Re: Lowering Cholesterol

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i just read some very interesting info out of the book The Cortisol Connection by and they use a product they developed called Citricoma- uses polymethoxylated flavones and Eurycoma both help maintain cortisol but it also lowers cholesterol without lowering the good cholesterol. I found a site that is the sole marketer of it (will send link when i am home) but they are sold out....NOW also sells a product with the pmf's in it as well. It is worth researching. Also a friend who is a chiropractor in my town uses Red Yeast Rice supplement that he has great success with. You can get it at any health food store...

From: janiebeau <JanieBea@...>Subject: Lowering Cholesteroliodine Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:34 AMMy daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic? He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

Thanks, Janie

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There are several things that can naturally lower cholestorol

* Olive oil - raises HDL - the good cholesterol

* Red yeast rice - natural sterol

* Policosanol is a mixture of higher aliphatic alcohols purified

from sugar cane wax

* coq-10 supplementation is suggested to protect the heart

Also, the body produces cholesterol naturally to create necessary

hormones. Produced in the mitochondria throughout the body from

cholesterol, pregnenolone is the base material of all human steroid

manufacture, including DHEA, progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen.

It appears to block the effects of cortisol, thus helping to prevent

stress-mediated cell injury. Pregnenolone stimulates brain NMDA

receptors. These receptors, which decline with age, play an important

role in the function of synapses and neurons, influencing learning and

memory. Pregnenolone levels are directly correlated with cognitive

ability. Pregnenolone levels decline with age.

There are some who theorize that high cholesterol is a response to

stressed adrenals and inadequate levels of pregnenlone.

On a personal note, my cholesterol is 215, a little over the normal of

" below 200 " , but my HDL is 57. I'm not too concerned about it and I'm

definitely not taking any statins. I'll bet that once I get my

adrenals and thyroid healthy my cholesterol will be down to 200.

Some experts feel that getting cholesterol below 200 is not healthy.

Mercola has sited several studies that lower cholesterol is linked to

depression, stroke, impaired immune system.

Lorie

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> My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible

> cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder

> if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

>

> Thanks, Janie

>

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I have heard Red yeast Rice is NOT good for you. Here is an article by Shane Ellison. I have read alot of information by him and have a CD in which he spoke at a WAPF conference. He is so awesome!

Cholesterol-lowering drugs (Lipitor, Zocor, Pravachol, ect) known as statins are knock-offs of the natural ingredient found in red yeast rice. Akin to the drugs, red yeast rice can dangerously lower cholesterol and CoQ10 levels within your body. Like statins, it is not advisable to use red yeast rice to lower cholesterol. Both are poisons.

Shane Ellison -- Drug Companies Use Natural Cures to Design New Drugs

So does anyone have any other ideas? I will tell him about the COQ-10 and Olive Oil.

Thanks Janie> >> > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic? > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?> > > > Thanks, Janie> >>

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Cholesterol has very little to do with heart disease. There is no

legitimate reason to lower it. The risk factors are C-reactive

Protein and Homocystine. Statins have no value at all and damage the

liver. Cholesterol is required by the body to produce hormones and

many other required substances. Lowering it creates a risk for

hemorrhage and it produces impotency in males. Read the black box in

Lipitor. It states that Lipitor does not alter the risk of heart

attack.

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> I have heard Red yeast Rice is NOT good for you. Here is an article

by

> Shane Ellison. I have read alot of information by him and have a CD

in

> which he spoke at a WAPF conference. He is so awesome!

>

> Cholesterol-lowering drugs (Lipitor, Zocor, Pravachol, ect) known as

> statins are knock-offs of the natural ingredient found in red yeast

> rice. Akin to the drugs, red yeast rice can dangerously lower

> cholesterol and CoQ10 levels within your body. Like statins, it is

not

> advisable to use red yeast rice to lower cholesterol. Both are

poisons.

>

> Shane Ellison -- Drug Companies Use Natural Cures to Design New

Drugs

> <http://www.newswithviews.com/Ellison/shane21.htm>

>

> So does anyone have any other ideas? I will tell him about the COQ-

10

> and Olive Oil.

> SNIP

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[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your replys. I believe if your cholesterol is high,

its high for a reason. It is helping to heal something going on in

your body (many times, your thyroid). My Son-in-law is concerned

because his whole family has high cholesterol. I am using any means

to get him off those nasty statin drugs. So if I give him a

replacement (CoQ-10,whatever) then it will help.

