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Does anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some

recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I

emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they

can't sell it to EU already?

about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree

- i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?

thanks

chris

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we live in the netherlands and order our lugol here in australia

http://www.strideintohealth.com/main/page_product_gallery_our_products_more_prod\

ucts.html

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> Hi

>

> Does anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some

recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I

emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they

can't sell it to EU already?

>

> about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd

degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?

>

> thanks

>

> chris

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Don't take any notice of the 3rd degree. There are so many rules and regulations in the EEC that no one is really sure about anything. Be very challenging. Make the person behind the counter justify their position. If there are lots of people in the pharmacy assure the person behind the counter that you are not a drug dealer in a very loud voice. They'll probably be so ashamed of their nasty thoughts that you'll get what you want so they can get you out of the shop.

MacGilchrist

From: chrisjtaylor46 <chrisjtaylor46@...>iodine Sent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 10:20:42Subject: Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

HiDoes anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they can't sell it to EU already?about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?thankschris

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You can get Lugol's iodine from www.healthleadsuk.com. The 30ml bottle is £9.69

and the 100ml bottle is £20.65. They also sell Dr. Brownstein's book on iodine

for £10.95. You can get Iodoral online from the USA but postage is usually steep

and if you are unlucky you get stung for VAT.

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> Hi

>

> Does anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some

recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I

emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they

can't sell it to EU already?

>

> about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd

degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?

>

> thanks

>

> chris

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Both www.breastcancerchoices.org and www.vrp.com as well as www.illnessisoptional.com will sell internationally.

Steph

Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

HiDoes anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they can't sell it to EU already?about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?thankschris

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It's bad enough that a restriction for the sale of iodine already was put in effect two years ago, at that time I got a 16 oz. bottle and there were lots of other people getting a whole lot more than that because it can keep indefinitely under the right conditions. But I don't think one can purchase elemental iodine without a special permit, if it were so, then any drugmaker could order from the internet.It is totally ridiculous to keep banning things people normally use to try to stem off drug making, the illegals users will ALWAYS find a way to get what they need, it's us, the law-abiding citizens who get screwed up (and pardon my "French"...). Because of my chronic nasal congestion, from time to time, I used to buy at dollar stores a nasal decongestant that was taken off the shelves, when I tried the "new" one it did nothing for me. I couldn't even get it at the pharmacies of stores I go to regularly because I often shop late at night when that department is already closed, so it was a BIG inconvenience for me.Here's one other example of utter stupidity, a representative from St. Louis was proposing to take baking soda off the shelves because it's used to make crack cocaine, thank goodness that didn't go anywhere... yet! And not to change the subject, but to me the same goes with some of the restrictions for airplane travel. It's all fear-based, I heard Wayne Dyer talk about how if people continue with that mindset, eventually we would have to travel naked (because terrorists could come up with an explosive that could be put in clothing).Raquel> > > > > > From: > > Nonie nmsammymsn (DOT) com>> > Subject: RE: > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > Date: Thursday, > > August 13, 2009, 4:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there are too many people and they want us all > > sick, on drugs until we die.> > Simple in their > > mind.> > > > Nonie> > > > > > > > > > > > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > From: ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. > > net> > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:03:07 -0400> > Subject: EU > > ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > > > > > > > > Here > > is the EU country list http://www.eucountr > > ylist.com/> > > > > > Time > > to stock up on your iodine now. I wonder how this will affect > > those companies that are selling Iodoral from the US. What the > > heck are they thinking?> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.grough. co.uk/magazine/ > > 2009/08/13/ eu-ban-will- end-walkers- use-of-iodine> > > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > > > > Industry insiders said the move > > could be followed by the United States and other > > countries.> >>

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if they are banning liquid lugols does that necessarily mean you wont be able to buy the pill form iodoral..if they are worried about illegal drug use i would think iodoral would not be a real concern then...From: MacGilchrist <s.macgilxrist@...>Subject: Re: Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodineiodine Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 4:16 AM

Don't take any notice of the 3rd degree. There are so many rules and regulations in the EEC that no one is really sure about anything. Be very challenging. Make the person behind the counter justify their position. If there are lots of people in the pharmacy assure the person behind the counter that you are not a drug dealer in a very loud voice. They'll probably be so ashamed of their nasty thoughts that you'll get what you want so they can get you out of the shop.

