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Please check this out. This is an article written by Belkin. He was

interviewed on the recent 20/20 segment on the hepatitis B vaccine. This one

article provides excellent information on the real statistics and will

provide good information to pass on to those who are considering whether or

not to receive this vaccine.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_excomm/19990125_xex_governmentma.shtml

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Note from Edda West - VRAN- Vaccination Risk Awareness Network (Canada).

In response to Rene & Gemma about hepB vaccine in Canada. All Canadian

school children are now getting these shots, varying in different provinces

from grades 3 to 7, and catch up in high schools. As well, newborns in New

Brunswick, North West Territories, and Vancouver area are also currently

vaccinated. Prince Island includes it in the infant shots starting

at two months of age and Manitoba is also planning to vaccinate newborns

starting this year. As Canadians, we can pretty well expect the same scene

to unfold here as is happening in the states. The transnational

pharmaceutical industry is agressively thrusting its will globally - and

health officials who implement these policies are their willing puppets.

Dr. Guylaine Lanctot, author of the Medical Mafia who has been persecuted by

the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Quebec for her outspoken critique

of vaccine agendas has this to say:

" Immunization policies are uniform throughout the world. These policy

decisions are made and immunization campaigns are instigated by one global

institution: The World Health Organization (WHO), to which all member

countries (ours included) blindly apply. But who makes the decisions at

WHO? The three principle players are the World Bank, the Rockefeller

Foundation and UNICEF. UNICEF is mainly financed by one of the world's

largest manufactureres of vaccines, Pasteur-Merieux-Connaught.

We have to realize that it is the financiers who control our health. The

more we're ill, the greater their profits. Their goal is not our wellness

but our illness. They have admitted behind closed doors that a laudable

objective would be to reduce the world ppulation by half. What better way

than with vaccines which make people ill and destroy their immune systems?

Vaccines make targeted genocide possible and are used for biological weapons

experimentation. Of course we physicians, much less the public at large,

are never made aware of any of this. "

Hep B

>From: " Rene and Gemma Beierback " <beierbag@...>

>

>Hi all I'm in Canada and to the best of my knowledge children do not

receive

>hep b. I guess in Canada we don't worry about our infants using intre.

>drugs or having sex which to the best of my knowledge is the main way of

>getting hep b. I went to the AAP page and it lists the chicken pox vaccine

>as necessary. Give me a break, what next??? I forsee a day when they will

>have an aids vaccine (which is great) but they'll be routinely giving it to

>infants. Not my child!!!

>Thanks for all you info and knowledge

>Gemma

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At 03:20 PM 07/09/2000 -0700, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

>Do you have an email address for Betty Fluck, the nurse who was injured

>by the hep B vaccine? Do you thank she would mind if I contacted her?

>You can email me privately if you'd like. Thanks

>

>

>

No, I don't but I do have the email address for another nurse damaged by

Hep B, Kreider. I can forward your note to her asking her to contact

you if you'd like.

Sheri

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In a message dated 8/14/00 2:08:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Mand@... writes:

<<

<<Are babies still being vaxed for Hep B at birth in hospitals? I thought

they

had changed it to starting this at 6 months. Does anyone know?

Kerin>>

My Ped. told me that they pulled it to try to lower the level of mercury in

it. Which, she said, was kind of laughable to her, as there was more

mercury

in the other shots to begin with.

This was a year ago before I knew what I know. The last part of her

statement should have given me a moment of pause, no?

M. in Michigan >>

My kidsa re 18 months apart. With brady I had to sign a form not to have the

hep b at birth in the hosp, WIth abbey, 18 months later when I informed them

upon check in that I didn't want the hep b, I was told they didn't do that at

birth anymore. Funny how thigs change so quickly!!!

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In a message dated 08/16/2000 7:40:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

whalen@... writes:

<< Robin,

Do you think your friend said that just to irritate you ? Or do you really

believe her ?

Scary. I personally would not want to have a home birth, but I sure would

if I felt that kind of a threat was real !