Thanks again, Janie

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> >

> > I have heard Red yeast Rice is NOT good for you. Here is an

article

> by

> > Shane Ellison. I have read alot of information by him and have a

CD

> in

> > which he spoke at a WAPF conference. He is so awesome!

> >

> > Cholesterol-lowering drugs (Lipitor, Zocor, Pravachol, ect) known

as

> > statins are knock-offs of the natural ingredient found in red

yeast

> > rice. Akin to the drugs, red yeast rice can dangerously lower

> > cholesterol and CoQ10 levels within your body. Like statins, it

is

> not

> > advisable to use red yeast rice to lower cholesterol. Both are

> poisons.

> >

> > Shane Ellison -- Drug Companies Use Natural Cures to Design New

> Drugs

> > <http://www.newswithviews.com/Ellison/shane21.htm>

> >

> > So does anyone have any other ideas? I will tell him about the

COQ-

> 10

> > and Olive Oil.

> > SNIP

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A year ago, my cholesterol was over 400 (I am hypothyroid) but my ratios are

average or lower. In March, I started taking a CoQ10, Omega-3, L-Carnitine

blend called Omega Q Plus, from Dr Sinatra (www.drsinatra.com) who is a

cardiologist. In May, I had it checked and it was down to 263. A week ago, I

had it checked again and it was down to 251. It has been working for me.

Georgia

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> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:34 AM

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> My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible

> cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder

> if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

>

> Thanks, Janie

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> > From: janiebeau <JanieBea@...>

> > Subject: Lowering Cholesterol

> > iodine

> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:34 AM

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> > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that

horrible

> > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I

wonder

> > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

> >

> > Thanks, Janie

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Opps! Something weird happened when I clicked. I meant to say, WOW

Georgia! Thanks for that info and will pass along to my daughter for

her husband.

Janie

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> > > From: janiebeau <JanieBea@>

> > > Subject: Lowering Cholesterol

> > > iodine

> > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:34 AM

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> > > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that

> horrible

> > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower

his

> > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I

> wonder

> > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

> > >

> > > Thanks, Janie

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[Guest guest]

Flaxseed oil is good too.

Steph

Lowering Cholesterol

> My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible

> cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder

> if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

>

> Thanks, Janie

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Cholesterol DOES NOT cause heart attacks. It is a very necessary

ingredient to the healthy functioning of ALL cells. Without it, the

body becomes ILL. When statins reduce cholesterol it means that the

brain will be deprived from the cholesterol it needs to function

normally. Low cholesterol in the brain causes, amnesia, memory loss,

depression, alzheimer's, parkinson's, suicidal tendancies, etc.

Statins deplete the heart of much needed CoQ10 such that if the heart

doesn't get the huge amount of CoQ10 that it needs to function

normally, it goes into HEART FAILURE.

Low cholesterol also lowers your immune system and a low immune system

brings on all sorts of ailments INCLUDING CANCER.

The entire LOW CHOLESTEROL concept is a SCAM. Statins were created so

that the drug companies could get patents. Patents have earned the

drug companies 20 BILLION dollars per year. Statins are literally a

SLOW KILLING POISON. 100 people would have to take statins for 3 years

in order for ONE person to benefit from not dying of a heart attack.

99 of the rest of the people would not benefit from the statin. For

every person saved from dying of a heart attack, statins will kill an

equivalent amount of people due to its side effects (ALL CAUSE

MORTALITY). So there is no OVERALL benefit from taking statins.

phine

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> > > > From: janiebeau <JanieBea@>

> > > > Subject: Lowering Cholesterol

> > > > iodine

> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:34 AM

> > > >

> > > > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that

> > horrible

> > > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower

> his

> > > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> > > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I

> > wonder

> > > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Janie

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[Guest guest]

Yes, red yeast rice can affect your co-q10 levels, that's why it's

recommended you supplement with co-q10. Red yeast rice has been used

forever in asian cooking -- it's the red stuff on the pork. Red yeast

rice was the first " natural " cholesterol lowering supplement on the

market -- it's now about 15 years old, I think. Policosonol is

supposed to be safer, and you supposedly don't have to take co-q10

with it but it is recommended on most bottles that you do. Everyone

should be supplementing with co-q10, IMHO. It's great stuff!!

Lorie

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> > > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that

> horrible

> > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I

> wonder

> > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

> > >

> > > Thanks, Janie

> > >

> >

>

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I just read all the posts on lowering cholesterol. This website is really a plethora of great info. At the risk of being off topic, I am going to ask a question. Have any of you heard of Lovaza?

