Re: getting water without flouride

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Good bottled mountain spring water would be your best bet. Apparently

RO doesn't remove everything either.

zoe

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figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know

does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can

buy- what do you think of this alternative?

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For the past year we have been getting our water from a water place, RO is excellent. I have been thinking recently though that one would have to consider that it has very low to no mineral content and have been considering that aspect health wise even for our pets.

Studies of lower heart problems in areas where the magnesium content of the water is high reminded me that minerals in our water are needed...

Possibly getting ro is the best option for now and consider that when getting a filter system? That's where I am at...we have our own well water so not worried about the flu, just other stuff, need to have it tested.

Just a thought as I have been thinking along these lines recently, I hate to have to re-add everything as suppliments. Perhaps, (thinking out loud here), one could just get something to remove florine. Having the water tested for metals etc would then be advisable as one doesn't know whats in there along with the fluoride. The present system sure is messed up lol

Bruce

getting water without flouride

Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?Pat

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I drink Essentia water, they sent me their paperwork on what is in their water, they take out impurities, chloride and also fluoride. They add electrolites and it tastes great. Kathleen

Re: getting water without flouride

Good bottled mountain spring water would be your best bet. Apparently RO doesn't remove everything either.zoeS wrote:> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?> Pat>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

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Bruce,

How about adding seaweed to soups or sprinkled on food.

Probably got more micronutrients than most waters in

bio available form. Kelp,Nori, Hiziki.etc

From: Bruce <bruce@...>Subject: Re: getting water without flourideiodine Date: Friday, 9 October, 2009, 6:21 PM

For the past year we have been getting our water from a water place, RO is excellent. I have been thinking recently though that one would have to consider that it has very low to no mineral content and have been considering that aspect health wise even for our pets.

Studies of lower heart problems in areas where the magnesium content of the water is high reminded me that minerals in our water are needed...

Possibly getting ro is the best option for now and consider that when getting a filter system? That's where I am at...we have our own well water so not worried about the flu, just other stuff, need to have it tested.

Just a thought as I have been thinking along these lines recently, I hate to have to re-add everything as suppliments.. Perhaps, (thinking out loud here), one could just get something to remove florine. Having the water tested for metals etc would then be advisable as one doesn't know whats in there along with the fluoride. The present system sure is messed up lol

Bruce

getting water without flouride

Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?Pat

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We successfully rid the tap water of more than 99.9% of fluoride using the

gravity-fed Berky filter with the PF-2 attachment. Look up British Berkefeld for

more information. I like it much better than RO water, as it retains the useful

minerals and has a higher pH. The water tastes good, unlike RO water, and is

much more cost-effective than purchasing bottled water.

from Israel

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And with bottled water you have to worry about the plastic, another issue. Not much available in glass and it is very expensive.From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: getting water without flourideiodine Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:44 PM

We successfully rid the tap water of more than 99.9% of fluoride using the gravity-fed Berky filter with the PF-2 attachment. Look up British Berkefeld for more information. I like it much better than RO water, as it retains the useful minerals and has a higher pH. The water tastes good, unlike RO water, and is much more cost-effective than purchasing bottled water.

from Israel

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My water filter guy (put in my whole house filtration system) said that ALDI's Purified water is testing good. You do not want spring water. You always want purified.

Steph

getting water without flouride

Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?Pat

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The system I have (Very expensive) does remove it all. www.wrintl.com

Steph

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>> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can

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>> water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?

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What does that cost?And is it an RO system?-AliOn Oct 9, 2009, at 10:55 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:My water filter guy (put in my whole house filtration system) said that ALDI's Purified water is testing good. You do not want spring water. You always want purified. Steph getting water without flouride Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?Pat

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I don't know what the retail is. I got a good discount as a patient of Dr. Brownstein. They have worked out a deal with the owner of the company in Birmingham MI - they are franchised. Call the company and ask for a dealer in your area. They are multiple thousands of dollars. I believe he said around $5,000 - 6,000.

getting water without flouride

Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?Pat

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I second the Berkey filter. I got a Big Berkey a few months ago (with the

optional flouride filter.) I love how the water tastes. Also I like the fact

that in an emergency situation, like if the water gets shut off, you can filter

pond, pool, or harvested rain water with it.

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gravity-fed Berky filter with the PF-2 attachment. Look up British Berkefeld for

more information. I like it much better than RO water, as it retains the useful

minerals and has a higher pH. The water tastes good, unlike RO water, and is

much more cost-effective than purchasing bottled water.

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Is that only like a countertop? Wondering as I have relatives on fluoride and chlorinated water and they would be looking for whole house as one gets more fluoride taking a shower than drinking it...

Bruce

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I now there are some things about RO that are not good. I will look up the information and send on. Our daughter has a well and we had the water tested. It is outstanding. Alice>> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can >> figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I >> know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis >> water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?>>

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I know I know low TDS water. I have read it before. I have been drinking this water since 2007 and my labs have never been better nor have I ever been more health.

Steph

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I now there are some things about RO that are not good. I will look up the information and send on. Our daughter has a well and we had the water tested. It is outstanding. Alice>> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can >> figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I >> know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis >> water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?>> Pat>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>>>>>>

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and the good news is that a researcher at University College Dublin has discovered a

bacteria that transforms plastic into a material from which new plastic can be made but

which is bio degradeable.

