Re: SSRI's and iodine

[Guest guest]

More on that question. Iodine builds your thyroid up and SSRI's work

because they tamp your thyroid down. They seem to war with each other.

I'm wondering if depression shouldn't be treated with total hormonal

balance? A doctor who understands that and know's the right tests,

blood or saliva, how to read the tests and willingness to prescribe the

right kind of hormones would have to be found.

Funds for this are out of reach for me so I fight anxiety and

depression with walking with my friends. When they aren't available or

winter with it's clouds come, I'm pretty lost.

I wonder if there are free groups to help each other are around each

area. Put out a call for whatever area you are in. I'm in Los Gatos CA

so if anyone else is here to group around with let me know off line.

artpages@...

On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:12 AM, zonie0400 wrote:

> Hi There,

>

> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> better in general after that but really need something to help me over

> this depression and anxiety while I wait.

>

> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> fluorine it has in it.

>

> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

>

>

> Thank you,

>

> Gigi

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, so I'm still wondering if it's advised to take iodoral with ssri's or

not.

I'm between a rock and a hard spot then because I've had chronic health issues

in general for 3 years because of a fluoroquinolone antibiotic.

I have secondary adrenal insufficiency, hypthyroidism preextisting.

I've got most of my hormones balanced I think. I take bioidentical hormone

replacement due to an early hyster.

The main problem right now is the reverse T3.

So should one raise there thryoid homrones while on ssri's?

I hope you feel better too,

Gigi

>

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> > currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> > better in general after that but really need something to help me over

> > this depression and anxiety while I wait.

> >

> > My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> > want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> > fluorine it has in it.

> >

> > I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

> >

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Gigi

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

i don't know whether you should or not - but i'm on zoloft and am in the process of coming off of it - i haven't had any weird effects and i've taken them together for over 2 months now - i'm coming off the zoloft because of the excess sweating that i get from it - i'd rather deal with being a little anxious versus being soaked w/sweat in 50 degree weather - lol!

tanya

SSRI's and iodine

Hi There,I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while I wait.My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in it.I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssriThank you,Gigi

[Guest guest]

I would think it was ok to take them

together… but I am not a professional and can’t say for sure.

You say you have your hormones balanced,

but if you have anxiety and depression you obviously don’t! J Anxiety is usually

low cortisol (adrenal insufficiency) and depression is low thyroid

(hypothyroid). As you know, thyroid hormones are made from iodine.

And you need cortisol to utilize thyroid. Have you checked your adrenals

via salia tests? What form of thyroid med are you taking? If it has

T4 in it, you will only make your RT3 problem worse. I know that from my

own experience. And if you aren’t supporting your adrenals while

taking thyroid it will makes things worse.

According to some, the only way to reduce

RT3 is to support adrenals (usually via cortisol) and take T3 only thyroid meds

(like Cytomel). That’s what I’ve been doing and it is

working. It’s going to take a long time, but I’m getting

there! RT3_T3/

is a great place to find info.

I too had issues with a fluoroquinolone

antibiotic. It takes a long time to get over that too. I was a mess

for about 2 years after taking Cipro. Made my Fibromyalgia a ton

worse. It was a horrid 2 years.

I so feel for you. I’ve been

there and done that. I took every anti-depressant known, and none of them

worked very well or for very long. But if you need it, take it. But

try to balance your hormones and get off the anti-depressants. The side

effects are not worth it.

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of zonie0400

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:37

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: SSRI's and

iodine

Thanks, so I'm still wondering if it's advised to take

iodoral with ssri's or not.

I'm between a rock and a hard spot then because I've had chronic health issues

in general for 3 years because of a fluoroquinolone antibiotic.

I have secondary adrenal insufficiency, hypthyroidism preextisting.

I've got most of my hormones balanced I think. I take bioidentical hormone

replacement due to an early hyster.

The main problem right now is the reverse T3.

So should one raise there thryoid homrones while on ssri's?

I hope you feel better too,

Gigi

>

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> > currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> > better in general after that but really need something to help me

over

> > this depression and anxiety while I wait.

> >

> > My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> > want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> > fluorine it has in it.

> >

> > I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

> >

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Gigi

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Please don't start down this path of SSRI's it only poisons enzymes and blocks receptors and your body was built to need this stuff. Let me get some info together on how you can handle it naturally. I was given a rx for Zoloft and took 1 and then just knew in my gut it wasn't the answer. You can make a bad situation much worse by adding this to your intake.

SSRI's and iodine

Hi There,I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while I wait.My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in it.I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssriThank you,Gigi

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks so much.

Well, I know for a fact that I have a reverse T3 problem. That has been an

issue since the fluoroquinolones and maybe before even.

The FQ's caused major anxiety and panick attacks immediately after taking it. I

also have nerve/tendon damage. I had anxiety for a full 2 plus years. It

slowly got better over time until the beginning of this year and I had my very

first reprieve from the CNS issues fromt eh FQ's. I was totally symptoms free

for almost 4 months.

No anxiety, depression, dizziness, breathing problems etc......nothing! It was

glorious and I thought I had finally beaten this FQ toxicity issue.

Then the beginning of May....into a down cycle. First the breathing problems,

then dizziness, then WHAMMO big time anxiety and depression hit. It literally

broadsided me.

So I'm hoping if I get out of this FQ cycle then the rest will start getting

better too.

I take HC for years now for what was believed to be secondary adrenal insuff.

Although my acth has fluctuated after the FQ's so I know the fluoroquinolones

(FQ's) affect the pituitary somehow.

So I will probably have to increase my cytomel a bit after starting on zoloft?

I have been on all T3 for about a week and a half now.

I just don't want the zoloft to interfere with clearing my reverse T3.