I found out this yr. that when my TSH went up, so did my cholesterol level. My holistic doctor made me aware of this. Do any of you have this same problem with the TSH being related to your cholesterol level?

Well, before I knew any other veiws on statins, I started taking 10mgs of Lipitor prescribed by my PCP. My holistic doctor said he didn't like the fact that I was on them and told me to take 200mgs. of Co Q 10. I agreed to do that.

I am open to and agree with many of the things that my holistic doctor suggests. I feel torn at times bc conventional medicine promotes these statins and they are so common now. But I realize from reading all of your posts and listening to my doctor that I need to get off of the Lipitor. My triglycerides remain high even after the total cholesterol level came down. This is why my PCP is recommeding that I take the Lovaza. My holistic doctor had never heard of this medication and said if it is natural, then he doesn't see anything wrong with it. I looked up this medication on line and it says it is derived from natural omega 3.

I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything, good or bad about this drug or if anyone was taking it themselves.

Thank you,

From: janiebeau <JanieBea@...>Subject: Re: Lowering Cholesteroliodine Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 11:33 AM

I have heard Red yeast Rice is NOT good for you. Here is an article by Shane Ellison. I have read alot of information by him and have a CD in which he spoke at a WAPF conference. He is so awesome!

Cholesterol- lowering drugs (Lipitor, Zocor, Pravachol, ect) known as statins are knock-offs of the natural ingredient found in red yeast rice. Akin to the drugs, red yeast rice can dangerously lower cholesterol and CoQ10 levels within your body. Like statins, it is not advisable to use red yeast rice to lower cholesterol. Both are poisons.

Shane Ellison -- Drug Companies Use Natural Cures to Design New Drugs

So does anyone have any other ideas? I will tell him about the COQ-10 and Olive Oil.

Thanks Janie> >> > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that horrible > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic? > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I wonder > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?> > > > Thanks, Janie> >>

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You have to understand that in order for the drug company to make

money, they have to make a drug that they can patent. Patenting means

that the " natural form " must be chemically altered in order to make it

a new " patentable " drug. Just because this drug says it has Omega 3,

it has obviously been chemically altered because it lists all the side

effects below. I would stay away from drugs and use Omega 3 fish oil

instead. phine

" Treatment with LOVAZA has not been shown to prevent heart attacks or

strokes.

LOVAZA is generally well tolerated with a low occurrence of side

effects. Burping, infection, flu-like symptoms, upset stomach, a

change in your sense of taste, back pain and skin rash are LOVAZA's

most common side effects, but there are others. Ask your doctor or

pharmacist for a complete list. Talk to your doctor immediately if you

think you are experiencing any side effects.

Do not take LOVAZA if you are allergic to any of its ingredients.

Tell your doctor about all of your medical conditions, including if

you have: diabetes, a thyroid problem called hypothyroidism, a liver

or pancreas problem, are allergic to fish, are pregnant, are planning

to become pregnant, or are breast feeding. Tell your doctor about all

of the prescription and non-prescription medicines, vitamins and

herbal supplements you take. Especially tell your doctor if you take

anticoagulants or blood thinners to reduce clotting. These include

aspirin, warfarin, Coumadin® (warfarin sodium)1 and Plavix®

(clopidogrel).2

Your doctor should check your triglyceride and cholesterol levels, and

monitor your liver function during treatment with LOVAZA. "

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> > > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking that

horrible

> > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his

> > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic?

> > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and I

wonder

> > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?

> > >

> > > Thanks, Janie

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Definite possibility. Low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. He should also add lots of fish oil and maybe some red rice yeast if he's really high. But I'd encourage him to get his thyroid checked.

BarbF

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Thank you for your response and insight. I have been taking (1) 1200mg Fish Oil softgel tablet a day for 2 yrs. now. Maybe I can just increase that instead of taking the Lovaza. Do you have an opinion as to how many a day would be effective?

Also, if anyone knows of a high cholesterol support group, please list, thank you.

