Many questions....

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Hi there-

I've been on so many boards searching for answers....

Maybe you can answer some questions for me....

I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration.

1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?

2. If " malignant " - can iodine " cure " this - rather than surgery and

radioactive iodine?

If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just " shrink " away cancer?

Thanks!

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Hi ,

I, in Jan of this year had exactly the same as you, 3cm nodule and smaller

nodules but I also had a goiter. I started my iodine protocol in Feb and had my

first appt with the endo at the end of April. My endo's appt showed that the

iodine protocol had shrunk my goiter and my nodule. I did not wait for the FDA

as I realised that I could lose my thyroid and wanted to make sure that I had

done whatever it took to stop that from happening. Cancer? You need to read

people's stories in regard to all the types of cancer and how iodine has helped

each individual. Then you make up your own mind.

My two cents worth..... iodine is a hard partner but it works if you stick with

it.............

$

>

> Hi there-

> I've been on so many boards searching for answers....

> Maybe you can answer some questions for me....

>

> I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration.

>

> 1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?

> 2. If " malignant " - can iodine " cure " this - rather than surgery and

radioactive iodine?

>

> If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just " shrink " away cancer?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subscribing....

Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its

already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing

surgery if not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??

Thanks,

May

> >

> > Hi there-

> > I've been on so many boards searching for answers....

> > Maybe you can answer some questions for me....

> >

> > I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration.

> >

> > 1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?

> > 2. If " malignant " - can iodine " cure " this - rather than surgery and

radioactive iodine?

> >

> > If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just " shrink " away cancer?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi May,

I had a scan in January which showed the 3cm nodule and other smaller ones. I

had also had a goiter for 17 years! I was told to make an appointment with an

endo for an FNA but as I could only get an appt at the end of April, I started

to do my own research as I realised that I might lose my thyroid. I started the

iodine protocol and went up to 50mg iodine with all the relevant supps and my

goiter had shrunk within 6wks. When I went to the endo, he did not take another

scan but had a real good feel of my thyroid and told me that he could not see or

feel anything which had showed up in the scan.

The endo has asked me to stop iodine for 6 wks which I have agreed to do as he

wants to see whether I have cured myself. I have been off iodine for nearly 3

weeks and my thyroid has not swelled although it has softened (iodine makes your

thyroid hard. As I am not on any thyroid meds, I have felt in the last week

that my energy levels are slipping but I am currently taking beta-carotene and

dandelion leaf to help my liver convert T4 to T3. I am also taking Neem leaf

again (I stopped when I started iodine) and Vit D3.

When I go back to the endo at the beginning of July, I will have a scan and

blood labs ready for him to see.

I will go back onto iodine and remain on it for the rest of my life as I do

believe all the benefits of iodine. Since stopping, I have had small issues

creep back, ie achy muscles, sore soles of feet, flickering eye muscle. I have

started to clench my teeth again and feel slightly tense. My brain fog is

creeping back in and my learning ability is diminishing again. I will see how

it goes in the next two weeks.

> > >

> > > Hi there-

> > > I've been on so many boards searching for answers....

> > > Maybe you can answer some questions for me....

> > >

> > > I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration.

> > >

> > > 1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?

> > > 2. If " malignant " - can iodine " cure " this - rather than surgery and

radioactive iodine?

