Far Infrared Thermal Treatment

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Blood tests have shown that my wife has a number of toxins in her body

and we have been recommended to try 'Far Infrared Thermal Treatment'

as part of the detoxification process.

I wondered whether anyone has any first hand experience of this? It

is something which I would normally dismiss as a gimmick but it has

been recommended by someone for whom we have great respect.

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I was seeing a doctor who was a member of the British Society for

Ecological Medicine and she arranged a couple of blood tests that

showed I had heavy metal problems. She said I could treat the mercury

and cadmium problems with Seagreens which would support the body's own

detoxification processes. However, she said the nickel could only be

eradicated through sweating.

So I bought a Far Infra Red sauna and used it several times a week for

a few months, a total of 56 times. It was quite an ordeal because I

don't sweat easily. I first had to have a hot bath to warm myself up,

then I would spend half an hour in the sauna. It was very difficult

for me to sit up for such a long time and I found the heat very

uncomfortable even though the FIR sauna is supposed to enable you to

sweat at a lower temperature. Then I had to have a shower, and by

that time I was so exhausted I would have to lie down for half an

hour. So each session took about two hours and was quite an ordeal.

I cannot say whether it has done any good as I haven't had the blood

tests repeated. I didn't notice any change in my symptoms or

condition. Here is Dr Myhill's information about FIR sauna:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=368

I tend to be deficient in magnesium and haven't managed to correct it

with supplements or even infusions. So maybe the sauna didn't do me

any good in that respect - you tend to lose minerals as well as toxins.

I think in light of reading that people with low thyroid don't

detoxify properly, I shall wait and see what effect correcting the

root of the problem has, rather than put myself through any more

expensive and exhausting treatments. A friend of mine is going to

have chelation therapy, so that is another alternative.

Miriam

> Blood tests have shown that my wife has a number of toxins in her

body and we have been recommended to try 'Far Infrared Thermal

Treatment' as part of the detoxification process.

> I wondered whether anyone has any first hand experience of this? It

> is something which I would normally dismiss as a gimmick but it has

> been recommended by someone for whom we have great respect.

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I had similar experiences with FIR. Again, I wanted to use it for

detox purposes and found one on eBay.

I found each treatment exhausting. After a while I realised that

having any degree of adrenal fatigue would probably cause a negative

reaction to the sauna, because adrenal fatigue causes an intolerance

to heat or cold and the heat of the FIR is stressful.

Detoxing in itself will also be much more difficult and exhausting

than it needs to be if you've got thyroid/adrenal problems.

My advice would be that if you have any adrenal problems, treat those

first before attempting a detox. Detox is difficult on your body, it

can be very stressful, so first get the adrenals and thyroid sorted

out or it could hit you very hard.

Also, you may come across natural products such as chlorella for

detoxing. They are touted as safe alternatives to detox medication.

What they dont tell you is that perhaps as many as 30% of people

cannot tolerate chlorella and it makes them violently ill. I am one

of those people, so I'd advise you to be careful of those too, because

it is a very nasty reaction. Dr Ray Sahelians website contains plenty

of testimonials from people who have suffered likewise.

In summary, I think there is enough evidence to support the benefits

of FIR, but only if your body is strong enough to do it.

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> Blood tests have shown that my wife has a number of toxins in her body

> and we have been recommended to try 'Far Infrared Thermal Treatment'

> as part of the detoxification process.

>

> I wondered whether anyone has any first hand experience of this? It

> is something which I would normally dismiss as a gimmick but it has

> been recommended by someone for whom we have great respect.

>

>

>

Hi

I also had lindane showing in my tests along with nickel and previously

I was mercury poisoned too (it cos I don't possess one of the enzymes

that helps the body to detoxify heavy metals, a life long situation).

Dr Myhill is my CFS doctor and she wrote to me and my GP suggesting I

buy an infrared sauna.

This was over 2 years ago and I have been regularly using it sweating

for about 30 minutes or so. Originally I used it twice a week but now

just once a week. Usually it makes me feel better unless there is

something else going on with my body when it will make me worse (like a

virus starting).

I think they are great and there is quite a lot of research to back up

the claims of detoxifying. Sherry 's book " Detoxify or Die " is a

good read with regard to the effect of a sauna. Its important to put

the minerals back after the sauna especially sodium in my case because

of my adrenal insufficiency.

I bought mine from one of the TV channels who advertise, it was very

inexpensive, I think around £199. It is portable and just sits in my

bedroom not taking up much room.

