Re: any veggie type O's

[Guest guest]

Hi - here is the bottom line. You can " " " get away with being a

vegetarian " " " for a time - it may be a long time, it maybe shorter. No

one can tell you how long. Being an O, you can ##abuse## your body and

still feel relatively healthy. But, eventually your immune system gets

depleted so to speak.

In any case, (since we don't know anything about you) consume lots of

protein of some sort, green leafy veggies and HB fruits.

Here is your secretor answer

A person can be either a secretor or a non-secretor. This is completely

independent of whether your blood type is A, B, AB or O. In a simplified

sense, a secretor is defined as a person who secretes their blood type

antigens into body fluids and secretions like the saliva in your mouth,

the mucus in your digestive tract and respiratory cavities, etc. A

non-secretor on the other hand puts little to none of their blood type

into these same fluids. Many metabolic traits, such as carbohydrate

intolerance, and immune susceptibilities are linked genetically to

secretor subtype.

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any veggie type O's

* Sorry everyone,

I'm very ignorant in all this still - am

still trying to find out what is 'secreter' or 'non secreter' - but, I

don't like meat, have been veggie most of my life and hate the thought

of having to go back to eating meat - is it possible to be a veggie on

the type o diet ?

Are there any veggie 'o's on here ?

thanks

)

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

thankyou for you direct and frank answer - if it will help

me I will do it, can't really see myself eating hearts or livers but can try

other things.

Your site looks very interesting, don't have much time now but will take a good

look soon.

You mention you don't know anything about me - what kind of things would you

need to know to give you a good picture ?

I am white, 5'9 " , overweight, have insulin resistance in the family but don't

think I have it yet, don't tend to get ill hardly ever but do suffer a bit with

congestion and allergies/sensitivities with dust/pollen/smoke. I am always near

the borderline of being run-down and get the warning signs of ear-ache and lumps

in the throat. I am going to see the doc in a couple of weeks because this last

month I have acid coming up into my throat almost all the time [ something not

uncommon for 'O's I have found out.].

hth

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[Guest guest]

Now we are getting somewhere. How about your diet?

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Re: any veggie type O's

Hi ,

thankyou for you direct and frank answer - if it

will help me I will do it, can't really see myself eating hearts or

livers but can try other things.

Your site looks very interesting, don't have much time now but will take

a good look soon.

You mention you don't know anything about me - what kind of things would

you need to know to give you a good picture ?

I am white, 5'9 " , overweight, have insulin resistance in the family but

don't think I have it yet, don't tend to get ill hardly ever but do

suffer a bit with congestion and allergies/sensitivities with

dust/pollen/smoke. I am always near the borderline of being run-down and

get the warning signs of ear-ache and lumps in the throat. I am going to

see the doc in a couple of weeks because this last month I have acid

coming up into my throat almost all the time [ something not uncommon

for 'O's I have found out.].

hth

)

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/6/2004 5:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

firesprite68@... writes:

but, I don't like meat, have been veggie most of my life and hate the thought

of having to go back to eating meat

For type O, meat and protein is the bedrock of the diet for optimum health

and weight loss.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/7/2004 5:26:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

firesprite68@... writes:

overweight, have insulin resistance in the family but don't think I have it

yet, don't tend to get ill hardly ever but do suffer a bit with congestion and

allergies/sensitivities with dust/pollen/smoke. I am always near the

borderline of being run-down and get the warning signs of ear-ache and lumps in

the

throat. I am going to see the doc in a couple of weeks because this last month I

have acid coming up into my throat almost all the time [ something not

uncommon for 'O's I have found out.].

Sounds familiar. Virtually every problem you mention about your health is

correctable with this diet. No reflux, no allergies, no severe sensitivities to

anything, ever. How would you like to be full of energy? ALL THE TIME!!!

Eat meat and fat and cut out the carbs and processed foods that are poisoning

you. Start walking. Unfortunately, your allergies and weight (insulin

resistance) will only increase if you continue the way you are. This is a great

group

of very knowledgeable people who can really help you regain your health.

[Guest guest]

My diet - vegetarian, mostly protein sources are quinoa, seeds, nuts, sometimes

tofu, tempeh, very occasionally eggs.

Carb sources are chick peas, beans, millet, brown rice, couscous, rice pasta

occasionally.