> > >

> > > If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just " shrink " away cancer?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Together with the iodine therapy I suggest that you follow an antifungal diet and possibly use other natural antifungals in rotation.In the TV show "Know The Cause" I heard it mentioned that a possible cause of nodules is fungus. I have no trouble believing it because two people in my family had them and showed signs of fungal problems prior to developing the nodules. My mother was diagnosed with hypothyroidism shortly after I did in '00, a few years later she went on to develop benign but large nodules. In '04 she found out she had b/c and had a mastectomy, the next year she had a thyrodectomy because the nodules were obstructing her airway. It's just too bad I had not heard of the iodine therapy yet, then in '06 her cancer mestastasized and she chose chemo and radiation which eventually killed her (last August). The other relative is a maternal cousin who's had numerous health problems all her life, all of which I've learned are related to Candida/fungus. Her nodules were malignant, she also had a thyrodectomy and RAI in '07. By then I'd read a lot about Iodine and found this group so I explained to her it was dangerous and ineffective but other family members pressured her to do it. It didn't bring her markers down and the doctor wanted to repeat it but she had felt it burn her "down to her most intimate parts" so she refused to do it again. I gave a small bottle of Lugol's when I visited because she lives in a country where no one had even heard of it. She's been seeing a naturopath and so far so good. I also told her about the diet and antifungals and hopefully, if she sticks to the plan she'll make it.Raquel>> Hi there-> I've been on so many boards searching for answers....> Maybe you can answer some questions for me....> > I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration. > > 1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?> 2. If "malignant" - can iodine "cure" this - rather than surgery and radioactive iodine?> > If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just "shrink" away cancer?> > Thanks!> >

[Guest guest]

Many questions....

Hi there-I've been on so many boards searching for answers....Maybe you can answer some questions for me....I have a 3 cm nodule - waiting for fine needle aspiration. 1. What caused this (and the several other smaller nodules)?

<<SB>> Odds are three things - low iodine, low selenium and halide toxicity.

2. If "malignant" - can iodine "cure" this - rather than surgery and radioactive iodine?

<<SB>> I have a friend who did do this. No surgery or RAI = just iodine and supplements.If Iodine can shrink the nodules - can it just "shrink" away cancer?

<<SB>> It doesn't shrink cancer but iodine is able to do apoptosis. Apoptosis is programmed cell death of abnormal cells.

Steph

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

thanks so much for the response.

This is the most encouraging news I have heard to date. Was yours a

dominant nodule? I was just recently diagnosed with a 4 cm dominant

nodule (amongst a multinodular goiter that I’ve had for years as

well!) yet no doctor has ever thought to give me anything for it.

Even now all they’re recommending is surgery, though for some

reason (since doing a lot of praying about it) I’ve been hitting

road block after road block on the way to trying to get it taken

out! I’m wondering if God is not trying to tell me

something.

(I’m already on a coenzyme B, magnesium [Calm] lots of

C, iron for low ferritin, and also eat 2 brazil nuts a day.

If you don’t mind m

y asking, how you started out on IodoraL and at what

dosage? And how many other supplements you take, and whether you take

Armour? Sorry for all the questions! Just so excited to learn

of someone else who has had the same exact thing… and “cured”

it with iodine. When I first came to thyroidless (just about 1

month ago) Sam wrote me right away and told me to “back away from

the surgeon”!! in the kindest loving but most firm way, and I

backed off, just because it sounded so extreme, the idea that iodine could

help. (never mind the fact that each time I tried some kelp tablets they

would help…. at first, then had a boomerang-like effect).

Also, never have heard about iodine making your

thyroid hard? Was just wondering why you went off it for a time,

then went back on? Sorry if I missed something here.

I’ve also been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue,

so wondered whether I should begin this trial with my Cortef (have been holding

off because of unending problems rescheduling surgery date)

Scared but ready to try the non-invasive approach

first. It certainly cannot hurt, and at the very least, I can

get rid of this candida from being on antibiotics for over a year……

(and perhaps even the skin tags?>)

Thanks,

May

Hi May,

I had a scan in January which showed the 3cm nodule and other smaller ones. I

had also had a goiter for 17 years! I was told to make an appointment with an

endo for an FNA but as I could only get an appt at the end of April, I started

to do my own research as I realised that I might lose my thyroid. I started the

iodine protocol and went up to 50mg iodine with all the relevant supps and my

goiter had shrunk within 6wks. When I went to the endo, he did not take another

scan but had a real good feel of my thyroid and told me that he could not see

or feel anything which had showed up in the scan.

