Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Fortunately or unfortunately I read the book The Thyroid Solution. It says we get so much iodine through salt and other sources that taking iodine as supplement will easily give us thyroditis. So past two days I have been worrying. Now i am thinking to cut down my Lugol's and Potassium Iodide to two times per week rather than daily. Ditto with selenium too. This book has scared me. I need comments of others on this. Thanks.------ Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Wed, 7/9/08, vsloss1 <vsloss1@...> wrote: From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>Subject: Re: results of loading testiodine Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:23 AM - I agree, it was a great explanation! I have done some moreresearch tonight, because my daily average temp is around 98.0. Itappears that 's Temperature Syndrome is also a possiblity. Idon't want to clog up the iodine list, but if someone has this wouldyou want to email me privately? There are just so many things to look at when you are trying to beyour own doctor! I am so glad for all of you on this list who are sohelpful and so knowledgeable! Blessings-Vicki-- In iodinegroups (DOT) com, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@ ...>wrote:>> Glad to help.> > Steph> > > Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >> > was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 They are wrong. I have been looking at new articles stating that there is NOT enough iodine in our food and salt. Why don't you get a loading test done to know for sure where you are - or even a spot urine test. Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >> > was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Ratan, I would be curious about credentials, clinical experience, and training that the author of this book has. I’m sure that you know from your training that the allopathic medical profession is problematic in that they are good at diagnosis but relatively inert as regards actually fixing anything. If the author is an M.D., I would question anything and everything that the author has to say. How does this information correspond to what Abrams, and Brownstein have to say? Long before I entered the practice of naturopathy, it was a basic axiom in supplementation, that water-soluble supplemental substances are generally not problematic, because the excess is eliminated. From what I can remember of what I was taught in naturopathic training was that inordinate amounts of a specific substance MAY over a period of time be problematic. Part of the reason that I am monitoring the iodine site, is that what they are doing with potassium iodide etc. is different from the dosage information and protocols that I’m familiar with. That does not make them wrong, only different. From what I understand of most of the folks here, they are having specific problems with cancer or precancerous conditions; have been exposed to toxins that affect their thyroid, etc. and therefore would have more need for thyroid substance for remediation, or that they may have problems in assimilation of the supplement. As previously stated, I am NOT an expert in this particular aspect, but I have yet in two years of study to find a situation in which I have specific evidence that the thyroid was damaged by over supplementation of product. That does not mean that you should ingest a full bottle of Iodoral a day, but reasonable amounts (I believe is taking 100 mg a day) should not be a problem. I personally take between 37.5mg and 50 mg per day with a natural thyroid substance support, and also the cofactors commonly associated with thyroid support. When I take too much, I simply can’t sleep. Also, and this is a basic principle of naturopathy, overdosing of any naturopathic product can result in loose stool, or diarrhea. If my memory serves me correctly, you are “offshore” (is it India?). They may not have the same jargon over there as we do, but the allopathic medical community has come up with an RDA (recommended daily amounts) which we in the naturopathic community call Really Dumb Amounts. What I always tell clients, is that what I tell them MUST make sense, and common sense to them, and that it is almost always true that any competent practitioner should be telling you the same things that I am. That should be true of any of the reading that I or any of my clients do. I don’t believe that your book passes that test. Dennis Dvorak From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of psych doc Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:34 AM iodine Subject: Re: Scared of Iodine Fortunately or unfortunately I read the book The Thyroid Solution. It says we get so much iodine through salt and other sources that taking iodine as supplement will easily give us thyroditis. So past two days I have been worrying. Now i am thinking to cut down my Lugol's and Potassium Iodide to two times per week rather than daily. Ditto with selenium too. This book has scared me. I need comments of others on this. Thanks. ------ Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@... - Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education. - Author of " Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses " ; - M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.; - Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com > > Glad to help. > > Steph > > > Re: results of loading test > > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration! > > Thank you, > > Marlena > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it > >> > was > >> >> >> very > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really > >> > thought > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was > >> > the > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I > >> > know > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have > >> >> >> risen a > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like > >> > something has > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead > >> > inside > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose > >> > that > >> >> >> can > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed > >> > hypothyroid > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to > >> > get > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show > >> > me some > >> >> >> > light, anyone. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > Vicki > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 You might want to investigate the actual facts on which this assertion is based. Are there any? Dorothy > Fortunately or unfortunately I read the book The Thyroid Solution. It says we get so much iodine through salt and other sources that taking iodine as supplement will easily give us thyroditis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 And I don't know about you, but I can tell you that my husband and I only occasionally use the salt shaker -- but my children NEVER touch it. I don't think folks are getting iodine from their salt anymore. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it > > >> > was > > >> >> >> very > > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really > > >> > thought > > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and > that was > > >> > the > > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to > think. I > > >> > know > > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps > have > > >> >> >> risen a > > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like > > >> > something has > > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead > > >> > inside > > >> >> >> and > > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose > > >> > that > > >> >> >> can > > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed > > >> > hypothyroid > > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was > going to > > >> > get > > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show > > >> > me some > > >> >> >> > light, anyone. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Thanks, > > >> >> >> > Vicki > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 A lot has to do with the " Low Salt " diets too. Doctors promote that for hypertension when you NEED sodium to help hypertension - just not the refined junk. The unrefined has over 80 minerals in it. RE: Scared of Iodine > > And I don't know about you, but I can tell you that my husband and I > only occasionally use the salt shaker -- but my children NEVER touch it. > > I don't think folks are getting iodine from their salt anymore. > > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my > iodine loading test, and it >> > >> > was >> > >> >> >> very >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be > happy. I am not. I really >> > >> > thought >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due > to low iodine and >> that was >> > >> > the >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I > don't know what to >> think. I >> > >> > know >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing > with iodoral, my temps >> have >> > >> >> >> risen a >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold > anymore. I do feel like >> > >> > something has >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter > I felt like I was dead >> > >> > inside >> > >> >> >> and >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy > aroused to care. But I suppose >> > >> > that >> > >> >> >> can >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had > not been diagnosed >> > >> > hypothyroid >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was > tested. >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My > theory on how I was >> going to >> > >> > get >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and > I'm disappointed. Show >> > >> > me some >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone. >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > Thanks, >> > >> >> >> > Vicki >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I know. It is possible that Sodium is not the culprit to push our blood pressure by itself. If balanced with Potassium the Sodium may not be harmful at all. The ratio supposedly has to be 2 to 1 with Sodium the twice one. In the sea over 60 minerals are found including Sodium. The act of humans has isolated the white Sodium Chloride. The real culprit therefore is the human tinkering. ------------ Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Thu, 7/10/08, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Scared of Iodineiodine Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 4:43 PM A lot has to do with the "Low Salt" diets too. Doctors promote that for hypertension when you NEED sodium to help hypertension - just not the refined junk. The unrefined has over 80 minerals in it. RE: Scared of Iodine>> And I don't know about you, but I can tell you that my husband and I> only occasionally use the salt shaker -- but my children NEVER touch it.>> I don't think folks are getting iodine from their salt anymore.>> >> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my> iodine loading test, and it>> > >> > was>> > >> >> >> very>> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be> happy. I am not. I really>> > >> > thought>> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due> to low iodine and>> that was>> > >> > the>> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I> don't know what to>> think. I>> > >> > know>> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing> with iodoral, my temps>> have>> > >> >> >> risen a>> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold> anymore. I do feel like>> > >> > something has>> > >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter> I felt like I was dead>> > >> > inside>> > >> >> >> and>> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy> aroused to care. But I suppose>> > >> > that>> > >> >> >> can>> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had> not been diagnosed>> > >> > hypothyroid>> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was> tested.>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My> theory on how I was>> going to>> > >> > get>> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and> I'm disappointed. Show>> > >> > me some>> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Thanks,>> > >> >> >> > Vicki>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I think for healthy functioning of kidneys we need salt. If it is iodized salt then we will have too much of iodine if we top up with iodine as supplement. What I do is that I stop white salt for five days if my blood pressure goes up. The b.p. then comes down. Then and daily I take Potassium chloride and Sodium chloride together. On this balancing, my b.p. stays at 120/80 without any medicine. For iodine and selenium I have gone on alternate day regimen for iodine and once or twice a week for selenium.-------- Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Thu, 7/10/08, needhammom <marianne@...> wrote: From: needhammom <marianne@...>Subject: RE: Scared of Iodineiodine Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 4:40 PM And I don't know about you, but I can tell you that my husband and Ionly occasionally use the salt shaker -- but my children NEVER touch it. I don't think folks are getting iodine from their salt anymore.> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of myiodine loading test, and it> > >> > was> > >> >> >> very> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should behappy. I am not. I really> > >> > thought> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid dueto low iodine and> that was> > >> > the> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now Idon't know what to> think. I> > >> > know> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementingwith iodoral, my temps> have> > >> >> >> risen a> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not coldanymore. I do feel like> > >> > something has> > >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winterI felt like I was dead> > >> > inside> > >> >> >> and> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energyaroused to care. But I suppose> > >> > that> > >> >> >> can> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I hadnot been diagnosed> > >> > hypothyroid> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that wastested.> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? Mytheory on how I was> going to> > >> > get> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, andI'm disappointed. Show> > >> > me some> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,> > >> >> >> > Vicki> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 None. Only loose argument that since iodized salt started there is increase in thyroditis in USA. But no data on this front too.--------- Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Thu, 7/10/08, dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...> wrote: From: dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...>Subject: Re: Scared of Iodineiodine Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 1:52 AM You might want to investigate the actual facts on which this assertionis based. Are there any?Dorothy> Fortunately or unfortunately I read the book The Thyroid Solution.It says we get so much iodine through salt and other sources thattaking iodine as supplement will easily give us thyroditis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Yes, the author is an M.D. I think you are right. I am curious about Abram and Brownstein. What are their qualifications and have they written a book. Pardon my ignorance.