Guest guest Posted January 25, 1999 Report Share Posted January 25, 1999 Please check this out. This is an article written by Belkin. He was interviewed on the recent 20/20 segment on the hepatitis B vaccine. This one article provides excellent information on the real statistics and will provide good information to pass on to those who are considering whether or not to receive this vaccine. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_excomm/19990125_xex_governmentma.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 1999 Report Share Posted January 25, 1999 huh oh now not the hep b...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Note from Edda West - VRAN- Vaccination Risk Awareness Network (Canada). In response to Rene & Gemma about hepB vaccine in Canada. All Canadian school children are now getting these shots, varying in different provinces from grades 3 to 7, and catch up in high schools. As well, newborns in New Brunswick, North West Territories, and Vancouver area are also currently vaccinated. Prince Island includes it in the infant shots starting at two months of age and Manitoba is also planning to vaccinate newborns starting this year. As Canadians, we can pretty well expect the same scene to unfold here as is happening in the states. The transnational pharmaceutical industry is agressively thrusting its will globally - and health officials who implement these policies are their willing puppets. Dr. Guylaine Lanctot, author of the Medical Mafia who has been persecuted by the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Quebec for her outspoken critique of vaccine agendas has this to say: " Immunization policies are uniform throughout the world. These policy decisions are made and immunization campaigns are instigated by one global institution: The World Health Organization (WHO), to which all member countries (ours included) blindly apply. But who makes the decisions at WHO? The three principle players are the World Bank, the Rockefeller Foundation and UNICEF. UNICEF is mainly financed by one of the world's largest manufactureres of vaccines, Pasteur-Merieux-Connaught. We have to realize that it is the financiers who control our health. The more we're ill, the greater their profits. Their goal is not our wellness but our illness. They have admitted behind closed doors that a laudable objective would be to reduce the world ppulation by half. What better way than with vaccines which make people ill and destroy their immune systems? Vaccines make targeted genocide possible and are used for biological weapons experimentation. Of course we physicians, much less the public at large, are never made aware of any of this. " Hep B >From: " Rene and Gemma Beierback " <beierbag@...> > >Hi all I'm in Canada and to the best of my knowledge children do not receive >hep b. I guess in Canada we don't worry about our infants using intre. >drugs or having sex which to the best of my knowledge is the main way of >getting hep b. I went to the AAP page and it lists the chicken pox vaccine >as necessary. Give me a break, what next??? I forsee a day when they will >have an aids vaccine (which is great) but they'll be routinely giving it to >infants. Not my child!!! >Thanks for all you info and knowledge >Gemma > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Have you visited our new web site? > >Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2000 Report Share Posted July 9, 2000 At 03:20 PM 07/09/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Sheri, > >Do you have an email address for Betty Fluck, the nurse who was injured >by the hep B vaccine? Do you thank she would mind if I contacted her? >You can email me privately if you'd like. Thanks > > > No, I don't but I do have the email address for another nurse damaged by Hep B, Kreider. I can forward your note to her asking her to contact you if you'd like. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA 95959 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Thanks Sheri, that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 2:08:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mand@... writes: << <<Are babies still being vaxed for Hep B at birth in hospitals? I thought they had changed it to starting this at 6 months. Does anyone know? Kerin>> My Ped. told me that they pulled it to try to lower the level of mercury in it. Which, she said, was kind of laughable to her, as there was more mercury in the other shots to begin with. This was a year ago before I knew what I know. The last part of her statement should have given me a moment of pause, no? M. in Michigan >> My kidsa re 18 months apart. With brady I had to sign a form not to have the hep b at birth in the hosp, WIth abbey, 18 months later when I informed them upon check in that I didn't want the hep b, I was told they didn't do that at birth anymore. Funny how thigs change so quickly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 In a message dated 08/16/2000 7:40:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, whalen@... writes: << Robin, Do you think your friend said that just to irritate you ? Or do you really believe her ? Scary. I personally would not want to have a home birth, but I sure would if I felt that kind of a threat was real ! >> When we had our youngest in the Navel hospital(dh