The endo has asked me to stop iodine for 6 wks which I have agreed to do as he

wants to see whether I have cured myself. I have been off iodine for nearly 3

weeks and my thyroid has not swelled although it has softened (iodine makes

your thyroid hard. As I am not on any thyroid meds, I have felt in the last

week that my energy levels are slipping but I am currently taking beta-carotene

and dandelion leaf to help my liver convert T4 to T3. I am also taking Neem

leaf again (I stopped when I started iodine) and Vit D3.

When I go back to the endo at the beginning of July, I will have a scan and

blood labs ready for him to see.

I will go back onto iodine and remain on it for the rest of my life as I do

believe all the benefits of iodine. Since stopping, I have had small issues

creep back, ie achy muscles, sore soles of feet, flickering eye muscle. I have

started to clench my teeth again and feel slightly tense. My brain fog is

creeping back in and my learning ability is diminishing again. I will see how

it goes in the next two weeks.

>

> Subscribing....

>

> Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its

already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery if

not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??

[Guest guest]

Hi May,

Yes my nodule was dominant. 17 years ago I was diagnosed with a goiter,

scanned, and placed on 125mcg of T4. After years of suffering from the

synthetic T4 I decided to detox from it in 2004. My adrenals were also

frazzled. After a scan in Jan of this year I found out I was def in Vit D3 (19)

and then in Feb started on the Iodine Protocol described on this forum. My

supps were Selenium, Magnesium, Vit C and Celtic Salt and I built up on Iodoral

hitting 50mg in around 2/3 weeks. I started by splitting Iodoral and taking

6.25mg and went up to 12.5mg a couple of days later, stayed there a couple of

days and then upped it again to 25mg, stayed there a couple of days etc.

I think taking too little iodine can have an adverse effect. You need to find

your level. I am talking to someone who is taking 50mg of iodoral and it is not

having any effect on her goiter. She is upping her amount.

I have read that iodine can make your thyroid hard and surgeon's use this

approach before surgery as it is easier to operate on a harder mass. It is not

an issue.

I stopped taking iodine for 6 weeks as my endo asked me to as he wants to see

whether I have cured myself. I want to know too. I am about a week and a bit

away I think before I start taking my iodine again. Before then I will have

another scan and blood taken. At present it is looking good, my thyroid is

normal. I am feeling a little tired and have been suffering from muscle ache.

My adrenals have also begun to hurt a little a.gain too.

If I were you I would do anything to save my thyroid. I think would

say the same thing. Get onto the iodine protocol asap and hopefully you will be

as lucky as I have been. Make sure you support your adrenals with all the supps

and meds.

Good luck

cindy

PS you might have a few detoxes with iodine but this is good! I dont suffer

from sinusitis anymore.

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> > Subscribing....

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> > Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its

> already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery

> if not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??

>

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Yep I would save mine if I could looking back. But then I wouldn't be here today passionate about helping others.

Steph

Re: Many questions....

Hi May,Yes my nodule was dominant. 17 years ago I was diagnosed with a goiter, scanned, and placed on 125mcg of T4. After years of suffering from the synthetic T4 I decided to detox from it in 2004. My adrenals were also frazzled. After a scan in Jan of this year I found out I was def in Vit D3 (19) and then in Feb started on the Iodine Protocol described on this forum. My supps were Selenium, Magnesium, Vit C and Celtic Salt and I built up on Iodoral hitting 50mg in around 2/3 weeks. I started by splitting Iodoral and taking 6.25mg and went up to 12.5mg a couple of days later, stayed there a couple of days and then upped it again to 25mg, stayed there a couple of days etc.I think taking too little iodine can have an adverse effect. You need to find your level. I am talking to someone who is taking 50mg of iodoral and it is not having any effect on her goiter. She is upping her amount.I have read that iodine can make your thyroid hard and surgeon's use this approach before surgery as it is easier to operate on a harder mass. It is not an issue.I stopped taking iodine for 6 weeks as my endo asked me to as he wants to see whether I have cured myself. I want to know too. I am about a week and a bit away I think before I start taking my iodine again. Before then I will have another scan and blood taken. At present it is looking good, my thyroid is normal. I am feeling a little tired and have been suffering from muscle ache. My adrenals have also begun to hurt a little a.gain too.If I were you I would do anything to save my thyroid. I think would say the same thing. Get onto the iodine protocol asap and hopefully you will be as lucky as I have been. Make sure you support your adrenals with all the supps and meds. Good luckcindyPS you might have a few detoxes with iodine but this is good! I dont suffer from sinusitis anymore.> >> > Subscribing....> > > > Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its> already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery> if not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??>