I keep meaning to do follow up tests, will do this after Xmas to see

what has happened but I want to leave it a little longer cos I am

trying to get rid of this rare type of yeast I have still go in my gut

and probably else where too. I do know of others who have cleared

their heavy metals problems using a FIR and taking extra minerals like

zinc and magnesium.

BW

Pam

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Hi ,

I bought one of these saunas (the addition of the word thermal threw me but I think it is the same thing) when I had my amalgam fillings removed as one method of detoxing. My dentist told me to make sure that I used it every day at first & I am sure this helped me immensely. Now I just use it whenever I feel like it, but at least once a week. It is a very relaxing start to a day - I have a daylight panel in it (can't think of the name of these, but the ones for SAD), and so I can read a book in there, and also have a not very bright bulb which I also wanted in case I used the sauna at night as I did not want to be overstimulated at that time of day. Actually I have never used it other than in a morning, so can't say what the effcet would be used later in the day.

Val

Blood tests have shown that my wife has a number of toxins in her bodyand we have been recommended to try 'Far Infrared Thermal Treatment'as part of the detoxification process.I wondered whether anyone has any first hand experience of this? Itis something which I would normally dismiss as a gimmick but it hasbeen recommended by someone for whom we have great respect.

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Hi Marie,

I think the point which I do not think has been made yet, that these are only suitable if you have no problems sweating. I used mine while really unwell with adrenal/thyroid/mercury issues, and because I can sweat ok, found it very beneficial for me. A point was made in an earlier email about showering immediately afterwards - I would change this to scrubbing off the sweat with a dry towel & then immediately removing this from the sauna (my dentist said to put into a sealed plastic bag, but I just throw them out of the sauna door & collect them afterwards to put in the washing machine), this (removing the sweat) cools the body a lot & so you can then stay in the sauna longer, but will need to do this again before getting out. The I take time to cool down before a normal temperature shower (no cold showers with infra red saunas - yipee!).

I also let my elderly poodle come in with me for about half an hour (not in the summer that much) and he will stretch out on the floor and enjoy the warmth which is great for his elderly bones/joints. He obviously does not sweat in the same manner as us (I have not checked his feet while in there - I would not be able to tell anyway as I would be wet myself at the time), but I checked out with animal webgroups I trusted which had a strong veterinary side & they said that these are good for them too.

Val

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A natural herb has been shown to remove mercury. A japanese Doctor

found that his patients had more mercury release into their urine

after eating the cilantro/coriander herb.

There is a pesto mix, which I use most days and I put fresh coriander

in my salads as well. I put the pesto on fish or meat and it is

delicious and no problem to enjoy.

1 clove garlic

1/2 cup almonds or cashews

1 cup packed cilantro/coriander leaves

2 tabs lemon juice

6 tabs olive oil.

I blended all this up in larger proportions and placed in a glass jar

in the fridge - its great.

Hair analysis test in Jan will compare any benefits.

Sorry I dont have the link to the doc and his work on hand, but a

google search may find it.

jennyfreeman

> Hi Marie,

>

> I think the point which I do not think has been made yet, that these

are only suitable if you have no problems sweating. I used mine while

really unwell with adrenal/thyroid/mercury issues, and because I can

sweat ok, found it very beneficial for me. A point was made in an

earlier email about showering immediately aft

>

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True it moves the mercury & may chelate it, I am not sure (my dentist advises to use it). What I am sure about it that it is slated on the frequent-dose-chelation group because of bad effects for some people who have mercury problems. I would always avoid this in any form. The half-life is not known I believe & so no-one knows how to use it safely. If anyone wants more information I would join this group to get proper information on it, not just what I remember, I know it is a baddy but cannot remember exactly why.

Val

A natural herb has been shown to remove mercury. A japanese Doctorfound that his patients had more mercury release into their urineafter eating the cilantro/coriander herb.

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WOW - THANKS YOU GUYS............I am so grateful that I posted about

the cilantro pesto, else I would have continued on in

ingnorance.........THANKS HEEPS

I am already a member of the website you mention, and must confess I

have found it the most confusing of any website I have ever been on

and gave up with it.

I had made a note of the DMSA etc - but really need to buld my

psychological strength before I take on any more 'procedures' - I am

totally burned out from it all after many years........and treating

high uric acid at the moment which has caused my fibro pain for so long.

I know my body just isnt strong enough to cope with too much more....

and definately not another detox.