What I have noticed is that the past 4 days or so (just started zoloft

yesterday) my BP and pulse have fluctuated a bit but they are in general quite

low.

So wondering if I should up my HC dose of 27.5mgs to a bit higher. I'm going to

add in a bit more cytomel today too. Temps were getting better in general but

this morning my temp was 97.4 before taking any thyroid meds.

I always wonder if the temp drop in the morning can be because I'm on all T3 adn

it's half life is shorter so do temps drop through the night.

Did you also have central nervous system ADR's from the cipro? I took avelox

and other FQ's before that not knowing they were causing me harm. I've suffered

a severe reaction but am hopeful since I had 4 months of almost no ADR's besided

chronic pain that I can indeed get there again.

Thanks so much for your time and feedback.

Gigi

> >

> > > Hi There,

> > >

> > > I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> > > currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> > > better in general after that but really need something to help me over

> > > this depression and anxiety while I wait.

> > >

> > > My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> > > want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> > > fluorine it has in it.

> > >

> > > I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Gigi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi There,

I've read/researched about SSRI's and I don't want to take them. I " ve tried

them many many years ago in my late teens and twenties and didn't like them back

them and didn't take them ofr long but they did seem to get me over the hump. I

wasn't hypothyroid yet then either.

I've tried natural things like 5HTP and such and it didn't make enough of a

difference as soon as I need it to.

I am very depressed.

So I feel like I don't have a choice but to get me over the hump.

I am so scared right now on many levels and debated over the ssri's for a while

but I need help now. It's urgent that I feel better soon.

Gigi

>

> Please don't start down this path of SSRI's it only poisons enzymes and blocks

receptors and your body was built to need this stuff. Let me get some info

together on how you can handle it naturally. I was given a rx for Zoloft and

took 1 and then just knew in my gut it wasn't the answer. You can make a bad

situation much worse by adding this to your intake.

>

>

>

>

>

> SSRI's and iodine

>

>

> Hi There,

>

> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently

trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after

that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while

I wait.

>

> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to

hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in

it.

>

> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

>

> Thank you,

>

> Gigi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and thanks,

Do you also take thyroid meds? If so, did you have to increase your dose?

What dose were you taking of zoloft? My doc started me at 25mgs then he wants

me to go to 50mgs and then 100mgs.

I think I will stop at 50mgs because I want the lowest dose that helps me and if

I zoom up the dose like he wants I won't know what the lowest possible dose that

works is.

Thanks,

Gigi

>

> i don't know whether you should or not - but i'm on zoloft and am in the

process of coming off of it - i haven't had any weird effects and i've taken

them together for over 2 months now - i'm coming off the zoloft because of the

excess sweating that i get from it - i'd rather deal with being a little anxious

versus being soaked w/sweat in 50 degree weather - lol!

>

> tanya

>

> SSRI's and iodine

>

>

> Hi There,

>

> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently

trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after

that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while

I wait.

>

> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to

hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in

it.

>

> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

>

> Thank you,

>

> Gigi

>

[Guest guest]

I had only been diagnosed with Fibro about

a year when I took Cipro for bronchitis (I think). For a solid year after

that I was miserable, then another year that was not so good. My husband

would very lightly touch me and it felt like he was hitting me with a paddle of

hot needles! I would spend days in bed unable to move from all of the

pain – I could barely walk to the bathroom. It would come and go to

some degree, but it was horrible. During that time (which was 1998-99), I

thought it was just the Fibro. I only recently found out about the fluoro

stuff and made that connection. It’s like it intesified my already horrid

state of Fibro.

Have you checked your aldosterone? I

have low blood pressure/orthostatic hypotension and it has a lot to do with low

aldosterone. I know when I first started balancing my hormones, I just

did T3 and cortef. When I added Florinef (for the aldosterone) I felt

great! It was like it was the missing link!

Do you check your temps? I’d

suggest doing that. Go to http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

and follow his instructions. 97.4 is hypothyroid (basal temp). I’m

finally starting to see my basal temps go up. I started all of this last

fall, but decided around Christmas to try to switch back to Armour. Big

mistake. I crashed. I’ve been on all T3 again since April and

I’m finally seeing some RT3 clearing. It takes forever! 3

months is usually the least amount of time it takes. But you have to make

sure your adrenals are supported well enough before increasing thyroid meds. If

you do the temp graphing, you can determine what’s going on and if you

are ready for a raise in either cortisol or T3. I swear by it!

I’d probably not take the Zoloft

unless you are on the couch and unable to function. It will absolutely

mess with your adrenals and thyroid and you don’t need that. I know

when I started taking the cortef I felt less anxiety immediately. Maybe

you need to ‘stress dose’ to see if that helps. Take 10-20 mg

extra (over the course of the day) to see if that helps. It usually helps

me if I get anxious for any reason. Sometimes that’s not the cause

of the anxiety, but an extra 10mg dose won’t hurt if it’s not.

I’d go to the RT3_T3 site and ask

questions. They are familiar with the fluoro’s and such there too. (At

least I seem to remember they are.) They are a very knowledgeable group

and can really help better than I can.

I will help any way I can. I hate to

see anyone in any kind of pain!

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of zonie0400

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:04

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: SSRI's and

iodine

Hi ,

Thanks so much.

Well, I know for a fact that I have a reverse T3 problem. That has been an

issue since the fluoroquinolones and maybe before even.

The FQ's caused major anxiety and panick attacks immediately after taking it. I

also have nerve/tendon damage. I had anxiety for a full 2 plus years. It slowly

got better over time until the beginning of this year and I had my very first

reprieve from the CNS issues fromt eh FQ's. I was totally symptoms free for

almost 4 months.

No anxiety, depression, dizziness, breathing problems etc......nothing! It was

glorious and I thought I had finally beaten this FQ toxicity issue.

