Re: Clare

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Hi Clare, I don't remember seeing your intro post or remember welcoming you, (Memory is terrible !!!) so Welcome to the list !!! I'm Helen from Ohio, have several illnesses...How are you??? Write when you can!!!

{{{ Welcoming Hugs }}}

Helen

HiThanks for the kind words Barbara,Marsha and .Marsha , any words of wisdom on coping with the coments, stare's and rudness you get from people you don't even know , who all seam to have an opp on your child?SANDRA i would like to know if you had TM then went on to get MS?It's a real worry to me that Freya could go on to get MS in later life.Again thanks for making me feel welcome,Clare

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Aww, I'm sorry for all the bad things that you have to hear about your precious Daughter...People can be so cruel at times...Others just don't know what to say...And of course the Stupid comments...I would have nicely replied to the ones talking about her boots with a smile, and told them Why she had to wear them, Smiling all the time !!! That seems to make them feel a little more ashamed of their tacklessness )

When our Daughter tte was very ill, the docs had done a biopsy on her brain which put a drilled hole in her skull ( As she grew a little bit, the skull of course never healed back over, except for the skin part...And the pressure in her head was so bad that the hole would protrude out with all the pressure making it look like a big bubble on her head blown up...Yes, she did look different and strange, but she was still my little Angel, no matter what she looked like. I got use to the stares and comments and I would just Smile at these people and nod... If they would ask me questions, I would answer them the best way I could, always with a Smile... We only went out to Dr's anyways,as she always had to be on a heating pad as she could not hold her own temp., so she ( I ) didn't have to face too many people as it was...

So just keep a Smile on your face and make a nice comment back at them, they slowly learn to stop the stares ) They just need a Few Nudges )

{{{ Special Hugs }}}

Helen

Marsha it wasn't really anything bad, it was just small comments that startto grate after a while.Like I have a disabled badge for Freya for the car, and the number of peoplethat have asked me why I am parking in a disabled bay . I't mostly olderpeople, that have a badge due to old age. I try to keep calm while i tellthem my girl will be disabled all her life , not just for a few years likemany of them.Freya is also in nappies because she has no bladder control, people ask whya 3 1/2 is still in a nappy.And she wears support boots, on holiday to greece this year we over hearedpeople saying that it was horrible of us to put a child in boots in such hotweather!As for as other kids they have been fine (so far) Freya just says ' i'vgot poorly legs!' and they take that. They do look a bit when she is in herwheel chair, and most want to get in for a ride!Right, sorry rant over !!Clare

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Clare I do not wish to offend you or upset you. Truly you do not know what I believe because you never have sat with me and had a talk. I am actually Mormon. Not Christian enough? Do we not study the Bible enough? Do I not take the Bibles teachings seriously enough? It is my own destiny. My own personally relationship with god. A relatioship that is private.

I was raised in a house that told me that just because I believed in something, just because I thought I was right, just because something was the truth for me did not mean I had the right to tell others they were wrong. That I could be a stand for others. A light for others. A way for others but the only way I could do that was to unconditionally love others. To accept others beliefs. In my life I have met many wonderful people, traveled far and wide, made many dear friends and helped many along the way as I have been helped. That is what this site is about. Helping and not judging. That is what I want for everyone here.

Sue

From: Clare <theclaremcharris@...>Subject: Re: Origin of halloween Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:48 PM

Dear Sue

I would have written to you off line about this, but as you have chosen to deny the Holy Bible and the teachings of our Almighty God openly on line, I fell it is appropriate to answer you in the public forum.

IF as you say, and I know it to be historically correct, the 'Roman' Catholic Church 'sanctioned' the Eve of All Hallows in the 800's...... they did not 'do it' per se, to santion evil and witchcraft...... I have no agreement with the church of Rome on this matter, I take my instructions from the Sacred Word of God.... the BIBLE.

