Re: VIDEO - THE CHOLESTEROL MYTH

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, perhaps someone can tell me, does the part about

cholesterol being needed to repair cell damage explain partly why high

cholesterol is associated with hypothyroidism. Is it the bodies

attempt to repair the damage being caused by lack T3 and other

hormones.

regards

> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=awA2fsa94MI

> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?

v=awA2fsa94MI & feature=PlayList & p=6E576E6A7B9B75

> FA & index=0> & feature=PlayList & p=6E576E6A7B9B75FA & index=0

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[Guest guest]

Now, that would be interesting to know . Sorry, I

can't answer that one, but it sounds feasible.

Luv - Sheila

Hi everyone, perhaps someone can tell me, does

the part about

cholesterol being needed to repair cell damage explain partly why high

cholesterol is associated with hypothyroidism. Is it the bodies

attempt to repair the damage being caused by lack T3 and other

hormones.

regards

> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=awA2fsa94MI

> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?

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[Guest guest]

A lot of T4 is converted to T3 in the liver, and the liver makes cholesterol, so there may be a connection there.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hehe

That was very interesting, thanks.

Wonder if in the 'inner circle' during the 2 hour interview they

discussed the impact of low thyroid function and cholesterol as Broda

discovered in the experiment on the rabbit?

Can't say a rabbit eats a lot of sugar and not enough fruit and

veggies lol.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>

> Hi everyone, perhaps someone can tell me, does the part about

> cholesterol being needed to repair cell damage explain partly why high

> cholesterol is associated with hypothyroidism. Is it the bodies

> attempt to repair the damage being caused by lack T3 and other

> hormones.

I don't know of any evidence that would support this. It seems more

likely that a shortage of T3 simply causes an adverse deregulation of

the liver.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn - have I

missed something here???

luv - Sheila

Wonder if in the 'inner circle' during the 2 hour interview they

discussed the impact of low thyroid function and cholesterol as Broda

discovered in the experiment on the rabbit?

Can't say a rabbit eats a lot of sugar and not enough fruit and

veggies lol.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi Chuck, I could not find any evidence on line, only this paper-----

http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/61/7/736

It concludes with the association of higher cholesterol and increased recovery rate in this older group of people. Given that there is a mechanism to increase cholesterol due to greater demand in pregnant women, I've unsuccessfully tried to search for evidence of the same increase in trauma patients. Just to satisfy my own curiousity if anyone comes across such information could they let me know. (nothing to technical please)

I was wondering as one could conclude that it may be unwise to give satins to that perticular group of elderly patients as it is in the case of pregnancy: http://www.psychiatry.emory.edu/PROGRAMS/GADrug/newsletters/2005%20Statins%20and%20Pregnancy.pdf

If the same could be true in mild hypothyroidism as some of the side effects of statins sound very familiar. It may be a bit of a leap but it just the thought that crossed my mind.

Total Serum Cholesterol and Recovery From Disability Among Hospitalized Older Adults

Graziano Onder, Stefano Volpato, Liperoti, Carola D'Arco, Cinzia Maraldi, Renato Fellin, o Bernabei, Francesco Landi, on Behalf of the GIFA Investigators

1 Department of Geriatrics, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Rome, Italy.2 Second Department of Clinical and Experimental Medicine, University of Ferrara, Italy.3 Department of Aging and Geriatric Research, University of Florida, Gainesville.

Address correspondence to Graziano Onder, MD, Centro Medicina dell'Invecchiamento, Universit¨¤ Cattolica del Sacro Cuore, Policlinico A. Gemelli, L.go F. Vito 1, 00168 Rome, Italy. E-mail: graziano_onder@...

Background.The association between total serum cholesterol and health outcomes among older adults is controversial. The objective of the present study was to determine within a cohort of acutely hospitalized disabled elderly patients whether total cholesterol predicts recovery from disability in basic activities of daily living (ADL).

Methods.Patients (3150) 65 years old or older admitted to 81 acute care units in Italy and presenting with ADL disability at hospital admission were included in this study. ADL disability was defined as need of assistance or total dependence in one or more ADLs (eating, dressing, personal hygiene, transferring, and toilet use). Recovery was defined as no disability at hospital discharge in any of the five ADLs considered.

Results.Mean age of study participants was 80.5 ¡À 7.2 years, and 1305 (41.1%) were men. The rate of recovery from ADL disability was 14.5% for participants with total cholesterol <200 mg/dL (n = 306/2108), 20.2% for those with total cholesterol between 200 and 239 mg/dL (n = 144/713), and 23.1% for those with total cholesterol 240 mg/dL (n = 76/329). After adjustment for potential confounders, relative to that of patients with cholesterol <200 mg/dL, risk ratios for recovery were 1.31 for participants with cholesterol between 200 and 239 mg/dL (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.07¨C1.62) and 1.36 (95% CI, 1.04¨C1.79) for those with cholesterol 240 mg/dL. After exclusion of 769 patients with total cholesterol <145 mg/dL, the risk ratios (compared with those for participants with cholesterol <200 mg/dL) for recovery were 1.33 (95% CI, 1.07¨C1.66) for participants with cholesterol between 200 and 239 mg/dL and 1.41 (95% CI, 1.06¨C1.88) for patients with cholesterol 240 mg/dL.

Conclusions.Among hospitalized disabled older adults, levels of cholesterol are associated with increased rate of recovery from ADL disability. elevated

Best wishes keith.

You wrote:> > > > Hi everyone, perhaps someone can tell me, does the part about> > cholesterol being needed to repair cell damage explain partly why high> > cholesterol is associated with hypothyroidism. Is it the bodies> > attempt to repair the damage being caused by lack T3 and other> > hormones.> > I don't know of any evidence that would support this. It seems more > likely that a shortage of T3 simply causes an adverse deregulation of > the liver.> > Chuck>

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[Guest guest]

,

We may just be quibbling over semantics, attempting to ascribe purpose

to one outcome in a complexly interacting system. There is plenty of

evidence that inflammation plays a crucial role in arteriosclerosis, but

whether the effect of hypoT on the liver's management of cholesterol is

mediated by some sort of general inflammation response is anybody's

guess at this time.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hehe

Sorry Shiela,

I was referring to Dr Mercola at the end of the video trying to flog

membership of the 'inner circle' on his site with the benefits of

hours of videos such as this one . I was observing in this one there

was no mention of the thyroid and maybe in the other hours of video

there may be some if you pay?

lotsa luv

Dawnx