>>

When we had our youngest in the Navel hospital(dh is a marine) they didnt'

tell us he would be getting the hep b shot. We were very mad when we found

out about it. They gave it to him the day that he was born!! WE are going

to have a homebirth with this one, but we know that if we have her dr. at the

navel hospital that we are in for alot of trouble.

Sunflower

Homeschooling Mommy to

(7/92)

Tristen(3/97)

&

Due with #3 Oct. 14, 2000

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le,

No, In fact after this I sent her the book that I have written about my

owns son vaccine injury and she called me back very up set about it. She

said that she hoped she didn't cause any problems to 'all those

children' I think it is only a matter of time before everyone knows

someone of a vaccine injued child. It is only a matter of time.

Robin

Whalen wrote:

>

> Robin,

>

> Do you think your friend said that just to irritate you ? Or do you

> really believe her ?

> Scary. I personally would not want to have a home birth, but I sure

> would if I felt that kind of a threat was real !

>

> ~le

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a, I've answered your questions as best I can at this time, in the body

of your email. Sandy from Alaska

Hep B

Here is the list of questions I'm developing to learn more about the Hep B

vaccine. I'm adding questions to it as I learn more but wonder if anyone has

information (with references) in answer to any of these questions?

Two good references are:

1. Murray BJ. The hepatitis B carrier state. American Family Physician,

1986; 33(4): 127-3

2. Esteban R. Risk of hepatitis B in infancy and childhood. Vaccine,

1995; 13 Suppl 1: S35-6.

How many newborns get Hepatitis B whose mothers aren't Hep B pos? Virtually

none

How many children who do not get Hep B from their mothers get it through

household contact? I don't know the answer to this question, although it should

not be any significant number since the way you get Hep B, other than through

your mother as an infant, is via intravenous drug use, promiscuous sex, etc.

with carriers of Hep B.

What percentage develop life long immunity, what percentage die and what

percentage develop Chronic Hep B? From what I understand, if an infant gets Hep

B, there is a high risk of them becoming chronic carriers, but they are almost

virtually assured of not getting it unless born to a Hep B positive mom. Anyone

else has about a 90-95% chance of recovering, and among those that do not

" recover " a smaller percentage develop chronic problems. The rest merely remain

carriers. The percent may even be smaller, because I believe that the 5-10% is

based on the reported cases. The estimates the CDC comes up with, of 140,000 to

300,000 new cases every year through sampling may indicate that there are merely

many thousands of symptom free recovered people out there. So the 5-10% of the

10,000 or so reported cases ends up being less than 1% of actual cases.

How many people recover from Hepatitis B in the US? Virtually all of them

How long does the vaccine last? That is unknown

Special issues

The duration of vaccine-induced immunity is uncertain but is certainly long

term. Presently there is no recommendation for administration of booster doses

(7).

http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

What are the ways of contracting Hep B?

You get hepatitis B by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of an

infected person; for example, you can become infected by having sex or sharing

needles with an infected person. A baby can get hepatitis B from an infected

mother during childbirth.

Hepatitis B is not spread through food or water or by casual contact.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm

Transmission

Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by either skin puncture or mucous membrane

contact with human blood and other infectious body fluids. The virus is found in

highest concentrations in blood (as high as 10 billion viruses per mL); 10 to

100 times lower concentrations are found in saliva, semen and vaginal fluid. The

main ways HBV is spread are perinatal (mother to baby), child-to-child, during

sexual contact, and through unsafe injections and transfusions. Hepatitis B

virus is not spread by air, food, or water.

Spread of HBV from mother to baby usually happens at the time the baby is

born. There is no evidence that HBV can be spread by breastfeeding.

Spread of HBV from child-to-child accounts for most HBV infections worldwide.

Child-to-child spread most likely happens as a result of contact of skin sores,

small breaks in the skin, or mucous membranes with blood, skin sores, or perhaps

saliva. Spread from inanimate objects, such as sharing of wash towels or

toothbrushes, may also occur because HBV can survive for at least 7 days outside

the body.

