Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroids

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I also have a question: What about B12 and B6? You can only get those

things from red meat. I know you can get B12 shots and take sublingual

B12 but the sublingual B12 doesn't absorb that much more than ingesting

from meat, which we can't ingest as we get older and lose Intrinsic

Factor from our Pancreases.

On Jul 11, 2008, at 3:25 AM, <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@...> wrote:

> And lastly you say that we erroneously believe that muscles need

> protein for building. If not protein, then what is it we need to build

> muscle?

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No. Cancer does not compete for the digestive enzymes. It does not

use them. The digestive enzymes break down fibrin which is the

material that produces tumors and normal tissue. Tumors form all the

time as a part of the healing process. When a repair job is complete,

the scaffolding is torn down and that is the job of trypsin and

chymotrypsin. When too much animal protein is ingested, these

critical enzymes are diverted for digestion leaving too little behind

for the destruction of tumors. This is why you should not eat late at

night. While sleeping, with an empty stomach, the enzymes travel

throughout the body looking for tumors that are ready to be torn

down. If we are still digesting food when we retire, the enzymes

never are released into the circulatory system and thus don't clean

up old tumors. Likewise, in the morning you should not eat breakfast

(Break Fast) because the cleaning job isn't completed until late in

the morning. The largest meal of the day should be lunch. Eat much

less at dinner and eat early, never after 7 PM if you go to bed at 9

PM.

It is true that we need folate (B9), B6 and B12, however, these do

not need to come from meat. B12 is cyanocobalamin meaning that it is

made up of cyanide and cobalt, both of which can be obtained from

mineral and vegetation consumption.

Cancer has an affinity for iron. It uses iron in its metabolism and

because the cell is so crude, the wastes are not properly expelled

and thus the iron hangs around. This is good news because iron is

magnetic. By pulsing strong magnetic fields in the vicinity of a

tumor, it can be broken apart mechanically because of the vibrations

produced by the moving magnetic field. Dr. Henry Lai of UW has

researched this area and discovered that Artimisinin when combined

with breast cancer tumors and exposed to pulsed magnetic fields, the

tumors can be destroyed. The recipe for the use of Artimisinin in

this plant used for cancer treatment was was discovered in a Chinese

doctor's tomb dating to about 200 BC. The circumstances by which a

proper form of the plant that produces the effect is astonishing. The

correct form only grows in a few places on Earth, is effective only

at certain times for harvest and must grown at a certain altitude.

The old doctor was certainly a genius or was guided by Divine power,

perhaps both.

Muscle is built by converting small amounts of protein using vitamin

A. The body needs only about 30 grams of protein daily but requires

in excess of 100K IU daily to make the conversion.

>

>

>

>

> Comdyne,

>

> I find this very interesting about meat and cancer. Of course, the

info about benefits of converting to a vegetarian diet for cancer,

abound - but I've never seen the reasons stated quite like you stated

them below.

>

> Am I correct in assuming that when you say " Red meat competes with

digestive enzymes of the pancreas " you really mean that red meat USES

the digestive enzymes of the pancreas and that the red meat COMPETES

with the CANCER for the digestive enzymes?

>

> Also, do you know anything you could share particularly about the

role of iron on cancer development and cancer cure?

>

> And lastly you say that we erroneously believe that muscles need

protein for building. If not protein, then what is it we need to

build muscle?

>

> Many thanks Comdyne, I've learned so much from your posts on

several different lists over the last few months and am amazed over

the amount of knowledge you have and your understanding of the

specifics of so many things about the function of our body and the

function of various medications - natural and not. Simply amazed.

Just can't understand how you can rememer all that!

>

> Thanks,

> Angel

>

>

> Re: New with fibroids

> Posted by: " comdyne2002 " comdyne@... comdyne2002

> Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 am (PDT)

> Wobenzym and other digestive enzymes will also help dissolve

tumors.

> These enzymes are the primary tool used for alternative (the

correct)

> methods of treating cancer.

>

> Red meat competes with the digestive enzymes of the pancreas which

> are trypsin and chymotrypsin. These same enzymes, when not used up

> for digestion, circulate throughout then body and break down

tumors.

> All alternative cancer treatments require abstinance from all meats

> for this reason.

>

>

> Re: New with fibroids

> Posted by: " comdyne2002 " comdyne@... comdyne2002

> Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:06 am (PDT)

> Good question. I simply don't know. Fish are excellent, however,

> because their body temperature is lower than humans. The oils in

the

> fish remain soluable when ingested unlike animal oils that thicken

> when taken into the human body which averages much lower

temperatures

> than do land beasts. When ever you eat protein other than that

which

> is derived from plants, it is a good idea to supplement with

> additional digestive enzymes. I like to pop Papaya pills between

> meals.