"There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord..."(Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

The Word does NOT change, the Word is enduring, the Word shall be obeyed.

http://www.dianedew.com/occult.htm

I. All forms of the occult – divination, necromancy, astrology, hypnotism, fortune-telling, magic, etc. – are forbidden by God.

Leviticus 19:26-28, 31; 20:6, 27 Deuteronomy 18:9-14 2 Kings 23:24 10:2

II. Interest in the occult is not a recent development.

A. Witchcraft was openly and widely practiced in Old Testament times.

Isaiah 8:19; 19:3; 29:4 Ezekiel 21:21 Hosea 4:12 Micah 3:6-7; 5:12

B. It was still rampant in the early church.

1. Simon the magician. Acts 8:9, 11

2. Elymas the sorcerer. Acts 13:8

3. The girl at Philippi. Acts 16:16

4. The city of Ephesus. Acts 19:19

C. The Word of God testifies that there will be an increased curiosity in the occult in the latter days.

1 4:1, etc.

http://www.dianedew.com/occult.htm

I reiterate that it is my understanding this group is a Christian Group. Other's of different persuasions are welcome to be here to share in knowledge and understanding about the ugly disease we share/ have in common, BUT.... they must respect that we are Christian and therefore Christian Values will predominate. Maybe, just maybe by our Christian example, others will come to have a desire to know Our Lord Jesus Christ.

If this is not acceptable to the group, then tell me so, as you have done, but do not expect me to change my ministry and methodology.

10:33 tells us

But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven

Blessings one and all. Clare in Tas

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I am truly sorry! I did not mean to start anything here. I posted the dogs with the look alike pumpkins for a laugh, and to look at the dogs mainly. Not to start all this up heaval. There is one thing my Daddy always told me~~Cyn there are 3 things you do not talk about in public~1. Your private life, 2. Politics, and 3. Religion. I have always tried to follow his advice. I love this group, and I had no intention of upsetting anyone, and I am sorry. From the bottom of my heart. I know we are all ill, and we need comfort, and gentle words. I am feeling very bad that I have upset anyone. I will most definitely be more careful in the future, with my posts.

Love & Hugs,

Cyn

-- Re: Origin of halloween Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:48 PM

Dear Sue

I would have written to you off line about this, but as you have chosen to deny the Holy Bible and the teachings of our Almighty God openly on line, I fell it is appropriate to answer you in the public forum.

IF as you say, and I know it to be historically correct, the 'Roman' Catholic Church 'sanctioned' the Eve of All Hallows in the 800's...... they did not 'do it' per se, to santion evil and witchcraft...... I have no agreement with the church of Rome on this matter, I take my instructions from the Sacred Word of God.... the BIBLE.

"There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord..."(Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

The Word does NOT change, the Word is enduring, the Word shall be obeyed.

http://www.dianedew.com/occulthtm

I. All forms of the occult – divination, necromancy, astrology, hypnotism, fortune-telling, magic, etc. – are forbidden by God.

Leviticus 19:26-28, 31; 20:6, 27 Deuteronomy 18:9-14 2 Kings 23:24 10:2

II. Interest in the occult is not a recent development.

A. Witchcraft was openly and widely practiced in Old Testament times.

Isaiah 8:19; 19:3; 29:4 Ezekiel 21:21 Hosea 4:12 Micah 3:6-7; 5:12

B. It was still rampant in the early church.

1. Simon the magician. Acts 8:9, 11

2. Elymas the sorcerer. Acts 13:8

3. The girl at Philippi. Acts 16:16

4. The city of Ephesus. Acts 19:19

C. The Word of God testifies that there will be an increased curiosity in the occult in the latter days.

1 4:1, etc.

http://www.dianedew.com/occult.htm

I reiterate that it is my understanding this group is a Christian Group. Other's of different persuasions are welcome to be here to share in knowledge and understanding about the ugly disease we share/ have in common, BUT.... they must respect that we are Christian and therefore Christian Values will predominate. Maybe, just maybe by our Christian example, others will come to have a desire to know Our Lord Jesus Christ.

