Re: Disturbing Info on Ionic Silver

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could u please cite the source of the article.onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote: Hey gang, I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the article states: 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes

neutralized: When "ionic" silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes useless. This is "why" one receives variable results or no result from "ionic" silver. NB: The only type of Silver product that "will remain" to kill pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution of actual silver particles. Regards, Carol Ann ~ Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008.

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I can't recall the exact site because I copied and pasted then closed

the window, but I found a similar site that states the same thing:

http://www.invive.com/pop_new.html

I hope it's not true. There's so much controversy over ionic and

non-ionic silver. It seems to help my sinuses somewhat so it can't be

all that bad!

-- In , Carol Ann

<saffireskyes@...> wrote:

>

> could u please cite the source of the article.

>

> onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote:

Hey gang,

>

> I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is

> NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the

> Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the

> article states:

>

> 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the

> bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more

> than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When " ionic "

> silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same

> thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high

> Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and

> Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the

> Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no

> value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a

> silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes

> useless. This is " why " one receives variable results or no result from

> " ionic " silver.

>

> NB: The only type of Silver product that " will remain " to kill

> pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the

> spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution

> of actual silver particles.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards, Carol Ann ~

> Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.

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Does this mean that the silver particles in solutions that suspend silver, i.e. colloidal silver is the only silver that works? Beverly onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote: I can't recall the exact site because I copied and pasted then closedthe window, but I found a similar site that states the same thing:http://www.invive.com/pop_new.htmlI hope it's not true. There's so much controversy over ionic

andnon-ionic silver. It seems to help my sinuses somewhat so it can't beall that bad!-- In , Carol Ann<saffireskyes@...> wrote:>> could u please cite the source of the article.> > onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote: Hey gang,> > I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is> NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the> Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the> article states:> > 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the> bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more> than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When "ionic"> silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The

exact same> thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high> Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and> Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the> Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no> value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a> silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes> useless. This is "why" one receives variable results or no result from> "ionic" silver.> > NB: The only type of Silver product that "will remain" to kill> pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the> spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution> of actual silver particles.> > > > > > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ > Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008.>

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OK. Thanks. They are describing a product that is mostly silver proteins, at 5000pm's I wouldn't consider them mild and I've seen Invives product discussed before. If you would like clarification, please make your inquiry to the following list, but you will have to join. colloidalsilver2/There are lots of people on that list knowledgable about that product who will answer your questions/concern with detail. I'm not sure the archives are working but nevertheless, the post will be answered. Personally, the most I would ever consider using is 500 pmm ( which I cannot myself make) and it wouldn't be regular use. I would ionic silver. If I were to develope a serious systemic blood infection of some type, 500pm would be considered until resolution.onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote: I can't recall the exact site because I copied and pasted then closed the window, but I found a similar site that states the same thing: http://www.invive.com/pop_new.html I hope it's not true. There's so much controversy over ionic and non-ionic silver. It seems to help my sinuses somewhat so it can't be all that bad! -- In , Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: > > could u please

cite the source of the article. > > onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote: Hey gang, > > I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is > NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the > Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the > article states: > > 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the > bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more > than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When "ionic" > silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same > thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high > Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and > Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the > Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no > value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a > silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes > useless. This is "why" one receives variable results or no result from > "ionic" silver. > > NB: The only type of Silver product that "will remain" to kill > pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the > spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution > of actual silver particles. > > > > > > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ > Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Beta. >

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Hi,I read through the information provided!

Does this mean that the silver particles in solutions that suspend silver, i.e. colloidal silver is the only silver that works? Anyway, if you wish to consult a resource of information on the subject of colloidal silver...go here:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html-- Peace and LoveUzoma

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i know not what the mechanism is, but my home brewed EIS keeps working for

me against hep-c.

i've wondered about the likelihood of exactly what's explained below, but

never read anything about it elsewhere & don't remember enough chemistry &

never learned enough physiology to have any real confidence in my own

reasoning. what i wonder is, why would all the silver necessarily bind with

chlorine while in solution? why wouldn't at least a lot of it stay in

solution? is silver chloride, when isolated by evaporation, so tightly bound

as such that it doesn't re-dissolve in water, creating a bunch of free

silver and chlorine ions?

> Disturbing Info on Ionic Silver

>

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is

> NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the

> Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the

> article states:

>

>

>

> 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the

> bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more

> than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When " ionic "

> silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same

> thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high

> Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and

> Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the

> Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no

> value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a

> silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes

> useless. This is " why " one receives variable results or no result from

> " ionic " silver.