Unsafe injection practices are a major source of HBV and other blood-borne

pathogen (e.g., hepatitis C virus, human immuno-deficiency virus) transmission

worldwide. In addition, blood transfusion can be a major source of HBV

transmission in countries where the blood supply is not screened. Inadequate

infection control practices, including reuse of contaminated medical or dental

equipment, failure to use appropriate disinfection and sterilization practices

for equipment and environmental surfaces, and improper use of multi-dose

medication vials, can also result in transmission of HBV and other bloodborne

pathogens. In addition, illicit injecting drug use is a common mode of HBV

transmission in many countries.

HBV is efficiently spread by sexual contact, which can account for a high

proportion of hepatitis B cases among adolescents and adults in countries with a

low and intermediate prevalence of HBV infection. In countries with a high

prevalence of HBV infection, sexual transmission does not account for a high

percentage of cases because most persons are already infected during childhood.

http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

Who is at risk?

One out of 20 people in the United States will get hepatitis B some time

during their lives. Your risk is higher if you

have sex with someone infected with HBV

have sex with more than one partner

are a man and have sex with a man

live in the same house with someone who has lifelong HBV infection

have a job that involves contact with human blood

shoot drugs

are a patient or work in a home for the developmentally disabled

have hemophilia

travel to areas where hepatitis B is common

Your risk is also higher if your parents were born in Southeast Asia, Africa,

the Amazon Basin in South America, the Pacific Islands, and the Middle East.

If you are at risk for HBV infection, ask your health care provider about

hepatitis B vaccine.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm

Why is the vaccine given at birth/2 weeks?

In 1991 EPI set targets for the introduction of hepatitis B vaccine into

national immunization programmes. These targets, approved by the World Health

Assembly in 1992, indicated that hepatitis B vaccine should be integrated into

national immunization programmes in all countries with a prevalence of chronic

HBV infection (HBsAg) of 8% or greater by 1995 and in all countries by 1997. In

all countries, the most effective strategy is incorporation of hepatitis B

vaccine into the routine infant immunization schedules. In 1994, the World

Health Assembly, in it's Ninth General Programme of Work added a disease

reduction target for hepatitis B, calling for an 80% decrease in the incidence

of new chronic HBV infections in children by the year 2001. Priorities should

be:

1. Routine infant hepatitis B vaccination. Routine vaccination of all infants

as an integral part of the national immunization schedule should be the highest

priority in all countries. In countries with a high endemicity of HBV infection

(HBsAg prevalence ³8%), routine infant hepatitis B vaccination can rapidly

reduce transmission because most chronic infections are acquired from spread

either from mother to baby or from child-to-child. In countries with lower HBV

endemicity, routine infant hepatitis B vaccination should also be the highest

priority because a high proportion of chronic infections may be acquired during

childhood in these countries; and many infections acquired during childhood

occur among children born to mothers who are NOT infected with HBV. Thus, these

infections would not be prevented by perinatal hepatitis B prevention programmes

that screen pregnant women for HBsAg and provide post-exposure immunization for

infants of HBsAg-positive mothers.

http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

What are the components of the vaccine, and what are they for?

What can happen if Niall gets Hep B?

Disease

HBV infection leads to one of three outcomes in man. An infected individual

may die of fulminant hepatitis within days or weeks after onset of disease, may

recover after symptomatic or asymptomatic infection and develop lifelong

immunity, or may develop chronic infection, a persistent infection which usually

lasts for life. The age of infection is the major factor in determining the

outcome of HBV infection. Fewer than 10% of children under 5 years of age are

sick when they first become infected, but 80%-90% of infants infected during the

first year of life, and 30%-50% of children infected between 1-4 years of age

develop chronic infection. By comparison, 30%-50% of adults are sick when they

first become infected, but only 2%-5% develop chronic infection.

http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

What percentage of people who get Hep B develop chronic Hepatitis B?