If this is not acceptable to the group, then tell me so, as you have done, but do not expect me to change my ministry and methodology.

10:33 tells us

But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven

Blessings one and all. Clare in Tas

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June 2009

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Hi Cyn, my name is and I've been a member of this group for at least a couple of years, not sure how long at this point. It's my pleasure to meet you and to talk with you in future postings. I for one, happen to have liked what you posted and I have to say, there is absolutely NOTHING offensive with what you have posted. We are talking about animals and pumkins that is it!

Want to say it's very nice to meet you and have enjoyed your posts lately with the pictures and some other OT material that I can't think of at the moment. I look forward to more in the coming days. Again nice to meet you Cyn

Hugs H

From: Clare <theclaremcharris@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: Origin of halloweenDate: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:48 PM

Dear Sue

I would have written to you off line about this, but as you have chosen to deny the Holy Bible and the teachings of our Almighty God openly on line, I fell it is appropriate to answer you in the public forum.

IF as you say, and I know it to be historically correct, the 'Roman' Catholic Church 'sanctioned' the Eve of All Hallows in the 800's...... they did not 'do it' per se, to santion evil and witchcraft.. .... I have no agreement with the church of Rome on this matter, I take my instructions from the Sacred Word of God.... the BIBLE.

"There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord..."(Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

The Word does NOT change, the Word is enduring, the Word shall be obeyed.

http://www.dianedew .com/occulthtm

I. All forms of the occult – divination, necromancy, astrology, hypnotism, fortune-telling, magic, etc. – are forbidden by God.

Leviticus 19:26-28, 31; 20:6, 27 Deuteronomy 18:9-14 2 Kings 23:24 10:2

II. Interest in the occult is not a recent development.

A. Witchcraft was openly and widely practiced in Old Testament times.

Isaiah 8:19; 19:3; 29:4 Ezekiel 21:21 Hosea 4:12 Micah 3:6-7; 5:12

B. It was still rampant in the early church.

1. Simon the magician. Acts 8:9, 11

2. Elymas the sorcerer. Acts 13:8

3. The girl at Philippi. Acts 16:16

4. The city of Ephesus. Acts 19:19

C. The Word of God testifies that there will be an increased curiosity in the occult in the latter days.

1 4:1, etc.

http://www.dianedew .com/occult. htm

I reiterate that it is my understanding this group is a Christian Group. Other's of different persuasions are welcome to be here to share in knowledge and understanding about the ugly disease we share/ have in common, BUT.... they must respect that we are Christian and therefore Christian Values will predominate. Maybe, just maybe by our Christian example, others will come to have a desire to know Our Lord Jesus Christ.

If this is not acceptable to the group, then tell me so, as you have done, but do not expect me to change my ministry and methodology.

10:33 tells us

But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven

Blessings one and all. Clare in Tas

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MoonSong

June 2009

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Cyn - Do you really think that this odd " upheaval " originated with you.

Absolutely not. This is something that is being projected on to you.

This war of religious words has been going on for centuries. It's called

Hard Sell Christianity. It is so far removed from Love and all it does

is light 'fires'. And attempt to place people in mental

straight-jackets.

Example. My husband's a realtor. He is very successful because he uses

the Soft-Sell approach. Heart-to-Heart Marketing...if you like. It is

well known in the real estate industry that pushy, Hard-Sell operators

soon go out of business. Their hidden agenda is to ride rough-shod over

vendors to secure listings. It is frowned upon.

Again. The odd upheaval we're witnessing didn't begin with you. The

undercurrents of dissension would have been lying beneath the surface

long before you entered the scene. If it hadn't been your photos it

might have been an innocent word from me or an unsuspecting message from

someone else. You have nothing to feel guilty about. So an apology isn't

necessary. As someone who was brought up to judge others by my

extremely religious Catholic mother (that's repugnant to me now) I

apologize to you for your [hurt and crushed] " upset " feelings.