Then the beginning of May....into a down cycle. First the breathing problems,

then dizziness, then WHAMMO big time anxiety and depression hit. It literally

broadsided me.

So I'm hoping if I get out of this FQ cycle then the rest will start getting

better too.

I take HC for years now for what was believed to be secondary adrenal insuff.

Although my acth has fluctuated after the FQ's so I know the fluoroquinolones

(FQ's) affect the pituitary somehow.

So I will probably have to increase my cytomel a bit after starting on zoloft?

I have been on all T3 for about a week and a half now.

I just don't want the zoloft to interfere with clearing my reverse T3.

What I have noticed is that the past 4 days or so (just started zoloft

yesterday) my BP and pulse have fluctuated a bit but they are in general quite

low.

So wondering if I should up my HC dose of 27.5mgs to a bit higher. I'm going to

add in a bit more cytomel today too. Temps were getting better in general but

this morning my temp was 97.4 before taking any thyroid meds.

I always wonder if the temp drop in the morning can be because I'm on all T3

adn it's half life is shorter so do temps drop through the night.

Did you also have central nervous system ADR's from the cipro? I took avelox

and other FQ's before that not knowing they were causing me harm. I've suffered

a severe reaction but am hopeful since I had 4 months of almost no ADR's

besided chronic pain that I can indeed get there again.

Thanks so much for your time and feedback.

Gigi

> >

> > > Hi There,

> > >

> > > I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> > > currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will

feel

> > > better in general after that but really need something to help

me over

> > > this depression and anxiety while I wait.

> > >

> > > My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I

don't

> > > want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of

the

> > > fluorine it has in it.

> > >

> > > I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Gigi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

i'd love to hear what you find out also - i'm in the process of coming off of them and would love another alternative.

SSRI's and iodine

Hi There,I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while I wait.My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in it.I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssriThank you,Gigi

[Guest guest]

Ok, here is what you should look into if you are interested in avoiding an SSRI> It will not be a quick fix but it will not add to the issues you are having as it will with an SSRI.

First, the Cipro you were on is a fluoride based product. This is bad in many ways - as you found out now having tendon issues. The fluoride blocks thyroid hormones by blocking iodine absorption and utilization by the body. In doing this you were not getting the hormones you needed to increase your body's metabolic rate to function. Thank God he created us with a back up plan. These are the adrenals. When the thyroid lets us down the adrenals pick up the slack. This can only happen for a short period of time as they are the sprinters - not the marathon runners. We were designed to use them in fight or flight situations when you need adrenaline. But when we produce this for a long period of time we fall into adrenal fatigue which results in high cortisol levels. This cause the weight gain and mood changes along with sleep disruptions. Our sex hormones go in the tank because the adrenals don't multi task well and you need the energy so they just slack off on the sex hormones and then we hit a wall. Because those are needed too.

Second, being on Cipro, it is a toxic drug. This has more than likely caused your liver to be overloaded. When your liver is toxic your body is toxic and this creates issues with mood disorders.

Third, the gut. Drugs destroy healthy gut bacteria and most of us do not take enough probiotics. Cipro being a broad spectrum antibiotic wipes out all of it. Good and bad. Did your doctor put you on a high dose probiotic when you were on this antibiotic? My guess is no. Did you or do you suffer from yeast infections or athletes foot? I am betting you have a raging case of candida and this can also alter moods.

So if I were in your shoes, I would do the following. You are not suffering from a SSRI deficiency. No need to throw a blanket over your issues which is what this will do.

1. Check Vit D levels - 25 OH levels Should be between 60 -70

2. Get in the sun for 20 mins each day. That will help with Vit D, Seretonin and Melatonin balancing.

3. Clean up your diet (if you haven't already). No whites - sugars, breads, crackers, cookies. It's all junk and stresses your immune system and adrenals. No artificial sweeteners either. Get rid of HFCS - it's in everything. Eat good grass fed meats, fruits and veggies.

4. Detox your liver!! You may want to investigate a good program that will clean it up after all the junk it has had to deal with. I did a 28 day protocol with Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus (www.organicpharmacy.com - book and 3 cans of product is what you need and is about $210). It is pricey but it took care of my anxiety and depression in the 4 weeks.

5. Take in adequate Vit C (3,000 - 5,000 mgs) and Celtic Salt to help the adrenals. They are the largest storage of Vit C in the body.

6. Get your iodine - 50 mgs is the minimum I would say with all the fluoride you got from Cipro but you may have a detox reaction so watch for some issues that we may be able to help you with. Don't give up. Many (like myself) have gone through the healing crisis but knowing the light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train will help you.

7. Get on a very good probiotic. I take UDO's Choice but have taken Metagenics. The product should be stored in the refrigerator section of your healthfood store and should contain a large number and variety of micro organisms. You will need to take this away from food and in the morning and evening. That gut is more than likely "leaky" and allowing proteins to leak through that your body is attacking. You can google Leaky Gut and see how this has mood issues.

8. Consider going gluten and dairy free. It has helped me and my children with our overall moods. If your gut is leaking then these are the substances that will aggravate you.

9. Check your sex hormones - balancing is key here - DHEA, Pregnenolone, Testosterone, Estridiol, Progesterone.

I will highly recommend the Gut and Psychology Syndrome from Dr. Natasha McBride which will help you understand why all the gut healing is important. I heard her speak for a day at a conference last year. It was incredible how much our gut controls our brain.

Natural things that help with anxiety -

Ashwaganda

Rhodioloa

Licorice Root (can be problematic for some in increasing blood pressure)

L-Theanine (very calming and from green tea)

Herbs to help the liver

Milk Thistle

Dandelion Root Extract

Adding lemon to water will help your liver too.

So that is where I would start on your road to true healing.