Hepatitis B is a viral infection of the liver. More than two billion

individuals alive today have been infected at some time in their lives with the

hepatitis B virus (HBV) and approximately 350 million are chronically infected

with this virus (1). These chronically infected persons are at high risk of

serious illness and death from cirrhosis of the liver and liver cancer, diseases

that kill about one million chronically infected persons per year worldwide.

Liver cancer caused by HBV infection is one of the top three causes of cancer

death in much of Africa, Asia, and the Pacific Basin.

A safe and effective vaccine against hepatitis B has been available since 1982

- the first vaccine against cancer. WHO recommends that hepatitis B vaccine be

included in routine infant immunization schedules for all children in all

countries.

http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

Note: 350M/2B= 0.000175% chance of chronic infection worldwide.

Is the Hepatitis B vaccine mercury free?

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At 10:39 AM 05/09/2001 -0700, you wrote:

>

>

> Here is the list of questions I'm developing to learn more about the Hep

B vaccine. I'm adding questions to it as I learn more but wonder if anyone

has information (with references) in answer to any of these questions?

>

> How many newborns get Hepatitis B whose mothers aren't Hep B pos?

none

>

> How many children who do not get Hep B from their mothers get it through

household contact?

few - it is sexually and blood transmitted and we are not talking a little

cut here - we are talking sex, drugs, working in hospital with blood (and I

never got it and had blood pouring all over me many times in ICUs and ER's)

>

>

>What percentage develop life long immunity, what percentage die and what

percentage develop Chronic Hep B?

See stats in websites above

>

>

>

>How many people recover from Hepatitis B in the US?

most

see stats in websites above

>

>

>

>How long does the vaccine last?

>

You assume it works? If it does work, no one knows how long it lasts and

no eviddence it works either

>Special issues

>

>The duration of vaccine-induced immunity is uncertain but is certainly

long term. Presently there is no recommendation for administration of

booster doses (7).

No it is not certain at all.

>

>

>What are the ways of contracting Hep B?

sex, IV drugs, receiving blood products, possibly contamination by blood

such as working with medical emergencies (but I don't even believe that one

- or the others for the most part) You have to realize the motivation for

selling this vaccine.

>

>

>You get hepatitis B by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of an

infected person; for example, you can become infected by having sex or

sharing needles with an infected person. A baby can get hepatitis B from an

infected mother during childbirth.

Easy to test the mother and still no reason to give the vaccine in my opinion.

>

>Hepatitis B is not spread through food or water or by casual contact.

>

>http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm

>

>

>

>Transmission

>

>Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by either skin puncture or mucous

membrane contact with human blood and other infectious body fluids. The

virus is found in highest concentrations in blood (as high as 10 billion

viruses per mL); 10 to 100 times lower concentrations are found in saliva,

semen and vaginal fluid. The main ways HBV is spread are perinatal (mother

to baby), child-to-child, during sexual contact, and through unsafe

injections and transfusions. Hepatitis B virus is not spread by air, food,

or water.

>

What a joke - child to child contact - I ask you to find proof of that one.

>Spread of HBV from mother to baby usually happens at the time the baby is

born. There is no evidence that HBV can be spread by breastfeeding.

>

>Spread of HBV from child-to-child accounts for most HBV infections

worldwide. Child-to-child spread most likely happens as a result of contact

of skin sores, small breaks in the skin, or mucous membranes with blood,

skin sores, or perhaps saliva. Spread from inanimate objects, such as

sharing of wash towels or toothbrushes, may also occur because HBV can

survive for at least 7 days outside the body.

>

>Unsafe injection practices are a major source of HBV and other blood-borne

pathogen (e.g., hepatitis C virus, human immuno-deficiency virus)

transmission worldwide. In addition, blood transfusion can be a major

source of HBV transmission in countries where the blood supply is not

screened. Inadequate infection control practices, including reuse of

contaminated medical or dental equipment, failure to use appropriate

disinfection and sterilization practices for equipment and environmental

surfaces, and improper use of multi-dose medication vials, can also result

in transmission of HBV and other bloodborne pathogens. In addition, illicit

injecting drug use is a common mode of HBV transmission in many countries.