THANK YOU ALL, once again for stopping me from adding to things and

making them even worse. (all amalgams removed btw)

jennyfreeman

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Hi ,

Can I just say that ALA is the best chelation to use as this also chelates the brain, whereas the others DMSA & DMPS "just" help reduce body burden, which makes it easier for some, but not all of us. Andy (someone mentioned him as the "god" of chelating" says ALA is fine to use on its own and we do not need to use the others if we do not want to, or if they do not help). I think DMPS is prescription only anyway - they say it is in the US. DMSA was horrible for me - made me feel not so good, and also gave me uncontrollable rages which came up unexpectedly from very tiny annoyances, and then went down just as suddenly leaving me feeling shocked & wondering what was happening to me. My husband has used DMSA with no problems, so just bear this in mind. ALA is also kind/good for the liver which is important to remember for those with hepC or any weakened liver state. You have to leave a few months after amalgam removal nefore starting ALA whereas the other 2 can be used earlier, too.

Val

I had made a note of the DMSA etc - but really need to buld mypsychological strength before I take on any more 'procedures' - I amtotally burned out from it all after many years........and treatinghigh uric acid at the moment which has caused my fibro pain for so long.I know my body just isnt strong enough to cope with too much more....and definately not another detox.THANK YOU ALL, once again for stopping me from adding to things andmaking them even worse. (all amalgams removed btw)jennyfreeman

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> Hi ,

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> Can I just say that ALA is the best chelation to use as this also

chelates the brain, whereas the others DMSA & DMPS " just " help reduce

body burden, which makes it easier for some, but not all of us. Andy

(someone mentioned him as the " god " of chelating " says ALA is fine to

use on its own and we do not need to use the others if we do not want

to, or if they do not help). I think DMPS is prescription only

anyway - they say it is in the US. DMSA was horrible for me - made

me feel not so good, and also gave me uncontrollable rages which came

up unexpectedly from very tiny annoyances, and then went down just as

suddenly leaving me feeling shocked & wondering what was happening to

me. My husband has used DMSA with no problems, so just bear this in

mind. ALA is also kind/good for the liver which is important to

remember for those with hepC or any weakened liver state. You have

to leave a few months after amalgam removal nefore starting ALA

whereas the other 2 can be used earlier, too.

>

> Val

>

Hi Val

I have a study published in the Alternative Medicine Review that

mentioned unfortunately there was redistribution into the brain from

ALA alone and the author's suggestion was that it should be

accompanied by DMSA to take it out of the body and brain.

There are studies I believe that show DMSA does take it out of the

brain too, its what the Defeat Autism Now doctors use on the autistic

kids and they get some excellent results though I know Andy Cutler

doesn't always agree. I found a huge amount of info re mercury from

some of these DAN doctors, most of the info is available on the Net.

Dr Quigg is one of the experts on DMSA and mercury, he noted several

side effects from DMSA like nausea, fatigue, dizziness, GI distress

etc but recommends its use on the autistic kidgs because he finds it

to be so effective. He stresses how certain minerals must be

replaced because the DMSA has a negative effect on them.

Taking glutathione in the form of lipoceutical glutathione of

undenatured whey like Immunocal is also recommended because it is a

natural chelator that the body uses and many people are low in

glutathione with the sort of illness we have and especially if

already poisoned with heavy metals.

Dr Neubrander another DAN doctor doesn't believe there is

redistribution from DMSA or DMPS because they are so strong they pull

the mercury out off the body's tissues, he cannot see why any mercury

would ever drop off. However as mentioned above the ALA showed that

there was some redistribution into the brain when they performed a

study around 2002.

I had a horrible time with ALA alone, probably because it lowers

blood sugar and I used to have a nightmare time with low blood sugar

before I got on 5mg enteric coated Prednisolone. I stuck with it for

over a year and half as per Cutler's protocol but experienced

horrendous migraines along the way. Also when my IS was retested for

allergy to mercury it hadn't gone done very much, it took 6 years to

get it down to a normal level.

I have to say I had a bad time with DMSA too but didn't use it for a

long time decided to use the sauna instead.

All the chelators mentioned here cause yeast issues too so they

certainly can be very problamatic. All in all regular use of a FIR

sauna would be a good idea to get these heavy metals out and far less

stressful on the body provided the minerals are replaced and the

adrenals are strong enough to start off with.

Pam

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Hi Pam,

Which minerals specifically do you take when using the sauna? I must admit I don't unless they are already in the cocktail of things I take (although I know I should). Years ago I used to take something called multi-mins but this was years before getting the sauna. Whether the adrenals have to be strong depends totally on whether you can sweat normally or not I think. My adrenals were certainly weak when I started and I am still on hc, but I sweat easily.

Val

All in all regular use of a FIR sauna would be a good idea to get these heavy metals out and far less stressful on the body provided the minerals are replaced and the adrenals are strong enough to start off with.Pam