>

> Contrary to popular belief, we do not use proteins to build muscle

> mass. All of our requirements for protein can be adequately met by

> eating vegatables alone. We require no protein from animals and

over-

> all, we consume way too much of it. We need only about 30 grams of

> protein a day. Based upon the number of teeth we have (32) only 4

are

> incisors. Thus our daily meat consumption should be limited to

12.5%

> of the daily total.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this info. How does one go about pulsing a fibroid with a strong magnetic field?

sunray

From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@...>Subject: Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroidsiodine Received: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:35 AM

No. Cancer does not compete for the digestive enzymes. It does not use them. The digestive enzymes break down fibrin which is the material that produces tumors and normal tissue. Tumors form all the time as a part of the healing process. When a repair job is complete, the scaffolding is torn down and that is the job of trypsin and chymotrypsin. When too much animal protein is ingested, these critical enzymes are diverted for digestion leaving too little behind for the destruction of tumors. This is why you should not eat late at night. While sleeping, with an empty stomach, the enzymes travel throughout the body looking for tumors that are ready to be torn down. If we are still digesting food when we retire, the enzymes never are released into the circulatory system and thus don't clean up old tumors. Likewise, in the morning you should not eat breakfast(Break Fast) because the cleaning job isn't

completed until late in the morning. The largest meal of the day should be lunch. Eat much less at dinner and eat early, never after 7 PM if you go to bed at 9 PM.It is true that we need folate (B9), B6 and B12, however, these do not need to come from meat. B12 is cyanocobalamin meaning that it is made up of cyanide and cobalt, both of which can be obtained from mineral and vegetation consumption.Cancer has an affinity for iron. It uses iron in its metabolism and because the cell is so crude, the wastes are not properly expelled and thus the iron hangs around. This is good news because iron is magnetic. By pulsing strong magnetic fields in the vicinity of a tumor, it can be broken apart mechanically because of the vibrations produced by the moving magnetic field. Dr. Henry Lai of UW has researched this area and discovered that Artimisinin when combined with breast cancer tumors and

exposed to pulsed magnetic fields, the tumors can be destroyed. The recipe for the use of Artimisinin in this plant used for cancer treatment was was discovered in a Chinese doctor's tomb dating to about 200 BC. The circumstances by which a proper form of the plant that produces the effect is astonishing. The correct form only grows in a few places on Earth, is effective only at certain times for harvest and must grown at a certain altitude. The old doctor was certainly a genius or was guided by Divine power, perhaps both.Muscle is built by converting small amounts of protein using vitamin A. The body needs only about 30 grams of protein daily but requires in excess of 100K IU daily to make the conversion.>> > > >

Comdyne,> > I find this very interesting about meat and cancer. Of course, the info about benefits of converting to a vegetarian diet for cancer, abound - but I've never seen the reasons stated quite like you stated them below.> > Am I correct in assuming that when you say "Red meat competes with digestive enzymes of the pancreas" you really mean that red meat USES the digestive enzymes of the pancreas and that the red meat COMPETES with the CANCER for the digestive enzymes?> > Also, do you know anything you could share particularly about the role of iron on cancer development and cancer cure?> > And lastly you say that we erroneously believe that muscles need protein for building. If not protein, then what is it we need to build muscle?> > Many thanks Comdyne, I've learned so much from your posts on several different lists over the last few

months and am amazed over the amount of knowledge you have and your understanding of the specifics of so many things about the function of our body and the function of various medications - natural and not. Simply amazed. Just can't understand how you can rememer all that!> > Thanks,> Angel> > > Re: New with fibroids > Posted by: "comdyne2002" comdyne@... comdyne2002 > Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 am (PDT) > Wobenzym and other digestive enzymes will also help dissolve tumors. > These enzymes are the primary tool used for alternative (the correct) > methods of treating cancer. > > Red meat competes with the digestive enzymes of the pancreas which > are trypsin and chymotrypsin. These same enzymes, when not used up > for digestion, circulate throughout then body and break down tumors. > All alternative cancer treatments

require abstinance from all meats > for this reason. > > > Re: New with fibroids > Posted by: "comdyne2002" comdyne@... comdyne2002 > Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:06 am (PDT) > Good question. I simply don't know. Fish are excellent, however, > because their body temperature is lower than humans. The oils in the > fish remain soluable when ingested unlike animal oils that thicken> when taken into the human body which averages much lower temperatures > than do land beasts. When ever you eat protein other than that which > is derived from plants, it is a good idea to supplement with > additional digestive enzymes. I like to pop Papaya pills between > meals. > > Contrary to popular belief, we do not use proteins to build muscle > mass. All of our requirements for protein can be adequately met by > eating vegatables alone. We

require no protein from animals and over-> all, we consume way too much of it. We need only about 30 grams of > protein a day. Based upon the number of teeth we have (32) only 4 are > incisors. Thus our daily meat consumption should be limited to 12.5% > of the daily total.>

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[Guest guest]

New here and hate to have my first post be not about iodine

but have to dive in on this one...