Thanks,

From: jlkinkona <josephine@...>Subject: Re: Lowering Cholesteroliodine Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 12:23 AM

You have to understand that in order for the drug company to makemoney, they have to make a drug that they can patent. Patenting meansthat the "natural form" must be chemically altered in order to make ita new "patentable" drug. Just because this drug says it has Omega 3,it has obviously been chemically altered because it lists all the sideeffects below. I would stay away from drugs and use Omega 3 fish oilinstead. phine "Treatment with LOVAZA has not been shown to prevent heart attacks orstrokes.LOVAZA is generally well tolerated with a low occurrence of sideeffects. Burping, infection, flu-like symptoms, upset stomach, achange in your sense of taste, back pain and skin rash are LOVAZA'smost common side effects, but there are others. Ask your doctor orpharmacist for a complete list. Talk to your doctor immediately if youthink you are experiencing any side effects.Do not take

LOVAZA if you are allergic to any of its ingredients.Tell your doctor about all of your medical conditions, including ifyou have: diabetes, a thyroid problem called hypothyroidism, a liveror pancreas problem, are allergic to fish, are pregnant, are planningto become pregnant, or are breast feeding. Tell your doctor about allof the prescription and non-prescription medicines, vitamins andherbal supplements you take. Especially tell your doctor if you takeanticoagulants or blood thinners to reduce clotting. These includeaspirin, warfarin, Coumadin® (warfarin sodium)1 and Plavix®(clopidogrel) .2Your doctor should check your triglyceride and cholesterol levels, andmonitor your liver function during treatment with LOVAZA."> > >> > > My daughter finally persuaded her husband to stop taking thathorrible > > > cholesterol lowering meds. What can he take naturally to lower his > > > cholesterol? CoQ-10 and garlic? > > > He really isn't fat but he has that double chin going on and Iwonder > > > if perhaps he has just a bit of a thyroid problem going on?> > > > > > Thanks, Janie> > >> >>

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wrote:

Thank you for your response and insight. I have been taking (1) 1200mg Fish

Oil softgel tablet a day for 2 yrs. now. Maybe I can just increase that

instead of taking the Lovaza. Do you have an opinion as to how many a day

would be effective?

Also, if anyone knows of a high cholesterol support group, please list,

thank you.

,

For a great heart disease prevention and reversal website, written by Dr.

, a cardiologist, see http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com. Some of the

preventive measures he recommends are fish oil, Vitamin D, niacin, and and

strict carbohydrate restriction. If you look up fish oil on that site, he

might give recommended amounts. At his companion website,

http://www.trackyourplaque.com/, a member site with some

free features, there is a free feature of stories of people who have

successfully reversed heart disease using his methods.

Several blogs on heartscanblog in the last 2 weeks have been about Tim

Russert and how conventional medical treatment did not help his heart

disease. Dr. strongly believes Tim

Russert's death could have been prevented. He doesn't think statins, nor

aspirin therapy, nor blood pressure medicine do much to improve heart

disease.

Both hypothyroidism and a high carbohydrate diet are causes of high

cholesterol. Your body is producing high levels of cholesterol because it

needs it as a repair product. You need to look at factors that are creating

the need for that repair product. Don't focus on cholesterol levels; try

to figure out the underlying problems.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn:

Thank you so much for your response. I will certainly read up on the links you posted.

Thank you for your response and insight. I have been taking (1) 1200mg Fish

Oil softgel tablet a day for 2 yrs. now. Maybe I can just increase that

instead of taking the Lovaza. Do you have an opinion as to how many a day

would be effective?

Also, if anyone knows of a high cholesterol support group, please list,

thank you.

,

For a great heart disease prevention and reversal website, written by Dr.

, a cardiologist, see http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com. Some of the

preventive measures he recommends are fish oil, Vitamin D, niacin, and and

strict carbohydrate restriction. If you look up fish oil on that site, he

might give recommended amounts. At his companion website,

http://www.trackyourplaque.com/, a member site with some

free features, there is a free feature of stories of people who have

successfully reversed heart disease using his methods.

Several blogs on heartscanblog in the last 2 weeks have been about Tim

Russert and how conventional medical treatment did not help his heart

disease. Dr. strongly believes Tim

Russert's death could have been prevented. He doesn't think statins,

nor

aspirin therapy, nor blood pressure medicine do much to improve heart

disease.

Both hypothyroidism and a high carbohydrate diet are causes of high

cholesterol. Your body is producing high levels of cholesterol because it

needs it as a repair product. You need to look at factors that are creating

the need for that repair product. Don't focus on cholesterol levels; try

to figure out the underlying problems.

Lynn

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[Guest guest]

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After giving you the link, I decided to see for myself what Dr. said about fish oil. Go to http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search/label/Fish%20oiland he has a number of blogs there about fish oil. The one on 4/25/08 gets into dosing, although he touches on it elsewhere as well.

In his 11/5/06 blog "A little bit of fish oil", and particularly in the comments to that blog, he discusses Omacor, aka Lovaza. Sounds like it's just a pharmaceutical version of fish oil, although exceedingly more expensive and not any more effective, at least in Dr. ' opinion.

