Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 A Niacin flush is not a good thing to have IF you have cea, which many hypothyroids do, as it is one more autoimmune disease. Flushing of any type aggravates the condition. Fibrojay In a message dated 2/5/2009 6:48:12 P.M. Romance Standard Time, kathleenblake@... writes: a Niacin Flush, it is very common! And it’s a good thing....I know they make 'flush free niacin', but like I said, it’s a very good thing for your body to experience the flush. Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for us . I take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, sometimes I don’t. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might want to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the flush as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen Niacin? I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplements we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription.) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I don't get a flush and I take a ton of B3 in my multivitamin and ATP cofactors. Gracia Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for us . I take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, sometimes I don’t. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might want to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the flush as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen Niacin? I .. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 02/01/09 18:02:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Kathleen, Would you describe your " flush " as a very hot, burning feeling, from the inside out? My face and whole upper torso would get VERY beet red, splotchy, very itchy on the top of my head. When the gals at work look at me, they say I look like I am going to explode. ;-( It all lasts for about a half hour. Thanks, Glo > > Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for us . I take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, sometimes I don't. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might want to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the flush as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen > Niacin? > > > > I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplements we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. > > Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as " burn " flashes. When I describe my " burn " flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those " burn " flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. > > By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those " burn " flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription.) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. > > The interesting/confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex " forever " while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily " burn " flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. > > So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? > > Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > Glo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Glo, yes you are experiencing a Niacin Flush, it is very common! And it’s a good thing....I know they make 'flush free niacin', but like I said, it’s a very good thing for your body to experience the flush. Years ago when I was taking niacin, I had dropped one on the floor and didn’t realize it; later that day, my son who was 2 at the time, all of a sudden started to turn bright red. At first I was alarmed, and so was he; then I realized he must have picked up the niacin pill and put it in his mouth. It soon passed, and after that I was always very careful not to drop any! Kathleen Niacin?> > > > I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplements we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. > > Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. > > By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription.) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. > > The interesting/confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. > > So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? > > Anyone have any thoughts on this?> > Thanks,> Glo> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Okay .. rethinking all of this .. I read somewhere that you can crush up the niacin tablet and then you would get the " flush " right away. Maybe that is what I should do in the morning before I go to work? I deal with the public and employees a lot .. so really don't need to be going through this during my work day. Thanks Kathleen! ~Glo > > > > Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for us . I > take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, > sometimes I don't. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might want > to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the flush > as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen > > Niacin? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yes, I take 50mg about 6 times a day in tablet form. I melt it in my mouth and usually get the flush right away, and it passed quickly. You know its interesting though, sometimes I get a flush, sometimes I don’t. And I know some people who never get a flush at all. Everyone is so different. Niacin?> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Sorry to keep on with this, but do you mind me asking what form you are taking? Mine is called a sustained release niacin, which means (for me) that the flush can "happen" (and DOES!) many hours after it's taken. Also, is it beneficial to spread the niacin dosage out through the day? Glo From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:58:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Niacin? Yes, I take 50mg about 6 times a day in tablet form. I melt it in my mouth and usually get the flush right away, and it passed quickly. You know its interesting though, sometimes I get a flush, sometimes I don¢t. And I know some people who never get a flush at all. Everyone is so different. Niacin?> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Glo, I just take 50 mg of regular niacin, not sustained release as I have heard that its better not to take sustained release vitamins, don’t know if that is true or not, but to be safe, I just take 50mg about 6 times a day, melting it in my mouth. I have read studies recently that niacin and niacinamide are helpful in preventing dementia and alzheimers , so I know its very important for us to take for that reason as well as others. I like the idea of taking it a few times a day to keep it in my system, which is the idea of sustained release, only its more of a hassle cause one has to remember to take it! I also take the ATP CoFactors, it contains 500mg of niacin, I don’t get a flush from that though, it might be because I take it with food, or maybe they use a no flush niacin? Anyway, hope this helps. Kathleen Niacin?> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 No flush=no effect http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/niacin-scams.html Kathleen Blake wrote: > > Hi Glo, yes you are experiencing a Niacin Flush, it is very common! > And it’s a good thing....I know they make 'flush free niacin', but > like I said, it’s a very good thing for your body to experience the > flush. Years ago when I was taking niacin, I had dropped one on the > floor and didn’t realize it; later that day, my son who was 2 at the > time, all of a sudden started to turn bright red. At first I was > alarmed, and so was he; then I realized he must have picked up the > niacin pill and put it in his mouth. It soon passed, and after that I > was always very careful not to drop any! Kathleen > > Niacin? > > > > > > > > I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a > part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplements we should be > taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my > question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but > here goes .. > > > > Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed > what I would define as " burn " flashes. When I describe my " burn " > flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they > all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, > after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash > and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a > couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or > so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those " burn " flashes) I > would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can > be. > > > > By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas > holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of > those " burn " flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in > the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. > (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I > only took my Armour prescription.) After googling all of my > supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the > niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained > release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B > complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of > niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. > > > > The interesting/confusing part of all of this is that I have been > on the Bio-B complex " forever " while adding the 250 mgs niacin since > last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. > B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could > my daily " burn " flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 > months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take > the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn > flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional > niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I > take. > > > > So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of > niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that > additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how > not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? > > > > Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks, > > Glo > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Sustained release niacin can damage the liver. This is the brand I take, and my liver enzymes stay right at base level. http://www.endur.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=shopping.display & subcatid=4 & pageid=2 & p\ arentid=2 & parentpage=0 Neil Glory wrote: > Sorry to keep on with this, but do you mind me asking what form you > are taking? Mine is called a sustained release niacin, which means > (for me) that the flush can " happen " (and DOES!) many hours after it's > taken. > > Also, is it beneficial to spread the niacin dosage out through the day? > > Glo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...> > *To:* iodine > *Sent:* Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:58:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: Re: Niacin? > > Yes, I take 50mg about 6 times a day in tablet form. I melt it in my > mouth and usually get the flush right away, and it passed quickly. You > know its interesting though, sometimes I get a flush, sometimes I > don¢t. And I know some people who never get a flush at all. Everyone > is so different. > > Niacin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 My husband broke out in a really bad (i mean bad) rash well on niacin it was nasty. We no longer have niacin in this house. His mother didn't bother to tell us she is also allergic to niacin. Nice huh. Marcie Marcie Dingerson Burger Professionals REALTOR Your Home Buying Specialist www.MarcieDingerson.com 360-292-2569 http://threeboysandglutenfree.blogspot.com/ Check out my monkey's From: Glory <glonear@...>Subject: Niacin?iodine Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:33 AM I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Some people mistake the niacin flush for a rash and think they are allergic. I would be very surprised if it was an allergic reaction. But everyone is different, so it could be. Niacin?iodine Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:33 AM I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I might add .. I only just started my husband on niacin three days before he began having debilitating joint and muscle pain. I mean, it was so bad one afternoon, he could not even walk. He is on a whole host of medications for depression, RLS and sleep. He also is a big drinker. I figured that the niacin was way too hard on him/his liver. One day with the niacin out of his system and he was back to "normal". I won't be trying that again. ~Glo From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:38:12 PMSubject: Re: Niacin? Some people mistake the niacin flush for a rash and think they are allergic. I would be very surprised if it was an allergic reaction. But everyone is different, so it could be. Niacin?iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:33 AM I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 How much is "a lot"?..like a Gram maybe?WSFrom: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:39:43 PMSubject: Re: Niacin? Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for us . I take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, sometimes I don¢t. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might want to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the flush as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen Niacin? I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I take two 100 mgs Niacin in the morning and one in the afternoon.had the flush the first two days...none after that.not sure what that means?..am i not benefitting from it?WSFrom: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:58:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Niacin? Yes, I take 50mg about 6 times a day in tablet form. I melt it in my mouth and usually get the flush right away, and it passed quickly. You know its interesting though, sometimes I get a flush, sometimes I don¢t. And I know some people who never get a flush at all. Everyone is so different. Niacin?> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Some people never get a niacin flush...I get them most times, don’t really know why sometimes I don’t. I think one is more inclined to flush if niacin is taken on an empty stomach..or melting the tablet in the mouth. Niacin?> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 no, not that much, I take 50 mg six times a day spread out, others take much more than that, but for me it works. Niacin? I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have answers for this, but here goes .. Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red as can be. By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) After googling all of my supplements, the only possible culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I take. So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my whole protocol? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'll bet that this is what my husband's problem was. His liver is being bombarded enough with all of the prescriptions he is on and with the amount of drinking he does. I'll be that sustained release niacin that I gave him just helped to put him over the edge. I think that I will be purchasing the linked niacin below for myself. Not sure I would try it on my husband again though. Thanks, Glo > > > > > > > > Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for > > us . I > > > take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, > > > sometimes I don't. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might > > want > > > to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the > > flush > > > as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen > > > > Niacin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 You may be interested in this..... http://www.trackyourplaque.com/library/fl_03-008niacinupdown.asp " Because of the annoying " hot-flush " effect that niacin provokes (see below), people will take small doses (e.g., 250 mg) three or four times per day to spread out the dose. This is unsafe. If you do choose to use immediate-release niacin, never take it more than twice a day. Liver toxicity from niacin seems to develop when the liver is exposed to continuous blood levels of niacin as might occur when you take it three or four times a day. " I take 1,000mg of the Endurance EP niacin, once a day. My HDL has gone up to a healthy 65, where before it was as low as 29. Neil Kathleen Blake wrote: > > no, not that much, I take 50 mg six times a day spread out, others > take much more than that, but for me it works. > > * Niacin? > > I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally > a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we > should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be > okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have > answers for this, but here goes .. > Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden > developed what I would define as " burn " flashes. When I > describe my " burn " flash to other women who have gone through > hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like > anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he > thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different > form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other > things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, > seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those " burn " flashes) I > would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red > as can be. > By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas > holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of > those " burn " flashes. That signaled to me that it was > something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was > triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for > three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) > After googling all of my supplements, the only possible > culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take > is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is > 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. > Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So .. > a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. > The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have > been on the Bio-B complex " forever " while adding the 250 mgs > niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember, > I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they > told me.) So .. how could my daily " burn " flash all of a > sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make > sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet. > Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have > not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin > supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I > take. > So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of > niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken > that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I > wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my > whole protocol? > Anyone have any thoughts on this? > Thanks, > Glo > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Neil, this is very interesting. Thank you for posting it! * Niacin?>> I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is generally> a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen ts we> should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be> okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have> answers for this, but here goes ..> Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden> developed what I would define as "burn" flashes. When I> describe my "burn" flash to other women who have gone through> hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like> anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. B, he> thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different> form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of other> things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so,> seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those "burn" flashes) I> would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red> as can be.> By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the Christmas> holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of> those "burn" flashes. That signaled to me that it was> something in the daily supplements that I was taking that was> triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for> three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. )> After googling all of my supplements, the only possible> culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin I take> is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. It is> 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin.> Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. So ..> a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting.> The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I have> been on the Bio-B complex "forever" while adding the 250 mgs> niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not remember,> I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they> told me.) So .. how could my daily "burn" flash all of a> sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It didn't make> sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin tablet.> Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have> not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin> supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I> take.> So, my question for you folks .. is there a different form of> niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't taken> that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I> wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively effecting my> whole protocol?> Anyone have any thoughts on this?