B12 deficiency is an enormous problem for many people with

auto-immune issues and while I agree whole heartedly about the wisdom of a

largely plant based and raw diet it simply isn’t true that most people

can get enough B12 from plant sources even when methylation is properly functioning.

Vegans are often very B12 deficient and this is well established in the medical

literature. There are so many things that impact adequate B12 levels,

including exposure to mercury. Besides the shots and sublinguals there

are also sublingual drops and nasal sprays and other sources that can be

helpful when a B12 deficiency has been established by testing methylmalonic

acid in the urine or is suspected for other reasons.

Josie

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Certified Organic Products for the Whole Family

[Guest guest]

You can construct a magnetic pulser using an old auxiliary photo

flash device. My preference is the Vivitar 1900 and a torroidial

loudspeaker crossover inductor.

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/thumcoil.htm

Or you can spend way too much money and purchase a commercial device

that is ever so slightly stronger than the home-made unit above. I

have tested both with a magnetometer so I know of what I say.

http://www.sotainstruments.com/products_magnetic_pulser.asp

>

> From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@...>

> Subject: Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroids

> iodine

> Received: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:35 AM

>

>

[Guest guest]

Comdyne,

I take systemic enzymes (Neprinol), am trying to heal leaky gut problems. I

also take

Iodoral (12.5 mgs) daily. I have tried in the past to take Vit A but it gives

me palpitations.

I can take beta carotene with no problems. I had this symptom even before

starting

Iodoral when I tried to take cod liver oil. I have one of my sons on Dr. Ron's

Blue Ice

formula with the butter oil also. I know this is a good brand so I don't think

there's a

problem with the source. I've tried it several times over the last couple of

years and get

the same symptom every time I try it within a very short time. I also have

adrenal

problems. Any thoughts on not being able to tolerate cod liver oil as a source

of Vit A?

Would this have anything to do with being low in iodine?

I'm assuming that you're not a fan of the WAP or Paleo diet? For the Vit A,

what would you

consider the best source? My nutritionist tells me that it's impossible to take

too much

beta carotene.

Linn

>

> No. Cancer does not compete for the digestive enzymes. It does not

> use them. The digestive enzymes break down fibrin which is the

> material that produces tumors and normal tissue. Tumors form all the

> time as a part of the healing process.

[Guest guest]

Not being a doctor, I can't really make any suggestions here.

However, leaky gut is often a result of parasitic infestation. Many

insensitivities are due to inflammation which can be exacerbated when

various substances come in contact with inflamed tissue.

Low basal temperature leads to inadequate metabolism which produces

putrid residue, thus setting the soil conditions for parasites to

flourish. I would do a comprehensive intestinal cleansing program for

starters and I would also do a liver flush. Many parasites can be

removed by simply chewing on dried pumpkin seeds. If diarrhea

follows, then you have killed of some parasites and the body uses

diarrhea to remove them.

The best, by far, method of flushing out mucoid plaques in the small

intestines is by using Okra Pepsin from Standard Process. It really

works!!

You can check for Candida overload as well. Spit in a clear glass of

fresh water and observe what happens. If after a few minutes you see

what appears to be tentacles protruding below the surface of the spit

above, you probably have too much Candida. (pronounced can-did-ah)

I am not familiar with the diets you mentioned.

Beta carotine is a good way to obtain vitamin D and you cannot over

do it. That is true. There are some subtle differences, however, so

some vitamin A should not come from beta carotine. 100K/IU is typical

for vitamin A. Avoid synthetics.

> >

> > No. Cancer does not compete for the digestive enzymes. It does

not

> > use them. The digestive enzymes break down fibrin which is the

> > material that produces tumors and normal tissue. Tumors form all

the

> > time as a part of the healing process.

>

[Guest guest]

very interesting - thank you.

sunray

From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@...>Subject: Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroidsiodine Received: Friday, July 11, 2008, 4:48 PM

You can construct a magnetic pulser using an old auxiliary photo flash device. My preference is the Vivitar 1900 and a torroidial loudspeaker crossover inductor.http://www.keelynet .com/biology/ thumcoil. htmOr you can spend way too much money and purchase a commercial device that is ever so slightly stronger than the home-made unit above. I have tested both with a magnetometer so I know of what I say.http://www.sotainst ruments.com/ products_ magnetic_ pulser.asp> > From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@... >> Subject: Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroids> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Received: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:35 AM> >

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[Guest guest]

comdyne, thank you so very much for this terrific explanation. I understand. And...seems I need to make some more changes in my diet and lifestyle!