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If you can find someone who does kinesology (muscle testing), they can give you a proper dose. There are some herbalists that do this, my chiropractor does this. The chiropractors I have found that use this practice are not found in large practices that usually do accident cases. They are generally in the phone book with just a number, no fancy advertising. I just call and ask if they use muscle testing. These chiropractors are generally low priced as they are healers and not in it to get rich.

They have you hold the bottle of whatever supplement and even prescriptions next to your stomach and your body tells them what you need. I took my Iodoral in because I was confused by how much to take. I would take 50mg and within an hour my blood pressure would go back to normal for five hours. None of the "meds" my doctor had given me worked, two made me very ill. My chiropractor did the test and said to take 37.5 or three of them every four hours. I asked about how much was too much and he said that you pee out too much and unless I took over 500mg at one time, I would be ok.

Since following his instructions, my blood pressure has stabalized. He said it could take up to three or four months to get to where I can cut back. I unwittingly did this to myself. I did not know that sea salt was not a source of iodine. I quit eating table salt over 10 years ago and have become extremely ill from lack of iodine. When I tried the patch test, my stain disappeared in under two hours. Don't let a doctor tell you that you don't need it. Iodine deficiency will eventually cause fluid on the lungs, heart failure and death. It takes years to reach that point, but I was getting closer than I like.

I started researching this after having a dream about it. I think my subconscious was screaming at me to figure it out now. I was waking up gasping for air if I rolled over on one side. I think my swollen thyroid was cutting off my air. I don't have that now that I am taking iodine and the swelling feels smaller. I go in for another scan next month.

Nadine nel

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From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of elcyd23Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:36 PMiodine Subject: Re: Many questions....

Hi May,Yes my nodule was dominant. 17 years ago I was diagnosed with a goiter, scanned, and placed on 125mcg of T4. After years of suffering from the synthetic T4 I decided to detox from it in 2004. My adrenals were also frazzled. After a scan in Jan of this year I found out I was def in Vit D3 (19) and then in Feb started on the Iodine Protocol described on this forum. My supps were Selenium, Magnesium, Vit C and Celtic Salt and I built up on Iodoral hitting 50mg in around 2/3 weeks. I started by splitting Iodoral and taking 6.25mg and went up to 12.5mg a couple of days later, stayed there a couple of days and then upped it again to 25mg, stayed there a couple of days etc.I think taking too little iodine can have an adverse effect. You need to find your level. I am talking to someone who is taking 50mg of iodoral and it is not having any effect on her goiter. She is upping her amount.I have read that iodine can make your thyroid hard and surgeon's use this approach before surgery as it is easier to operate on a harder mass. It is not an issue.I stopped taking iodine for 6 weeks as my endo asked me to as he wants to see whether I have cured myself. I want to know too. I am about a week and a bit away I think before I start taking my iodine again. Before then I will have another scan and blood taken. At present it is looking good, my thyroid is normal. I am feeling a little tired and have been suffering from muscle ache. My adrenals have also begun to hurt a little a.gain too.If I were you I would do anything to save my thyroid. I think would say the same thing. Get onto the iodine protocol asap and hopefully you will be as lucky as I have been. Make sure you support your adrenals with all the supps and meds. Good luckcindyPS you might have a few detoxes with iodine but this is good! I dont suffer from sinusitis anymore.> >> > Subscribing....> > > > Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its> already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery> if not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??>