SSRI's and iodine

Hi There,I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while I wait.My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in it.I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssriThank you,Gigi

[Guest guest]

I would add that getting your adrenals

tested, via saliva, would also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking

cortisol, but you may need to adjust your dose. There is a group that does

some test interpetation pretty well, even while on cortisol. HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:25

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: SSRI's and

iodine

Ok,

here is what you should look into if you are interested in avoiding an

SSRI> It will not be a quick fix but it will not add to the issues you

are having as it will with an SSRI.

First,

the Cipro you were on is a fluoride based product. This is bad in many

ways - as you found out now having tendon issues. The fluoride blocks

thyroid hormones by blocking iodine absorption and utilization by the

body. In doing this you were not getting the hormones you needed to

increase your body's metabolic rate to function. Thank God he created us

with a back up plan. These are the adrenals. When the thyroid lets

us down the adrenals pick up the slack. This can only happen for a short

period of time as they are the sprinters - not the marathon runners. We

were designed to use them in fight or flight situations when you need

adrenaline. But when we produce this for a long period of time we fall

into adrenal fatigue which results in high cortisol levels. This cause

the weight gain and mood changes along with sleep disruptions. Our sex

hormones go in the tank because the adrenals don't multi task well and you need

the energy so they just slack off on the sex hormones and then we hit a

wall. Because those are needed too.

Second,

being on Cipro, it is a toxic drug. This has more than likely caused your

liver to be overloaded. When your liver is toxic your body is toxic and

this creates issues with mood disorders.

Third,

the gut. Drugs destroy healthy gut bacteria and most of us do not take enough

probiotics. Cipro being a broad spectrum antibiotic wipes out all of

it. Good and bad. Did your doctor put you on a high dose probiotic

when you were on this antibiotic? My guess is no. Did you or do you

suffer from yeast infections or athletes foot? I am betting you have a

raging case of candida and this can also alter moods.

So if

I were in your shoes, I would do the following. You are not suffering

from a SSRI deficiency. No need to throw a blanket over your

issues which is what this will do.

1.

Check Vit D levels - 25 OH levels Should be between 60 -70

2.

Get in the sun for 20 mins each day. That will help with Vit D, Seretonin

and Melatonin balancing.

3.

Clean up your diet (if you haven't already). No whites - sugars, breads,

crackers, cookies. It's all junk and stresses your immune system and

adrenals. No artificial sweeteners either. Get rid of HFCS - it's

in everything. Eat good grass fed meats, fruits and veggies.

4.

Detox your liver!! You may want to investigate a good program that will

clean it up after all the junk it has had to deal with. I did a 28 day

protocol with Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus (www.organicpharmacy.com - book

and 3 cans of product is what you need and is about $210). It is pricey

but it took care of my anxiety and depression in the 4 weeks.

5.

Take in adequate Vit C (3,000 - 5,000 mgs) and Celtic Salt to help the

adrenals. They are the largest storage of Vit C in the body.

6.

Get your iodine - 50 mgs is the minimum I would say with all the fluoride you

got from Cipro but you may have a detox reaction so watch for some issues that

we may be able to help you with. Don't give up. Many (like myself)

have gone through the healing crisis but knowing the light at the end of the

tunnel is not an oncoming train will help you.

7.

Get on a very good probiotic. I take UDO's Choice but have taken

Metagenics. The product should be stored in the refrigerator section of

your healthfood store and should contain a large number and variety of micro

organisms. You will need to take this away from food and in the morning

and evening. That gut is more than likely " leaky " and allowing

proteins to leak through that your body is attacking. You can google

Leaky Gut and see how this has mood issues.

8.

Consider going gluten and dairy free. It has helped me and my children

with our overall moods. If your gut is leaking then these are the

substances that will aggravate you.

9.

Check your sex hormones - balancing is key here - DHEA, Pregnenolone,

Testosterone, Estridiol, Progesterone.

I

will highly recommend the Gut and Psychology Syndrome from Dr. Natasha McBride

which will help you understand why all the gut healing is important. I

heard her speak for a day at a conference last year. It was incredible

how much our gut controls our brain.

Natural

things that help with anxiety -

Ashwaganda

Rhodioloa

Licorice

Root (can be problematic for some in increasing blood pressure)

L-Theanine

(very calming and from green tea)

Herbs

to help the liver

Milk

Thistle

Dandelion

Root Extract

Adding

lemon to water will help your liver too.

So

that is where I would start on your road to true healing.

SSRI's

and iodine

Hi There,

I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently trying

to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after that

but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while I

wait.

My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to

hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in

it.

I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

Thank you,

Gigi

[Guest guest]

Below are some natural ways to relieve

depression/anxiety:

Lithium Orotate – natural form of lithium salts. We use LO with great success for

depression, anxiety, bi-polar, ADD, ADHD, etc. Many people use it to get off of

anti-depressants. This is NOT

synthetic lithium.

B-Complex with added B6 and B12 (Methylcobalamin)

Herbal Liver Support

Good Fats – most people are deficient in this area. Healthy oils: olive oil, hemp seed oil,

flax seed oil; nuts: almonds, pumpkin seeds; avocado; organic almond butter;

dark chocolate. Stay away from

hydrogenated oils – read labels.

Saliva test hormone levels.

Bio-identical progesterone cream can help with depression, anxiety,

adrenal stress and mood swings.

Vitamin C – Dosage varies to bowel tolerance. Will help with adrenal stress.

Aromatherapy – a small bottle of Lavender Essential Oil is great to carry

around. Put a drop or two in the

palm of your hands, rub together and then cup over the nose and breathe deeply

several times. It’s amazing

how calming this can be. Can also

place rub a drop on the back of the neck.

Eat a healthy diet. Lots of organic

vegetables and fruits.