is a marine) they didnt' tell us he would be getting the hep b shot. We were very mad when we found out about it. They gave it to him the day that he was born!! WE are going to have a homebirth with this one, but we know that if we have her dr. at the navel hospital that we are in for alot of trouble. Sunflower Homeschooling Mommy to (7/92) Tristen(3/97) & Due with #3 Oct. 14, 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 le, No, In fact after this I sent her the book that I have written about my owns son vaccine injury and she called me back very up set about it. She said that she hoped she didn't cause any problems to 'all those children' I think it is only a matter of time before everyone knows someone of a vaccine injued child. It is only a matter of time. Robin Whalen wrote: > > Robin, > > Do you think your friend said that just to irritate you ? Or do you > really believe her ? > Scary. I personally would not want to have a home birth, but I sure > would if I felt that kind of a threat was real ! > > ~le > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 >That is what I meant about feeling forced into a homebirth. > Or, perhaps " guided " into a homebirth??? Katrina ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2001 Report Share Posted May 9, 2001 a, I've answered your questions as best I can at this time, in the body of your email. Sandy from Alaska Hep B Here is the list of questions I'm developing to learn more about the Hep B vaccine. I'm adding questions to it as I learn more but wonder if anyone has information (with references) in answer to any of these questions? Two good references are: 1. Murray BJ. The hepatitis B carrier state. American Family Physician, 1986; 33(4): 127-3 2. Esteban R. Risk of hepatitis B in infancy and childhood. Vaccine, 1995; 13 Suppl 1: S35-6. How many newborns get Hepatitis B whose mothers aren't Hep B pos? Virtually none How many children who do not get Hep B from their mothers get it through household contact? I don't know the answer to this question, although it should not be any significant number since the way you get Hep B, other than through your mother as an infant, is via intravenous drug use, promiscuous sex, etc. with carriers of Hep B. What percentage develop life long immunity, what percentage die and what percentage develop Chronic Hep B? From what I understand, if an infant gets Hep B, there is a high risk of them becoming chronic carriers, but they are almost virtually assured of not getting it unless born to a Hep B positive mom. Anyone else has about a 90-95% chance of recovering, and among those that do not " recover " a smaller percentage develop chronic problems. The rest merely remain carriers. The percent may even be smaller, because I believe that the 5-10% is based on the reported cases. The estimates the CDC comes up with, of 140,000 to 300,000 new cases every year through sampling may indicate that there are merely many thousands of symptom free recovered people out there. So the 5-10% of the 10,000 or so reported cases ends up being less than 1% of actual cases. How many people recover from Hepatitis B in the US? Virtually all of them How long does the vaccine last? That is unknown Special issues The duration of vaccine-induced immunity is uncertain but is certainly long term. Presently there is no recommendation for administration of booster doses (7). http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm What are the ways of contracting Hep B? You get hepatitis B by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of an infected person; for example, you can become infected by having sex or sharing needles with an infected person. A baby can get hepatitis B from an infected mother during childbirth. Hepatitis B is not spread through food or water or by casual contact. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm Transmission Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by either skin puncture or mucous membrane contact with human blood and other infectious body fluids. The virus is found in highest concentrations in blood (as high as 10 billion viruses per mL); 10 to 100 times lower concentrations are found in saliva, semen and vaginal fluid. The main ways HBV is spread are perinatal (mother to baby), child-to-child, during sexual contact, and through unsafe injections and transfusions. Hepatitis B virus is not spread by air, food, or water. Spread of HBV from mother to baby usually happens at the time the baby is born. There is no evidence that HBV can be spread by breastfeeding. Spread of HBV from child-to-child accounts for most HBV infections worldwide. Child-to-child spread most likely happens as a result of contact of skin sores, small breaks in the skin, or mucous membranes with blood, skin sores, or perhaps saliva. Spread from inanimate objects, such as sharing of wash towels or toothbrushes, may also occur because HBV can survive for at least 7 days outside the body. Unsafe injection practices are a major source of HBV and other blood-borne pathogen (e.g., hepatitis C virus, human immuno-deficiency virus) transmission worldwide. In addition, blood transfusion can be a major source of HBV transmission in countries where the blood supply is not screened. Inadequate infection control practices, including reuse of contaminated medical or