Re: BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE HERE!!

[Guest guest]

BG, I went to the 'PHOTOS " but there are no photos listed.

No Beck Album, Did I goof ?

BTW, you are right I probably will love this stuff, once I get

past/or least into the computer age.

Ed Kasper

> I think you will LOVE this!

> See the Beck n' Stuff group or s group.

>

> I've posted Beck Electrifier assembly photos. (About time isn't

> it?) Click on Photos, to your left, and Beck album. When you

> choose a photo, it opens at low resolution. Look in the upper right

> and click VIEW: SCREEN SIZE = FULL SIZE. These are pretty high

> resolution images.

[Guest guest]

BG,

Is that a .1 (point one) microfarad cap? Or 1 (One) microfarad cap? I found

the 1 mfd, but not the .1 mfd on the Radio Shack website. I priced out the

parts list and it came to just under $20, without the black plastic project

box. Is that about what you figured?

I have a Thom clone, but now I read that the wave it puts out is not

exactly square, expecially after the batteries begin dropping. Maybe Beck's

original was not as refined as this one is either.

FWIW, on your #4 photo it looks like the two banks of resistors that are

wired in series are connected to each other. If this was taken from a

slightly different angle it might save someone from messing things up. What

are you using to photograph these?

Also, am I correct in assuming that you did not have to add the resistors in

series to the electrode wires?

I see that you did solder the wires to the cotter pins. recommends

that you use clear fingernail polish over the solder, so the lead cannot

touch your skin.

BTW, thanks for all of your work.

Dick

BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE HERE!!

> /

>

> This link is to the photos, you should join this group if you

> haven't already. It NOW has easy to follow and build genuine Beck

> blood electrification units, the Improved model, tested over two

> years by Bob Beck!

>

> I think you will LOVE this!

>

> I've posted Beck Electrifier assembly photos. (About time isn't

> it?) Click on Photos, to your left, and Beck album. When you

> choose a photo, it opens at low resolution. Look in the upper right

> and click VIEW: SCREEN SIZE = FULL SIZE. These are pretty high

> resolution images.

>

> There are only four assembly photos! The components on the

> EXPERIMENTOR 350 socket board (Radio Shack has these under the

> Archer brand name) do not require soldering. Everything plugs in

> like a pincushion. Wires can be twisted and shrink tubing applied

> to the joints. Or just the wire connections can later be soldered

> (optional).

>

> I've tested it on myself and substituted a 15k (15,000 OHM) resistor

> for one of Beck's, the 820 OHM. I felt 820 OHMS as a limiter was

> too low a value, at full battery charge. No implied or express

> warranties, or recommendations. I don't even suggest that you make

> one. But I want it on record that 15k is what I use and I ONLY use

> no less than 15k as the limit resistance in my research workup of

> this Beck Improved device.

>

> Soon, I'll put the deluxe features on, the LED battery tester, and

> the colloidal silver circuit. But they are options, and are even

> simpler to do.

>

> Cheer up. HOHOHO Merry XMAS to all, and to all a good night!

>

> bG

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No problem, use this group:

Beck-n-stuff/

They've got them there. Join if you need to be able to see them,

think you might have to.

If anyone here wants to, copy them into a new album for this group

also, it's fine with me, that's the idea here...

HOHOHO

bG

> > I think you will LOVE this!

> > See the Beck n' Stuff group or s group.

> >

> > I've posted Beck Electrifier assembly photos. (About time isn't

> > it?) Click on Photos, to your left, and Beck album. When you

> > choose a photo, it opens at low resolution. Look in the upper

right

> > and click VIEW: SCREEN SIZE = FULL SIZE. These are pretty high

> > resolution images.

[Guest guest]

Right, .1 ufd. They had em at my local RS

OK, I've reshot the questionable overlapped resistor wires shot, and

uploaded to the three sites carrying the photos.

The resistances on the outputs are up at the top. The horizontal

resistor and the pot are they. Pin 7 is the output, connects to the

limit resitor, goes on to the pot and back to the electrode. The

other electrode is without a resistor. It's not my design.

Changing it as little as possible was the idea. IN this form it

only lacks the LED and CS maker. Road warriors will want that, so

I'll get on it in next few days and post the updates.

I would NEVER use anything less than 4k limit resistor on this

design. With the " least value " resistor used in the schematic the

output is about 18 mA!! Quite dangerously high, as 30 mA kills, 10

mA causes organ damage. My own instructions show a 15k limit

resistor and that was all I could stand at full tilt, having tested

it on myself before posting. 4k limit would be the lowest safe

resistance for the thickest guy I know or have yet encountered. At

that value, you would be putting out around 3.5-5 mA. Please be

very very careful, people in choosing a high enough limit resistor.

I've used two forms of the same chip, both exactly same output. I

think it is wired exactly right, and it gives the right pulsated

output, at least on my digital meter. It is a nice spikey square

wave. With the 15k limit resistor, I get about 1.3-1.5 mA max

output. Bumping along at 4 herz, that is a lot to take, at least it

is to me. The units output 1.2-1.5 typically at full tilt.

I hope everyone's careful about those limit resistors, that's all I

can say.

I used a sony 707 camera, at 640x480 res, and did not resize down.