Usually have quinoa porridge for breakfast, either protein or carb + salad for

lunch, whichever I didn't have at lunch with veggies for dinner. Trying to stay

away from potatoes and carrots unless raw carrots. Steam my veg and make sure it

is 'al dente'. Have lots of beansprouts and alfalfa sprouts. Only hot drink is

dandelion coffee - black, other than that just filtered water.

I'm sure I eat more than that but my mind is blank at the moment.

Have a weakness for chocolate but always try and make sure it has nuts in so it

isn't just all chocolate [ stupid I know but I just feel it's at least a little

good then}.

I'm actually quite self-restricting at the moment - almost vegan.

I know much of what I've put down will now be a no-no.

thanks

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[Guest guest]

you don't HAVE to, you can do BTD without meat, I did it and now eat it

rearly.

yvonne

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> but, I don't like meat, have been veggie most of my life and hate the

thought

> of having to go back to eating meat

>

> For type O, meat and protein is the bedrock of the diet for optimum health

> and weight loss.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What do you hate more?

Poor health and feelilng bad and going to the doctor and aging quickly and not

feeling WELL.

Or do you hate eating meat more.

Some combination of information and circumstances encouraged you into being a

vegetarian. Now there is a new set of circumstances and information and you

need to decide what you will do with it.

It's like re-training, which many humans resist, even when it is to there own

detriment.

Kathy

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> but, I don't like meat, have been veggie most of my life and hate the

thought

> of having to go back to eating meat

>

> For type O, meat and protein is the bedrock of the diet for optimum health

> and weight loss.

>

>

[Guest guest]

kathy matthews wrote:

> Some combination of information and circumstances encouraged you into being a

vegetarian. Now there is a new set of circumstances and information and you

need to decide what you will do with it.

>

> It's like re-training, which many humans resist, even when it is to there own

detriment.

I like that analysis!!!

Namaste,

Irene

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[Guest guest]

nobody has to be sick BECAUSE he doesn't eat meat !!

>

> What do you hate more?

>

> Poor health and feelilng bad and going to the doctor and aging quickly

and not feeling WELL.

>

> Or do you hate eating meat more.

>

[Guest guest]

Y. Zollikofer, Opernschule BGZ, OpernVorStudio OVS wrote:

> nobody has to be sick BECAUSE he doesn't eat meat !!

I'm not so sure:

I get *very* ill if I do not eat meat.

Some type O people may not need the high level of protein I need - but I

struggle to get my blood protein up to normal levels and meat is

definitely part of what I need.

To feed me on something else is like expeting a car to run on a glass

of wine instead of gas. May taste good but it goes nowhere.

And I need to go places :-))

.....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/8/2004 7:32:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kathymatthews@... writes:

What do you hate more?

Poor health and feelilng bad and going to the doctor and aging quickly and

not feeling WELL.

Or do you hate eating meat more.

So true! This is the crux of the problem. The older you get the sicker

you'll get and it's hard enough to stay well as you get older. If you don't

bolster your body's immune system with the proper foods, you'll go down that

road

where medications and their side effects replace it. Look around and see your

friends and family who destroy their immune systems by popping pills all of

the time for reflux, allergies, skin rashes, high cholesterol, pain, depression,

etc. while their health continues to deteriorate from poor diet. So sad and

it's mostly preventable with proper diet. Doctors treat you all the way to

the grave.

[Guest guest]

Someone answered me the other day saying to eat meat and fat - I'm sorry, I

don't know who it was as I have mislaid the post.

_ does this have to be a high fat diet ?

I know good fats are needed in the body but surely this would be omega 3 & 6 oils

and not saturated meat fat ?

Just wondering, I know I don't know that much yet but it never sounded like a

really high fat diet from what I have read ?

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[Guest guest]

right, including good olive oil.

Re: any veggie type O's

>

> Someone answered me the other day saying to eat meat and fat - I'm sorry,

I don't know who it was as I have mislaid the post.

> _ does this have to be a high fat diet ?

> I know good fats are needed in the body but surely this would be omega 3 & 6

oils and not saturated meat fat ?

> Just wondering, I know I don't know that much yet but it never sounded

like a really high fat diet from what I have read ?

>

> )

>

> http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

>

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[Guest guest]

>>right, including good olive oil.

Yes, I forgot that - do have that.

What about coconut oil ?