dental equipment, failure to use appropriate disinfection and sterilization practices for equipment and environmental surfaces, and improper use of multi-dose medication vials, can also result in transmission of HBV and other bloodborne pathogens. In addition, illicit injecting drug use is a common mode of HBV transmission in many countries. HBV is efficiently spread by sexual contact, which can account for a high proportion of hepatitis B cases among adolescents and adults in countries with a low and intermediate prevalence of HBV infection. In countries with a high prevalence of HBV infection, sexual transmission does not account for a high percentage of cases because most persons are already infected during childhood. http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm Who is at risk? One out of 20 people in the United States will get hepatitis B some time during their lives. Your risk is higher if you have sex with someone infected with HBV have sex with more than one partner are a man and have sex with a man live in the same house with someone who has lifelong HBV infection have a job that involves contact with human blood shoot drugs are a patient or work in a home for the developmentally disabled have hemophilia travel to areas where hepatitis B is common Your risk is also higher if your parents were born in Southeast Asia, Africa, the Amazon Basin in South America, the Pacific Islands, and the Middle East. If you are at risk for HBV infection, ask your health care provider about hepatitis B vaccine. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm Why is the vaccine given at birth/2 weeks? In 1991 EPI set targets for the introduction of hepatitis B vaccine into national immunization programmes. These targets, approved by the World Health Assembly in 1992, indicated that hepatitis B vaccine should be integrated into national immunization programmes in all countries with a prevalence of chronic HBV infection (HBsAg) of 8% or greater by 1995 and in all countries by 1997. In all countries, the most effective strategy is incorporation of hepatitis B vaccine into the routine infant immunization schedules. In 1994, the World Health Assembly, in it's Ninth General Programme of Work added a disease reduction target for hepatitis B, calling for an 80% decrease in the incidence of new chronic HBV infections in children by the year 2001. Priorities should be: 1. Routine infant hepatitis B vaccination. Routine vaccination of all infants as an integral part of the national immunization schedule should be the highest priority in all countries. In countries with a high endemicity of HBV infection (HBsAg prevalence ³8%), routine infant hepatitis B vaccination can rapidly reduce transmission because most chronic infections are acquired from spread either from mother to baby or from child-to-child. In countries with lower HBV endemicity, routine infant hepatitis B vaccination should also be the highest priority because a high proportion of chronic infections may be acquired during childhood in these countries; and many infections acquired during childhood occur among children born to mothers who are NOT infected with HBV. Thus, these infections would not be prevented by perinatal hepatitis B prevention programmes that screen pregnant women for HBsAg and provide post-exposure immunization for infants of HBsAg-positive mothers. http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm What are the components of the vaccine, and what are they for? What can happen if Niall gets Hep B? Disease HBV infection leads to one of three outcomes in man. An infected individual may die of fulminant hepatitis within days or weeks after onset of disease, may recover after symptomatic or asymptomatic infection and develop lifelong immunity, or may develop chronic infection, a persistent infection which usually lasts for life. The age of infection is the major factor in determining the outcome of HBV infection. Fewer than 10% of children under 5 years of age are sick when they first become infected, but 80%-90% of infants infected during the first year of life, and 30%-50% of children infected between 1-4 years of age develop chronic infection. By comparison, 30%-50% of adults are sick when they first become infected, but only 2%-5% develop chronic infection. http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm What percentage of people who get Hep B develop chronic Hepatitis B? Hepatitis B is a viral infection of the liver. More than two billion individuals alive today have been infected at some time in their lives with the hepatitis B virus (HBV) and approximately 350 million are chronically infected with this virus (1). These chronically infected persons are at high risk of serious illness and death from cirrhosis of the liver and liver cancer, diseases that kill about one million chronically infected persons per year worldwide. Liver cancer caused by HBV infection is one of the top three causes of cancer death in much of Africa, Asia, and the Pacific Basin. A safe and effective vaccine against hepatitis B has been available since 1982 - the first vaccine against cancer. WHO recommends that hepatitis B vaccine be included in routine infant immunization schedules for all children in all countries. http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm Note: 350M/2B= 0.000175% chance of chronic infection worldwide. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 http://www.909shot.com http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/hepatitisb.htm At 10:39 AM 05/09/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > Here is the list of questions I'm developing to learn more about the Hep B vaccine. I'm adding questions to it as I learn more but wonder if anyone has information (with references) in answer to any of these questions? > > How many newborns get Hepatitis B whose mothers aren't Hep B pos? none > > How many children who do not get Hep B from their mothers get it through household contact? few - it is sexually and blood transmitted and we are not talking a little cut here - we are talking sex, drugs, working in hospital with blood (and I never got it and had blood pouring all over me many times in ICUs and ER's) > > >What percentage develop life long immunity, what percentage die and what percentage develop Chronic Hep B? See stats in websites above > > > >How many people recover from Hepatitis B in the US? most see stats in websites above > > > >How long does the vaccine last? > You assume it works? If it does work, no one knows how long it lasts and no eviddence it works either >Special issues > >The duration of vaccine-induced immunity is uncertain but is certainly long term. Presently there is no recommendation for administration of booster doses (7). No it is not certain at all. > > >What are the ways of contracting Hep B? sex, IV drugs, receiving blood products, possibly contamination by blood such as working with medical emergencies (but I don't even believe that one - or the others for the most part) You have to realize the motivation for selling this vaccine. > > >You get hepatitis B by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of an infected person; for example, you can become infected by having sex or sharing needles with an infected person. A baby can get hepatitis B from an infected mother during childbirth. Easy to test the mother and still no reason to give the vaccine in my opinion. > >Hepatitis B is not spread through food or water or by casual contact. > >http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm > > > >Transmission > >Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by either skin puncture or mucous membrane contact with human blood and other infectious body fluids. The virus is found in highest concentrations in blood (as high as 10 billion viruses per mL); 10 to 100 times lower concentrations are found in saliva, semen and vaginal fluid. The main ways HBV is spread are perinatal (mother to baby), child-to-child, during sexual contact, and through unsafe injections and transfusions. Hepatitis B virus is not spread by air, food, or water. > What a joke - child to child contact - I ask you to find proof of that one. >Spread of HBV from mother to baby usually happens at the time the baby is born. There is no evidence that HBV can be spread by breastfeeding. > >Spread of HBV from child-to-child accounts for most HBV infections worldwide. Child-to-child spread most likely happens as a result of contact of skin sores, small breaks in the skin, or mucous membranes with blood, skin sores, or perhaps saliva. Spread from inanimate objects, such as sharing of wash towels or toothbrushes, may also occur because HBV can survive for at least 7 days outside the body. > >Unsafe injection practices are a major source of HBV and other blood-borne pathogen (e.g., hepatitis C virus, human immuno-deficiency virus) transmission worldwide. In addition, blood transfusion can be a major source of HBV transmission in countries where the blood supply is not screened. Inadequate infection control practices, including reuse of contaminated medical or dental equipment, failure to use appropriate disinfection and sterilization practices for equipment and environmental surfaces, and improper use of multi-dose medication vials, can also result in transmission of HBV and other bloodborne pathogens. In addition, illicit injecting drug use is a common mode of HBV transmission in many countries. > >HBV is efficiently spread by sexual contact, which can account for a high proportion of hepatitis B cases among adolescents and adults in countries with a low and intermediate prevalence of HBV infection. In countries with a high prevalence of HBV infection, sexual transmission does not account for a high percentage of cases because most persons are already infected during childhood. > >http://www.who.int/vaccines/intermediate/hepatitisb.htm > > > >Who is at risk? > >One out of 20 people in the United States will get hepatitis B some time during their lives. Your risk is higher if you AND HOW DO THEY KNOW THIS - bunch of lies. > > have sex with someone infected with HBV > have sex with more than one partner > are a man and have sex with a man > live in the same house with someone who has lifelong HBV infection > have a job that involves contact with human blood > shoot drugs > are a patient or work in a home for the developmentally disabled > have hemophilia > travel to areas where hepatitis B is common > >Your risk is also higher if your parents were born in Southeast Asia, Africa, the Amazon Basin in South America, the Pacific Islands, and the Middle East. > >If you are at risk for HBV infection, ask your health care provider about hepatitis B vaccine. > >http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm > > > >Why is the vaccine given at birth/2 weeks? TO sell vaccine, pure and simple - they have admitted they can't get prostitutes, IV drug users and gays so they will get your children and hope it works and hope it lasts and hope it doesn't kill them > >What are the components of the vaccine, and what are they for? I will post the insert > > > >What can happen if Niall gets Hep B? And what is the likelihood of that and again read http://www.909shot.com > > > >Disease > > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA moderator Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. 