[Guest guest]

" If you can find someone who does kinesology (muscle testing), they

can give you a proper dose. " This technique is very simple to use and

can be learned. My chiropractor does it on my vegas nerve to my neck-

side on front down from corner of lip or hold it on my liver typically

or whatever area of the body it is supposed to support. The

description can be found in the book about NAET, if you can't find

someone local to do this. This can save time and money and help figure

out dosage and which product will help you. I have even done this in

the health food store with person standing nearby checking arm

strength. People like to learn it and help out. This is especially

helpful when you are really sick or have multiple problems going on.

Pam

[Guest guest]

I also had a lady in La Cresenta, CA who ran the Myrtle Tree that did saliva testing by mail. I don't know if she still does this or not. I would send in vitamins and even prescriptions and she would test those and tell me how much to take and whether or not I might be allergic to it. I had a bad reaction to something I ate and ended up in the hospital. I sent her my saliva and she called and told me I had cayenne pepper in my system and that is what the problem was (I had eaten nachos and apparently the cheese sauce had this in it).

She is a licensed nutritionist among other things. She is very honest and never tried to sell me stuff I didn't need. If I couldn't afford everything she suggested, she would tell me what was most critical. She pinpointed thyroid issues while the doctors kept telling me I was fine even though my tests always were one point above low. The last time I talked to her, she was charging $50 which included a homeopathic remedy custom made according to the test results. You could probably google Myrtle Tree. All I can remember is her first name is Patti.

Nadine nel

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From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Pamela ValleySent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:33 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Many questions....

"If you can find someone who does kinesology (muscle testing), theycan give you a proper dose." This technique is very simple to use andcan be learned. My chiropractor does it on my vegas nerve to my neck-side on front down from corner of lip or hold it on my liver typicallyor whatever area of the body it is supposed to support. Thedescription can be found in the book about NAET, if you can't findsomeone local to do this. This can save time and money and help figureout dosage and which product will help you. I have even done this inthe health food store with person standing nearby checking armstrength. People like to learn it and help out. This is especiallyhelpful when you are really sick or have multiple problems going on.Pam

[Guest guest]

Nadine wrote: If you can find someone who does kinesiology

(muscle testing), they can give you a proper dose.

Muscle testing goes back hundreds of years in the Chinese

healing culture. If you are interested in reading about it or learning how to test,

this web site will help http://www.goodhealthinfo.net/herbalists/muscle_testing.htm

Namaste`

[Guest guest]

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated!! thanks...DawnFrom: nel, Nadine <nadine.peternel@...>Subject: RE: Re: Many questions....iodine Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 8:42 AM

If you can find someone who does kinesology (muscle testing), they can give you a proper dose. There are some herbalists that do this, my chiropractor does this. The chiropractors I have found that use this practice are not found in large practices that usually do accident cases. They are generally in the phone book with just a number, no fancy advertising. I just call and ask if they use muscle testing. These chiropractors are generally low priced as they are healers and not in it to get rich.

They have you hold the bottle of whatever supplement and even prescriptions next to your stomach and your body tells them what you need. I took my Iodoral in because I was confused by how much to take. I would take 50mg and within an hour my blood pressure would go back to normal for five hours. None of the "meds" my doctor had given me worked, two made me very ill. My chiropractor did the test and said to take 37.5 or three of them every four hours. I asked about how much was too much and he said that you pee out too much and unless I took over 500mg at one time, I would be ok.

Since following his instructions, my blood pressure has stabalized. He said it could take up to three or four months to get to where I can cut back. I unwittingly did this to myself. I did not know that sea salt was not a source of iodine. I quit eating table salt over 10 years ago and have become extremely ill from lack of iodine. When I tried the patch test, my stain disappeared in under two hours. Don't let a doctor tell you that you don't need it. Iodine deficiency will eventually cause fluid on the lungs, heart failure and death. It takes years to reach that point, but I was getting closer than I like.