There is no shame in expressing your views/opinions about your private

life, politics or religion if you wish. The shame is in when others try

to channel or control our thinking. Our Creator engineered us for

success...not failure. To please someone else and not be yourself is to

admit defeat.

You have done nothing wrong to be careful in future. Be yourself and be

strong. You will feel better in a couple of days and you know you are

not alone. I know how an event like this can make you feel. Please email

me or someone here who understands. There's a lot of love floating

around this board for you. Thank God for your kind spirit and beautiful

soul.

Love & hugs

Carlene

>

>

> From: Clare theclaremcharris@...

> Subject: Re: Origin of halloween

>

> Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:48 PM

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sue

> I would have written to you off line about this, but as you have

chosen to

> deny the Holy Bible and the teachings of our Almighty God openly on

line, I

> fell it is appropriate to answer you in the public forum.

> IF as you say, and I know it to be historically correct, the 'Roman'

> Catholic Church 'sanctioned' the Eve of All Hallows in the 800's......

they

> did not 'do it' per se, to santion evil and witchcraft...... I have no

> agreement with the church of Rome on this matter, I take my

instructions

> from the Sacred Word of God.... the BIBLE.

> " There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination,

> or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer,

> or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

> For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord... "

> (Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

> The Word does NOT change, the Word is enduring, the Word shall be

obeyed.

> http://www.dianedew.com/occult.htm

> I. All forms of the occult †" divination, necromancy, astrology,

> hypnotism,

> fortune-telling, magic, etc. †" are forbidden by God.

> Leviticus 19:26-28, 31; 20:6, 27

> Deuteronomy 18:9-14

> 2 Kings 23:24

> 10:2

> II. Interest in the occult is not a recent development.

> A. Witchcraft was openly and widely practiced in Old Testament times

>

> Isaiah 8:19; 19:3; 29:4

> Ezekiel 21:21

> Hosea 4:12

> Micah 3:6-7; 5:12

> B. It was still rampant in the early church.

> 1. Simon the magician. Acts 8:9, 11

> 2. Elymas the sorcerer. Acts 13:8

> 3. The girl at Philippi. Acts 16:16

> 4. The city of Ephesus. Acts 19:19

> C. The Word of God testifies that there will be an increased

> curiosity

> in the occult in the latter days.

> 1 4:1, etc.

> http://www.dianedew.com/occult.htm

> I reiterate that it is my understanding this group is a Christian

Group.

> Other's of different persuasions are welcome to be here to share in

> knowledge and understanding about the ugly disease we share/ have in

common,

> BUT.... they must respect that we are Christian and therefore

Christian

> Values will predominate. Maybe, just maybe by our Christian example,

others

> will come to have a desire to know Our Lord Jesus Christ.

>

> If this is not acceptable to the group, then tell me so, as you have

done,

> but do not expect me to change my ministry and methodology.

>

> 10:33 tells us

> But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father

in

> heaven

>

> Blessings one and all. Clare in Tas

>

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Cyn, so far everyone on this support group who is supporting you, including me, is so right. Carlene how perfect the words are. I know you don't know me or my situation as yet, but some time ago I was also judged by certain individuals in this groups over something very similar. I was so hurt, upset, cried for days, boy what one individual can do to hurt someone is beyond belief. I will say this group has come a long way in opening up to our individual needs whether it be christian or not and has learned, the hard way, to open their arms up to all of us and not judge us. I've decided to come back on a turbulent night, but I guess it was meant to be.

Listen to everyone here, they mean what they say. Even though you know in your heart that you have done nothing wrong, it still hurts to be the one that is believed to have started this uproar. Again, I was exactly where you are at tonight and I have learned not to take it personally. These people here are wonderful, caring, loving and very supportive...you need not apologize.

