Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 I think there was a post on here a while back saying that the aluminium whatever I said it was, phosphate? in vaccines is NOT the same as aliminium and is fine? does anyone remember that? Re: vaccine ingredients Vaccine Ingredients Contaminants [All of these are POISONS, injected directly into the body.] " (Vaccine ingredients) 1. Micro-organisms, either bacteria or viruses, thought to be causing certain infectious diseases and which the vaccine is supposed to prevent. These are whole-cell proteins or just the broken-cell protein envelopes, and are called antigens. 2. Chemical substances which are supposed to enhance the immune response to the vaccine, called adjuvants. 3. Chemical substances which act as preservatives and tissue fixatives, which are supposed to halt any further chemical reactions and putrefaction (decomposition or multiplication) of the live or attenuated (or killed) biological constituents of the vaccine. " --Viera Scheibner adjuvants Aluminium Squalene Freund's (FCA) MF59 preservatives: Alcohols Neomycin 2-phenoxyethanol (2-PE) Streptomycin Polymyxin B Mercury Formaldehyde Stabiliser/solvent: Tween 80 Bovine Human fetal cells Gelatin Methiolate Monkey kidney cells Msg Phenol Contaminants Allergy reactions Allergies Anaphylaxis Articles Vaccine ingredients 1 Vaccine ingredients 2 Quotes Vaccines used to induce disease in animals -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 I think there was a post on here a while back saying that the aluminium whatever I said it was, phosphate? in vaccines is NOT the same as aliminium and is fine? does anyone remember that? Re: vaccine ingredients Vaccine Ingredients Contaminants [All of these are POISONS, injected directly into the body.] " (Vaccine ingredients) 1. Micro-organisms, either bacteria or viruses, thought to be causing certain infectious diseases and which the vaccine is supposed to prevent. These are whole-cell proteins or just the broken-cell protein envelopes, and are called antigens. 2. Chemical substances which are supposed to enhance the immune response to the vaccine, called adjuvants. 3. Chemical substances which act as preservatives and tissue fixatives, which are supposed to halt any further chemical reactions and putrefaction (decomposition or multiplication) of the live or attenuated (or killed) biological constituents of the vaccine. " --Viera Scheibner adjuvants Aluminium Squalene Freund's (FCA) MF59 preservatives: Alcohols Neomycin 2-phenoxyethanol (2-PE) Streptomycin Polymyxin B Mercury Formaldehyde Stabiliser/solvent: Tween 80 Bovine Human fetal cells Gelatin Methiolate Monkey kidney cells Msg Phenol Contaminants Allergy reactions Allergies Anaphylaxis Articles Vaccine ingredients 1 Vaccine ingredients 2 Quotes Vaccines used to induce disease in animals -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Can you send me a copy PLEASE?? Many thanks > > Hi, > > My brother and sister-in-law have a two month old baby due for vaccination > > and are obviously worried about autism cos of our Tom. I told my sister in > > law that mercury was no longer in the vaccines but that she should get a > > list of ingredients. The only one that sounded suspicious was Aluminium > > phosphate. Does anyone know anything about this? I also said that if I was > > her I would wait until the baby was much older but she's not sure at all. > > Would anyone else advise this? Any personal opinions on when/ how/ whether > > people should vaccinate their babies gratefully received. > > Thanks, > > Sara x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Can you send me a copy PLEASE?? Many thanks > > Hi, > > My brother and sister-in-law have a two month old baby due for vaccination > > and are obviously worried about autism cos of our Tom. I told my sister in > > law that mercury was no longer in the vaccines but that she should get a > > list of ingredients. The only one that sounded suspicious was Aluminium > > phosphate. Does anyone know anything about this? I also said that if I was > > her I would wait until the baby was much older but she's not sure at all. > > Would anyone else advise this? Any personal opinions on when/ how/ whether > > people should vaccinate their babies gratefully received. > > Thanks, > > Sara x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I know of one child developing Autism avfter having Measles - MMR virus from her vaccinated sister - she did not have the MMR herself, If anyone get a virus infection depends on lots of different circumstances, where nutritional factors obviously play a part, so you cannot tell whether an unvaccinated wil get virus infection or not, but of course there is a possibility of immunization, this ought then show up in blood tests. Geir FlatabøOn 5/21/06, Sass and Rem <Moroza-@...> wrote: Sorry, I seem to be posting tons of questions lately. My brother and sister in law with the baby are now asking whether, if (my) Tom has measles in his gut, then won't their unvaccinated baby catch them from him? I said I think it wouldn't be a full-blown contagious measles but that I'd try and find out. Does anyone out there know? Or know where I could find out? S x Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for alkalinity Good price here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Natasa > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > thanks > DISCLAIMER No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I know of one child developing Autism avfter having Measles - MMR virus from her vaccinated sister - she did not have the MMR herself, If anyone get a virus infection depends on lots of different circumstances, where nutritional factors obviously play a part, so you cannot tell whether an unvaccinated wil get virus infection or not, but of course there is a possibility of immunization, this ought then show up in blood tests. Geir FlatabøOn 5/21/06, Sass and Rem <Moroza-@...