RE: WHAT CAUSES GALLSTONES IN THE FIRST PLACE?

April 12, 2001

<< Also does anyone out there know what are the most powerful foods to

cleanse the liver out as quickly as possible? I was strongly advised

by my naturopath not to do the flush as he said it could cause a

stone to become lodged in a dangerous area.

Thanks,

le >>

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Hi, le,

Go to Dr. Cabot's website, www.liverdoctor.com. She has a pretty good

write-up about liver, and I believe she has something about gall bladders

problems, too. Her diet actually keeps you from producing gallstones, and

helps dissolve the ones that you've got.

Susie

April 12, 2001

le, you may want to check out www.liverdoctor.com . She has a very

good diet to cleanse the liver. Do you have large stones? laura

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Subject: WHAT CAUSES GALLSTONES IN THE FIRST PLACE?

> Hi!

>

> I pressed a wrong button so here goes again.

>

> I just wanted to know, if anyone out there might know what CAUSES

> gallstones in the first place so I can avoid those foods for the rest

> of my life?

>

> Also does anyone out there know what are the most powerful foods to

> cleanse the liver out as quickly as possible? I was strongly advised

> by my naturopath not to do the flush as he said it could cause a

> stone to become lodged in a dangerous area.

>

> Thanks,

>

> le.

>

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April 12, 2001

<< Is she meaning that we should drink milk??

laura >>

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Well, I don't know, but I can't anyway. I have a lactose problem with it,

and it creates loads of mucos in me. Plus, it's not on Dr. Cabot's diet.

susie

April 12, 2001

le;

The cause(s) of gallstones is believed to be from an over abundance of cholesterol in the bile salts. Now, that's as regards the cholesterol type of stone, calcified stones are a different story, about which there is no definitive answer. You can best look at this as the bile salts are the emulsifier of the waxy fat of the cholesterol much the same as a dish detergent is an emulsifier of the fats and grease of cooking. You can fill the sink with water and a certain amount of detergent, this will be able to help wash only just so many greasy things until it isn't effective any more. Once it's at an overload there will start to be coagulated grease at the outer edges of the sink. The Omega acids that you need to help in the emulsifying process of the bile salts are found in lecithin and taurine. They act like the dish detergent to keep the waxy cholesterol emulsified, but there is a saturation point and once that is reached a greasy sludge is precipitated from the bile salts when this happens you have then got the start of a means for stones to form as the moisture is removed and the wax is packed tighter.

The foods to eat are those that don't add to the formation of excess LDL cholesterol or trigiserides, and are those that help to make the good type of cholesterol. The foods that help to make the good cholesterol, HDL, tend to have such things as omega acids and amino acids. These you get from whole foods, not refined foods, or foods that have been deep fried. Foods such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and nuts provide these things and also work towards making the body more alkaline, which means it's alive. I have often suggested on this list that any one wanting to know about the liver and foods to eat to encourage it and the gallbladders health to get Dr. Cabot's book "The Liver Cleansing Diet", because it is full of very useful information regarding what foods to eat, and not to eat.

DaleDa_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: <wardox@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:57 AM

Subject: WHAT CAUSES GALLSTONES IN THE FIRST PLACE?

> Hi!> > I pressed a wrong button so here goes again.> > I just wanted to know, if anyone out there might know what CAUSES > gallstones in the first place so I can avoid those foods for the rest > of my life? > > Also does anyone out there know what are the most powerful foods to > cleanse the liver out as quickly as possible? I was strongly advised > by my naturopath not to do the flush as he said it could cause a > stone to become lodged in a dangerous area.> > Thanks,> > le.> > > Collected testimonials:> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. > Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe > URL to this page: gallstones > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself!> List Archives: http:///messages/gallstones> Web Site for more information: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/> http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/> Have a nice day ! > >

April 12, 2001

le;

The cause(s) of gallstones is believed to be from an over abundance of cholesterol in the bile salts. Now, that's as regards the cholesterol type of stone, calcified stones are a different story, about which there is no definitive answer. You can best look at this as the bile salts are the emulsifier of the waxy fat of the cholesterol much the same as a dish detergent is an emulsifier of the fats and grease of cooking. You can fill the sink with water and a certain amount of detergent, this will be able to help wash only just so many greasy things until it isn't effective any more. Once it's at an overload there will start to be coagulated grease at the outer edges of the sink. The Omega acids that you need to help in the emulsifying process of the bile salts are found in lecithin and taurine. They act like the dish detergent to keep the waxy cholesterol emulsified, but there is a saturation point and once that is reached a greasy sludge is precipitated from the bile salts when this happens you have then got the start of a means for stones to form as the moisture is removed and the wax is packed tighter.