Eliminate white sugar. Sugar is

implicated in mood swings and depression and can cause zinc deficiency. Are you getting enough zinc.

Try to get 20-30 minutes of unprotected sun every day. Check Vitamin D-3

levels. Many people are deficient

in Vitamin D and studies indicate that it definitely plays a role in mental

health. http://www.cpnhelp.org/vitamin_d3_and_mental_hea

Be Well

Dr.L

[Guest guest]

Here's one way of trying to find a depression support group in your area.

http://depression.meetup.com/

Diane

[Guest guest]

> I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via saliva, would

> also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but

> you may need to adjust your dose.

You can't test saliva cortisols accurately while on HC. You have to taper off

and be off it for 2 wks.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

I have fought severe depression and anxiety for forty years. It's put me in the hospital many times and onto disability as well. I used SRRIs when they first came out in the late eighties and only stopped about a year ago, when I found out that they are almost all flouride compounds and I had begun iodine supplementation and had started to realize that it was probable that the root cause of my troubles was mercury and other heavy metals. I had all my mercury fillings out and have been chelating very aggressively with DMSA and ALA, as well as sweating a lot of it out with saunas. I am currently on social security disability for treatment-resistant major depression, fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue syndrome. I still have a lot of chelating to do, but I am just about well enough that I could work full time.What allowed me to work for twenty years was

exercise and lots of sunshine, as well as a lot of vitamins and supplements. In the winter I used extremely bright lights in the morning and into the evening to fight off the Seasonal Affective Disorder. I exercised just about every day or the anxiety and depression would become unbearable. Instead of slowing the reuptake of serotonin to leave it in the synapse longer, you can go the other route and feed your brain the precursors to serotonin. I use 5HTP. I used to use tryptophan years ago before it was taken off the market. I see it is for sale again, but tryptophan is needed by viruses to replicate and I seem to have a dormant virus causing the chronic fatigue that gets activated by it (but not by the 5HTP). The SRRIs are not effective in the long run anyway. The brain adjusts itself after a few years and then you have to jump from one class of antidepressants to another, each working for a limited period of time.SAMe is another

natural antidepressant, but causes too much anxiety for some (it's hard on the digestive track as well). A good stategy to use is to get lots of exercise, sunshine, and the natural precursors to the neurotransmitters you want to enhance. Then you can use the smallest amount of SRRI that you need to keep the mental demons at bay, while you experiment with other nutritional strategies in an attempt to get the whole body functioning properly. I also try to limit the electromagnetic radiation I'm exposed to, but nowadays you just about have to leave the planet to get anything like the natural background radiation that the earth generates as it spins around it's iron core. Very important also: take your armpit temperature first thing in the morning, chart it for a month or so, then find a doctor who will prescribe thyroid medication for you (hopefully Armour) if your temperature is too low. My temperature used to be as much as two degrees too

low, ice cold hands in the summer, but my traditional thyroid tests never indicated anything abnormal. MarkP.S. Roy Masters-style meditation has connected me to God, or the light within, and without that I'd never have found my way out of the woods."Forgiveness stops the wheel of Karma"

> Hi There,

>

> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> better in general after that but really need something to help me over

> this depression and anxiety while I wait.

>

> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> fluorine it has in it.

>

> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

>

>

> Thank you,

>

> Gigi

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, that is what I and most others

think, but apparently you can according to this one group. I guess there is a

way around it or something? It seems silly to not be able to test cortisol while

on cortisol when you can test thyroid while on thyroid. But, it’s not my

idea anyway, it’s just something I found on another group. Haven’t

done it myself to try, but several people have on the other group. Just

providing info, not trying to argue.

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of dorothyroeder

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:19

PM

iodine

Subject: Re: SSRI's and

iodine

> I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via saliva, would

> also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but

> you may need to adjust your dose.

You can't test saliva cortisols accurately while on HC. You have to taper off

and be off it for 2 wks.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

maybe it would be best to simply stay on HC and not test. what would be

the point?

gracia

dorothyroeder wrote:

>

>

>

> > I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via saliva, would

> > also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but

> > you may need to adjust your dose.

>

> You can't test saliva cortisols accurately while on HC. You have to

> taper off and be off it for 2 wks.

>

> Dorothy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was thinking the same thing. We already know she is in crisis from the symptoms. I think it would be a waste of money to test until you are further on down the road and fine tuning.

Steph

Re: Re: SSRI's and iodine

maybe it would be best to simply stay on HC and not test. what would be the point?graciadorothyroeder wrote:> >>> > I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via saliva, would> > also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but> > you may need to adjust your dose.>> You can't test saliva cortisols accurately while on HC. You have to > taper off and be off it for 2 wks.>> Dorothy>>

[Guest guest]

Mark

lots of ppl are told for years that there is " nothing wrong " and tests

are " normal " . I was told this for 30 years after a partial

thyroidectomy and I was obviously thyroid sick. I find it

interesting that taking enough iodine will raise TSH. for the

conditions you have I think the big guns are cortef, enough iodine and

Armour.

gracia

mark abbott wrote:

>

>

> I have fought severe depression and anxiety for forty years. It's put

> me in the hospital many times and onto disability as well. I used

> SRRIs when they first came out in the late eighties and only stopped

> about a year ago, when I found out that they are almost all flouride

> compounds and I had begun iodine supplementation and had started to

> realize that it was probable that the root cause of my troubles was

> mercury and other heavy metals. I had all my mercury fillings out and

> have been chelating very aggressively with DMSA and ALA, as well as

> sweating a lot of it out with saunas. I am currently on social

> security disability for treatment-resistant major depression,

> fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue syndrome. I still have a lot of

> chelating to do, but I am just about well enough that I could work

> full time.

