Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Hi all, Right now I wish the symptoms we all generally talk about was all I had to worry about but......the kidney infections and trouble swallowing are becoming more bothersome for me.....I have also noticed in the last 2 weeks an uncontrollable shake in my right hand that had not experienced before...only the normal tremors.....this just started has anyone else had this? My next Drs. app. is in 3 weeks hopefully will learn more then. CSCluv** http://community.webtv.net/cat926/CATHYSCOOLCATCORNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 I just read the tail end of your message in which you had trouble convincing other workers about a unhealthy work place. While it is frustrating, understand that the lack of coworker support is part of the lack of awareness - people don't know or appreciate the dangers of sick buildings. Also understand that the insurance industry has done a good job of vilifying the act of seeking redress in court - people are cynical and naturally suspect your motivation as greed. Suggest you get yourself tested by a toxicologist, telling him/her in detail why you think it is your workplace. Then proceed based upon the results. Also suggest you see an attorney for a consultation as to your legal rights - especially the time limit for pursuing them in your state. Regards, Dale Washington ------Original Message------ From: " bherk " <bherk@...> " Sick Buildings " <egroups> Sent: October 8, 2000 4:28:24 PM GMT Subject: [] Symptoms ----- Original Message ----- From: <NHaan57933@...> <-owneregroups> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Welcome to > Thank you for the information. But, I find it very hard to convience other > co workers that the owners of the building and our employer, know that there > is a problem but to them we are expendable. As long as they are still making > money it doesn't matter. It is very hard for people to accept the fact that > the building really could be making them sick. But, I am one person willing > to speak out in public. The other employees some of them very sick, others > with lesser symptoms. They are afraid of losing their jobs. I have one > questions, can sick building syndrome affect the function of the gallbladder > or thyroid. If you have an anwser to this questions, could you please pass > on the information. We have several people in the building with the same > problem. Thank you > Melonie Rockford, IL > > ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 I have the same question. The subsidized housing that I live has mold. I have a thyroid disorder. There are a few units in the complex that I live in that have been tested for mold. Stachybotrus and Aspergillus and a few others. Some of the tenants have united and formed a tenants association. We have acquired the services of a lawyer. I could use as much direction as possible. The owners and people who work for the owners have disregarded our illnesses such as severe asthma..children who slowly have no immune system ..major headaches..nausea... chronic upper respiratory infections etc. Please if you can help me in any way it would be greatly appreciated. My name is Regina Emrick. I live in Canterbury South housing in St. sbury Vermont. My email is ginae@... or hattiemay2000@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Washington <dalewashington@...> <egroups> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:50 AM Subject: RE: [] Symptoms > I just read the tail end of your message in which you had trouble convincing > other workers about a unhealthy work place. While it is frustrating, > understand that the lack of coworker support is part of the lack of > awareness - people don't know or appreciate the dangers of sick buildings. > Also understand that the insurance industry has done a good job of vilifying > the act of seeking redress in court - people are cynical and naturally > suspect your motivation as greed. > > Suggest you get yourself tested by a toxicologist, telling him/her in detail > why you think it is your workplace. Then proceed based upon the results. > Also suggest you see an attorney for a consultation as to your legal rights > - especially the time limit for pursuing them in your state. > Regards, > Dale Washington > ------Original Message------ > From: " bherk " <bherk@...> > " Sick Buildings " <egroups> > Sent: October 8, 2000 4:28:24 PM GMT > Subject: [] Symptoms > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NHaan57933@...> > <-owneregroups> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:40 AM > Subject: Re: Welcome to > > > > Thank you for the information. But, I find it very hard to convience > other > > co workers that the owners of the building and our employer, know that > there > > is a problem but to them we are expendable. As long as they are still > making > > money it doesn't matter. It is very hard for people to accept the fact > that > > the building really could be making them sick. But, I am one person > willing > > to speak out in public. The other employees some of them very sick, > others > > with lesser symptoms. They are afraid of losing their jobs. I have one > > questions, can sick building syndrome affect the function of the > gallbladder > > or thyroid. If you have an anwser to this questions, could you please > pass > > on the information. We have several people in the building with the same > > problem. Thank you > > Melonie Rockford, IL > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 hi all, l am wondering what the symptoms of gallstones are..l cant seem to find the info on it..thankyou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 This certainly sounds like extreme anxiety attacks. This could mean there is an over abundance of candida albicans in the body, and certain types of toxicity, like mercury, lead, or monoxide. It becomes quite obvious the liver is having somewhat of a problem dealing with all that's taking place from the Chronic Fatigue and liver discomfort expressed. One of the best suggestions I could give is to get hold of Dr. Cabot's books "The Liver Cleansing Diet" and "The Bowel Cleansing Diet" as these will certainly give a simple start on getting back some feeling of life. The journey isn't a quick fix in a bottle either. I would also imagine that in order to have just a moment of feeling like being alive sugar is close to being a staple of what foods are eaten, when you do eat. These should be avoided, but, the problem with doing so is that there will be a real problem with the extremes in anxiety that can be produced as the body becomes toxic from the die-off of candida. This is ironic because of the anxiety that's produced from having the very temporary high of the sugared food product. Talk about a Catch 22. It could also be that there are other parasites besides the candida that are making for the overall problem. Regardless of all these causes the most important thing to realize is the synergetic interplay between the liver, gallbladder, pancreas, stomach and intestines for getting back to relatively good health. As you start to work at getting back the health lost from parasites, or just a bad diet, you'll be facing a need to get the bowels working so as to get the waste out, and the liver supported with