Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 In a message dated 10/7/2006 3:03:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, lsavage@... writes: I have a gut feeling that Dercum's disease mightbe somehow related to a virus or bacteria that could be killedwith electro medicine. This website proposes a parasitical cause for Dercums. http://dercums_data.tripod.com/infection.html http://dercums_data.tripod.com/articles.html Could there be an infectious cause? Consider: Since virtually no one has looked to any other reason for the cause of these tumors, I propose to look at a different causal factor - one of infection. Not some rare virus, but something parasitical. This can include fungi, protozoa, parasites. This article explores several parasites than can cause lipoma, fibroma, sebaceous cysts. These are lesions that are subcutaneous (under the skin) and can also be all through the body. Since I believe we may be looking at an infectious disease -- in this case -- echinococcus - which may be located in a hydatid cyst, I recommend you read the following article from Spain: Rare Locations of Hydatid Disease. (Apparently an English translation)Read the article with special attention paid to the paragraph starting with "Cyst in soft tissues..."I urge us all to look in this direction and if you are having biopsy, the tissue should be sent to a lab which does DNA testing on the tumor - not just seeing if it is fatty or fibrotic - these can hide the causal pathogen. they must be looked for specifically. all biopsies are not examined for everything. most pathologists are just looking for cancer. after that, they dismiss anything they consider "lesser". this of course, is nonsense.in my opinion, I believe most of us have some form of granulomatous disease. Different infectious diseases fall under this umbrella. This includes tuberculosis, certain parasitical and infectious diseases which can be found embedded in fibrous capsules. Tumors in Deer I am including this article on this site. I found it while looking up fungus and mycotoxins and voilá - here came up these deer who died of lipomatosis from the fungus. I still think there is an infectious component to Dercum's Disease. This seemed such a good fit, I thought I would include it here. Lest you say, what does this have to do with humans, please note that the work on retroviruses which seemingly cause AIDS and other viral diseases, was found by the veterinary community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Hello everyone, My friend has Dercums Disease. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & lr= & q=dercums+disease & btnG=Search http://www.nunnie.com/dercums.html It is a VERY rare disease and I think something like only 10 thousandpeople in the world have been diagnosed with it. There is NOknown cure and the only treatment is pain medicine. Most peoplewho have the disease eventually die of a heart attack induced by thechronic pain. I am a complete " newbie " to " electro medicine " (except I know about " zappers " ). I have a gut feeling that Dercum's disease might besomehow related to a virus or bacteria that could be killed withelectro medicine. However, I am very confused by all of the different electro therapies out there... Rife, Beck, Multiple Wave Oscillators, etc. Is there an angel out there who might take the time to read up just atad on Dercums and make suggestions or recommendations I can pass on tomy friend? She will not eat right or drink enough water no matterhow much I suggest it. I'm hoping that if anyone on this listthinks like I do that there might be a viral or bacterial " root " tothis problem, we can attack it using the appropriate " electricaltherapy " device. Thanks in advance for any input/suggestions. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 If I proceeded with the " assumption " that it is some kind of parasite, virus, or bacteria at the root of Dercum's, which electric treatment would you guys recommend? I am really confused by the choices... Beck, MWOs, or Rife machines? Where should I go to learn more about all three of these treatment forms? Also, are these the main three categories or are there others (besides the " zapper " ). Thanks in advance! > > In a message dated 10/7/2006 3:03:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > lsavage@... writes: > > I have a gut feeling that Dercum's disease might > be somehow related to a virus or bacteria that could be killed > with electro medicine. > This website proposes a parasitical cause for Dercums. > > > > > _http://dercums_data.tripod.com/infection.html_ > (http://dercums_data.tripod.com/infection.html) > > _http://dercums_data.tripod.com/articles.html_ > (http://dercums_data.tripod.com/articles.html) > Could there be an infectious cause? > ____________________________________ > > Consider: > Since virtually no one has looked to any other reason for the cause of these > tumors, I propose to look at a different causal factor - one of infection. > Not some rare virus, but something parasitical. This can include fungi, > protozoa, parasites. > > _This article_ > (http://www.humanitarian.net/biodefense/fazdc/zdc1/zoores_cestode.html) explores several parasites than can cause lipoma, fibroma, > sebaceous cysts. These are lesions that are subcutaneous (under the skin) and can > also be all through the body. > Since I believe we may be looking at an infectious disease -- in this case > -- echinococcus - which may be located in a hydatid cyst, I recommend you read > the following article from Spain: > _Rare Locations of Hydatid Disease_ > (http://www.sc.ehu.es/scrwwwsr/kirurgia/Kirurgia2003/hidatidosis.htm) .. (Apparently an English translation) > Read the article with special attention paid to the paragraph starting with > " Cyst in soft tissues... " > > I urge us all to look in this direction and if you are having biopsy, the > tissue should be sent to a lab which does DNA testing on the tumor - not just > seeing if it is fatty or fibrotic - these can hide the causal pathogen. they > must be looked for specifically. all biopsies are not examined for > everything. most pathologists are just looking for cancer. after that, they > dismiss anything they consider " lesser " . this of course, is nonsense. > > in my opinion, I believe most of us have some form of granulomatous disease. > Different infectious diseases fall under this umbrella. This includes > tuberculosis, certain parasitical and infectious diseases which can be found > embedded in fibrous capsules. > _Tumors in Deer_ (http://www.vet.uga.edu/ivcvm/1999/Werther/werther.htm) > I am including this article on this site. I found it while looking up > fungus and mycotoxins and voilá - here came up these deer who died of lipomatosis > from the fungus. I still think there is an infectious component to Dercum's > Disease. This seemed such a good fit, I thought I would include it here. > Lest you say, what does this have to do with humans, please note that the work > on retroviruses which seemingly cause AIDS and other viral diseases, was > found by the veterinary community. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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