I have been using that for a couple of years now as it is s'poed to

be the only oil which doesn't 'turn' and develop free radicals when

heated to cooking temperature.

)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2004 3:52:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,

firesprite68@... writes:

What about coconut oil ?

Avoid unless you're a non-secretetor. You need to get the ER4YT

Encyclopedia--$17.00 at Amazon or maybe sells it. Well worth the

investment.

Good Christmas gift to people who like the idea but won't read it--LOL.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2004 10:53:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dnstjohn@... writes:

Dr. D did explain why. Read http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20041107.txt

Don

I couldn't find anything on apples at his site.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2004 12:02:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dnstjohn@... writes:

I assume the problem with apples for O non-secretors is the lectin:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/lectindepict.cgi?427

Thanks for the link. So much for their search engine that reported " no

results " . The reference still really doesn't say anything about the diet that I

could tell.

[Guest guest]

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Coconut oil is an avoid unless you are a non-secretor. Grape Seed oil or

Ghee are supposed to be more tolerent to heat from what I've read on this

list.

Re: any veggie type O's

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> >>right, including good olive oil.

>

> Yes, I forgot that - do have that.

> What about coconut oil ?

> I have been using that for a couple of years now as it is s'poed to

> be the only oil which doesn't 'turn' and develop free radicals when

> heated to cooking temperature.

>

> )

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[Guest guest]

In the database it only says " avoid " for coconut oil, but doesn't say why.

If it's an avoid because of the cholestrol, that's one thing, but if it's an

avoid for other reasons, I wish he had said so.

;-) Ellen

> ,

> Coconut oil is an avoid unless you are a non-secretor. Grape Seed oil or

> Ghee are supposed to be more tolerent to heat from what I've read on this

> list.

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. D did explain why. Read http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20041107.txt

Don

Re: Re: any veggie type O's

In the database it only says " avoid " for coconut oil, but doesn't say why.

If it's an avoid because of the cholestrol, that's one thing, but if it's an

avoid for other reasons, I wish he had said so.

;-) Ellen

> ,

> Coconut oil is an avoid unless you are a non-secretor. Grape Seed oil or

> Ghee are supposed to be more tolerent to heat from what I've read on this

> list.

>

[Guest guest]

I assume the problem with apples for O non-secretors is the lectin:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/lectindepict.cgi?427

Re: Re: any veggie type O's

In a message dated 11/10/2004 10:53:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dnstjohn@... writes:

Dr. D did explain why. Read http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20041107.txt

Don

I couldn't find anything on apples at his site.

[Guest guest]

I didn't mean more that coconut oil, as I don't know anything about it. It's

not available in this area that I'm aware of.

Re: any veggie type O's

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> > >>right, including good olive oil.

> >

> > Yes, I forgot that - do have that.

> > What about coconut oil ?

> > I have been using that for a couple of years now as it is s'poed to

> > be the only oil which doesn't 'turn' and develop free radicals when

> > heated to cooking temperature.

> >

> > )

[Guest guest]

Thanks Max but I don't sell it anymore.

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Re: Re: any veggie type O's

In a message dated 11/10/2004 3:52:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,

firesprite68@... writes:

What about coconut oil ?

Avoid unless you're a non-secretetor. You need to get the ER4YT

Encyclopedia--$17.00 at Amazon or maybe sells it. Well worth

the investment.

Good Christmas gift to people who like the idea but won't read it--LOL.

[Guest guest]

Don St. wrote:

> Dr. D did explain why. Read http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20041107.txt

Don, Thanks or posting the direct link to the discussion on coconut oil,

though I confess I missed why it is okay for O non secretors :-))

What I'd really like to understand is why coconut itself is not okay for

O non secretors. I have the encyclopedia but there is no detail like in

the coconut oil explanation. It just says:

" Enhances effect of other food toxins. "

(So then it's okay if you eat it in a O-compliant meal that has no toxins?)

and

" Provokes abnormal blood reaction "

(so how bad is that? What kind of abnormal blood reaction?)

It's not like I use coconut as a staple diet but coconut is a favourite

item in my diet. It is an " essential " flavour sprinkled on any decent

curry dish and I eat those daily.

I really hope to find a more detailed understanding to be able to judge

whether the avoid warnings are enough to worry about in my case.

Anyone know more?

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

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Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.