>

>HBV is efficiently spread by sexual contact, which can account for a high

proportion of hepatitis B cases among adolescents and adults in countries

with a low and intermediate prevalence of HBV infection. In countries with

a high prevalence of HBV infection, sexual transmission does not account

for a high percentage of cases because most persons are already infected

during childhood.

>

>http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm

>

>

>

>Who is at risk?

>

>One out of 20 people in the United States will get hepatitis B some time

during their lives. Your risk is higher if you

AND HOW DO THEY KNOW THIS - bunch of lies.

>

> have sex with someone infected with HBV

> have sex with more than one partner

> are a man and have sex with a man

> live in the same house with someone who has lifelong HBV infection

> have a job that involves contact with human blood

> shoot drugs

> are a patient or work in a home for the developmentally disabled

> have hemophilia

> travel to areas where hepatitis B is common

>

>Your risk is also higher if your parents were born in Southeast Asia,

Africa, the Amazon Basin in South America, the Pacific Islands, and the

Middle East.

>

>If you are at risk for HBV infection, ask your health care provider about

hepatitis B vaccine.

>

>http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm

>

>

>

>Why is the vaccine given at birth/2 weeks?

TO sell vaccine, pure and simple - they have admitted they can't get

prostitutes, IV drug users and gays so they will get your children and hope

it works and hope it lasts and hope it doesn't kill them

>

>What are the components of the vaccine, and what are they for?

I will post the insert

>

>

>

>What can happen if Niall gets Hep B?

And what is the likelihood of that and again read

http://www.909shot.com

>

>

>

>Disease

>

>

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Hi , we voiced our concern about the Hep B when my son was an

infant. The ped said the vaccine was perfectly safe. When we pushed

the issue, he seemed to be angered and said he has a patient right

now who is dying of Hep B. Scared the crap out of us basically.

Here is a link on Hep B from our site.

http://users.adelphia.net/~cdc/VaccineInfo.htm#HepB

> What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and

> the reason their baby needs it?

>

>

>

> From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and

> sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason

> that MD's give for it? They must say something other then

> these two ways of infection.

>

>

>

> And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it

> more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the

> symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of

> a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the

> wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific.

>

>

>

>

> I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't

> have time to read all the data. But then again, it is

> overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking

> for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as

> possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time.

> I think it's important to do this. then once they're

> convinced we can turn them into

>

> crusaders <smile>

>

>

>

> Thanks so much!

>

>

>

> *Your Health Is In Your Hands*

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

We were surprised with my daugther (and this was before we knew

anything really) when the doc explained that she'd be vaccinated for

hep B. When we decided to wait on it, and asked her why, she said

that many babies die from Hepatitis. When we mentioned that it is

passed from drug IV users and sex.. she said " Well, kids get it from

living with adults that have it, or they can pick it up in a

resteraunt (I found that one a little odd) and then they get to

school and bite each other, and it is transmitted through biting "

We still opted to " wait " but it did scare us a little. I think half

the time they just make stuff up.

I am saddened also by parents who say they don't have time. That's

what I've been told by three of my friends recently, that they have

no time to watch the tape, or read the stuff. I get sort of angry,

like " you don't have TIME to protect your childs life????? " To me,

to inject a child with something you haven't a clue about, simply

because your doc said so... is verging on child abuse. Oh I was

guilty of the same thing and Thank God my vaxed and partially vaxed

children are alive and well, but also Thank God that I know bette

now!

:)

Laurette ;)

> What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and

> the reason their baby needs it?

>

>

>

> From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and

> sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason

> that MD's give for it? They must say something other then

> these two ways of infection.

>

>

>

> And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it

> more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the

> symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of

> a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the

> wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific.

>

>

>

>

> I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't

> have time to read all the data. But then again, it is

> overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking

> for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as

> possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time.

> I think it's important to do this. then once they're

> convinced we can turn them into

>

> crusaders <smile>

>

>

>

> Thanks so much!