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Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Hi , we voiced our concern about the Hep B when my son was an infant. The ped said the vaccine was perfectly safe. When we pushed the issue, he seemed to be angered and said he has a patient right now who is dying of Hep B. Scared the crap out of us basically. Here is a link on Hep B from our site. http://users.adelphia.net/~cdc/VaccineInfo.htm#HepB > What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and > the reason their baby needs it? > > > > From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and > sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason > that MD's give for it? They must say something other then > these two ways of infection. > > > > And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it > more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the > symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of > a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the > wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific. > > > > > I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't > have time to read all the data. But then again, it is > overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking > for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as > possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time. > I think it's important to do this. then once they're > convinced we can turn them into > > crusaders <smile> > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > *Your Health Is In Your Hands* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Hi , We were surprised with my daugther (and this was before we knew anything really) when the doc explained that she'd be vaccinated for hep B. When we decided to wait on it, and asked her why, she said that many babies die from Hepatitis. When we mentioned that it is passed from drug IV users and sex.. she said " Well, kids get it from living with adults that have it, or they can pick it up in a resteraunt (I found that one a little odd) and then they get to school and bite each other, and it is transmitted through biting " We still opted to " wait " but it did scare us a little. I think half the time they just make stuff up. I am saddened also by parents who say they don't have time. That's what I've been told by three of my friends recently, that they have no time to watch the tape, or read the stuff. I get sort of angry, like " you don't have TIME to protect your childs life????? " To me, to inject a child with something you haven't a clue about, simply because your doc said so... is verging on child abuse. Oh I was guilty of the same thing and Thank God my vaxed and partially vaxed children are alive and well, but also Thank God that I know bette now! Laurette > What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and > the reason their baby needs it? > > > > From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and > sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason > that MD's give for it? They must say something other then > these two ways of infection. > > > > And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it > more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the > symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of > a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the > wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific. > > > > > I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't > have time to read all the data. But then again, it is > overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking > for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as > possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time. > I think it's important to do this. then once they're > convinced we can turn them into > > crusaders <smile> > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > *Your Health Is In Your Hands* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Also i think men c can mutate into men b and has caused a death through a men c vaccination. A -- In Vaccinations , " Laurette " <laurettelynn@y...