MacGilchrist

From: chrisjtaylor46 <chrisjtaylor46@ .co. uk>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 10:20:42Subject: Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

HiDoes anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they can't sell it to EU already?about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?thankschris

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Try the Nettie pot rather than the nasal decongestants. Or, Musinex is helpful. There are some decent homeopathic remedies for nasal congestion.

Jag

From: latinainwpb2 <latinainwpb2@...>Subject: Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodineiodine Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:34 PM

It's bad enough that a restriction for the sale of iodine already was put in effect two years ago, at that time I got a 16 oz. bottle and there were lots of other people getting a whole lot more than that because it can keep indefinitely under the right conditions. But I don't think one can purchase elemental iodine without a special permit, if it were so, then any drugmaker could order from the internet.It is totally ridiculous to keep banning things people normally use to try to stem off drug making, the illegals users will ALWAYS find a way to get what they need, it's us, the law-abiding citizens who get screwed up (and pardon my "French"...) . Because of my chronic nasal congestion, from time to time, I used to buy at dollar stores a nasal decongestant that was taken off the shelves, when I tried the "new" one it did nothing for me. I couldn't even get it at the pharmacies of stores I go to regularly

because I often shop late at night when that department is already closed, so it was a BIG inconvenience for me.Here's one other example of utter stupidity, a representative from St. Louis was proposing to take baking soda off the shelves because it's used to make crack cocaine, thank goodness that didn't go anywhere... yet! And not to change the subject, but to me the same goes with some of the restrictions for airplane travel. It's all fear-based, I heard Wayne Dyer talk about how if people continue with that mindset, eventually we would have to travel naked (because terrorists could come up with an explosive that could be put in clothing).Raquel> > > > > > From: > > Nonie nmsammymsn (DOT) com>> > Subject: RE: > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > Date: Thursday, > > August 13, 2009, 4:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there are too many people and they want us all > > sick, on drugs until we die.> > Simple in their > > mind.> > > > Nonie> > > > > > >

> > > > > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > From: ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. > > net> > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:03:07 -0400> > Subject: EU > > ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > > > > > > > > Here > > is the EU country list http://www.eucountr > > ylist.com/> > > > > > Time > > to stock up on your iodine now. I wonder how this will affect > > those companies that are selling Iodoral from the US. What the > > heck are they thinking?> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.grough. co.uk/magazine/ > > 2009/08/13/ eu-ban-will- end-walkers- use-of-iodine> > > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> >

> > > > Industry insiders said the move > > could be followed by the United States and other > > countries.> >>

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Perhaps I should order the Lugols from the Austrian website. I would be afraid to order it from a non Western country like the U.S. EU or Japan. Who knows what standard the other countries my or may not have. Scary stuff. I guess stock up now while you can!

Jag

From: chrisjtaylor46 <chrisjtaylor46@...>Subject: Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodineiodine Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 4:20 AM

HiDoes anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they can't sell it to EU already?about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?thankschris

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---I live in Europe and this makes me so cross! Will it effect Iodoral as well

or just " iodine " per say?

And the best bit - like chlorine is sooooooooooooooooo safe and healthy!!!

(NOT!!!)

In iodine , " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

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> Here is the EU country list http://www.eucountrylist.com/

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> Time to stock up on your iodine now. I wonder how this will affect those

companies that are selling Iodoral from the US. What the heck are they

thinking?

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http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2009/08/13/eu-ban-will-end-walkers-use-of-iodin\

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> EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

> McHale, Reporter

> Thursday 13 August 2009 12:44 PM GMT

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> Iodine, for many years used by walkers and mountaineers to disinfect water,

will be banned in the European Union from autumn.