--------------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Wed, 7/9/08, DrDvorak <drdvorak@...> wrote: From: DrDvorak <drdvorak@...>Subject: RE: Scared of Iodineiodine Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:13 PM Ratan, I would be curious about credentials, clinical experience, and training that the author of this book has. I’m sure that you know from your training that the allopathic medical profession is problematic in that they are good at diagnosis but relatively inert as regards actually fixing anything. If the author is an M.D., I would question anything and everything that the author has to say. How does this information correspond to what Abrams, and Brownstein have to say? Long before I entered the practice of naturopathy, it was a basic axiom in supplementation, that water-soluble supplemental substances are generally not problematic, because the excess is eliminated. From what I can remember of what I was taught in naturopathic training was that inordinate amounts of a specific substance MAY over a period of time be problematic. Part of the reason that I am monitoring the iodine site, is that what they are doing with potassium iodide etc. is different from the dosage information and protocols that I’m familiar with. That does not make them wrong, only different. From what I understand of most of the folks here, they are having specific problems with cancer or precancerous conditions; have been exposed to toxins that affect their thyroid, etc. and therefore would have more need for thyroid substance for remediation, or that they may have problems in assimilation of the supplement. As previously stated, I am NOT an expert in this particular aspect, but I have yet in two years of study to find a situation in which I have specific evidence that the thyroid was damaged by over supplementation of product. That does not mean that you should ingest a full bottle of Iodoral a day, but reasonable amounts (I believe is taking 100 mg a day) should not be a problem. I personally take between 37.5mg and 50 mg per day with a natural thyroid substance support, and also the cofactors commonly associated with thyroid support. When I take too much, I simply can’t sleep. Also, and this is a basic principle of naturopathy, overdosing of any naturopathic product can result in loose stool, or diarrhea. If my memory serves me correctly, you are “offshore” (is it India?). They may not have the same jargon over there as we do, but the allopathic medical community has come up with an RDA (recommended daily amounts) which we in the naturopathic community call Really Dumb Amounts. What I always tell clients, is that what I tell them MUST make sense, and common sense to them, and that it is almost always true that any competent practitioner should be telling you the same things that I am. That should be true of any of the reading that I or any of my clients do. I don’t believe that your book passes that test. Dennis Dvorak From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodine] On Behalf Of psych docSent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:34 AMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Scared of Iodine Fortunately or unfortunately I read the book The Thyroid Solution. It says we get so much iodine through salt and other sources that taking iodine as supplement will easily give us thyroditis. So past two days I have been worrying. Now i am thinking to cut down my Lugol's and Potassium Iodide to two times per week rather than daily. Ditto with selenium too. This book has scared me. I need comments of others on this. Thanks.------ Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsychhotmail (DOT) com- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart. com/trade/ meditationandhea lth, www.ejcbs.com >> Glad to help.> > Steph> > > Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >> > was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dr. Abraham is an endocrinologist that specialized in women's health. He was a professor I believe at one of the CA universities for a while as well. Dr. Brownstein is a board certified family practice MD. He has since gone on to learn about holistic medicine and that is the form he practices. You can learn more about him on www.drbrownstein.com or www.centerforholisticmedicine.com as well as buy his books on the first website. Dr. Abraham (not Abrams) has his writings on his website on www.optimox.com . You can also view Dr. Brownstein's video seminars on the Vit C Foundation Website. Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >> > was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 At’ta girl! From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:19 AM iodine Subject: Re: Scared of Iodine Dr. Abraham is an endocrinologist that specialized in women's health. He was a professor I believe at one of the CA universities for a while as well. Dr. Brownstein is a board certified family practice MD. He has since gone on to learn about holistic medicine and that is the form he practices. You can learn more about him on www.drbrownstein.com or www.centerforholisticmedicine.com as well as buy his books on the first website. Dr. Abraham (not Abrams) has his writings on his website on www.optimox.com .. You can also view Dr. Brownstein's video seminars on the Vit C Foundation Website. ----- Original Message ----- From: psych doc iodine Cc: drdvorak@... Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Scared of Iodine Yes, the author is an M.D. I think you are right. I am curious about Abram and Brownstein. What are their qualifications and have they written a book. Pardon my ignorance. -------------- Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@... - Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education. - Author of " Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses " ; - M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.; - Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA); - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com > > Glad to help. > > Steph > > > Re: results of loading test > > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration! > > Thank you, > > Marlena > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it > >> > was > >> >> >> very > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really > >> > thought > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was > >> > the > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I > >> > know > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have > >> >> >> risen a > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like > >> > something has > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead > >> > inside > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose > >> > that > >> >> >> can > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed > >> > hypothyroid > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to > >> > get > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show > >> > me some > >> >> >> > light, anyone. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > Vicki > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I forgot to mention that Dr. Abraham's entire work can be purchased from Optimox for $25 - it is called "The Original Internist - Special Edition". It is a hard copy compilation of all the research articles that are listed on the www.optimox.com website. I believe there may even be more. I have a copy but have yet to read it. I have read several of the individual articles. I need to clone myself to get all the reading I want to do done. I have shelves of books! Even that Thyroid book mentioned by Rattan. Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >> > was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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