Re: Could electrification be done with a tens machine?

[Guest guest]

it's been found you don't really have to switch polarity more than every

couple minutes.

wires connected to a 6volt battery, polarity switching done by reversing

contact every few minutes to keep the skin from being irritated, does the

job. no real need for any circuit at all. more automatic and more

controllable are good, but the job can be done with a battery and a couple

pieces of wire.

> Could electrification be done with

> a tens machine?

>

>

> Ok, just a question...

>

> If you take off the general pads from the tens machines and make the

> same probes as the beck device has. Could you use a tens machine to

> electrify the blood?

>

> Or does one really have to build the circuit that is freely available.

>

> What is the difference bearing in mind the power out from a tens

> machine can be varied...

>

> ...

>

[Guest guest]

Bob,

So you could quit easily make an even simplier unit just using a 555

timer?

I thought the voltage had to be about 27 volts as Bob Beck stated,

surely 6 volts will not be enough unless.....

...

>

> it's been found you don't really have to switch polarity more than

every

> couple minutes.

> wires connected to a 6volt battery, polarity switching done by

reversing

> contact every few minutes to keep the skin from being irritated,

does the

> job. no real need for any circuit at all. more automatic and more

> controllable are good, but the job can be done with a battery and a

couple

> pieces of wire.

>

> > Could electrification be

done with

> > a tens machine?

> >

> >

> > Ok, just a question...

> >

> > If you take off the general pads from the tens machines and make

the

> > same probes as the beck device has. Could you use a tens machine

to

> > electrify the blood?

> >

> > Or does one really have to build the circuit that is freely

available.

> >

> > What is the difference bearing in mind the power out from a tens

> > machine can be varied...

> >

> > ...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i believe the frequencies of TENS machines are too high for best results in

this use. higher freqs decrease problems from not changing polarity but

also lessen kill power... i forget the term Forrest uses, but he's

one who has lots of experience with beck devices and been through the mill

with learning what not to do... transfection? maybe he'll fill us in a bit

on that if he's reading here.

http://www.geocities.com/a57ngel/club/about.html

Beck died before a whole lot of results were in. people have been working

with this ever since.

V's godzilla is as you describe, several 9v batterys with a current meter

and power pot, selectable for 4hz or approx 30sec polarity reversal. nice,

very exc value at 1/3 the price of a Sota (which is also very nice, much

more sleek) especially considering what a hassle it would be to collect the

parts and spend the time to make it yourself.

http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/details.htm

6 volts has proven to be plenty and apparently the best for many things.

those big square batterys for a floating lantern last near forever used this

way. i just installed a 1/8 " jack on my lantern to power my first one and

the lantern is still as bright as ever and usable for a lantern. i made a

little box with a DPDT switch to reverse polarity, 4-AAA's inside, a power

pot, and a jack to use external power (the lantern or my car's lighter

socket). i put velcro on it so i could wear it on my wrist or belt. looks

like a home-detention monitor and gets some attention in public.

my housemate got to liking it to electrify sore joints and bumps and bruised

(not caused by me although i'd like to) using " paddles " made from throwaway

foam paint brushes with 4 stainless cotter pins impregnated in each. it got

annoying to have to go upstairs and take it away from her and put up with

her whining so i bought one of V's and let her hang onto the other one most

of the time. V's box can also make CSilver if you get or make the

attachment since it has enough voltage.

the group you need to check out for this, reading into the Files and

Photos sections for case historys, instructions, creative ideas for

electrodes and uses, and searching message archives to answer all your

questions, is:

/

there's another, with more files and pics that's part of the same, just add

a " 2 " at the end.

> Could electrification be

> done with

> > > a tens machine?

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok, just a question...

> > >

> > > If you take off the general pads from the tens machines and make

> the

> > > same probes as the beck device has. Could you use a tens machine

> to

> > > electrify the blood?

> > >

> > > Or does one really have to build the circuit that is freely

> available.

> > >

> > > What is the difference bearing in mind the power out from a tens

> > > machine can be varied...

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

27 volts helps the voltage pass through the skin and into the

blood... Beck tested that and said 9v was too little to be effective.

Having said that a number of people including Royal Rife have said

that the underlying principle is so simple anyone can do it.

The suggestion is that just about any device works... but based on

Becks measurements you can say that some devices work better

because... and use that information to make more effecive devices

(like using higher voltages).

:-)

> >

> > it's been found you don't really have to switch polarity more

than

> every

> > couple minutes.

> > wires connected to a 6volt battery, polarity switching done by

> reversing

> > contact every few minutes to keep the skin from being irritated,

> does the

> > job. no real need for any circuit at all. more automatic and

more

> > controllable are good, but the job can be done with a battery and

a

> couple

> > pieces of wire.

> >

> > > Could electrification be

> done with

> > > a tens machine?

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok, just a question...

> > >

> > > If you take off the general pads from the tens machines and

make

> the

> > > same probes as the beck device has. Could you use a tens

machine

> to

> > > electrify the blood?

> > >

> > > Or does one really have to build the circuit that is freely

> available.

> > >

> > > What is the difference bearing in mind the power out from a tens

> > > machine can be varied...

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> >

>