I started researching this after having a dream about it. I think my subconscious was screaming at me to figure it out now. I was waking up gasping for air if I rolled over on one side. I think my swollen thyroid was cutting off my air. I don't have that now that I am taking iodine and the swelling feels smaller. I go in for another scan next month.

Nadine nel

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From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodine] On Behalf Of elcyd23Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:36 PMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Many questions... .

Hi May,Yes my nodule was dominant. 17 years ago I was diagnosed with a goiter, scanned, and placed on 125mcg of T4. After years of suffering from the synthetic T4 I decided to detox from it in 2004. My adrenals were also frazzled. After a scan in Jan of this year I found out I was def in Vit D3 (19) and then in Feb started on the Iodine Protocol described on this forum. My supps were Selenium, Magnesium, Vit C and Celtic Salt and I built up on Iodoral hitting 50mg in around 2/3 weeks. I started by splitting Iodoral and taking 6.25mg and went up to 12.5mg a couple of days later, stayed there a couple of days and then upped it again to 25mg, stayed there a couple of days etc.I think taking too little iodine can have an adverse effect. You need to find your level. I am talking to someone who is taking 50mg of iodoral and it is not having any effect on her goiter. She is upping her amount.I have read that iodine can make your thyroid hard and surgeon's use this approach before surgery as it is easier to operate on a harder mass. It is not an issue.I stopped taking iodine for 6 weeks as my endo asked me to as he wants to see whether I have cured myself. I want to know too. I am about a week and a bit away I think before I start taking my iodine again. Before then I will have another scan and blood taken. At present it is looking good, my thyroid is normal. I am feeling a little tired and have been suffering from muscle ache. My adrenals have also begun to hurt a little a.gain too.If I were you I would do anything to save my thyroid. I think would say the same thing. Get onto the iodine protocol asap and hopefully you will be as lucky as I have been. Make sure you support your adrenals with all the supps and meds. Good luckcindyPS you might have a few detoxes with iodine but this is good! I dont suffer from sinusitis anymore.> >> > Subscribing. ...> > > > Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm nodule, you started your protocol and its> already shurnk down? wow I'm all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery> if not.... did you already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??>

[Guest guest]

for ADHD you should give her a good fish oil product.many psycological problems

come from the gut.try to look at that direction.

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> Subscribing. ...

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> > > Elcyd23: I too have a 4 cm

> nodule, you started your protocol and its

> > already shurnk down? wow I'm

> all ears. How did you do so? I'm facing surgery

> > if not.... did you

> already have a FNA beforehand to compare it to??

> >

>

[Guest guest]

IMO everyone needs iodine. I give 6.25mg to my 12 lb. minischnauzers.

I wish I had been given iodine in childhood instead of constant

antibiotics, and I think it's a great treatment for anxiety too.

Gracia

dawn volz wrote:

>

>

> I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as

> generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using

> iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal

> support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2

> older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated!!

> thanks...Dawn

>

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I would look at her antibodies to see if they are present. Since you have AIT in the family it may be coming on. Dr. B says it usually appears in adolescence.

I think NAET is great for many things but gluten issues is not one of them. Dr. Brownstein also does NAET in his practice and it is not a recommended therapy. He tells people to get on a gluten elimination or lowering diet.

As for tests, check her B12, Iron/Ferritin, Vit D and thyroid levels with antibodies at the bare minimum.

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

thanks I will order all these tests....Have you ever heard of using NMT (neuromodulation technique) for resolution of Hashi's...I have heard of some having had complete resolution of symptoms using that...antibodies coming into normal ranges too....Let's say her antibodies are elevated...but only slightly...is there a way to stop it before real issue starts...say selenium iodine etc...Dawn

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Re: Many questions... .iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 1:10 PM

Dawn do you have your 11 year old's lab tests? Who told you they looked normal? In the range is not necessarily normal. My children were both in the range but are on high levels of thyroid meds. My daughter is 105 mgs and my son is on 120 mgs of Armour. They were at the low end of the range. Both are doing better with energy and focus. My son still has some ADHD issues but he has recently been dx'd with allergies to dairy and eggs so we are taking them away next week. We took them off gluten last Nov and that helped.