> wrote: > Hi , > > We were surprised with my daugther (and this was before we knew > anything really) when the doc explained that she'd be vaccinated for > hep B. When we decided to wait on it, and asked her why, she said > that many babies die from Hepatitis. When we mentioned that it is > passed from drug IV users and sex.. she said " Well, kids get it from > living with adults that have it, or they can pick it up in a > resteraunt (I found that one a little odd) and then they get to > school and bite each other, and it is transmitted through biting " > > We still opted to " wait " but it did scare us a little. I think half > the time they just make stuff up. > > > I am saddened also by parents who say they don't have time. That's > what I've been told by three of my friends recently, that they have > no time to watch the tape, or read the stuff. I get sort of angry, > like " you don't have TIME to protect your childs life????? " To me, > to inject a child with something you haven't a clue about, simply > because your doc said so... is verging on child abuse. Oh I was > guilty of the same thing and Thank God my vaxed and partially vaxed > children are alive and well, but also Thank God that I know bette > now! > > > > Laurette > > > > > What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and > > the reason their baby needs it? > > > > > > > > From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and > > sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason > > that MD's give for it? They must say something other then > > these two ways of infection. > > > > > > > > And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it > > more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the > > symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of > > a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the > > wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific. > > > > > > > > > > I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't > > have time to read all the data. But then again, it is > > overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking > > for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as > > possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time. > > I think it's important to do this. then once they're > > convinced we can turn them into > > > > crusaders <smile> > > > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > *Your Health Is In Your Hands* > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 When I worked at a county hospital before moving here, my supervisor told me that the reason the Hep B vax was being given to babies was because of the epidemic proportions it was being seen in adult patients. The majority of the patients that we worked with were either very poor or homeless, and many where I worked (I worked in an end-of-life unit with mostly AIDS/cancer patients) were also drug users. My supervisor explained to me that it is illegal to require that adults of a certain " lifestyle " be vaccinated, even though it is within that population that the most Hep B cases come from (drug users in this case). But you *can* pressure the government to make it mandatory for children to receive the vaccine a lot more easily. This was not from someone who was anti-vaccine. In fact, he urged me on many occasions to go through the 3-step vaccination process for Hep B because, since I was " employed " there (I was a volunteer for part of a religious internship - I worked about 24 hours per week there), it was free to me. He did not like the fact that each time it was brought up I told him that I discussed it with my doctor and decided that it was not in my best interest to take the vaccine. So, take it for what it's worth. I'm not willing to give his name or location because I don't know if he is still employed there and I don't have his permission to be sharing this story. It is not meant as anti-homeless or anti-poor or anti-drug users... it's just the population I worked with and the information he had received through going to department head meetings. Genevieve, South Dakota > What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and > the reason their baby needs it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 DD's first pediatritian told me that Hep B could be contracted by sharing a toothbrush (bloody gums) or a washcloth (claimed it can be transmitted by microscopic amounts of blood). I knew he was full of hooey but I often wonder how many ignorant parents got fish eyes and signed up for that vax. -- Aimee, Mom to Marah-Jade Born 09/17/03 vaccine free since 12/03 " Half of the modern drugs could well be thrown out of the window, except that the birds might eat them. Dr. Henry Fischer " What is it that MD's tell parents about the Hep B. vax and the reason their baby needs it? From my understanding Hep b is transmitted by having sex and sharing needles with infected people. What is the reason that MD's give for it? They must say something other then these two ways of infection. And also, just tell me again 2 or 3 side effects from it more specific then 'adverse event'. What exactly are the symptoms that occur prior to the serious illness or death of a baby shortly after receiving the shot? I'm down to the wire with one of my patients and really need to be specific. I'm saddened at the number of parents that say they don't have time to read all the data. But then again, it is overwhelming and mixed with the politics. So I'm looking for ways to simplify it with as little fear mongering as possible so people will then be stimulated to take the time. I think it's important to do this. then once they're convinced we can turn them into crusaders <smile> Thanks so much! *Your Health Is In Your Hands* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Thank you all for your replies to my questions about the Hep B vaccine. The info you posted is exactly what I needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Call me crazy, but i believe they are trying to kill us. Make us sick, make a lot of money and we die young = pharma makes a truck load of $$$$ and gov't saves on paying out social security; which they don't have anyway, because they've squandered it. Everybody wins and besides we need some form of population control, right? Sounds like the makings of a conspiracy therory to me. God help all the ignorant souls out there that are oblivious to this insanity. