Fevers

February 17, 1999

In a message dated 2/17/99 5:41:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mkpeters@... writes:

<< Or do you

mean you would NEVER treat it? My dd gets incredible fevers, up to 106

(even tho I have read that the body can't go above 105!). When she gets

above 103, she'll generally start vomiting. So, I try to lower the fever

once it gets to 103. I figure hot is hot. Would a fever of 105 or 106

being killing more germs than a fever of 102? >>

Whoa!! That is high. Doesn't she have febrile seizures after 105?? Febrile

seizures are not dangerous and they help regulate body temperature. Yes, the

higher the fever the faster the immune defense systems are mobilized. At a

maintained 106-107, however, death can easily occur or brain damage. I agree

with you, I would begin lowering body temperature between 104 and 105...but

only moderately. Truly, it would depend on the situation. 103 is a good,

safe, temperature to fight off disease IMO. Lowering it would only lower

immune response. While the immune system does run faster at extraordinarily

high temps. the rest of the body's systems do too, which runs the risk of over

stressing the body which could even lead to shock. On the other hand, if my

daughter contracted, God forbid, Ebola or something especially vile I would

probably let nature do what she does best and risk the ultra high fever. It

is all about situation, you know? Well, I could babble about this forever,

but I do want to restate the fact that fever is the body's natural defense

against a biological assault.

~~G

BTW, a good way to maintain a temp of 103 without running the risk of lowering

it too much is to take warm ginger baths. If you give herbals or homeopathics

orally then there is a good chance that you could lower her temp. to around

normal. Also, why does she get these fevers? I believe in the " fever rule "

only for normal, healthy individuals.

February 17, 1999

In a message dated 2/17/99 4:23:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

austinsmom@... writes:

<< My

son had one of 101-102 for several days when he was 15 months >>

I agree. You have to weigh the risks accordingly. I do not think that I

would allow a child under four to maintain a high temp for more than 48 hrs.

That is actually one of my questions about measles. With measles, a temp. can

be high for several days, right? I have no experience in treating it and I

would really like to discuss this with someone who has. I am wondering what

the impact is on disease duration if the fever is lowered after 48 hrs.

~~G

February 17, 1999

I don't have a problem with reducing a fever naturally, because

homeopathics in general help to strengthen the whole system. And lets

face it, sometimes kids need to have it lowered because they're SO

miserable, especially if it's high and effecting them significantly. My

son had one of 101-102 for several days when he was 15 months. He was

just plain miserable, llistless and wouldn't even nurse, which wasn't

good for him. When I lowered it, at least he felt like nursing,

otherwise he could have gotten dehydrated. But I totally understand

fevers are the body's defense mechanism working and shouldn't be

tampered with right away and " just to get it lower " .

~~

February 17, 1999

I agree with you about the fevers! My family members who have small

kids the minute their is a fever, give the kids Motrin or children's Advil. I

get the feeling that they think they have " cured " the fever because they have

brought it down. All they have done is suppressed it, which may make the

sickness last even longer!

Just my 2 cents... Kerin:)

February 17, 1999

laura, firstly i'd suggest watch the diet! no meat, no dairy, just

sound plain veggies, no processed food, buy whatever you can in

organic form! with regard to reducing fever, there are loads of

homeopathic 'fever reducers', but that entirely depends on her/his

symptoms: chamomilla, belladonna, pulsatilla, carb. calc.,

lycopodium... look into it, there are a lot of books about homeopathy.

a very old fever reducer is to wrap wet cool towels around their calf,

it does help bring the fever down.

hope this helps. if you need more info, e-mail me.

love and light

claudia

---the LaRocca's <larocca@...> wrote:

>

> I feel like a terrible mother now!! Compared to everyone I know,

I'm the most " anti-drugs " for my kids, but WOW do I have a lot to

learn! Anyway, my specific concerns for the moment are 2. One is

fevers. My daughter has epilepsy. She's 18 months and a fever could

be a terrible thing for her. I know febrile convulsions are not so

bad, but with children with epilepsy, from what I've gathered, they

can be serious. I never used to lower a low grade fever, just if they

were burning up, but now her neurologist says I should be concerned

about low grade fevers too, because they can rise so quickly. I've

given her Tempra. Any suggestions on alternatives and where can I

find out if they are compatible with her anti convulsants (I won't

consider taking her off until the seizures are under control -- then

I'll investigate other options for that).