> Thanks,> Glo>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 No problem! You may find the author of what I posted below, cardiologist Dr. , has a truly interesting blog. You may find yesterdays entry helpful as well.... http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/dr-nancy-sniderman-heart-scans-on-good\ ..html Kathleen Blake wrote: > > Neil, this is very interesting. Thank you for posting it! > > * Niacin? > > > > I know this is a bit off topic, but since niacin is > generally > > a part of the recommended companion nutrients/supplemen > ts we > > should be taking while taking iodine, I thought it would be > > okay to post my question here. Not sure if anyone will have > > answers for this, but here goes .. > > Beginning this past September ('08), I all of a sudden > > developed what I would define as " burn " flashes. When I > > describe my " burn " flash to other women who have gone > through > > hot flashes, etc., they all said that it didn't sound like > > anything they went through. But, after talking with Dr. > B, he > > thought it was some type of hot flash and added a different > > form of vitamin E to my regimen and tweaked a couple of > other > > things. While the vitamin E .. after about a week or so, > > seemed to work .. it all came back. (Those " burn " flashes) I > > would get them once a day and I kid you not, I turned as red > > as can be. > > By accident .. because I was sick with flu over the > Christmas > > holidays, I realized that I did not (even once) get one of > > those " burn " flashes. That signaled to me that it was > > something in the daily supplements that I was taking > that was > > triggering those. (I did not take any supplements at all for > > three or four days. I only took my Armour prescription. ) > > After googling all of my supplements, the only possible > > culprit I could come up with was the niacin. The niacin > I take > > is from Dr. B's office and is a sustained release form. > It is > > 250mgs. I also take what is called a Bio-B complex vitamin. > > Within the B complex there is an added 75mgs of niacin. > So .. > > a total of 325mgs daily that I was getting. > > The interesting/ confusing part of all of this is that I > have > > been on the Bio-B complex " forever " while adding the 250 mgs > > niacin since last January '08 sometime. (I could not > remember, > > I had to call Dr. B's supplement line and this is what they > > told me.) So .. how could my daily " burn " flash all of a > > sudden be caused by the niacin 9 months later?? It > didn't make > > sense, but last Monday I did not take the 250mg niacin > tablet. > > Low and behold .. I did not have the burn flash .. and have > > not since. I have not been adding any additional niacin > > supplementation .. except what I get in the B complex that I > > take. > > So, my question for you folks .. is there a different > form of > > niacin that I can take that won't cause this? I haven't > taken > > that additional 250mgs of niacin for almost two weeks now. I > > wonder how not being on that niacin is negatively > effecting my > > whole protocol? > > Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > > Glo > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release > Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 If your husband is drinking enough to raise his liver enzymes, he is killing himself. Additionally the drinking is severely altering his cholesterol sub fractions, the particles that cause coronary plaque (creating small particle LDL, lowering his good HDL, and making his triglycerides skyrocket). If he continues he will have a heart attack. I had one in on January 23, 2004 (the date is etched in my mind), and I was lucky to live through it. A horrible experience.....ask Tim Russert. Mine was not caused by drinking, I've never been much of a drinker. Mine was from untreated hypothyroidism, low male hormones, poor diet, etc. That particular brand of niacin, since it's essentially immediate release, only raised my liver enzymes something like two points. Virtually nothing. Neil Glory wrote: > > I'll bet that this is what my husband's problem was. His liver is > being bombarded enough with all of the prescriptions he is on and > with the amount of drinking he does. I'll be that sustained release > niacin that I gave him just helped to put him over the edge. > > I think that I will be purchasing the linked niacin below for > myself. Not sure I would try it on my husband again though. > > Thanks, > Glo > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good > for > > > us . I > > > > take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush, > > > > sometimes I don't. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you > might > > > want > > > > to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like > the > > > flush > > > > as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen > > > > > Niacin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: > 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Glo,Under the Research Niacin part of the website:http://www.enduranceresearch.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=content.display & pageID=73is a bit about slowly increasing niacin over 6 wks to reduce side effects, starting w/250-300 mg. Cardiologist Wm (Heart Scan Blog) uses niacin (around 1500 mg) not niacinamide to reduce small LDL rather than statins. That niacin flush is seen as beneficial, altho starting slow minimizes. I believe he also recommends drinking a large glass of water if there is a flush. Niacinamide (which doesn't have the flush) is not seen as beneficial, cardiology-wise. Sustained-release niacin can cause liver issues. Of course, this is a different form of sustained release than used typically, I believe. Thanks for the link!On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Glory wrote:I'll bet that this is what my husband's problem was. His liver is being bombarded enough with all of the prescriptions he is on and with the amount of drinking he does. I'll be that sustained release niacin that I gave him just helped to put him over the edge. I think that I will be purchasing the linked niacin below for myself. Not sure I would try it on my husband again though.Thanks,Glo> > > >> > > > Hi Glo, here is what I know. A niacin flush is very good for> > us . I> > > take a lot of niacin every day, sometimes I get the flush,> > > sometimes I don't. Niacinamide wont give you a flush, you might> > want> > > to try that if the flushing bothers you. I personally like the> > flush> > > as I know it means my body is responding! Kathleen> > > > Niacin?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 2/5/2009 11:34 AM> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 So .. it is sounding like (husband) should give it another try? Maybe a lower dose to start out with .. ? Thanks Neil! That particular brand of niacin, since it's essentially immediate release, only raised my liver enzymes something like two points. Virtually nothing. NeilGlory wrote:>> I'll bet that this is what my husband's problem was. His liver is> being bombarded enough with all of the prescriptions he is on and> with the amount of drinking he does. I'll be that sustained release> niacin that I gave him just helped to put him over the edge.>> I think that I will be purchasing the linked niacin below for> myself. Not sure I would try it on my husband again though.> MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 30 New MembersVisit Your Group Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Weight Loss Group on Get support and make friends online. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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