>

>

>

> *Your Health Is In Your Hands*

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Also i think men c can mutate into men b and has caused a death

through a men c vaccination.

A

-- In Vaccinations , " Laurette " <laurettelynn@y...>

wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> We were surprised with my daugther (and this was before we knew

> anything really) when the doc explained that she'd be vaccinated

for

> hep B. When we decided to wait on it, and asked her why, she said

> that many babies die from Hepatitis. When we mentioned that it is

> passed from drug IV users and sex.. she said " Well, kids get it

from

> living with adults that have it, or they can pick it up in a

> resteraunt (I found that one a little odd) and then they get to

> school and bite each other, and it is transmitted through biting "

>

> We still opted to " wait " but it did scare us a little. I think

half

> the time they just make stuff up.

>

>

> I am saddened also by parents who say they don't have time.

That's

> what I've been told by three of my friends recently, that they

have

> no time to watch the tape, or read the stuff. I get sort of

angry,

> like " you don't have TIME to protect your childs life????? " To

me,

> to inject a child with something you haven't a clue about, simply

> because your doc said so... is verging on child abuse. Oh I was

> guilty of the same thing and Thank God my vaxed and partially

vaxed

> children are alive and well, but also Thank God that I know bette

> now!

>

> :)

>

> Laurette ;)

>

>

>

> > What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and

> > the reason their baby needs it?

> >

> >

> >

> > From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and

> > sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason

> > that MD's give for it? They must say something other then

> > these two ways of infection.

> >

> >

> >

> > And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it

> > more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the

> > symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of

> > a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the

> > wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't

> > have time to read all the data. But then again, it is

> > overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking

> > for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as

> > possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time.

> > I think it's important to do this. then once they're

> > convinced we can turn them into

> >

> > crusaders <smile>

> >

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When I worked at a county hospital before moving here, my supervisor

told me that the reason the Hep B vax was being given to babies was

because of the epidemic proportions it was being seen in adult

patients. The majority of the patients that we worked with were

either very poor or homeless, and many where I worked (I worked in an

end-of-life unit with mostly AIDS/cancer patients) were also drug

users. My supervisor explained to me that it is illegal to require

that adults of a certain " lifestyle " be vaccinated, even though it is

within that population that the most Hep B cases come from (drug users

in this case). But you *can* pressure the government to make it

mandatory for children to receive the vaccine a lot more easily.

This was not from someone who was anti-vaccine. In fact, he urged me

on many occasions to go through the 3-step vaccination process for Hep

B because, since I was " employed " there (I was a volunteer for part of

a religious internship - I worked about 24 hours per week there), it

was free to me. He did not like the fact that each time it was

brought up I told him that I discussed it with my doctor and decided

that it was not in my best interest to take the vaccine.

So, take it for what it's worth. I'm not willing to give his name or

location because I don't know if he is still employed there and I

don't have his permission to be sharing this story. It is not meant

as anti-homeless or anti-poor or anti-drug users... it's just the

population I worked with and the information he had received through

going to department head meetings.

Genevieve, South Dakota

> What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and

> the reason their baby needs it?

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DD's first pediatritian told me that Hep B could be contracted by sharing a

toothbrush (bloody gums) or a washcloth (claimed it can be transmitted by

microscopic amounts of blood).

I knew he was full of hooey but I often wonder how many ignorant parents got

fish eyes and signed up for that vax.

--

Aimee, Mom to Marah-Jade Born 09/17/03 vaccine free since 12/03

" Half of the modern drugs could well be thrown out of the window, except that

the birds might eat them. Dr. Henry Fischer "

What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and

the reason their baby needs it?

From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and

sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason

that MD's give for it? They must say something other then

these two ways of infection.

And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it

more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the

symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of

a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the

wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific.

I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't

have time to read all the data. But then again, it is

overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking

for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as

possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time.

I think it's important to do this. then once they're

convinced we can turn them into

crusaders <smile>

Thanks so much!