The foods to eat are those that don't add to the formation of excess LDL cholesterol or trigiserides, and are those that help to make the good type of cholesterol. The foods that help to make the good cholesterol, HDL, tend to have such things as omega acids and amino acids. These you get from whole foods, not refined foods, or foods that have been deep fried. Foods such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and nuts provide these things and also work towards making the body more alkaline, which means it's alive. I have often suggested on this list that any one wanting to know about the liver and foods to eat to encourage it and the gallbladders health to get Dr. Cabot's book "The Liver Cleansing Diet", because it is full of very useful information regarding what foods to eat, and not to eat.

DaleDa_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: <wardox@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:57 AM

Subject: WHAT CAUSES GALLSTONES IN THE FIRST PLACE?

> Hi!> > I pressed a wrong button so here goes again.> > I just wanted to know, if anyone out there might know what CAUSES > gallstones in the first place so I can avoid those foods for the rest > of my life? > > Also does anyone out there know what are the most powerful foods to > cleanse the liver out as quickly as possible? I was strongly advised > by my naturopath not to do the flush as he said it could cause a > stone to become lodged in a dangerous area.> > Thanks,> > le.> > > Collected testimonials:> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. > Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe > URL to this page: gallstones > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself!> List Archives: http:///messages/gallstones> Web Site for more information: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/> http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/> Have a nice day ! > >

April 12, 2001

> I just wanted to know, if anyone out there might know what CAUSES

> gallstones in the first place so I can avoid those foods for the

rest of my life?

Dear le,

it would be easy, if gallstones would be cause " only " by diet.

Diet is, for many people most important factor, but there are

hundreds of other cofactors, take for example toxins: ( Amalgam,

Vaccination, Aluminum poisoning, Pesticides, Industrial toxins,

Excess of toxic metals in foods and water, ....), stress, unexpressed

emotionos (mostly unexpressed anger and madness ) karma, genetic

inheritage, blood type, lack of joy and laughter, lack of physicall

motion, use of computer...

When talking about diet, many dietary factors may contribute to

gallstones (and intrahepatic (liver) stones) formation.

Most important could be lack of good quality fat in diet, and lack of

good quality water.

Good quality fat is all natural fat in >>>liquid<<< form.

Liquid fats (oils) are: fish fat, milk fat (only from liquid milk

products, not from hard cheese), unrefined non-heated freshly

expeller-pressed plant oils (olive oil, flax seed oil, sesame oil,

thystel(safflower) oil, walnut oil, pumpkin seeds oil...)

(Good fresh oil is Udo's Choice, but is expensive).

Lack of water: Most people don't drink enough good quality water.

Read book:

" Your Body's Many Cries for Water " by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D.

Lack of most essential nutrients, or imballance of essential

nutrients may contribute to gallstones formation:

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diet/are_you_deficient.html

Other dietary factors statistically often seen are:

- modern diet - fried foods, industrial foods

- fasting - fasting may promote gallstones formation, if person keeps

too long without sufficient amount of fats, and without enough water

- lack of minerals, lack of unrefined ocean salt.

- vegan diet - proces of shifting from modern to vegan/vegetarian

diet " may " promote gallstones formation, especially if person have

more then 3 amalgam fyllings, and if person signifficantly lowers

his/her fat consumption.

( Though observed in many cases of vegetarian people, this can also

mean that person who first develope gallstones, is more likely to

naturally, instinctivly shift to vegetarian diet, to avoid symptoms

of poor animal fat digestion, and to improve health. I believe that

most vegetarian people who shifted diet because of health reasons,

have gallstones/liver stones, poor functioning liver, and most of

them have symptoms of mercury poisoning, either from amalgam or from

vaccination or from water, or both.)

There are hundreds of other possible factors, most of them more

explained on these web sites:

http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/cause.htm

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cause.html

http://www.liverdoctor.com/

http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

Hope this answers give more light to this question.

Agnes from Norway

April 12, 2001

<<Liquid fats (oils) are: fish fat, milk fat (only from liquid milk

products, not from hard cheese), >>

Is she meaning that we should drink milk??