>

> What allowed me to work for twenty years was exercise and lots of

> sunshine, as well as a lot of vitamins and supplements. In the winter

> I used extremely bright lights in the morning and into the evening to

> fight off the Seasonal Affective Disorder. I exercised just about

> every day or the anxiety and depression would become unbearable.

>

> Instead of slowing the reuptake of serotonin to leave it in the

> synapse longer, you can go the other route and feed your brain the

> precursors to serotonin. I use 5HTP. I used to use tryptophan years

> ago before it was taken off the market. I see it is for sale again,

> but tryptophan is needed by viruses to replicate and I seem to have a

> dormant virus causing the chronic fatigue that gets activated by it

> (but not by the 5HTP). The SRRIs are not effective in the long run

> anyway. The brain adjusts itself after a few years and then you have

> to jump from one class of antidepressants to another, each working for

> a limited period of time.

>

> SAMe is another natural antidepressant, but causes too much anxiety

> for some (it's hard on the digestive track as well).

>

> A good stategy to use is to get lots of exercise, sunshine, and the

> natural precursors to the neurotransmitters you want to enhance. Then

> you can use the smallest amount of SRRI that you need to keep the

> mental demons at bay, while you experiment with other nutritional

> strategies in an attempt to get the whole body functioning properly. I

> also try to limit the electromagnetic radiation I'm exposed to, but

> nowadays you just about have to leave the planet to get anything like

> the natural background radiation that the earth generates as it spins

> around it's iron core.

>

> Very important also: take your armpit temperature first thing in the

> morning, chart it for a month or so, then find a doctor who will

> prescribe thyroid medication for you (hopefully Armour) if your

> temperature is too low. My temperature used to be as much as two

> degrees too low, ice cold hands in the summer, but my traditional

> thyroid tests never indicated anything abnormal.

>

> Mark

>

> P.S. Roy Masters-style meditation has connected me to God, or the

> light within, and without that I'd never have found my way out of the

> woods.

>

> " Forgiveness stops the wheel of Karma "

>

>

>

> > Hi There,

> >

> > I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am

> > currently trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel

> > better in general after that but really need something to help

> me over

> > this depression and anxiety while I wait.

> >

> > My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't

> > want to hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the

> > fluorine it has in it.

> >

> > I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

> >

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Gigi

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you,

I am taking vitamin D3, magnesium and B6 plus bilingual B12 due to low levels if

not supplemented.

I was taking 5 HTP for a short time but stopped because I started zoloft.

I use bioidentical biest, proges and testost. My latest labs showed my

estradiol was way too high (been on the same dose for a long time but went high

for some reason) and progesterone probably too low. Free Testost in middle of

range while total testost slightly over range.

TAke hydorcortisone and cytomel right now. ....trying to clear reverse T3.

I am very anxiety ridden today. I've been told that when starting an ssri that

symptoms can get worse for a short time before they improve.

Thanks,

Gigi

>

> Below are some natural ways to relieve depression/anxiety:

>

> Lithium Orotate - natural form of lithium salts. We use LO with great

> success for depression, anxiety, bi-polar, ADD, ADHD, etc. Many people use

> it to get off of anti-depressants. This is NOT synthetic lithium.

>

> B-Complex with added B6 and B12 (Methylcobalamin)

>

> Herbal Liver Support

>

> Good Fats - most people are deficient in this area. Healthy oils: olive

> oil, hemp seed oil, flax seed oil; nuts: almonds, pumpkin seeds; avocado;

> organic almond butter; dark chocolate. Stay away from hydrogenated oils -

> read labels.

>

> Saliva test hormone levels. Bio-identical progesterone cream can help with

> depression, anxiety, adrenal stress and mood swings.

>

> Vitamin C - Dosage varies to bowel tolerance. Will help with adrenal

> stress.

>

> Aromatherapy - a small bottle of Lavender Essential Oil is great to carry

> around. Put a drop or two in the palm of your hands, rub together and then

> cup over the nose and breathe deeply several times. It's amazing how

> calming this can be. Can also place rub a drop on the back of the neck.

>

> Eat a healthy diet. Lots of organic vegetables and fruits.

>

> Eliminate white sugar. Sugar is implicated in mood swings and depression

> and can cause zinc deficiency. Are you getting enough zinc.

>

> Try to get 20-30 minutes of unprotected sun every day. Check Vitamin D-3

> levels. Many people are deficient in Vitamin D and studies indicate that it

> definitely plays a role in mental health.

> http://www.cpnhelp.org/vitamin_d3_and_mental_hea

>

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

[Guest guest]

> I am taking vitamin D3, magnesium and B6 plus bilingual B12 due to low levels

if not supplemented.

Is ferritin OK? Sorry, I don't remember.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Thank you,

I do a bunch of that already. I eat low carb because the avelox messed with my

blood glucose regulation and it was getting high. It's within good range now

without any diabetes meds.

I take viatmin D, just started C again (I have slightly high ferritin levels and

vit. C doesn't help that issue), probiotics for years and digestive enzymes,

magnesium, milk thistly and did take Sam-e but it started to make the anxiety

worse so stopped that.

I also tried ashwagandha for a short period before this too.

Just had sex hormones tested and estradiol was high at 325 that's very high for

me and progesterone was 2.6. Had a hyster so i take bio identical hormones

continuously.

I don't know what is safe to take with the ssri in the way of supplements. I

know 5 htp is contraindicated due to possibility of serotonin syndrome.

I feel like I'm in between a rock and a hard spot.

Thanks so much,

Gigi

>

> Ok, here is what you should look into if you are interested in avoiding an

SSRI> It will not be a quick fix but it will not add to the issues you are

having as it will with an SSRI.

