Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hi Mark - Welcome to our group! I'm really sorry that you are in pain, and not able to sleep properly. The most important thing is to get some relief from your symptoms. So that you can get some much needed rest. You may have to book in to see a rheumatologist, too. We all soooo understand what you are going through. You can go to Dominie's Newsletter at WWW.FMS-HELP.COM and do a search there on subjects like insomnia, pain management, medications etc. I have included some useful links, below, to help get you started. I hope you get better very soon. Hugs 'n Smiles, Carlene. http://www.fms-help.com/sleep.htm See Dominie's Insomnia Story www.fms-help.com/insomnia.htm Return to Dominie's FMS/CFIDS Home Page > > From: mesissy711aol (DOT) com mesissy711aol (DOT) com>> Subject: [HeidiLiane] QUESTION PLEASE> HeidiLiane@gro ups.com> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:25 PM> > > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to all. I have a question, please. Anyone ever heard that taking pain meds for fibro will actually cause the pain meds to fuel the fibro? Thanks cheryl> > > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! > > > > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just another suggestion here: Maybe, just maybe, the surgery--which is an invasive technique--disturbed the muscles, fascia and connective tissues which is not only possible however probable. When you cut tissues during surgery, adhesions and tight tissues and constricting will occur. Think about it--when it does occur, it will tighten up one side of the body in that area and then ultimately tighten up and cause constriction in other parts of the body on the side of the surgery. Then the other side begins to compensate for this and there you go. This happened to me when I had surgery at age 17 for a hernia. My symptoms I had before the surgery got much worse. It was only until 10 years at age 40 that a physical therapist who understood this and did myofascial release, found the constricted tissues around the hernia scar--just because it heals doesn't mean that it heals in a balanced way and the tissues relax--and released the fascia that the muscles and tissues could then relax and balance out. Just a thought!!!! > > > From: mesissy711aol (DOT) com <mesissy711aol (DOT) com> > Subject: [HeidiLiane] QUESTION PLEASE > HeidiLiane@gro ups.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:25 PM > > > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to all.?? I have a question, please.???Anyone ever heard that taking pain meds for fibro will actually cause the pain meds to fuel the fibro??? Thanks??? cheryl > > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 What you have to say certainly makes a lot of sense. It was very fortunate that you found an enlightened physical therapist. Glad you eventually found relief. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Hugs 'n Smiles Carlene >> Just another suggestion here: Maybe, just maybe, the surgery--which> is an invasive technique--disturbed the muscles, fascia and connective> tissues which is not only possible however probable. When you cut> tissues during surgery, adhesions and tight tissues and constricting> will occur. Think about it--when it does occur, it will tighten up> one side of the body in that area and then ultimately tighten up and> cause constriction in other parts of the body on the side of the> surgery. Then the other side begins to compensate for this and there> you go. This happened to me when I had surgery at age 17 for a> hernia. My symptoms I had before the surgery got much worse. It was> only until 10 years at age 40 that a physical therapist who understood> this and did myofascial release, found the constricted tissues around> the hernia scar--just because it heals doesn't mean that it heals in a> balanced way and the tissues relax--and released the fascia that the> muscles and tissues could then relax and balance out. Just a> thought!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 -Whenever you cut, you change structure, because you disrupt and disturb the natural order of tissues. The fascia around the muscle then gets constricted and tightens and then everything tightens and so on and so on and so on. And then the other side begins to react to this imbalance and try to compensate and there starts the pain syndrome. It just goes on and on until someone comes along and notices the imbalanced tissues and rebalances it. Simple however noone ever looks at finding out where the imbalance originated from. All they think of are drugs, medications and surgery to remedy symptoms. I always like to look at the cause of the origination of symptoms. Let's get to the cause of the issue and not try to just cover it up with drugs. Just my thoughts!!! Geoff -- In HeidiLiane , " carlene.grimshaw " <carlene.grimshaw@...> wrote: > > > What you have to say certainly makes a lot of sense. It was very > fortunate that you found an enlightened physical therapist. Glad you > eventually found relief. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Hugs 'n > Smiles Carlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just another suggestion here: Maybe, just maybe, the surgery--which > > is an invasive technique--disturbed the muscles, fascia and connective > > tissues which is not only possible however probable. When you cut > > tissues during surgery, adhesions and tight tissues and constricting > > will occur. Think about it--when it does occur, it will tighten up > > one side of the body in that area and then ultimately tighten up and > > cause constriction in other parts of the body on the side of the > > surgery. Then the other side begins to compensate for this and there > > you go. This happened to me when I had surgery at age 17 for a > > hernia. My symptoms I had before the surgery got much worse. It was > > only until 10 years at age 40 that a physical therapist who understood > > this and did myofascial release, found the constricted tissues around > > the hernia scar--just because it heals doesn't mean that it heals in a > > balanced way and the tissues relax--and released the fascia that the > > muscles and tissues could then relax and balance out. Just a > > thought!