Did you know that Hashi's (actually all autoimmune diseases) are tied to gluten issues?

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

We suspect my son is entering into hashi's (he is almost 10) based on his fluctuations in lab levels. We have placed him on 12.5 mgs Iodoral, 100 mcg Selenium M-W-F, DHA Fish Oils, Ultra Potent C from Metagenics, Multi Vitamin and Armour 120 mgs. I have given him Vit A off and on because I have read that helps with attention. We are checking into the zinc and copper levels this time because copper was high on his hair test.

Keeping their diet clean is key. No fluoridated water, bromide soft drinks or gatorade. We feed him raw milk, organic produce, grass fed meat and have a full house water filtration system with r/o drinking water.

That's really the best we can do for him.

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

OCD issues are usually food related. Gluten of course is big, followed by dairy and soy.

My son had cleaning OCD and honestly I didn't want to see that go, but here we figured out it was yeast. Once he dumped yeast the cleaning stopped and he was back to being my son.

I don't see how feeding someone gluten free could be hard on a family. Stick to the basics meat and potatoes and rice, fruit, veggies.

I took our whole family gluten free, and yes it took some getting use to. But we are so much better without that in our lives. Gluten just weighs you down, you feel ugh and scatter brained and it just weighs on you. Once we removed it, my goodness my thinking cleared. No more being tired, I had energy, I dropped weight without trying. My kids are not clouded over.

I would do some googling on gluten/thyroid also soy and thyroid are BIG.

We are back to basics here fruit and veggies just plain good food. We are growing a lot of food this year for canning. We are having fun and I am feeding a house full as well.

It takes time yes, but once you get the hang of it...Being Weak is not helping your child.

Our house is gluten, dairy, soy, crap (corn syrup, food dyes) almost all corn, and almost all yeast free. I think if I can do it working 60 plus hours at my job and no hubby at nights than anyone can do this.

Marcie

Marcie Dingerson Burger Professionals

REALTOR Your Home Buying Specialist www.MarcieDingerson.com 360-292-2569

http://threeboysandglutenfree.blogspot.com/ Check out my monkey's

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Re: Many questions... .iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 1:10 PM

Dawn do you have your 11 year old's lab tests? Who told you they looked normal? In the range is not necessarily normal. My children were both in the range but are on high levels of thyroid meds. My daughter is 105 mgs and my son is on 120 mgs of Armour. They were at the low end of the range. Both are doing better with energy and focus. My son still has some ADHD issues but he has recently been dx'd with allergies to dairy and eggs so we are taking them away next week. We took them off gluten last Nov and that helped.

Did you know that Hashi's (actually all autoimmune diseases) are tied to gluten issues?

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

And did you know that thyroid, gluten and diabetes are all tied together.

And did you know that 1 in 133 people have Celiac disease and only 3% know they have it. 97% of these that have Celiac do NOT know they have it. The testing is so bad here in America that many get false negative. This MIGHT be your only sign to Celiac Disease. The only way to know for sure is to take out Gluten. But than you have the proteins, because gluten, dairy and soy proteins are so close. And often soy will mimic dairy. Soy is just evil on a thyroid.

Do some googling...

Marcie Dingerson Burger Professionals

REALTOR Your Home Buying Specialist www.MarcieDingerson.com 360-292-2569

http://threeboysandglutenfree.blogspot.com/ Check out my monkey's

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: Many questions....iodine Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:10 AM

Dawn do you have your 11 year old's lab tests? Who told you they looked normal? In the range is not necessarily normal. My children were both in the range but are on high levels of thyroid meds. My daughter is 105 mgs and my son is on 120 mgs of Armour. They were at the low end of the range. Both are doing better with energy and focus. My son still has some ADHD issues but he has recently been dx'd with allergies to dairy and eggs so we are taking them away next week. We took them off gluten last Nov and that helped.

