Re: Stones still showing up on ultrasound after flushes

[Guest guest]

Ziggy, ditto here. I have 3 calcified after 15 flushes. I haven't done a

flush since October. I am totally burnt out on them. My gastro said it is

fine to have stones IF you don't have attacks. laura

----- Original Message -----

From: " Angel " <anglstar@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 9:32 AM

Subject: Stones still showing up on ultrasound after flushes

> " Ziggy Strohbach " wrote:

> I was very disappointed as the results are identical to the results of the

> X-ray and ultrasound done last year September.

> Ziggy, You are not the only one to have this experience. The same thing

> happens to me all the time I have done many flushes about 15 and each time

I

> go for an ultrasound about once a year, the calcified stones are still

there

> and they show up on the x-ray ultrsound. So I think what we see coming

out

> are only the soft cholesterol stones and sludge, but the big hard

calcified

> ones remain there constantly, to cause trouble again in the future.

> There is only relief for about 3 months after the flush and then sludge

> builds up again until you do another flush for relief. This has been my

> pattern and experience for about the last 3 years, as I have been flushing

> since 1998, and I too still have these calcified stones still.

> Some fortunate ones have gotten rid of theirs completely, but many others

of

> us have not gotten rid of these calcified stones and still have to live

with

> them.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

My husband had 2 gallstones show up on his ultrasound. This was after

he had done one flush. He did the flush using just 200ml olive oil

and 100 ml lemon juice.

He did two more flushes and got rid of a lot of soft stones, but not

calcified ones. He had another bad attack of pain. He then decided to

go all out and did three flushes on three consecutive nights. My

theory being that by doing the three flushes together he would soften

the hard stones enough to pass them through.

The first flush he only got one very small one. The second flush on

the second night, the next morning he got a couple of small ones. The

third flush on the third night, the next morning he got some very

large calcified ones through. Some of them were about the size of

large marbles.

My point here is that perhaps those of you who haven't passed the

hard calcium stones may need to do consecutive flushes to pass them.

Charmaine

> > I was very disappointed as the results are identical to the

results of the

> > X-ray and ultrasound done last year September.

> > Ziggy, You are not the only one to have this experience. The same

thing

> > happens to me all the time I have done many flushes about 15 and

each time

> I

> > go for an ultrasound about once a year, the calcified stones are

still

> there

> > and they show up on the x-ray ultrsound. So I think what we see

coming

> out

> > are only the soft cholesterol stones and sludge, but the big hard

> calcified

> > ones remain there constantly, to cause trouble again in the

future.

> > There is only relief for about 3 months after the flush and then

sludge

> > builds up again until you do another flush for relief. This has

been my

> > pattern and experience for about the last 3 years, as I have been

flushing

> > since 1998, and I too still have these calcified stones still.

> > Some fortunate ones have gotten rid of theirs completely, but

many others

> of

> > us have not gotten rid of these calcified stones and still have

to live

> with

> > them.

> >

> >

> >

> > Collected testimonials:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Charmaine, is he going to have another ultrasound for proof? That would be

very encouraging! laura

----- Original Message -----

From: <pegasusporter@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:40 PM

Subject: Re: Stones still showing up on ultrasound after

flushes

> Hi,

>

> My husband had 2 gallstones show up on his ultrasound. This was after

> he had done one flush. He did the flush using just 200ml olive oil

> and 100 ml lemon juice.

> He did two more flushes and got rid of a lot of soft stones, but not

> calcified ones. He had another bad attack of pain. He then decided to

> go all out and did three flushes on three consecutive nights. My

> theory being that by doing the three flushes together he would soften

> the hard stones enough to pass them through.

> The first flush he only got one very small one. The second flush on

> the second night, the next morning he got a couple of small ones. The

> third flush on the third night, the next morning he got some very

> large calcified ones through. Some of them were about the size of

> large marbles.

>

> My point here is that perhaps those of you who haven't passed the

> hard calcium stones may need to do consecutive flushes to pass them.

>

>

> Charmaine

>

>

>

> > > I was very disappointed as the results are identical to the

> results of the

> > > X-ray and ultrasound done last year September.

> > > Ziggy, You are not the only one to have this experience. The same

> thing

> > > happens to me all the time I have done many flushes about 15 and

> each time

> > I

> > > go for an ultrasound about once a year, the calcified stones are

> still

> > there

> > > and they show up on the x-ray ultrsound. So I think what we see

> coming

> > out

> > > are only the soft cholesterol stones and sludge, but the big hard

> > calcified

> > > ones remain there constantly, to cause trouble again in the

> future.

> > > There is only relief for about 3 months after the flush and then

> sludge

> > > builds up again until you do another flush for relief. This has

> been my

> > > pattern and experience for about the last 3 years, as I have been

> flushing

> > > since 1998, and I too still have these calcified stones still.

> > > Some fortunate ones have gotten rid of theirs completely, but

> many others

> > of

> > > us have not gotten rid of these calcified stones and still have

> to live

> > with

> > > them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Collected testimonials:

> > > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think that he will have another ultrasound, but not until April. At

the moment he is just eating carefully and taking Echinacea, Golden

Seal and Marshmallow for healing. I will post the results when he

does have another ultrasound.

Charmaine

In gallstones@y..., " robert mcmullan " <mcfam12@m...> wrote:

> Charmaine, is he going to have another ultrasound for proof? That

would be

> very encouraging! laura

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <pegasusporter@y...>

> <gallstones@y...>

> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:40 PM

> Subject: Re: Stones still showing up on ultrasound

after

> flushes

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > My husband had 2 gallstones show up on his ultrasound. This was

after

> > he had done one flush. He did the flush using just 200ml olive oil

> > and 100 ml lemon juice.

> > He did two more flushes and got rid of a lot of soft stones, but

not

> > calcified ones. He had another bad attack of pain. He then

decided to

> > go all out and did three flushes on three consecutive nights. My

> > theory being that by doing the three flushes together he would

soften

> > the hard stones enough to pass them through.

> > The first flush he only got one very small one. The second flush

on

> > the second night, the next morning he got a couple of small ones.

The

> > third flush on the third night, the next morning he got some very

> > large calcified ones through. Some of them were about the size of

> > large marbles.

> >

> > My point here is that perhaps those of you who haven't passed the

> > hard calcium stones may need to do consecutive flushes to pass

them.

> >

> >

> > Charmaine

> >

> >

> >

> > > > I was very disappointed as the results are identical to the

> > results of the

> > > > X-ray and ultrasound done last year September.

> > > > Ziggy, You are not the only one to have this experience. The

same

> > thing

> > > > happens to me all the time I have done many flushes about 15

and

> > each time

> > > I

> > > > go for an ultrasound about once a year, the calcified stones

are

> > still

> > > there

> > > > and they show up on the x-ray ultrsound. So I think what we

see

> > coming

> > > out

> > > > are only the soft cholesterol stones and sludge, but the big

hard

> > > calcified

> > > > ones remain there constantly, to cause trouble again in the

> > future.

> > > > There is only relief for about 3 months after the flush and

then

> > sludge

> > > > builds up again until you do another flush for relief. This

has

> > been my

> > > > pattern and experience for about the last 3 years, as I have

been

> > flushing

> > > > since 1998, and I too still have these calcified stones still.

> > > > Some fortunate ones have gotten rid of theirs completely, but

> > many others

> > > of

> > > > us have not gotten rid of these calcified stones and still

have

> > to live

> > > with

> > > > them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Collected testimonials:

> > > > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> > > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe

to

> > the

> > > Gallstones group on 's groups.

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> > FOR

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> > > >

> > > >