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> The ban means that, from 25 October retailers will no longer be allowed to

sell or supply for use the substance. Some equipment manufacturers will also

need to modify their gear in response to the ban. Chlorine tablets will still be

available for the purpose.

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> The ban affects all 27 EU countries and was taken in response to US Center for

Disease Control advice which says iodine should only be consumed in controlled

doses for no more than a few weeks.

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> Pregnant women and those with thyroid problems were always advised against

using the substance.

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> Generations of outdoors enthusiasts, military personnel and travellers have

used iodine, producing its telltale yellow colouring, to kill bugs in drinking

water. Alternatives include, as mentioned, chlorine tablets, though these

produce a strong 'swimming bath' taste in treated water; boiling and devices

using ultra-violet light and filtering.

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> The main risks from drinking untreated water come from bacteria, viruses and

parasites such as giardia and cryptosporidium. There may also be chemicals

present in water, though this is less likely in high mountain streams.

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> Industry insiders said the move could be followed by the United States and

other countries.

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Yeah! In otherwords, don't be so naiive. The drug companies and insurance companies don't want the competition of a good public option. We need to focus on making sure that a public option includes alternative medicine, the right way.

Jag

From: Nonie <nmsammymsn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodineiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 4:46 PM

Well, there are too many people and they want us all sick, on drugs until we die.Simple in their mind.Nonie

iodinegroups (DOT) comFrom: ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. netDate: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:03:07 -0400Subject: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

Here is the EU country list http://www.eucountr ylist.com/

Time to stock up on your iodine now. I wonder how this will affect those companies that are selling Iodoral from the US. What the heck are they thinking?

http://www.grough. co.uk/magazine/ 2009/08/13/ eu-ban-will- end-walkers- use-of-iodine

EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine

Industry insiders said the move could be followed by the United States and other countries.

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www.breastcancerchoices.org will.

Steph

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Re: EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > Hi> > Does anyone have any mail order sources of Iodoral in the UK? I bought some recently but it was way overpriced: equivalent of $45 US for 90x12.5mg. I emailed a couple of US stores but they never got back to me, i wonder if they can't sell it to EU already?> > about a month ago i tried to buy some tincture of iodine and got the 3rd degree - i guess taht will not be sold in the UK after october, either?> > thanks> > chris>

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Thanks, I've been doing nasal rinses since April and so far they haven't completely cleared my nose. I've also used several natural nasal sprays with limited results also and guaifenesin (name of ingredient in Mucinex) on/off for several years but had to ease up on that because it makes my uric acid problem worse. Also, the peculiar thing is that the tablets don't work as well for me (need to take more...) as the cough syrup but that has a lot of sugar in it and that became one more reason to avoid it. I've also taken homeopathic drops and pills for sinuses, stinging nettle, and, well, just about everthing I've heard of. What I believe is that I already have a fungal "ball" in there causing the obstruction; maybe over time it can be dissolved... This problem started quite a few years ago due to my exposure to mold and I noticed how it got progressively worse, apparently because of my continued exposure, and maybe it won't completely go away until my living conditions change.Raquel> > > > > > > > > From: > > > Nonie nmsammymsn (DOT) com>> > > Subject: RE: > > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > > Date: Thursday, > > > August 13, 2009, 4:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there are too many people and they want us all > > > sick, on drugs until we die.> > > Simple in their > > > mind.> > > > > > Nonie> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iodinegroups (DOT) com> > > From: ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. > > > net> > > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:03:07 -0400> > > Subject: EU > > > ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here > > > is the EU country list http://www.eucountr > > > ylist.com/> > > > > > > > > Time > > > to stock up on your iodine now. I wonder how this will affect > > > those companies that are selling Iodoral from the US. What the > > > heck are they thinking?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.grough. co.uk/magazine/ > > > 2009/08/13/ eu-ban-will- end-walkers- use-of-iodine> > > > > > EU ban will end walkers' use of iodine> > > > > > > > > Industry insiders said the move > > > could be followed by the United States and other > > > countries.> > >> >>

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