the right foods to help it to do the scrubbing action it's designed to do. Once you have all this in mind it makes the process much, much more simpler. It's just to bad our doctors don't explain this process with better clarity than just giving out prescriptions for pills to mask the real causes of the health problem. The next best suggestion I can give here is to avoid all milk (except yogurt and cheeses that are made naturally with enzymes not hydrogenated oils like most cheese slices), refined flower and sugar, saturated fats (like you get from coagulated bacon grease ), and hydrogenated fats (like you get from deep fried foods). Just doing this will start the process of cleansing. Now add to the diet foods that are soluble and insoluble fiber. These will be acquired by way of fruits (don't worry about a candida diet at this time), vegetables, legumes, and nuts. These foods will also supply EFAs (Essential Fatty Acids) that the liver will need to produce the HDL cholesterol that will act as a cleanser for the rest of the body, and feeds the liver what it needs to function at full capacity for burning off excess body fat. DaleDa_@... ----- Original Message ----- From: gallstones Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: Symptoms Hi, I'm new to the group. I've heard a lot of good things about the cleanse and am going to do one soon. I'm not afraid of it in any way but I AM afraid of it not working. I feel as though it is my last hope. I've heard a lot of different symptoms respond to this cleanse but I was wondering if anyone could talk about certain symptoms that have been relieved for them. I don't suffer from gall bladder "attacks" although I have a very sore liver. Some of my symptoms are: SEVERE fatigue Food allergies Cold sweats and inability to tolerate temperature changes SEVERE brain fog Insomnia An inability to eat, no appetite, have to force myself to eat Numbness and weekness in my feet and legs Shortness of breath Chest pains that come and go If anyone could comment on any of these symtoms and whether the cleanse has helped these symptoms, I would be greatly appreciative. Thank you so much. jas1111usCollected testimonials:http:///messages/gallstones-testimonialsYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. Post message: gallstones Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe URL to this page: gallstones By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself!List Archives: http:///messages/gallstonesWeb Site for more information: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Dear Meg, has a really good point here. Before I read her note, I was wondering if you had been to a doctor, because the symptoms you describe reminded me of possible infection such as strep or staph or candida, a yeast infection. Strep and staph can be passed all around a family, including the dogs, and create quite a mystery. They can also create rashes, and worse things if not treated. Candida is both an infection in its own right and a symptom of underlying health problems. Or, your daughter could simply have a bladder infection. A diet high in sugars from any source can exacerbate diabetes and candida. Also, your new food may be causing a fluctuation in symptoms simply because it is new, not because of the particular food itself. If, though medical testing you can rule out diabetes, candida, and bacterial infections, and any other medical reason for your family's symptoms (I'm not an expert so I don't know all the possible reasons), then you are left with trial and error - as before - to optimize your family's health. I remember reading (here?) that different people respond differently to different diets; that one diet is not optimal for every person. If you find that your family has an infection, do not be afraid to take the antibiotics, because you can continue to pump the good bacteria into your bodies (with yogurt, saurkraut, and other probiotic foods) while killing the bad bacteria and so you will end up with a much better intestinal environment once the course of medicine is finished. And don't forget to treat the dog! My hunch here is that you are dealing with an immune system phenomenon. If immunity is completely suppressed, for instance through malnutrition or through taking anti-cancer drugs, you will have no symptoms of illness, even if you are harboring infections. When your immunity improves, naturally your body becomes strong enough to try to fight off infections and you get symptoms. Your family's symptoms may be a good sign that your bodies are getting stronger. Thank you for listening, Be well. > < I've been noticing that Lizzy (2-1/2 yr old) has been having some > episodes of urgent peeing and thirst. > > > > Hi Meg, > > This sounds just like me when I was diagnosed with Diabetes at the age of > 7. Please, Please, test her for this. I think there might be a strip you > could get at the drug store that will read if she has sugar in her urine. > They are very easy to use and would only cost a few dollars. This is just a > guess but is exactly what I remember before I was diagnosed. I hope it is > not! Anyway, because of my experience it would be the first thing I would > check if my boys where to have these symptoms. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 I know that sometimes things look worse before they get better. We've had a lot of years of experience in eating healthier diets and I've become quite observant of little signs.. much like a farmer would keep an eye on the overall health of his livestock :-). Anyway, while we were all-raw the kids (all 7) had attained very nice, even and rosey color in their cheeks and red lips, they've all been free of tooth decay and are a nice, healthy weight. We had a thorough family screening done a year ago and found nothing in the children except residual effects of vaccinations in the 2 oldest. None of the children have had anything more serious than a cold in the past 8 years. They have no body odor and almost imperceptible stool odor.. with the baby one had to look to see if there was a BM in the diaper. They bathe and brush their teeth far less frequently than average, just because there isn't a need. I was hoping we could maintain the level of health that we had with the NT diet, but things started to break down and I could see bad signs in all of us. Initially, I appeared to have better digestion, but I think that was because in the first couple weeks I had tried several raw fish recipes. I think those are great and I will definitely continue to use them. Since I was also having a small amount of good bread at that time, I may also continue with that and see how it goes. It was when I started adding cooked proteins and starches that the problems began, even though we ate very lightly of these and had lacto-fermented foods or beverages along with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Ms Raven, My symptoms also came on very rapidly after about a 3 month bout with a bad cold. I had wandering joint pain that settled permanently into my feet, hands, and knees. My RA titer was 196. Prednisone and then methotrexate has really helped. Good luck with a diagnosis and I hope you get relief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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