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 It can be healed immediately or ASAP after surgery if doctors understood that after altering one's structure through cutting and disturbing the tissues and energetic field of a person, all they need to do is myofascial release on the area so that the tissues will become elastic again and refrain from constricting and not form adhesions--then you would be fine. How many doctors do this though? I'm willing to bet zero. Structure alteration then affects function. And the syndrome gets worse or begins. Years ago, a woman I met who had fibro and was working full time and doing just marvelous, told me how she conquered it, healed it and came into balance with it. She never said cured it and when asked, she said, that as long as she stays in balance and gets back into balance pretty soon after falling out of it, she is fine and is living as normal life as possible. She said she had to learn her life lessons and the fibro was the way for her to learn these lessons. She was a very smart being and set me on the path of learning what my fibro was all about. There is meaning in this syndrome. Hard to see that through all the pain, however I have seen what she meant first hand and have come to bless this syndrome as it actually is keeping me healthy. Without it, I would be on the path to self destruction, on a SAD diet, in a job I hated, and treating people callously and without love. STrange how something so wonderful could come out of such pain and hardship. STrange but true. Geoff > > > > > > Just another suggestion here: Maybe, just maybe, the surgery--which > > > is an invasive technique--disturbed the muscles, fascia and connective > > > tissues which is not only possible however probable. When you cut > > > tissues during surgery, adhesions and tight tissues and constricting > > > will occur. Think about it--when it does occur, it will tighten up > > > one side of the body in that area and then ultimately tighten up and > > > cause constriction in other parts of the body on the side of the > > > surgery. Then the other side begins to compensate for this and there > > > you go. This happened to me when I had surgery at age 17 for a > > > hernia. My symptoms I had before the surgery got much worse. It was > > > only until 10 years at age 40 that a physical therapist who understood > > > this and did myofascial release, found the constricted tissues around > > > the hernia scar--just because it heals doesn't mean that it heals in a > > > balanced way and the tissues relax--and released the fascia that the > > > muscles and tissues could then relax and balance out. Just a > > > thought!!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Well thank you for those kind words. Let me not make light though of how hard the process can be. I remember the pain that everyone here talks about as being unbearable and so overwhelming that thinking positively and looking for lessons wasn't the most foremost thing on my mind at times. And being pleasant and positive when others were trying to help me by being themselves and doing ordinary things(that I couldn't do) is not the easiest thing to do when one is in pain throughout the body. I know, I've been there and done that. And finding ones way through this syndrome and out the other side is quite challenging. However as one who has gone through this process by just listening and being led by the universe(all the answers do come my friends if you just stay aware of what you are being told to do)and is about 85% through with major reductions in pain and symptoms--I will say that I can now see the positivity and blessings in everything that comes my way. My gratitude levels are high all the time. The Universe is set up for us to heal. Take my case. Out of work since 1991--denied social security disability twice back then because noone even knew what fibro was let alone get a diagnosis--no medical insurance, etc, etc, etc. Anyway, long story short--everything I needed came to me through low cost programs, doctors, pracitioners, and even free workshops, acupuncturists, dentists, etc. It was amazing to watch and see it unfold. This showed me that there is a unseen force out there and really strengthened my connection to spirit and the universal forces. It led me to go back to school in 2003-2004 and become a certified holistic health counselor and nutritional counselor and start a new career--doing something I love and am great at. And being an empath and intuitive medical consultant, I can feel others pain in my body and then help them figure out what to do to heal. It's an amazing turnaround from a person who years ago was totally disabled, lost in isolation in my apartment, devoid of friends who had abandoned me--can't blame them, I was never around for anyone--and not bringing in any money at all. There is a purpose here, guys. Just know that. YOu can check out my website if desired( no pressure or sales here) at www.healingbuddy.com to see more of what I do--even though what is listed is only some of what I really do. Love, light and healing to you all. Geoff Geoff > > Geoff, that is very profound. You have suggested a whole new way to look at this, turning it into a blessing instead of a curse. This is like an Oprah ah-HA moment for me. Thank you so much for your insight. > > Pam > > > [HeidiLiane] Re: QUESTION PLEASE(pain meds fuel fibro) > > > > It can be healed immediately or ASAP after surgery if doctors > > understood that after altering one's structure through cutting and > > disturbing the tissues and energetic field of a person, all they need > > to do is myofascial release on the area so that the tissues will > > become elastic again and refrain from constricting and not form > > adhesions--then you would be fine. How many doctors do this though? > > I'm willing to bet zero. Structure alteration then affects function. > > And the syndrome gets worse or begins. > > > > Years ago, a woman I met who had fibro and was working full time and > > doing just marvelous, told me how she conquered it, healed it and came > > into balance with it. She never said cured it and when asked, she > > said, that as long as she stays in balance and gets back into balance > > pretty soon after falling out of it, she is fine and is living as > > normal life as possible. She said she had to learn her life lessons > > and the fibro was the way for her to learn these lessons. She was a > > very smart being and set me on the path of learning what my fibro was > > all about. There is meaning in this syndrome. Hard to see that > > through all the pain, however I have seen what she meant first hand > > and have come to bless this syndrome as it actually is keeping me > > healthy. Without it, I would be on the path to self destruction, on a > > SAD diet, in a job I hated, and treating people callously and without > > love. STrange how something so wonderful could come out of such pain > > and hardship. STrange but true. > > > > Geoff > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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