Lynn

Hi Lynn:

Thank you so much for your response. I will certainly read up on the links you posted.

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Lynn McGaha wrote:

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Cholesterol has almost nothing to do with heart disease. Lowering it

is dangerous and unnecessary. The higher the cholesterol from a range

of 220-300 indicates excellent health. All this advertising is

nothing but a scam. Low cholesterol can lead to disease proliferation

and hemorrhaging; just twhat the 'profession' wants to have happen.

They want everybody sick. Healthy people don't contribute to Mercedes

payments of golf club dues. Read the black box on the Lipitor package.

It says that Lipitor does not lower the risk for a heart attack.

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Comdyne,

Can you reference the source from which your claim on healthy cholesterol levels (220-300) is based? If it's true, we've truly been duped.

Vj

From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@...>Subject: Re: Lowering Cholesteroliodine Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:48 PM

Cholesterol has almost nothing to do with heart disease. Lowering it is dangerous and unnecessary. The higher the cholesterol from a range of 220-300 indicates excellent health. All this advertising is nothing but a scam. Low cholesterol can lead to disease proliferation and hemorrhaging; just twhat the 'profession' wants to have happen. They want everybody sick. Healthy people don't contribute to Mercedes payments of golf club dues. Read the black box on the Lipitor package.It says that Lipitor does not lower the risk for a heart attack. > > > ,> > > >> >> > .> >> >>

[Guest guest]

There are numerous books amd articles about the cholseterol scam.

Just google 'cholesterol scam' and you will find more info than you

could read in a lifetime.

http://www.spacedoc.net/cholesterol_scam.html

http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Trillion-Dollar-Health-Scam-

19438.aspx

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> From: comdyne2002 <comdyne@...>

> Subject: Re: Lowering Cholesterol

> iodine

> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:48 PM

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> Cholesterol has almost nothing to do with heart disease. Lowering

it

> is dangerous and unnecessary. The higher the cholesterol from a

range

> of 220-300 indicates excellent health. All this advertising is

> nothing but a scam. Low cholesterol can lead to disease

proliferation

> and hemorrhaging; just twhat the 'profession' wants to have happen.

> They want everybody sick. Healthy people don't contribute to

Mercedes

> payments of golf club dues. Read the black box on the Lipitor

package.

> It says that Lipitor does not lower the risk for a heart attack.

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I TOTALLY agree with this!!!!!!! My dad was on statins for YEARS and has had 2 heart attacks and now has Parkinson's Disease! Statins also effect the brain.

I took him off the statins and his heart is doing fabulous even tho doctors still want him on statin drugs when his cholesterol is below 250.

Doctors tried to put both of my parents and myself on statins and I refused. There's nothing they could do but document it!

Blessings,

Rhonda

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Cholesterol has almost nothing to do with heart disease. Lowering it is dangerous and unnecessary. The higher the cholesterol from a range of 220-300 indicates excellent health. All this advertising is nothing but a scam. Low cholesterol can lead to disease proliferation and hemorrhaging; just twhat the 'profession' wants to have happen. They want everybody sick. Healthy people don't contribute to Mercedes payments of golf club dues. Read the black box on the Lipitor package.It says that Lipitor does not lower the risk for a heart attack.

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[Guest guest]

Another good source is the Weston Price Foundation. Weston Price was a

dentist in the early part of the 1900's who travelled the world and

analyzed native groups foods and their health. It is a fascinating

study, and there is a lot of information on that website. Particularly

of interest is the studies that Enig has done recently as she is

a world renowned lipid researcher.

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[Guest guest]

I know oatmeal helps 'clean out the arteries' and should contribute to lower LDL and I recently read that Kale 'Juice', Cocoa, and Sunflower seeds play a big role in raising the HDL (good), which would help lower the LDL as a result.

My husband has cholesterol issues and he will be drinking some sort of Kale/Cocoa smoothie as soon as I master a recipe http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/the-new-cholesterol-diet-oatmeal-oat-bran

http://cholesterol.ygoy.com/?p=669Hopefully those help, looking forward to more responses as this is a topic I am interested in as well.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:40 AM, flnancy1958 <pravern@...> wrote:

 

Just got back some blood work and had my annual physical. Everything good but Dr. wants me to work on lowering triglicerides. Good news is that the bad stuff was in the good range and she liked that I was doing natural stuff and was very interested in my Vitamix. However, she recommended me trying red yeast rice and I read about some side effects so want to try a more active food approach. I know about oat bran and fish oil, but any good vitamix recipes anyone can recommend? Thanks in advance.