> wrote: Sorry, I seem to be posting tons of questions lately. My brother and sister in law with the baby are now asking whether, if (my) Tom has measles in his gut, then won't their unvaccinated baby catch them from him? I said I think it wouldn't be a full-blown contagious measles but that I'd try and find out. Does anyone out there know? Or know where I could find out? S x Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for alkalinity Good price here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Natasa > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > thanks > DISCLAIMER No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 You could tell her that vaccinating her baby won't stop it catching anything that's going round. I read recently that when a load of students at a midlands university were catching mumps and all had to have an MMR vaccination, the vast majority had already had the MMR vaccination before, (according to one of the students who didn't vaccinate) . Miles. Sass and Rem wrote: > > Sorry, I seem to be posting tons of questions lately. My brother and > sister in law with the baby are now asking whether, if (my) Tom has > measles in his gut, then won’t their unvaccinated baby catch them from > him? I said I think it wouldn’t be a full-blown contagious measles but > that I’d try and find out. Does anyone out there know? Or know where I > could find out? > > S x > > > > Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for > alkalinity > > Good price here: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ > a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Natasa > > > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 To add to that the recent spate of chickenpox that broke out in a primary school in usa - 98% (or thereabouts) had been vaccinated for it! And it in fact it was speculated that the chickenpox that went around was the vaccine strain not wild - I know of a parent whose child recently had mumps - had both rounds of mmr - but dr denied it was that once he knew the child had been vaccinated! Nikki Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for > alkalinity > > Good price here: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ > a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Natasa > > > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 To add to that the recent spate of chickenpox that broke out in a primary school in usa - 98% (or thereabouts) had been vaccinated for it! And it in fact it was speculated that the chickenpox that went around was the vaccine strain not wild - I know of a parent whose child recently had mumps - had both rounds of mmr - but dr denied it was that once he knew the child had been vaccinated! Nikki Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for > alkalinity > > Good price here: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ > a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Natasa > > > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 To add to that the recent spate of chickenpox that broke out in a primary school in usa - 98% (or thereabouts) had been vaccinated for it! And it in fact it was speculated that the chickenpox that went around was the vaccine strain not wild - I know of a parent whose child recently had mumps - had both rounds of mmr - but dr denied it was that once he knew the child had been vaccinated! Nikki Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for > alkalinity > > Good price here: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ > a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Natasa > > > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or > > does anyone know cheap place to order them? > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 An analysis was made of the vaccination history of US college students who caught mumps a few months ago. 78% of those who caught mumps had had ALL the recommended doses of MMR. My son's 4 year old cousin had mumps recently - he'd had the MMR. Margaret Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for >> alkalinity >> >> Good price here: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ >> a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> >> Natasa >> >> > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or >> > does anyone know cheap place to order them? >> > thanks >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >> advice. >> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified >> practitioner. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 An analysis was made of the vaccination history of US college students who caught mumps a few months ago. 78% of those who caught mumps had had ALL the recommended doses of MMR. My son's 4 year old cousin had mumps recently - he'd had the MMR. Margaret Re: Where to buy PH/litmus strips for >> alkalinity >> >> Good price here: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alkalive-pH-test-Stix-Strips-Paper-for-urine-saliv\ >> a_W0QQitemZ9521369848QQcategoryZ67589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> >> Natasa >> >> > Want to test my sons pH. Can you get testing strips from the NHS or >> > does anyone know cheap place to order them? >> > thanks >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >> advice. >> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified >> practitioner. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I've looked at some of these links you guys posted on vax ingredients. The CDC site even catergorizes some ingredients as poison and lists harmful effects. So I don't understand how they can claim to the safety of vaccines when there are what they even call poisons in them. I also noticed the human diploid cells it lists a specific 14 week old fetus...so is it all just from one? > > http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html > > Item presented in table format so will not cut and paste. Lots of info > here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 see my webpages http://www.wellwithin1.com/abortedtissue.htm At 08:09 AM 10/15/2007 -0000, you wrote: >I've looked at some of these links you guys posted on vax ingredients. >The CDC site even catergorizes some ingredients as poison and lists >harmful effects. So I don't understand how they can claim to the >safety of vaccines when there are what they even call poisons in them. > >I also noticed the human diploid cells it lists a specific 14 week old >fetus...so is it all just from one? > > > >> >> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html >> >> Item presented in table format so will not cut and paste. Lots of >info >> here.> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm NEXT CLASSES start by email October 17 & 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=38498 http://www.cogforlife.org/vaticanresponse.htm Tash On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Molly <lachlan-molly@...> wrote: > Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this > a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show > others? > Thanks, > Molly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 At 06:24 PM 5/26/2008, you wrote: >Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this >a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show >others? >Thanks, >Molly Yes http://www.wellwithin1.com/abortedtissue.htm I encourage all to visit my webpages as suggested when you all join to see what is there! Thanks Sheri listowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hi If you will send me a self addressd  stamped envelope I will send you a fact sheet which lists human and animal cells. From aborted fetal tissue and human albumin. A donation of one dollar would be appreciated. Jim O' Box 78 Wheeler In 46393 Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D. Shots in body's are dangerous. Re: Vaccine ingredients At 06:24 PM 5/26/2008, you wrote: >Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this >a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show >others? >Thanks, >Molly Yes http://www.wellwith in1.com/abortedt issue.htm I encourage all to visit my webpages as suggested when you all join to see what is there! Thanks Sheri listowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 http://www.trackingvaccinations.com/ Great site! > > Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this > a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show > others? > Thanks, > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Anytime you see the word " Human Diploid Cells " listed as an ingredient, they are derrived from aborted human fetal tissue. On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Molly <lachlan-molly@...> wrote: > Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this > a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show > others? > Thanks, > Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Thanks Jim. I will do that this week! Molly > >Is it true that some vaccines where " grown " in fetal tissue or is this > >a myth? If so, can anyone tell me where I can read this info and show > >others? > >Thanks, > >Molly > > Yes > http://www.wellwith in1.com/abortedt issue.htm > > I encourage all to visit my webpages as suggested when you all join > to see what is there! > Thanks > Sheri > listowner > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 If certain vaccines include aborted fetal tissue, and you are strongly pro-life due to religious beliefs, could you claim a religious exemption to those vaccines? Melinda C. in Mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Good question. I live in Mass. I've got a 3 month old son, and I'm already starting to wonder how I'm going to get any necessary exemptions... On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM, spanishmiss430 <spanishmiss430@...> wrote: > If certain vaccines include aborted fetal tissue, and you are strongly > pro-life due to religious beliefs, could you claim a religious > exemption to those vaccines? > Melinda C. in Mass. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Oh good point, I am sure that would qualify as a religious exemption. Molly > > If certain vaccines include aborted fetal tissue, and you are strongly > pro-life due to religious beliefs, could you claim a religious > exemption to those vaccines? > Melinda C. in Mass. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 , Where is Mass. are you? =) I have a friend in Haverhill who used the fetal tissue reasoning to get out of vaccines...she just wasn't going to do anymore because her son has autism but she needed an excuse and she's Catholic, so the school accepted this. Not sure if every district would swallow it but it's a thought. Let's just go to Maine and enjoy a philosophical exemption! =) Melinda C. in Mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 I've researched this as it pertains to the Catholic faith, as they are so pro-life... if you are enrolling in a Catholic school, the only " religious " exemptions a Catholic school is *required* to accept are to the vaccines that contain human diploid cells, unless there is an alternative available that does not contain the cells. The other vaccines are still considered for the " greater good " and Catholic schools don't have to allow those exemptions, according to Vatican rules. I'll dig up the websites for reference soon, baby is crying at the moment! LOL On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM, spanishmiss430 <spanishmiss430@...> wrote: > > If certain vaccines include aborted fetal tissue, and you are strongly > pro-life due to religious beliefs, could you claim a religious > exemption to those vaccines? > Melinda C. in Mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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