Did you know that Hashi's (actually all autoimmune diseases) are tied to gluten issues?

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

overwhelming!! why all the sensitivities and allergies to gluten....why the celiac disease so prevalent???is there a way to get to the root of the problem....i was hoping iodine and selenium supplementation might get to the root of some of the issues....Dawn

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Re: Many questions... .iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:10 AM

Dawn do you have your 11 year old's lab tests? Who told you they looked normal? In the range is not necessarily normal. My children were both in the range but are on high levels of thyroid meds. My daughter is 105 mgs and my son is on 120 mgs of Armour. They were at the low end of the range. Both are doing better with energy and focus. My son still has some ADHD issues but he has recently been dx'd with allergies to dairy and eggs so we are taking them away next week. We took them off gluten last Nov and that helped.

Did you know that Hashi's (actually all autoimmune diseases) are tied to gluten issues?

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

nope keep digging, gluten is at the root of many of these problems. See back in the 1920's and 30's there was only 1-2% if gluten in wheat. Now I read it's up to 55% gluten in wheat. Our bodies can not handle this much gluten in wheat. Our bodies were not made like that. So it tears our insides up.

Did you know babies before the age of two should not have wheat because their little systems can not handle it, But what is one of the first foods we give them cherrios. I know I did with all three of mine.

Go google and dig into gluten. Amazing stuff out there.

Marcie Dingerson Burger Professionals

REALTOR Your Home Buying Specialist www.MarcieDingerson.com 360-292-2569

http://threeboysandglutenfree.blogspot.com/ Check out my monkey's

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Re: Many questions... .iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:10 AM

Dawn do you have your 11 year old's lab tests? Who told you they looked normal? In the range is not necessarily normal. My children were both in the range but are on high levels of thyroid meds. My daughter is 105 mgs and my son is on 120 mgs of Armour. They were at the low end of the range. Both are doing better with energy and focus. My son still has some ADHD issues but he has recently been dx'd with allergies to dairy and eggs so we are taking them away next week. We took them off gluten last Nov and that helped.

Did you know that Hashi's (actually all autoimmune diseases) are tied to gluten issues?

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

Wheat is now higher in gluten than ever before due to genetic modifications to make our bread less dense. Our body was not designed to handle this much gluten. We also have leaky guts which allow the proteins to pass through the intestinal walls and this makes the body create antibodies against these foreign "bodies". Read the book Dangerous Grains to learn more about it. After reading this book I decided it was important to remove my children from a gluten diet.

Steph

RE: Re: Many questions... .

I have a daughter age 11 years that has OCD symptoms as well as generalized anxiety....ADHD too....has anyone had any success using iodine to deal with these disorders ...would she benefit from adrenal support at her age...her thyroid tests look normal....but she has 2 older sisters with Hashi's....any info would be greatly appreciated! ! thanks...Dawn

[Guest guest]

Cheerios is made from whole grain OATS, not wheat. There

are 11 ingredients in Cheerios – whole grain oats is the first

ingredient. The tenth ingredient – next to last – is wheat

starch. I would venture to guess that the amount of wheat in Cheerios is

minimal and that the effect on young children who eat it is also minimal.

I’m not a big advocate of boxed store-bought cereals but I will step up

for Cheerios. With no artificial colors, no artificial flavors and with

whole grains, it is a rarity among mainstream cereals.

Perhaps I’m misspeaking. I don’t know.

But I do know that Cheerios is primarily oats, not wheat.

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Marcie

Dingerson

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:59 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Many questions....

Did you know babies

before the age of two should not have wheat because their little systems can

not handle it, But what is one of the first foods we give them cherrios. I

know I did with all three of mine.