>

> First, the Cipro you were on is a fluoride based product. This is bad in many

ways - as you found out now having tendon issues. The fluoride blocks thyroid

hormones by blocking iodine absorption and utilization by the body. In doing

this you were not getting the hormones you needed to increase your body's

metabolic rate to function. Thank God he created us with a back up plan. These

are the adrenals. When the thyroid lets us down the adrenals pick up the slack.

This can only happen for a short period of time as they are the sprinters - not

the marathon runners. We were designed to use them in fight or flight

situations when you need adrenaline. But when we produce this for a long period

of time we fall into adrenal fatigue which results in high cortisol levels.

This cause the weight gain and mood changes along with sleep disruptions. Our

sex hormones go in the tank because the adrenals don't multi task well and you

need the energy so they just slack off on the sex hormones and then we hit a

wall. Because those are needed too.

>

> Second, being on Cipro, it is a toxic drug. This has more than likely caused

your liver to be overloaded. When your liver is toxic your body is toxic and

this creates issues with mood disorders.

>

> Third, the gut. Drugs destroy healthy gut bacteria and most of us do not take

enough probiotics. Cipro being a broad spectrum antibiotic wipes out all of it.

Good and bad. Did your doctor put you on a high dose probiotic when you were on

this antibiotic? My guess is no. Did you or do you suffer from yeast

infections or athletes foot? I am betting you have a raging case of candida and

this can also alter moods.

>

> So if I were in your shoes, I would do the following. You are not suffering

from a SSRI deficiency. No need to throw a blanket over your issues which is

what this will do.

>

> 1. Check Vit D levels - 25 OH levels Should be between 60 -70

> 2. Get in the sun for 20 mins each day. That will help with Vit D, Seretonin

and Melatonin balancing.

> 3. Clean up your diet (if you haven't already). No whites - sugars, breads,

crackers, cookies. It's all junk and stresses your immune system and adrenals.

No artificial sweeteners either. Get rid of HFCS - it's in everything. Eat

good grass fed meats, fruits and veggies.

> 4. Detox your liver!! You may want to investigate a good program that will

clean it up after all the junk it has had to deal with. I did a 28 day protocol

with Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus (www.organicpharmacy.com - book and 3 cans of

product is what you need and is about $210). It is pricey but it took care of

my anxiety and depression in the 4 weeks.

> 5. Take in adequate Vit C (3,000 - 5,000 mgs) and Celtic Salt to help the

adrenals. They are the largest storage of Vit C in the body.

> 6. Get your iodine - 50 mgs is the minimum I would say with all the fluoride

you got from Cipro but you may have a detox reaction so watch for some issues

that we may be able to help you with. Don't give up. Many (like myself) have

gone through the healing crisis but knowing the light at the end of the tunnel

is not an oncoming train will help you.

> 7. Get on a very good probiotic. I take UDO's Choice but have taken

Metagenics. The product should be stored in the refrigerator section of your

healthfood store and should contain a large number and variety of micro

organisms. You will need to take this away from food and in the morning and

evening. That gut is more than likely " leaky " and allowing proteins to leak

through that your body is attacking. You can google Leaky Gut and see how this

has mood issues.

> 8. Consider going gluten and dairy free. It has helped me and my children

with our overall moods. If your gut is leaking then these are the substances

that will aggravate you.

> 9. Check your sex hormones - balancing is key here - DHEA, Pregnenolone,

Testosterone, Estridiol, Progesterone.

>

> I will highly recommend the Gut and Psychology Syndrome from Dr. Natasha

McBride which will help you understand why all the gut healing is important. I

heard her speak for a day at a conference last year. It was incredible how much

our gut controls our brain.

>

> Natural things that help with anxiety -

>

> Ashwaganda

> Rhodioloa

> Licorice Root (can be problematic for some in increasing blood pressure)

> L-Theanine (very calming and from green tea)

>

> Herbs to help the liver

>

> Milk Thistle

> Dandelion Root Extract

>

> Adding lemon to water will help your liver too.

>

>

> So that is where I would start on your road to true healing.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SSRI's and iodine

>

>

> Hi There,

>

> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently

trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general after

that but really need something to help me over this depression and anxiety while

I wait.

>

> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to

hinder my progress with the ssri but am also afraid of the fluorine it has in

it.

>

> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

>

> Thank you,

>

> Gigi

>

[Guest guest]

ZRT recommends the following:

Hormone Users Special Instructions

You do NOT need to stop current hormone therapy before testing

Night

Before Collection

Testing is recommended to monitor hormone levels with

supplementation. (You need to be on hormone therapy at least two weeks prior to

collection.)

To

avoid contaminating sample* use clean pillowcases, towels, etc.

Topical

hormones users - rub in without using fingers (e.g. wrist to wrist as shown)

for at least two days prior to collection.

Skip

use of anti-aging creams that may contain hormone traces.

*Contamination

of sample occurs when topical hormones enter saliva or tube during collection.

This can happen when hormone traces present on skin or surfaces (e.g. linens,

towels, doorknobs) touch lips, face, or tube during collection.

Hormone Users Collection Chart

Patches – Weekly/Bi-Weekly: At

midpoint between applying patches; Daily: 12-24 hours AFTER applying patch

Injections

- At midpoint between injections

7-Keto

DHEA - 3-5 days after last dose

(not

standard DHEA)

Pills,

Gels, Creams Sprays (Oral, Topical, Vaginal) - 12-24 hours AFTER last dose

((FOR TOPICAL: last application should not be applied to face or neck)

Sublinguals

and Troches - 36 hours AFTER last dose

(Dissolve

under tongue)

THE FOLLOWING ALSO QUALIFY AS HORMONES (not

limited to): Contraceptives, melatonin, cortisol, hydrocortisone, creams

containing pregnenolone and/or placental derivatives. Collect as above.

-----Original Message-----

> I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via

saliva, would

> also be a good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but

> you may need to adjust your dose.