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Hi Jen, I come from a third world country originally. Hep B in my home country is most often transmitted from mother to child at birth. We have a huge extended family and everyone in our family has Hep B acquired as a child or infant. Not a single person in our family is affected by carrying Hep B. Which is the case for the vast majority of people who have Hep B - they are just that " carriers " who will never have an active infection. So we a better understanding of Hep B and it's " actually " risks is what you need to counter with. What do I have to do manage being a Hep B carrier? Bloodwork at my physical every year to measure how my liver is functioning and that's it. And should I ever have replicating Hep B DNA (active virus) it's a very manageable disease. Acute Illness: About 90% of adults clear the virus from their system after serious infection - which gives them life-long naturally acquired immunity. Chronic Infection: About 350 million people worldwide have long-term infection (>=5%). 15 to 40% advance to liver damage and liver disease. Death from Chronic Liver Disease, Disease from liver damage, and Cancer of the Liver: 15-25% risk, >1 million people per year worldwide (and I would suggest to you that in a country with an advanced medical system the likelihood of death from Hep B is much lower than this. Remember the above from: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/hcai-iamss/bbp-pts/hepatitis/hep_b_e.html are GLOBAL statistics. It annoys me to no end that our health agencies do not quote the number in Canada or the US that are affected. Argh. HTH, Tash On Nov 20, 2007 7:20 AM, jenjackcarver <jenjackcarver@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I sent an article to a friend the other day and this is what she > sent me back. How do i counter this? I don't know what to say to > her. Could anyone help me? > > She said: > " Here is a link to some excellent info on Hepatitis B. > > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/fact.htm > > I received this vaccine prior to entering Dental Hygiene school. As > a healthcare worker, I was exposed to blood and saliva every day and > used sharp instruments in patients mouths. There is no cure for Hep > B, and not all carriers are " drug using homosexuals " , as the article > states. (this is the article i sent her > http://www.hacres.com/healthtipArticles2007/522_3.asp > It is by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. ) > > Interestingly, there is a high percentage of children infected: > CDC estimates that one-third of the life-long hepatitis B virus > infections in the United States resulted from infections occurring > in infants and young children. " > > Help? > > jen c > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 See my webpages and you will find what you need Especiallyhep b facts most recover just fine http://www.wellwithin1.com/hepatitisb.htm > I sent an article to a friend the other day and this is what she > sent me back. How do i counter this? I don't know what to say to > her. Could anyone help me? > > She said: > " Here is a link to some excellent info on Hepatitis B. > > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/fact.htm > > I received this vaccine prior to entering Dental Hygiene school. As > a healthcare worker, I was exposed to blood and saliva every day and > used sharp instruments in patients mouths. There is no cure for Hep > B, and not all carriers are " drug using homosexuals " , as the article > states. (this is the article i sent her > http://www.hacres.com/healthtipArticles2007/522_3.asp > It is by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. ) > > > Interestingly, there is a high percentage of children infected: > CDC estimates that one-third of the life-long hepatitis B virus > infections in the United States resulted from infections occurring > in infants and young children. " > > Help? > > jen c > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 will silver and magnetic pulser help to get rid of hep b. what is the best way to use. please any comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I had my hep b vaccine 4 years ago. I didn't pay anything when I told the nurse that I am a dental nurse working in an NHS practice.Sent from my HTC----- Reply message -----From: " dr.nada athab " <dr_nadaalwarda@...> " " < >Subject: Re: Hep BDate: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 10:31 can any one answer me coz am going now 2 take the vaccine and they told me to pay 20 pounds 4 each dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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