*Your Health Is In Your Hands*

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  • 3 years later...

Call me crazy, but i believe they are trying to kill us. Make us sick, make a

lot of money and we die young = pharma makes a truck load of $$$$ and gov't

saves on paying out social security; which they don't have anyway, because

they've squandered it. Everybody wins and besides we need some form of

population control, right? Sounds like the makings of a conspiracy therory to

me.

God help all the ignorant souls out there that are oblivious to this insanity.

Connie

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Hi Jen,

I come from a third world country originally. Hep B in my home country

is most often transmitted from mother to child at birth.

We have a huge extended family and everyone in our family has Hep B

acquired as a child or infant. Not a single person in our family is

affected by carrying Hep B. Which is the case for the vast majority of

people who have Hep B - they are just that " carriers " who will never

have an active infection.

So we a better understanding of Hep B and it's " actually " risks is

what you need to counter with.

What do I have to do manage being a Hep B carrier? Bloodwork at my

physical every year to measure how my liver is functioning and that's

it. And should I ever have replicating Hep B DNA (active virus) it's a

very manageable disease.

Acute Illness: About 90% of adults clear the virus from their system

after serious infection - which gives them life-long naturally

acquired immunity.

Chronic Infection: About 350 million people worldwide have long-term

infection (>=5%). 15 to 40% advance to liver damage and liver disease.

Death from Chronic Liver Disease, Disease from liver damage, and

Cancer of the Liver: 15-25% risk, >1 million people per year worldwide

(and I would suggest to you that in a country with an advanced medical

system the likelihood of death from Hep B is much lower than this.

Remember the above from:

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/hcai-iamss/bbp-pts/hepatitis/hep_b_e.html

are GLOBAL statistics. It annoys me to no end that our health agencies

do not quote the number in Canada or the US that are affected. Argh.

HTH,

Tash

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> I sent an article to a friend the other day and this is what she

> sent me back. How do i counter this? I don't know what to say to

> her. Could anyone help me?

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> She said:

> " Here is a link to some excellent info on Hepatitis B.

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> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/fact.htm

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> I received this vaccine prior to entering Dental Hygiene school. As

> a healthcare worker, I was exposed to blood and saliva every day and

> used sharp instruments in patients mouths. There is no cure for Hep

> B, and not all carriers are " drug using homosexuals " , as the article

> states. (this is the article i sent her

> http://www.hacres.com/healthtipArticles2007/522_3.asp

> It is by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. )

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> Interestingly, there is a high percentage of children infected:

> CDC estimates that one-third of the life-long hepatitis B virus

> infections in the United States resulted from infections occurring

> in infants and young children. "

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> Help?

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See my webpages and you will find what you need

Especiallyhep b facts

most recover just fine

http://www.wellwithin1.com/hepatitisb.htm

> I sent an article to a friend the other day and this is what she

> sent me back. How do i counter this? I don't know what to say to

> her. Could anyone help me?

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> She said:

> " Here is a link to some excellent info on Hepatitis B.

>

> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/fact.htm

>

> I received this vaccine prior to entering Dental Hygiene school. As

> a healthcare worker, I was exposed to blood and saliva every day and

> used sharp instruments in patients mouths. There is no cure for Hep

> B, and not all carriers are " drug using homosexuals " , as the article

> states. (this is the article i sent her

> http://www.hacres.com/healthtipArticles2007/522_3.asp

> It is by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. )

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> Interestingly, there is a high percentage of children infected:

> CDC estimates that one-third of the life-long hepatitis B virus

> infections in the United States resulted from infections occurring

> in infants and young children. "

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> Help?

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> jen c

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I had my hep b vaccine 4 years ago. I didn't pay anything when I told the nurse that I am a dental nurse working in an NHS practice.Sent from my HTC----- Reply message -----From: " dr.nada athab " <dr_nadaalwarda@...> " " < >Subject: Re: Hep BDate: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 10:31 can any one answer me coz am going now 2 take the vaccine and they told me to pay 20 pounds 4 each dose

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