Glass bottles are becoming more popular and last for a long tme.

From: Yochanan <yburkett (DOT) com>Subject: Re: getting water without flourideiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:44 PM

We successfully rid the tap water of more than 99.9% of fluoride using the gravity-fed Berky filter with the PF-2 attachment. Look up British Berkefeld for more information. I like it much better than RO water, as it retains the useful minerals and has a higher pH. The water tastes good, unlike RO water, and is much more cost-effective than purchasing bottled water. from Israel> > Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?> > Pat> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >> >> >> >

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Something to do with black mold. I will find and send on.>> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can >> figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I >> know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis >> water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?>> Pat>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>>>>>>>

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Ahh that doesn't happen to the stuff I have. They are totally contained filters and I cannot change them. The guy who did the install comes once a year to change them for me.

Steph

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Something to do with black mold. I will find and send on.>> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can >> figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I >> know does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis >> water you can buy- what do you think of this alternative?>> Pat>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>>>>>>>

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The only problem is that even though the chlorine from the municipal water

source is removed, the disinfectant byproducts caused by interaction of the

chlorine with organics in the water can not be removed, b/c the technology to do

so does not exist at this time as far as I know, except for a few selected DBPs,

and there are hundreds (if anyone knows of new technology, please post it). And

these byproducts are supposedly a thousand times more toxic than the chlorine

itself. That means that the best drinking water has never been treated with

chlorine period. If and when the ability to remove DBPs is developed, that

won't necessarily be the case. As someone has already mentioned, that means pure

spring water is a good choice. But I have read that some bottlers actually take

spring water and treat it with chlorine before bottling it!

On another note, water naturally contains some bromide. Exposing chlorinated

water to ozone causes chlorine dioxide and liquid or gaseous chlorine to

generate bromate in bromide-containing water. Bromate is a known carcinogen.

Most water stores and machines use ozone treatment in addition to RO. If RO

removes bromate, and is done AFTER the ozone treatment, then the bromate is

removed. If it's done before, then the bromate is left in the water. I spoke

to Glacier water, and the person I talked to could not tell me if RO removes

bromate, or what the sequence of filtration is with their machines. And I

haven't found anything online about bromate removal and RO.

Mike

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water, they take out impurities, chloride and also fluoride. They add

electrolites and it tastes great. Kathleen

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Mike,

What about machines that can filter and change the ph to say more alkaline.

That would have all manner of implications.

Dvaid

From: mikensd <mikensd@...>Subject: Re: getting water without flourideiodine Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 4:29 AM

The only problem is that even though the chlorine from the municipal water source is removed, the disinfectant byproducts caused by interaction of the chlorine with organics in the water can not be removed, b/c the technology to do so does not exist at this time as far as I know, except for a few selected DBPs, and there are hundreds (if anyone knows of new technology, please post it). And these byproducts are supposedly a thousand times more toxic than the chlorine itself. That means that the best drinking water has never been treated with chlorine period. If and when the ability to remove DBPs is developed, that won't necessarily be the case. As someone has already mentioned, that means pure spring water is a good choice. But I have read that some bottlers actually take spring water and treat it with chlorine before bottling it!On another note, water naturally contains some bromide. Exposing chlorinated water to ozone causes chlorine

dioxide and liquid or gaseous chlorine to generate bromate in bromide-containing water. Bromate is a known carcinogen. Most water stores and machines use ozone treatment in addition to RO. If RO removes bromate, and is done AFTER the ozone treatment, then the bromate is removed. If it's done before, then the bromate is left in the water. I spoke to Glacier water, and the person I talked to could not tell me if RO removes bromate, or what the sequence of filtration is with their machines. And I haven't found anything online about bromate removal and RO.Mike>> I drink Essentia water, they sent me their paperwork on what is in their water, they take out impurities, chloride and also fluoride.

They add electrolites and it tastes great. Kathleen

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Changing pH to more alkaline does not filter out toxins, although it's possible

that reactions may take place that neutralize some DBPs, but I haven't seen any

data supporting that. As you implied, once in the body, toxins are handled

differently at different pHs. So my goal is to both maintain an alkaline pH,

and avoid DBPs.

Mike

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water, they take out impurities, chloride and also fluoride. They add

electrolites and it tastes great. Kathleen

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Mike, any tips on how you do that/

From: mikensd <mikensd@...>Subject: Re: getting water without flourideiodine Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 6:04 PM

,Changing pH to more alkaline does not filter out toxins, although it's possible that reactions may take place that neutralize some DBPs, but I haven't seen any data supporting that. As you implied, once in the body, toxins are handled differently at different pHs. So my goal is to both maintain an alkaline pH, and avoid DBPs.Mike> >> > I drink Essentia water, they sent me their paperwork on what is in their water, they take out impurities, chloride and also fluoride. They add electrolites and it tastes great. Kathleen>

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There is something you can by that alkalines the water with drops.

I use alkalined water for breast cancer.

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> My water filter guy (put in my whole house filtration system) said that ALDI's

Purified water is testing good. You do not want spring water. You always want

purified.

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> Is any of the water bought at any stores any good to drink - until I can

figure out a filter system. Right now I am using a Brita filter which I know

does nothing for flouride. I know some stores have reverse osmosis water you can

buy- what do you think of this alternative?

> Pat

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