You can't test saliva cortisols accurately while on HC.

You have to taper off and be off it for 2 wks.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Per Val, on the adrenal/natural thyroid forum.......she thinks I might need a

bit more HC.

I graphed my temps for the past week adn they are slightly unstable...not too

bad. I went on all T3 cytomel about a week or so ago to clear the reverse T3

out.

I've done saliva testing in the past but not recently.

I did get a blood cortisol done about 2 weeks ago but they ran the total

cortisol and not the freee cortisol like they were supposed to. The total

cortisol was at the top of the range befor my AM meds.

My BP and pulse however are very low which leads me to believe that I'm not on

too much HC as I would think my BP would be high then.

Thanks,

Gigi

>

> I would add that getting your adrenals tested, via saliva, would also be a

> good thing to do. I know you are taking cortisol, but you may need to

> adjust your dose. There is a group that does some test interpetation pretty

> well, even while on cortisol.

> HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> ladybugsandbees

> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:25 AM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: SSRI's and iodine

>

>

>

>

>

> Ok, here is what you should look into if you are interested in avoiding an

> SSRI> It will not be a quick fix but it will not add to the issues you are

> having as it will with an SSRI.

>

>

>

> First, the Cipro you were on is a fluoride based product. This is bad in

> many ways - as you found out now having tendon issues. The fluoride blocks

> thyroid hormones by blocking iodine absorption and utilization by the body.

> In doing this you were not getting the hormones you needed to increase your

> body's metabolic rate to function. Thank God he created us with a back up

> plan. These are the adrenals. When the thyroid lets us down the adrenals

> pick up the slack. This can only happen for a short period of time as they

> are the sprinters - not the marathon runners. We were designed to use them

> in fight or flight situations when you need adrenaline. But when we produce

> this for a long period of time we fall into adrenal fatigue which results in

> high cortisol levels. This cause the weight gain and mood changes along

> with sleep disruptions. Our sex hormones go in the tank because the

> adrenals don't multi task well and you need the energy so they just slack

> off on the sex hormones and then we hit a wall. Because those are needed

> too.

>

>

>

> Second, being on Cipro, it is a toxic drug. This has more than likely

> caused your liver to be overloaded. When your liver is toxic your body is

> toxic and this creates issues with mood disorders.

>

>

>

> Third, the gut. Drugs destroy healthy gut bacteria and most of us do not

> take enough probiotics. Cipro being a broad spectrum antibiotic wipes out

> all of it. Good and bad. Did your doctor put you on a high dose probiotic

> when you were on this antibiotic? My guess is no. Did you or do you suffer

> from yeast infections or athletes foot? I am betting you have a raging case

> of candida and this can also alter moods.

>

>

>

> So if I were in your shoes, I would do the following. You are not suffering

> from a SSRI deficiency. No need to throw a blanket over your issues which

> is what this will do.

>

>

>

> 1. Check Vit D levels - 25 OH levels Should be between 60 -70

>

> 2. Get in the sun for 20 mins each day. That will help with Vit D,

> Seretonin and Melatonin balancing.

>

> 3. Clean up your diet (if you haven't already). No whites - sugars,

> breads, crackers, cookies. It's all junk and stresses your immune system

> and adrenals. No artificial sweeteners either. Get rid of HFCS - it's in

> everything. Eat good grass fed meats, fruits and veggies.

>

> 4. Detox your liver!! You may want to investigate a good program that will

> clean it up after all the junk it has had to deal with. I did a 28 day

> protocol with Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus (www.organicpharmacy

> <http://www.organicpharmacy.com> .com - book and 3 cans of product is what

> you need and is about $210). It is pricey but it took care of my anxiety

> and depression in the 4 weeks.

>

> 5. Take in adequate Vit C (3,000 - 5,000 mgs) and Celtic Salt to help the

> adrenals. They are the largest storage of Vit C in the body.

>

> 6. Get your iodine - 50 mgs is the minimum I would say with all the

> fluoride you got from Cipro but you may have a detox reaction so watch for

> some issues that we may be able to help you with. Don't give up. Many

> (like myself) have gone through the healing crisis but knowing the light at

> the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train will help you.

>

> 7. Get on a very good probiotic. I take UDO's Choice but have taken

> Metagenics. The product should be stored in the refrigerator section of

> your healthfood store and should contain a large number and variety of micro

> organisms. You will need to take this away from food and in the morning and

> evening. That gut is more than likely " leaky " and allowing proteins to leak

> through that your body is attacking. You can google Leaky Gut and see how

> this has mood issues.

>

> 8. Consider going gluten and dairy free. It has helped me and my children

> with our overall moods. If your gut is leaking then these are the

> substances that will aggravate you.

>

> 9. Check your sex hormones - balancing is key here - DHEA, Pregnenolone,

> Testosterone, Estridiol, Progesterone.

>

>

>

> I will highly recommend the Gut and Psychology Syndrome from Dr. Natasha

> McBride which will help you understand why all the gut healing is important.

> I heard her speak for a day at a conference last year. It was incredible

> how much our gut controls our brain.

>

>

>

> Natural things that help with anxiety -

>

>

>

> Ashwaganda

>

> Rhodioloa

>

> Licorice Root (can be problematic for some in increasing blood pressure)

>

> L-Theanine (very calming and from green tea)

>

>

>

> Herbs to help the liver

>

>

>

> Milk Thistle

>

> Dandelion Root Extract

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> Hi There,

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> I have just started an SSRI for anxiety and depression. I am currently

> trying to get my reverse T3 cleared and hope I will feel better in general

> after that but really need something to help me over this depression and

> anxiety while I wait.

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> My question is......is it safe to take iodoral with zoloft? I don't want to

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> I really don't have a choice right now but to take the ssri

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> Thank you,

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> Gigi

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