailing him and asking him? No, only because I could not find an email on the website when I was able to go there. Do you have an email addy? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Irene - to write a book that you vision is not going to happen for a number of reasons. Obviously you are not the norm at this time with your health issues. So if you have high cortisol for examples, then you modify your O diet. You make an appointment with him in order to get a program for you personally and guaranteed that your answers will be provided as well. The average person will be better off with these BTD books that actually produce unbelievable results then from any other theory. Believe it or not, I am with you on knowing all the " " whys " " but regardless - no one can deny the success of the diet. So start or continue with the basic ideas and make the adjustment that is needed and let your body heal itself. In your case it will take some time but it can happen. There is nothing wrong with questioning this way of eating, but the results come via practice. Sincerely ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Avoid Foods Maddviking@... wrote: > [Contains a component that can modify > known disease susceptibility " .] > Well, the first one, I think, is technospeak for " it'll lower your immune > system " (germs in the digestive tract like mold etc). That doesn't cut it for me though - and this is a perfect example of the problem as I see it: The immune system is a complex system of cytokines from the thymus and bone marrow involving T-helper lymphocytes to balance the cytokine components from each side - it has nothing whatsoever to do with the gut! So if the food messes with mold in the gut - I want to know that as I also know how to overcome that with rice bran and acidophilus with PABA. But if it skews my immune system cytokines to either TH-1 or Th-2 lymphocytes that is a very different matter, as my health involves TH-2 excess. Also - if type O usually has low cortisol and I am high cortisol, I can only choose what to avoid that causes cortisol secretion if I know the specific. If D'ADamo is making the choice he is quite likely to damage my health by listing a cortisol raiser as beneficial for Os - because on average (that useless statistic!!!) the O's are low cortisol. It is the same issue for every person and every health issue - the specifics are *needed* - to use the research. Not just optional. So I DO need to know the scientific finding and not just D'Adamo's conclusion from it. And that will apply to most people whether they know it or not. With the specifics there would be no more pooh-poohing of BTD because the science would be out there for all to see. So what is D'Adamo afraid of in hiding it? It would be an advantage to list it surely? I sure hope he does it - soon :-)) Until then the diet has some value - but a *lot* less value than it could have. NAmaste, IRene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hi, All! This has been an interesting discussion. For me, the problem is that Dr. D has not stuck to the lectin/antigen/antibody connection in determining Avoid foods for each blood type. I'm not sure if he makes it clear about which foods are Avoids because of lectins, and which are Avoids because of some other factor. I would like to know which is which because I would like to avoid the lectin-based Avoids. Like Irene, I would like to know what makes the other foods Avoids and make my own choices. I may not have the same issues as the average O. There are a number of ways to type blood--ABO is only one of them. But the ABO types are determined by lectins. It makes sense to me that the antigens in some foods will be compatible with my red cell antigens (which are zip in Os so we form antibodies to the A and B antigens in foods), others will be incompatible, and the rest are neutral with mine. That's where the idea that eating an Avoid food is like getting a very small transfusion of the wrong blood type came from. Read the first couple of pages of Chapter 6, " The Immune Battleground, " in LR4YT for his explanation of blood type antigens and antibodies. I note his chart of Agglutination and the Process of Aging and take from it that the older we get, the more we should be aware of avoiding those Avoids to keep our health and longevity level as high as possible. Jane Tucson, AZ USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:20:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tomwilson64@... writes: it's a good point to make. I don't think he withholds for any secretive reason personally. There may be some valid reasons not to try to communicate the specifics about each judgement. I don't think there was any deliberate deception. As with most things, I think it was either lab sloppiness or a rush to publish and the lists were never changed once published unless the particular food designation was retested. I was just hoping someone had filled in the gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:24:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, furryboots@... writes: > Have you tried emailing him and asking him? LOL--no, I emailed you guys first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/24/2004 3:32:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jwarner2@... writes: I would like to know which is which because I would like to avoid the lectin-based Avoids. That is exactly why I want to know. Often we find ourselves in places where we can't follow the diet (Christmas, family reunions, visiting, travelling,etc) but want to stay as close as possible. I would definitely want to avoid a lectin-based avoid but still want to enjoy my holiday without having to paw through my food (very attractive) because there is apple in the salad or honey in an almond candy unless these avoids are lectin based. So far, I just test them by eating and waiting. Lectin-based avoids usually kick the snot out of me. Just like the cantaloupe/muskmelon issue, there are dozens of kinds of apples and several types of honey. I think the answer is that it would be too expensive for DR D to go back and revise the lists unless someone volunteered to do it. Somehow, I don't think they'd appreciate an amateur volunteer pawing through their lab reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/24/2004 6:54:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mzellen03@... writes: it's not the easiest to navigate, but it has good information http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm Yeah, that's the first thing I went to but it just reiterates what the books says in many instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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