The electrodes were a couple of oldies I had cut off another unit.

They don't require soldering, and I usually don't. But they DO

require several turns of wire, not just one loop, as I show in my

other photos of " how to " make these. The lead is enveloped in clear

shrink tubing, however.

RS has gold banana plugs and other junk for the more permanent, once

you know you want this type user. I'd scoop a couple of those,

they're cheap. I wanted to make it so that Third World people can

also get at this without asking " now we need silver, or gold, where

can we hope to get that? " For emergencies, you want to have options

that will spare lives, etc.

Costwise, your figure is not unreasonable, I guess. I will be

taking the camera to RS to photo the things and part numbers, etc,

so people will be able to see what's what.

bG

> BG,

> Is that a .1 (point one) microfarad cap? Or 1 (One) microfarad

cap? I found

> the 1 mfd, but not the .1 mfd on the Radio Shack website. I priced

out the

> parts list and it came to just under $20, without the black

plastic project

> box. Is that about what you figured?

>

> I have a Thom clone, but now I read that the wave it puts

out is not

> exactly square, expecially after the batteries begin dropping.

Maybe Beck's

> original was not as refined as this one is either.

>

> FWIW, on your #4 photo it looks like the two banks of resistors

that are

> wired in series are connected to each other. If this was taken

from a

> slightly different angle it might save someone from messing things

up. What

> are you using to photograph these?

>

> Also, am I correct in assuming that you did not have to add the

resistors in

> series to the electrode wires?

>

> I see that you did solder the wires to the cotter pins.

recommends

> that you use clear fingernail polish over the solder, so the lead

cannot

> touch your skin.

>

> BTW, thanks for all of your work.

>

> Dick

>

>

>

>

>

>

> BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE

HERE!!

>

>

> > /

> >

> > This link is to the photos, you should join this group if you

> > haven't already. It NOW has easy to follow and build genuine

Beck

> > blood electrification units, the Improved model, tested over two

> > years by Bob Beck!

> >

> > I think you will LOVE this!

> >

> > I've posted Beck Electrifier assembly photos. (About time isn't

> > it?) Click on Photos, to your left, and Beck album. When you

> > choose a photo, it opens at low resolution. Look in the upper

right

> > and click VIEW: SCREEN SIZE = FULL SIZE. These are pretty high

> > resolution images.

> >

> > There are only four assembly photos! The components on the

> > EXPERIMENTOR 350 socket board (Radio Shack has these under the

> > Archer brand name) do not require soldering. Everything plugs in

> > like a pincushion. Wires can be twisted and shrink tubing applied

> > to the joints. Or just the wire connections can later be soldered

> > (optional).

> >

> > I've tested it on myself and substituted a 15k (15,000 OHM)

resistor

> > for one of Beck's, the 820 OHM. I felt 820 OHMS as a limiter was

> > too low a value, at full battery charge. No implied or express

> > warranties, or recommendations. I don't even suggest that you

make

> > one. But I want it on record that 15k is what I use and I ONLY

use

> > no less than 15k as the limit resistance in my research workup of

> > this Beck Improved device.

> >

> > Soon, I'll put the deluxe features on, the LED battery tester,

and

> > the colloidal silver circuit. But they are options, and are even

> > simpler to do.

> >

> > Cheer up. HOHOHO Merry XMAS to all, and to all a good night!

> >

> > bG

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/26/2001 4:31:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dfeustel@... writes:

<< I still get a 404 error when I click on the url below.

>>

I got an error message also

[Guest guest]

BG, are you sure you posted the correct address for beck and stuff? I get

" Page cannot be Found " window.

Dick

BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE HERE!!

> http://photos./group/Beck-n-stuff/lst

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>

>

[Guest guest]

BG,

This is the same Beck 4 hrz assembly photos that are on the

microelectricity group and club sites. I guess I thought that you had

completed the variable freq assembly photos that you talked about adding to

the Beck photos.

No hurry. I know that you are busy. I am just waiting until you get them

posted before I build mine. You explained how to add the pots, etc., to

accomplish this, but I will feel better seeing the photos. (Being a complete

electronic illiterate)

Regards,

Dick

BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE

> HERE!!

> >

> >

> > > http://photos./group/Beck-n-stuff/lst

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I'll get a good one done, not one with three pots, just one master

pot yet have all the ranges, but it will be a month, at least.

This isn't going to be an easy job, it will require drilling cast

aluminum, and several rather complicated wiring configurations for

the switches. You could use plastic box, too.

Nothing exotic, but will require time and effort for anyone to build

it. I want to make it indestructible, of cast aluminum, so that if

stepped on, thrown, or liquids spilled on it, it will survive. Also

it should NEVER need to be disassembled, not even to recharge it,

and can be sealed up.

I doubt it will do much more than we can do with a simple Beck

unit. Probably all the gadget freaks are gonna want this one.

Like me.

bG

> > > BG, are you sure you posted the correct address for beck and

> > stuff? I get

> > > " Page cannot be Found " window.

> > >

> > > Dick

> > > BECK ASSEMBLY PHOTOS ARE

> > HERE!!

> > >

> > >

> > > > http://photos./group/Beck-n-stuff/lst

> > > >

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