>

> NB: The only type of Silver product that " will remain " to kill

> pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the

> spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution

> of actual silver particles.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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that would follow from what the article says.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of beverly crockettSent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: Disturbing Info on Ionic Silver

Does this mean that the silver particles in solutions that suspend silver, i.e. colloidal silver is the only silver that works?

Beverly

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Thanks...didn't half-ass read huh?bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote: that would follow from what the article says. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of beverly

crockettSent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: Disturbing Info on Ionic Silver Does this mean that the silver particles in solutions that suspend silver, i.e. colloidal silver is the only silver that works? Beverly

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The website that contains the above reference to Ionic Silver is located at:

http://www.invive.com/pop_new.html

Teal

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Unfortunate choice of words, neutralized. You can get a better

view of CS without the bullshit by joining

the http://silverlist.org or writing a subject of subscribe to

silver-list@...

CS even if made with a pinch of salt in the water or tap water,

supposedly " neutralised " , still works.

Duncan

On 15 Jan 2007 at 15:04, Beck-blood-

electrification

Digest Number 1758 wrote:

> 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the

> bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more

> than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized:

[Guest guest]

this comes from the bottom of the invive page!! you should educate

yourself about " Mild Silver Protein "

jim

" "

" Limited Time " Special " :

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Hey gang,

>

> I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is

> NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the

> Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the

> article states:

>

> 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the

> bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more

> than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When " ionic "

> silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same

> thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high

> Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and

> Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the

> Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no

> value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a

> silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes

> useless. This is " why " one receives variable results or no result from

> " ionic " silver.

>

> NB: The only type of Silver product that " will remain " to kill

> pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the

> spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution

> of actual silver particles.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards, Carol Ann ~

> Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008.

>

> ---------------------------------

> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.

> Try the Beta.

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....yeah, that stuff's apparently a great way to get argyria.

that page is connected with marketing MSP and does say some lame stuff.

however another site presents much of the same info, only better said.

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html

> Re: Disturbing Info on Ionic

> Silver

>

>

> this comes from the bottom of the invive page!! you should educate

> yourself about " Mild Silver Protein "

>

> jim

>

> " "

> " Limited Time " Special " :

> INTRODUCTORY OFFER

> Lowest MSP Price on Internet

> " "

>

>

> Hey gang,

> >

> > I read this insert in an article talking about how ionic silver is

> > NOT beneficial to the body and this disturbs me because I use the

> > Silver Pulser to make ionic colloidal silver. Here's part of what the

> > article states:

> >

> > 5.) IONIC SILVER DOES NOT REMAIN MORE THAN 8 SECONDS in the

> > bloodstream: Ionic silver does not remain in the bloodstream for more

> > than 8 (eight) seconds, before it becomes neutralized: When " ionic "

> > silver enters the bloodstream it becomes worthless as: The exact same

> > thing happens in the bloodstream as the stomach because of the high

> > Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and

> > Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the

> > Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride that is of no

> > value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a

> > silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes

> > useless. This is " why " one receives variable results or no result from

> > " ionic " silver.

> >

> > NB: The only type of Silver product that " will remain " to kill

> > pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the

> > spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution

> > of actual silver particles.

> >

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So, according to the FAQ's there were be 90% ionic silver and 10% truecolloidal silver particles. The problem seems to be to figure out how to get the 90% ionic silver those missing electrons to make them into silver particles. The articlehttp://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html

says that theionic silver that is loitering in the vicinity of the anode picks up someelectrons as they whiz by & converts to colloidal form. So, if after a normal session an electric current continued to run (the silver electrodes couldn't be used, of course)it seems that eventually all, or nearly all, the ionic silver would beconverted to the colloidal form. So the question is: how to introduce thiscurrent in such a way as to not contaminate the process. Are there materialsthat could inserted into the silver water to act as electrodes that would act ina neutral way? i.e., just provide electric current without adding anything new.Or is electrolysis always a consequence no matter what the material and aresultant 90 to 10 ratio, ionic to particle? Perhaps adding some electron-richmaterial? How about charging a big capacitor and then putting the negative lead intothe mostly ionic silver brew. The electrons might bleed off and increase the colloidal silver population.

Peace, deenie

Posted by: "bob Larson" bobLists@... bob021147

Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:00 am (PST)

i know not what the mechanism is, but my home brewed EIS keeps working forme against hep-c.i've wondered about the likelihood of exactly what's explained below, butnever read anything about it elsewhere & don't remember enough chemistry & never learned enough physiology to have any real confidence in my ownreasoning. what i wonder is, why would all the silver necessarily bind withchlorine while in solution? why wouldn't at least a lot of it stay insolution? is silver chloride, when isolated by evaporation, so tightly boundas such that it doesn't re-dissolve in water, creating a bunch of freesilver and chlorine ions?