Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 HI Marlena, was the mercury test Dr Flechas gave you a urine test? Did you take any type of chelator as a part of this test? I would be shocked as well, seeing as you never had amalgams. Just goes to show we get mercury from many sources. G/MI Dr Flechas offers a toxic metals test along with the iodine and bromide loading tests ... The toxic metal results take a lot longer - I finally got them back today, and right now I am in shock. The reference range for Mercury is 2.19 and my Mercury was 47.47!In the past I have done hair tests for toxic metals and my mercury was never elevated. I have never had amalgams either, but in the past before I knew better I ate plenty of fish. Also my mother used to have amalgams and did when she was pregnant with me and nursing me and I've heard that we can get a lot of mercury passed on that way ... And of course much Mercury is simply unavoidable from the environment ...I read that iodine mobilized mercury out, but this is really amazing to me. I just did not expect it. I suppose it's good because it shows the mercury coming out - better out than in! But I'm concerned because I haven't been doing other mercury clean up along with the io dine, which could be 1 explanation for why I still feel pretty bad on most days. At least I've been taking vitamin C, the other supporting nutrients, probiotics, and general detox stuff like UltraClear but now I will start chlorella asap ... and I'm thinking about MSM too. Any other ideas? I'm not sure if I should do another strong chelating agent ...Fortunately I was able to get my consultation with Dr Flechas for this Thursday. I'll report about what he says. There were some other concerns from my results - like my urine creatinine is too low and I also have high Thalliam and Tungsten, but not nearly as high as the Mercury. Does anyone know what I should do to raise my creatinine?Thanks,Marlena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Very interesting. Dr. A, B & F have seen these halides increase in output with iodine. Are you taking Selenium? How about Alpha Lipoic Acid. Both are great for binding to mercury. I took a Metagenics product that really helped me when chelating and we would do the DMPS Challenge tests (Yes I know some of you don't like this but I chose to do it). It was called Chloroclear. I would recommend it. Steph toxic metals test results Dr Flechas offers a toxic metals test along with the iodine and bromide loading tests ... The toxic metal results take a lot longer - I finally got them back today, and right now I am in shock. The reference range for Mercury is 2.19 and my Mercury was 47.47! In the past I have done hair tests for toxic metals and my mercury was never elevated. I have never had amalgams either, but in the past before I knew better I ate plenty of fish. Also my mother used to have amalgams and did when she was pregnant with me and nursing me and I've heard that we can get a lot of mercury passed on that way ... And of course much Mercury is simply unavoidable from the environment ... I read that iodine mobilized mercury out, but this is really amazing to me. I just did not expect it. I suppose it's good because it shows the mercury coming out - better out than in! But I'm concerned because I haven't been doing other mercury clean up along with the iodine, which could be 1 explanation for why I still feel pretty bad on most days. At least I've been taking vitamin C, the other supporting nutrients, probiotics, and general detox stuff like UltraClear but now I will start chlorella asap ... and I'm thinking about MSM too. Any other ideas? I'm not sure if I should do another strong chelating agent ... Fortunately I was able to get my consultation with Dr Flechas for this Thursday. I'll report about what he says. There were some other concerns from my results - like my urine creatinine is too low and I also have high Thalliam and Tungsten, but not nearly as high as the Mercury. Does anyone know what I should do to raise my creatinine? Thanks, Marlena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks for your reply, Steph. I am taking 235mcg of selenium. Do you think I should double that? Also there are 50mg of R-Lipoic Acid in my Thorne detox multi and 25mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid in the Living Fuel supplement food I am currently taking. Do you think that is enough or should I add extra? I'll look into the Chloroclear too.Thanks,Marlena>> Very interesting. Dr. A, B & F have seen these halides increase in output with iodine. Are you taking Selenium? How about Alpha Lipoic Acid. Both are great for binding to mercury. I took a Metagenics product that really helped me when chelating and we would do the DMPS Challenge tests (Yes I know some of you don't like this but I chose to do it). It was called Chloroclear. I would recommend it.> > Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 > > The reference range > for Mercury is 2.19 and my Mercury was 47.47! Thanks for sharing. What is the unit of measure? > In the past I have done hair tests for toxic metals and my mercury was > never elevated. I believe hair tests generally reflect blood levels of mercury, not how much mercury is stored in the body. > I have never had amalgams either, Vaccines, including flu shots, often have mercury in them as well. > chlorella asap ... and I'm thinking about MSM too. Any other ideas? I'm > not sure if I should do another strong chelating agent ... As suggests, alpha lipoic acid is considered a good chelator for mercury. Unfortunately, my personal authority on mercury chelation, Dr. Andy Cutler, recommends taking it at 3 hour intervals to maintain a constant blood level. Not everyone does it that way though. I've been taking it off and on for the past two weeks for a few days at a time. Dr. Cutler has a good reputation among some people and he doesn't feel that chlorella or cilantro or sulfuric things like MSM work well as mercury chelators. He's concerned that they stir up the mercury but don't hold onto it tightly enough. That may not be an issue in your case since your Hg burden is presumably low. And personal experimentation is probably a good way to judge these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 > > I find that amazing. Iodine as the chelating agent. I'm not so sure that iodine can CHELATE mercury. They both have a +2 charge when in reduced form: Hg2+ and I2+. I think they COMPETE with each other in the body, for instance in making thyroid hormones, just as bromide and fluoride compete with iodide. I've personally decided to rest from 50mg of iodine for a few days at a time, and just take 12.5 mg during those days. I think maybe that allows my kidneys to rest a bit. I'm getting the feeling that that iodine is powerful stuff! No wonder it was the medicine of choice in ages past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I reply below in context: > Thanks for sharing. What is the unit of measure?all I could find is: ug/g. What does that mean?> I believe hair tests generally reflect blood levels of mercury, not> how much mercury is stored in the body.That's interesting. I did not know that. Thank you. > Vaccines, including flu shots, often have mercury in them as well.I never had any of those either!! I think I may have gotten all of my mercury from food/environment/or inherited. Scary!  > As suggests, alpha lipoic acid is considered a good chelator> for mercury. Unfortunately, my personal authority on mercury> chelation, Dr. Andy Cutler, recommends taking it at 3 hour intervals> to maintain a constant blood level. Not everyone does it that way> though. I've been taking it off and on for the past two weeks for a> few days at a time.> > Dr. Cutler has a good reputation among some people and he doesn't feel> that chlorella or cilantro or sulfuric things like MSM work well as> mercury chelators. He's concerned that they stir up the mercury but> don't hold onto it tightly enough. That may not be an issue in your> case since your Hg burden is presumably low.Hmm, interesting. But why do you say my burden is presumably low? I thought these results show it is high??Thanks for your thoughts!Marlena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this forum but I have been taking a product called NCD...it is an acronym for Natural Cellular Defense and is made of zeolites from volcanic rock....it is a natural chelator that is non offensive to the rest of your body...it acts like a small cage and whisks out the mercury and other stuff that doesn't belong there....you can get alot of information from on her website called significant healing.com...........she will also answer all questions and is quite informative.....I hope this helps........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Anybody know if this is any different from bentonite? which is not expensive. Dorothy > I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this forum but I have been taking a product called NCD...it is an acronym for Natural Cellular Defense and is made of zeolites from volcanic rock.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I know that bentonite clay is a detoxifier. I took it in pill form and it initially caused bowel issues, but then was OK. You are right in that it is cheaper than the NCD which I use now. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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