>

> Question 2 is that both kids are prone to lung infections. I nursed

my son for 18 months, my daughter is still nursing, and no one smokes.

But they get them pretty frequently (I'm the same way). I'm most

concerned with my daughter (fevers again, plus just being sick

increases seizures). Any alternatives to antibiotics? Any ideas on

how to help them not get sick to begin with???

>

> Thanks for the help.

>

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<DIV>I feel like a terrible mother now!!

Compared to everyone I know, I'm the most " anti-drugs " for my kids,

but WOW do I have a lot to learn! Anyway, my specific concerns for the

moment are 2. One is fevers. My daughter has epilepsy. She's

18 months and a fever could be a terrible thing for her. I know

febrile

convulsions are not so bad, but with children with epilepsy, from what

I've

gathered, they can be serious. I never used to lower a low grade

fever,

just if they were burning up, but now her neurologist says I should be

concerned

about low grade fevers too, because they can rise so quickly. I've

given

her Tempra. Any suggestions on alternatives and where can I find out

if

they are compatible with her anti convulsants (I won't consider taking

her off

until the seizures are under control -- then I'll investigate other

options for

that).</DIV>

<DIV>Question 2 is that both kids are prone

to lung

infections. I nursed my son for 18 months, my daughter is still

nursing,

and no one smokes. But they get them pretty frequently (I'm the same

way). I'm most concerned with my daughter (fevers again, plus just

being

sick increases seizures). Any alternatives to antibiotics? Any ideas

on how to help them not get sick to begin with???</DIV>

<DIV>Thanks for the help.</DIV>

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February 18, 1999

In a message dated 2/17/99 11:43:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

larocca@... writes:

<< I nursed my son for 18 months, my daughter is still nursing, and no one

smokes. But they get them pretty frequently (I'm the same way). I'm most

concerned with my daughter (fevers again, plus just being sick increases

seizures). Any alternatives to antibiotics? Any ideas on how to help them

not get sick to begin with???

Thanks for the help.

>>

Has your house been tested for radon??? What about asbestos? Lung infections

are not normal. I suggest that you get an experienced homeopath. There are

many. many ways to treat fever both homeopathically or herbally. If they are

chronic, and because it is dangerous for your daughter to experience fever,

then I suggest that you treat the underlying problem homeopathically. Perhaps

a constitutional remedy and something specific for the lungs. Also, you could

have something homeopathically on hand for fever when and if it reaches above

101...there really is no danger of febrile seizure at that low temp, but I do

not know about your daughter's case--- obviously you know best. Warm ginger

baths will temporarily maintain body temperature while you are waiting for an

herbal or homeopathic to work. In your particular case, I strongly suggest

the holistic homeopathic approach. It would be in your best interests to

figure out and treat the underlying problem. Have you considered dairy if the

cause is not environmental? Just for your information, there are no real

" antibiotics " in homeopathy, the remedies actually boost the immune system.

The same thing holds true for most herbals (there are many exceptions like

garlic and tea tree oil) including echinacea and goldenseal. Personally, I

think that you should read, research and come up with a comprehensive plan for

health, rather than treating symptoms. I can not suggest a particular book, I

suggest buying (or taking out of the library) several different ones, as well

as, a basic herb book which describes many different herbs and their

properties and also a homeopathic remedy book. (It will help you decide which

remedy will work with questions like Is the patient clingy and afraid to be

alone? Is the cough better or worse in a warm room? etc. etc.)

If you have any specific questions I am sure that you can get lots of info.

from all of us here. ))

~~G

PS- I am so happy to be a part of this group, I never expected to find so many

with views similar to my own. I think that I am going to encounter quite a

few learning experiences here.

February 18, 1999

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To reduce fevers also you can put cool towels/washclothes on the pressure

points (arm pits, groin) where the big arteries are. Ann

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