Hugs H

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Clare Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:19 PM

Cyn - Do you really think that this odd "upheaval" originated with you.Absolutely not. This is something that is being projected on to you.This war of religious words has been going on for centuries. It's calledHard Sell Christianity. It is so far removed from Love and all it doesis light 'fires'. And attempt to place people in mentalstraight-jackets.Example. My husband's a realtor. He is very successful because he usesthe Soft-Sell approach. Heart-to-Heart Marketing... if you like. It iswell known in the real estate industry that pushy, Hard-Sell operatorssoon go out of business. Their hidden agenda is to ride rough-shod overvendors to secure listings. It is frowned upon.Again. The odd upheaval we're witnessing didn't begin with you. Theundercurrents of dissension would have been lying beneath the surfacelong before you entered the scene. If it hadn't been your photos itmight have

been an innocent word from me or an unsuspecting message fromsomeone else. You have nothing to feel guilty about. So an apology isn'tnecessary. As someone who was brought up to judge others by myextremely religious Catholic mother (that's repugnant to me now) Iapologize to you for your [hurt and crushed] "upset" feelings.There is no shame in expressing your views/opinions about your privatelife, politics or religion if you wish. The shame is in when others tryto channel or control our thinking. Our Creator engineered us forsuccess...not failure. To please someone else and not be yourself is toadmit defeat.You have done nothing wrong to be careful in future. Be yourself and bestrong. You will feel better in a couple of days and you know you arenot alone. I know how an event like this can make you feel. Please emailme or someone here who understands. There's a lot of love floatingaround this

board for you. Thank God for your kind spirit and beautifulsoul.Love & hugsCarlene>>> From: Clare theclaremcharris@ ...> Subject: Re:

Origin of halloween> > Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:48 PM>>>>>> Dear Sue> I would have written to you off line about this, but as you havechosen to> deny the Holy Bible and the teachings of our Almighty God openly online, I> fell it is appropriate to answer you in the public forum.> IF as you say, and I know it to be historically correct, the 'Roman'> Catholic Church 'sanctioned' the Eve of All Hallows in the 800's......they> did not 'do it' per se, to santion evil and witchcraft.. .... I have no> agreement with the church of Rome on this matter, I take myinstructions> from the Sacred Word of God.... the

BIBLE.> "There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination,> or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer,> or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.> For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord..."> (Deuteronomy 18:10-12)> The Word does NOT change, the Word is enduring, the Word shall beobeyed.> http://www.dianedew .com/occult. htm> I. All forms of the occult â€" divination, necromancy, astrology,> hypnotism,> fortune-telling, magic, etc. â€" are forbidden by God.> Leviticus 19:26-28, 31; 20:6, 27> Deuteronomy 18:9-14> 2 Kings 23:24> 10:2> II. Interest in the occult is not a recent development.> A. Witchcraft was openly and widely practiced in Old Testament

times>> Isaiah 8:19; 19:3; 29:4> Ezekiel 21:21> Hosea 4:12> Micah 3:6-7; 5:12> B. It was still rampant in the early church.> 1. Simon the magician. Acts 8:9, 11> 2. Elymas the sorcerer. Acts 13:8> 3. The girl at Philippi. Acts 16:16> 4. The city of Ephesus. Acts 19:19> C. The Word of God testifies that there will be an increased> curiosity> in the occult in the latter days.> 1 4:1, etc.> http://www.dianedew .com/occult. htm> I reiterate that it is my understanding this group is a ChristianGroup.> Other's of different persuasions are welcome to be here to share in> knowledge and understanding about the ugly disease we share/ have incommon,> BUT.... they must respect that we are Christian and thereforeChristian> Values will

predominate. Maybe, just maybe by our Christian example,others> will come to have a desire to know Our Lord Jesus Christ.>> If this is not acceptable to the group, then tell me so, as you havedone,> but do not expect me to change my ministry and methodology.>> 10:33 tells us> But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Fatherin> heaven>> Blessings one and all. Clare in Tas>