Many thanks!

Angel

Re: meat & cancer was New with fibroids

Posted by: "comdyne2002" comdyne@... comdyne2002

Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:35 am (PDT)

No. Cancer does not compete for the digestive enzymes. It does not use them. The digestive enzymes break down fibrin which is the material that produces tumors and normal tissue. Tumors form all the time as a part of the healing process. When a repair job is complete, the scaffolding is torn down and that is the job of trypsin and chymotrypsin. When too much animal protein is ingested, these critical enzymes are diverted for digestion leaving too little behind for the destruction of tumors. This is why you should not eat late at night. While sleeping, with an empty stomach, the enzymes travel throughout the body looking for tumors that are ready to be torn down. If we are still digesting food when we retire, the enzymes never are released into the circulatory system and thus don't clean up old tumors. Likewise, in the morning you should not eat breakfast(Break Fast) because the cleaning job isn't completed until late in the morning. The largest meal of the day should be lunch. Eat much less at dinner and eat early, never after 7 PM if you go to bed at 9 PM.It is true that we need folate (B9), B6 and B12, however, these do not need to come from meat. B12 is cyanocobalamin meaning that it is made up of cyanide and cobalt, both of which can be obtained from mineral and vegetation consumption.Cancer has an affinity for iron. It uses iron in its metabolism and because the cell is so crude, the wastes are not properly expelled and thus the iron hangs around. This is good news because iron is magnetic. By pulsing strong magnetic fields in the vicinity of a tumor, it can be broken apart mechanically because of the vibrations produced by the moving magnetic field. Dr. Henry Lai of UW has researched this area and discovered that Artimisinin when combined with breast cancer tumors and exposed to pulsed magnetic fields, the tumors can be destroyed. The recipe for the use of Artimisinin in this plant used for cancer treatment was was discovered in a Chinese doctor's tomb dating to about 200 BC. The circumstances by which a proper form of the plant that produces the effect is astonishing. The correct form only grows in a few places on Earth, is effective only at certain times for harvest and must grown at a certain altitude. The old doctor was certainly a genius or was guided by Divine power, perhaps both.Muscle is built by converting small amounts of protein using vitamin A. The body needs only about 30 grams of protein daily but requires in excess of 100K IU daily to make the conversion.>> > > > Comdyne,> > I find this very interesting about meat and cancer. Of course, the info about benefits of converting to a vegetarian diet for cancer, abound - but I've never seen the reasons stated quite like you stated them below.> > Am I correct in assuming that when you say "Red meat competes with digestive enzymes of the pancreas" you really mean that red meat USES the digestive enzymes of the pancreas and that the red meat COMPETES with the CANCER for the digestive enzymes?> > Also, do you know anything you could share particularly about the role of iron on cancer development and cancer cure?> > And lastly you say that we erroneously believe that muscles need protein for building. If not protein, then what is it we need to build muscle?> > Many thanks Comdyne, I've learned so much from your posts on several different lists over the last few months and am amazed over the amount of knowledge you have and your understanding of the specifics of so many things about the function of our body and the function of various medications - natural and not. Simply amazed. Just can't understand how you can rememer all that!> > Thanks,> Angel> > > Re: New with fibroids > Posted by: "comdyne2002" comdyne@... comdyne2002 > Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 am (PDT) > Wobenzym and other digestive enzymes will also help dissolve tumors. > These enzymes are the primary tool used for alternative (the correct) > methods of treating cancer. > > Red meat competes with the digestive enzymes of the pancreas which > are trypsin and chymotrypsin. These same enzymes, when not used up > for digestion, circulate throughout then body and break down tumors. > All alternative cancer treatments require abstinance from all meats > for this reason. > > > Re: New with fibroids > Posted by: "comdyne2002" comdyne@... comdyne2002 > Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:06 am (PDT) > Good question. I simply don't know. Fish are excellent, however, > because their body temperature is lower than humans. The oils in the > fish remain soluable when ingested unlike animal oils that thicken> when taken into the human body which averages much lower temperatures > than do land beasts. When ever you eat protein other than that which > is derived from plants, it is a good idea to supplement with > additional digestive enzymes. I like to pop Papaya pills between > meals. > > Contrary to popular belief, we do not use proteins to build muscle > mass. All of our requirements for protein can be adequately met by > eating vegatables alone. We require no protein from animals and over-> all, we consume way too much of it. We need only about 30 grams of > protein a day. Based upon the number of teeth we have (32) only 4 are > incisors. Thus our daily meat consumption should be limited to 12.5% > of the daily total.>

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